White House Official: “We Know He Needs to Be Out There to Talk About the Economy Next Week”
President Obama’s golf-filled vacation in Martha’s Vineyard neared its close on Friday with more bad news on the economic front, as the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysts revised downward 2nd quarter economic growth of the real gross domestic product, indicating the output of goods and services produced by labor and property in the US grew by an anemic 1.6%, rather than the original estimate of 2.4%.
The announcement came the same week as staggeringly bad news on the housing front – with plummeting home sales – and reports that the four-week moving average of weekly jobless claims is at its highest level since last November. The bad news renewed fears of a double-dip recession.
President Obama was largely invisible to the public, taking in 10 days of R&R in the posh Chilmark section of Martha’s Vineyard. When he re-emerges to the public on Sunday, he will be kicking off a series of high profile events that have little to do with the issue foremost on Americans’ minds: jobs. On Sunday the president will travel to New Orleans to commemorate the 5th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. On Tuesday he will deliver only his second Oval Office address, discussing the withdrawal of US combat troops from Iraq. On Wednesday and Thursday, he and his administration will focus on kick-starting peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians.
“We know he needs to be out there to talk about the economy next week,” a White House official told ABC News, acknowledging the need for the president to talk about the issue on the minds of Americans in the midst of a schedule packed with events focused on other priorities. “We haven’t yet figured out the way he’s going to do that.”
The White House is pushing its $30 billion small business lending initiative and other measures to stimulate economic growth, such as the elimination of capital gains taxes for small business investments. But advisers say there is little appetite on Capitol Hill for any new spending programs, and limited time in the congressional calendar, suggesting that they feel there aren't any more major initiatives the administration will push in further attempts to revise the sputtering economy. Voices inside and outside the administration are calling for a host of other remedies including more infrastructure spending and tax cuts.
The continued bad news on the economic front has helped Republicans in public opinion polls as the nation prepares for the mid-term elections. A new Mason-Dixon poll has Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., in a statistical tie with tea party-backed Republican candidate Sharron Angle. Strikingly, in the poll, 47% of Nevadans say President Barack Obama's actions to stabilize the economy have hurt the nation's economic situation. Only 29% say the president’s economic prescriptions have improved matters.
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Posted by: Lizzie | August 27, 2010, 9:14 am 9:14 am
“We know he needs to be out there to talk about the economy next week,” a White House official told ABC News.
Talk isn’t going to get it done and either will the 30 Billion loan program.
NoBo needs to spend a good solid week listening to all new voices. What he’s doing isn’t working. That is painfully evident. He needs to send Timmy and Larry on vacation in Siberia. He needs to listen to different money and business people, folks with contrary perspectives.
In short, he needs to finally talk to people who actually understand business and the economy. Then we all have to Hope and Pray the man finally grasps and comprehends how the economic engine runs.
I know, there’s hardly a fly’s fart chance of that happening but you have to have Hope.
Posted by: Noz | August 27, 2010, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Guys- c’mon why do you want the President to talk about the economy? Don’t you realize he is trying to buy shrimp?
Posted by: vw | August 27, 2010, 9:30 am 9:30 am
White House Official: “We Know He Needs to Be Out There to Talk About the Economy Next Week”……….But we can’t get him off the playground to do anything
Whats he going to talk about?, the failed stimulus? the job destroying healthcare?….The INCREASED cost of healthcare that the media is so carefully trying to hide…maybe he will talk about the need for a taxpayer funded union bailout
OBAMA VS AMERICA
Posted by: Yep I said that | August 27, 2010, 9:33 am 9:33 am
“We Know He Needs to Be Out There to Talk About the Economy Next Week”
Yeah, maybe the Bamster can squeeze in some governing between rounds of golf, vacations, and appearances on talk shows.
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | August 27, 2010, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Remember that the last guy who ‘needed to be out there’ for a breaking news financial crisis was John ‘fundamentals are strong’ McCain… watch out there MR POTUS.. history may repeat itself.
Posted by: Dontget818 | August 27, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
I predict O will not be able to resist Bush bashing when he remarks on Katrina.
Instead of praising all the amazing efforts and resilience of Americans from all over who helped in the recovery, he will cynically find something negative to say.
Posted by: Elle | August 27, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
I have a solution he needs to RESIGN
Posted by: flaguyxx | August 27, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
BECK ‘HAS A DREAM’: RALLY SET; SHARPTON LOOMS…
…100,000 Expected
Martin Luther King’s niece defends rally…
Tea Party Group Hit With Death Threats…
‘Civil Rights’ Leader Says Tea Party Spells KKK…
Gunshot Shatters Glass Door Of GOP Office…
Radical left wing extremist mobilize to continue their assault on America
Obama VS America
Posted by: Yep I said that | August 27, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am
…try to remember.. free speech is only for the left and for Obama supporters.. not for the rest of us…
Posted by: Dontget818 | August 27, 2010, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Your tax dollars at… (um, “work”?)
Posted by: CBA | August 27, 2010, 9:58 am 9:58 am
How can Obama offer solutions to help our economy get back on track, when he is in obvious denial on the state of the economy?
Today’s GDP revision was largely expected by people who follow the economy who have been studying the facts. The belief was that the preliminary number of 2.4% was goosed, so it was not to be trusted. Today Krugman has put out a piece whose title could not be more clear in describing the “realists’” views: “This is not a recovery” That is the reality.
The situation is what it is, regardless of what picture the President may want to paint. We understand that economy is in bad shape- those of us outside of Martha’s Vineyard can feel it. But we all need to work to get out of this situation, and that involves acknowledging which policies have been successful and which have fallen short. Focus on developing measures that work, rather than trying to justify programs that are not working. We need honest talk, don’t read us a fairy tale.
The President should understand that we are adults and that we can deal with the reality. The question is: Can he?
Posted by: Virtus2021 | August 27, 2010, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Why doesn’t ABC news film an unedited portion of Glenn Becks’ Restore America rally. I bet ABC news ratings would go up, look at Katie Courics’ ratings- down, down, down, people are tired of her bias.
Posted by: Downwithsocialism | August 27, 2010, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Only if he stops with the lies, and tells the truth.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 27, 2010, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Who inside the administration is calling for more infrastructure spending?
It would be a good sign, if true.
Posted by: Flash Override | August 27, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am
“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”
…unless you are one of the 3 million seniors who may be forced to change their prescription drug coverage this fall.
“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”
…unless you are on a university provided student plan.
“If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”
…unless you work for one of the 90% of companies that expect to lose their grandfather status by 2014.
[If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Start Beating Your Head Against the Wall Now - Peter Suderman]
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 10:36 am 10:36 am
needs to spend a good solid week listening to all new voices.
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This.
He came into office with much hurrah about his “team of rivals”. The idea was that he was going to listen to people who don’t agree, to try to get the best advice. Supposedly, he wasn’t afraid to hear dissenting opinions so that he could get the very best advice.
Well, it’s time to listen to some new people who don’t necessarily agree with what he’s been doing and who understand business.
Posted by: MayBee | August 27, 2010, 10:38 am 10:38 am
The economy is not as bad (not yet anyway) as some say yet it is definitely not as good as the President says it is…yes, it sucks and yes it is getting worse. The press could their jobs and do a clip of Biden saying how wonderful everything is and then show help wanted ads that show that indeed there are jobs but the majority doesn’t pay above minimum wage or show the people in affluent areas waiting for mortgage help, or the 40,000 souls in East Point GA. waiting in line for Government housing. Or visit the areas where vacationing is the economy and ask them how it went this year. I was drove through a town last week known for tourism and it looked like a ghost town. Yes the President has done a great job of saving public sector jobs, propping up union pension plans and ensuring his people have work yet the people in the real world have and are taking it on the chin or up the you know what. But instead of these stories we get a press hell bent on showing how much butter the Obamas used when eating their lobster.
Posted by: david | August 27, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
What a joke. Obamabots elect someone has has never held a job. Never signed a pay check, and never put on a uniform. Now after he has failed miserably at unemployment, the economy, and foriegn policy you expect him to wake up and figure it out? Fat chance.
Posted by: Todd | August 27, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am
$30 billion loan program for small businesses? Why would we borrow money? How do we pay it back when our customers aren’t spending? We survived the 2008-09 lack of confidence, but we are worried we won’t survive this round. Loans to the dying won’t help.
Posted by: Mary | August 27, 2010, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Barry could add 23,000 good paying jobs today if he would abandon his junk science and lift his drilling ban.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Barry could add 23,000 good paying jobs today if he would abandon his junk science and lift his drilling ban.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
Really? According to the NYT, “Even the government’s estimate of the impact of the drilling pause — 23,000 lost jobs and $10.2 billion in economic damage — is proving to be too pessimistic. ”
(Job Losses Over Drilling Ban Fail to Materialize)
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 11:01 am 11:01 am
hey jake: when are you going to do the report that senator obama vehemently opposed the surge that saved the iraq war. that he ranted against the war on the campaign trail. That he and hillary were in the general “betray us” wing of the democratic party.
What did your journolist emails say this week.(“damn we thought the muslim stabber was going to be a tea partier,turns out he’s one of us).
Posted by: jim germann | August 27, 2010, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Flash,how would more infrastructure spending help the economy? We had a $800 billion stimulus that was supposed to have addressed that. Haven’t you seen the Recovery signs at all of those jobs painting lines on roads and resurfacing highways?How many “stimulus” projects do you have in your community?Is your community eligible for stimulus funding?Doesn’t your riding have access to the same infrastructure funding that you think would help?
Posted by: Nephron | August 27, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am
hey jake: when are you going to do the report that senator obama vehemently opposed the surge that saved the iraq war.
Posted by: jim germann |
August 23rd on this blog. See “A Brief History of President Obama and the 2007 Surge of Troops in Iraq”
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Haven’t you seen the Recovery signs at all of those jobs painting lines on roads and resurfacing highways?
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O/T, but there is a really interesting Recovery sign placement in my area. The sign is at a prominent spot on really busy highway off ramp coming into my town. The actual project is a couple miles away, in a much less busy location.
Posted by: MayBee | August 27, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
According to the NYT, “Even the government’s estimate of the impact of the drilling pause — 23,000 lost jobs and $10.2 billion in economic damage — is proving to be too pessimistic. ”
Posted by: Kris |
23,000 was the estimate provided to Barry before he went ahead and imposed the moratorium. Shame on me for quoting that number.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Posted by: Noz |
We agree to a certain extent. President Obama needs to do more than get out there and talk. He needs to get out there with an ambitious agenda that goes beyond the small business lending initiative. Who cares whether Republicans will vote for additional recovery efforts this close to midterms or some Dems are feeling panicky? Liars, obstructionists and chickens will be liars, obstructionist and chickens, regardless of what you do, Mr. President.
Be bold, Mr. President. Be bold.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
Its good to keep current. By using the number you did, you were much closer than you would have been had you used Republican/conservative movement estimates, so don’t be too hard on yourself.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Be bold-are you kidding? Obama must be a Christian-if he isn’t an example of the meek inheriting the Earth I don’t know what is.
Posted by: Nephron | August 27, 2010, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Its good to keep current.
Posted by: Kris |
I’m delighted to hear that Barry didn’t destroy as many jobs as he thought he was going to.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am
our own version of Nero- while Roma (the US) burned economically, our emperor feasted on lobster, DAILY. tuff being a dictator of a third world nation, huh?
Posted by: realman63 | August 27, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 27, 2010 11:39:39 AM
Destroy? Funny stuff. Unemployment claims related to the oil industry have been in the hundreds, not anything near the hundreds of thousands Republicans predicted, and the fact remains that had BP not screwed up, there wouldn’t be a moratorium.
There are indications the ban will be lifted early but before drillers can return to the deep water, the industry ought to be able to show that it’s capable of responding to and containing future blowouts, yeah?
Its common sense… but of course common sense isn’t all that common these daze.
And then of course there’s the point to be made about Congress. Tough measures are stalled in Congress.
Hmmmm… wonder who’s stalling? What about those drilling jobs????
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Be bold-are you kidding?
No. America likes bold. the President needs to come out with a bold agenda.
Although any agenda at all trumps the Republicans.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Hey Mr. O.
Enjoy your time with your Puppet Masters on the Vineyard!
Posted by: btrask3 | August 27, 2010, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Our city newspaper prior to Obama’s January 20, 2009 coronation had 10 full pages devoted to help wanted, now it consists of 1/2 page and sometimes 1 paragraph daily.
Posted by: Downwithsocialism | August 27, 2010, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
What we do not need is Obama prancing around the country TALKING about the economy. We’re not stupid. We know exactly what’s going on in the economy (it’s dying). We do not want to hear Obama tell us things are getting better when they aren’t. We’re sick of the propaganda from the white house and media. Reality is way different from what those fools keep preaching.
Instead of yapping about the economy, how about Obama work on putting American’s back to work. And by work, I do not mean sitting home collecting an unemployment check.
Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2010, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Destroy? Funny stuff. Unemployment claims related to the oil industry have been in the hundreds, not anything near the hundreds of thousands Republicans predicted, and the fact remains that had BP not screwed up, there wouldn’t be a moratorium.
Posted by: Kris |
Yes destroy. It is the antonym of create.
And what is this “republicans predicted” nonsense? Barry’s advisers predicted 23,000.
BP was the crisis that enabled the moratorium. The fact remains that if Barry had NOT declared a moratorium OR if Barry wasn’t fighting the courts that have ruled against his moratorium then there wouldn’t be a moratorium.
The fact remains that the moratorium has cost jobs.
The fact remains that the moratorium has reduced oil production.
Your celebration of the assertion that, so far, the moratorium hasn’t destroyed as many jobs as Barry thought it would is bizarre.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Obama’s got that “whatever” island mentality. And for some reason, at one of the most precarious, treacherous time in our country’s history, liberals thought it was a great idea to hire Obama who had
No military experience,
No executive experience,
No economic experience,
No business experience,
No foreign policy experience,
No foreign trade experience,
No energy experience,
No health care experience.
And voila, the chickens have come home to roost.
Posted by: BEA | August 27, 2010, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
I realize that confederate movement bloggers were talking about the 23,000 yesterday as in the estimated 23,000 workers in the deepwater drilling industry whom the White House allegedly wrote off in pursuit of its “junk science-based drilling moratorium”— and you’re quoting them word for word, but is that honestly all you know about the subject?
Look up the Republican predictions, and laugh along with me, when you then go to the New Orleans Times-Picayune and discover that overall employment data in coastal parishes shows very little change since the drilling ban.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
WIRE: What Biden didn’t mention on stimulus…
ZUCKERMAN: The Most Fiscally Irresponsible Government in History…
note: ZUCKERMAN wrote speeeh for Obama
OBAMA VS AMERICA
Posted by: Yep I said that | August 27, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
“Yes destroy. It is the antonym of create.”
Okay, I have to comment on this because I love the polar oppositional black and white either/or thinking. So typical.
And where does the truth lie?
Dead center. Neither/nor
Hilarious.
Get your head out of the extreme right blogosphere talking points once in awhile. There’s a whole world out here.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Really? According to the NYT, “Even the government’s ….
Posted by: Kris
——————————————LMAO, using the NYT’s as a source…. LMAO
That left wing radical piece of paper should only be used in birdcages, its about on the same ground as CBS polls
But I know its the “koran” to the radical left wing extremist ……
OBAMA VS AMERICA
Posted by: Yep I said that | August 27, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Why does he need to be out there? Joe Biden was “out there” yesterday touting the trillion dollar stimulus in New Hampshire. There wasn’t a dry eye in the place, tears of laughter I mean.
Posted by: pauldia | August 27, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
BEA | Aug 27, 2010 12:27:26 PM
…The old saying ‘the proof is in the pudding’ says it all (about the pres) with your ingredients:
“No military experience,
No executive experience,
No economic experience,
No business experience,
No foreign policy experience,
No foreign trade experience,
No energy experience,
No health care experience.”
Posted by: deanbob | August 27, 2010, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Posted by: Yep I said that |
I was responding to someone using a hyperpartisan culturally conservative confederate movement blogger as a source. I’ll stick with the NYT on this one.
If you don’t like the NYT, btw, you can read the New Orleans Time New Orleans Times-Picayune, and get informed, rather than repeating talking points that are bent.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
White House official who said “We Know He Needs to Be Out There to Talk About the Economy Next Week”, we need action to address private job creation, NOT MORE TALK.
Posted by: deanbob | August 27, 2010, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
A GREAT way for the WH to introduce a discussion of the economy would be to change the Tuesday speech from an Oval Office Address to a press conference.
Reporters would ask him about the economy, certainly.
Posted by: MayBee | August 27, 2010, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Having conference calls and being “out there” doesn’t encourage a good economy. Less government taxes, regulation, and spending does. Then, again, when the Obama administration admittedly views the economy through the prism of what it can “withstand” in terms of government tax burden during “the worst economic crisis since the great depression,” they obviously aren’t interested in real solutions. We need you to lead with real economic solutions, not more conference calls, teleprompter-read speeches blaming Bush, and pillaging of the wealth in this country. At the end of the day, it’s clear Obama simply isn’t willing or capable.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Calm down people. If only the dolts in flyover country would support more govt spending,everything will be fine.
I wish the administration would just tell us how much spending will be enough to make this all better. If every unemployed American had a job at factories that make stimulas signs we would solve the problem.
$2 trillion? $5 trillion? $1 gazillion?
Posted by: taxpayer0 | August 27, 2010, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
“No military experience,
No executive experience,
No economic experience,
No business experience,
No foreign policy experience,
No foreign trade experience,
No energy experience,
No health care experience.”
Posted by: deanbob | Aug 27, 2010 12:43:49 PM
But hey, O-bam did come to Washington carrying a big bag of fluff labeled “Hope and Change.”
What more do you want?? lol
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | August 27, 2010, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Yep I said that | Aug 27, 2010 12:37:41 PM posted: “using the NYT’s as a source…. That left wing radical piece of paper should only be used in birdcages.”
Actually, I appreciate posts with source references. Whether or not we agree with a newspaper’s political stand, posting a source shows the information has been checked by an Editorial staff.
Kris also posted “go to the New Orleans Times-Picayune and discover that overall employment data in coastal parishes shows very little change since the drilling ban.”
Is the Times-Picayune an acceptable source? That paper’s editorial stance is moderate to conservative. During my years working around New Orleans it’s my recollection that the Picayune usually endorsed Republicans in state and federal elections.
Posted by: green.goddess | August 27, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
“Is the Times-Picayune an acceptable source? That paper’s editorial stance is moderate to conservative. ”
Posted by: green.goddess |
If anyone is having trouble finding an article that validates the NYT findings, here’s a snip from one article to google by:
“In Pascagoula, O’Neil Mendoza, Noble’s project director for the Western Hemisphere and Middle East, is welcoming all the shoreside work the moratorium has allowed his company to catch up on. He said the industry is cyclical anyway, and a six-month moratorium gives rig owners a rare chance to make major improvements and meet new government safety standards while still under contract.
“The moratorium has had no impact on my outlook because my work continues to grow,” he said …”
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
What good will it do for HIM to be out there talking about the economy? HIS Obamacare and promise of higher taxes has businesses laying low. Less regulation and less taxes is the answer. Corporations and businesses cannot be taxed they just pass it on to us.
After the crash of 1929 unemployment actually rose after the government began to tinker with the economy. In fact the US Secretary said this, “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
So it seems history does repeat itself? It seems that the White House and the Congress intends to repeat many of the errors of the last Depression that came to be known as Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal.
Meanwhile the national debt marches on and the CBO projects the cost only to service the debt will be 900 billion dollars by 2020. Currently the cost is 164-184 billion dollars just to service the debt.
So anyone that believes in the Obama/Pelosi/Reid triad needs to check their math.
BTW the CBO all but uses the “rationing” word for Obamacare seems that we have been snookered on cost, just as Glenn Beck told us.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | August 27, 2010, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
““We know he needs to be out there to talk about the economy next week,” a White House official told ABC News, acknowledging the need for the president to talk about the issue on the minds of Americans in the midst of a schedule packed with events focused on other priorities. “We haven’t yet figured out the way he’s going to do that.”..
The teleprompter had not told him what lie to tell just yet!
Go easy on the guy..he just got back from VACATION!!!
Posted by: s. mORGAN | August 27, 2010, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
“the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Economic Analysts revised downward 2nd quarter economic growth of the real gross domestic product, indicating the output of goods and services produced by labor and property in the US grew by an anemic 1.6%, rather than the original estimate of 2.4%.”
There’s only one logical explanation. The GDP numbers are racist and want Obama to fail.
Posted by: Mary | August 27, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Ed Taylor | Aug 27, 2010 1:49:10 PM posted: “It seems that the White House and the Congress intends to repeat many of the errors of the last Depression that came to be known as Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal.”
What “errors”? You may be aware that there’s an ongoing debate among economists about how our nation emerged from the Great Depression.
Many believe FDR’s programs DID in fact help our country. Others think it was the 7 years (1939-1945) of massive WWII government spending that ended the Great Depression. Still others believe the Great Depression was finally lifted as the rebuilding of Europe and Asia restored “effective demand.”
Regardless how we look at it, the economy took a LONG time and a huge amount of demand for recovery. If we use history as an indicator, it’s delusional to think returning to Republican economic policies will magically bounce the US economy back into a Bush era housing bubble.
Posted by: green.goddess | August 27, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
There is no one in a better position than Obama to know how bad the economy really is, and he is on vacation. It must mean that the economy is OK, right?
Maybe ‘crunch time’ only applies to September and October. After all, the real ‘job’ of the President is to get his compatriots elected and reelected in November?
Posted by: Mike, CO | August 27, 2010, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Pres Barry will talk about the economy next week — okay, there probably are many other options to grow the government sector.
Pres Barry has lost his connection with the average American. He’s aloof without inspiring any confidence. On issue after issue – terrorism, immigration, the oil spill, the Arizona border, and the Ground Zero mosque – he seems determined to annoy the most people possible.
Unemployment is near 10%, the second qtr GDP is revised down to an anemic growth rate, and it goes on and on. More than 18 percent of people who want full-time work can find only part-time jobs. Consumer confidence is falling again, housing sales recently hit a “15-year low”.
Independents and Republicans are sick and tired of Pres Barry and this 2006-2010 congress. The Democrats are going to get beaten badly in November no matter how many green goddesses want to move us toward a “European style” welfare state.
Posted by: bl | August 27, 2010, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
The best thing Obama could do to help the economy would be to resign. I am not kidding.
Posted by: billy bob | August 27, 2010, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
I am not seeing near as many liberals trying to defend him like I use to. Unfortunatly our country will pay a huge price for their reckless voting habits.
Posted by: billy bob | August 27, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Obama still has drilling shut down in the gulf costing hundreds of millions per week and thousands of jobs. But hey, his golf game is improving from what i have heard.
Posted by: billy bob | August 27, 2010, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
When Obama gets back from playing golf he intends to spur hiring by passing the card check bill. The unions can form more unions and get more people to work doing nothing and decreasing productivity. Who cares if the companies go brok as long as we have a lot of union employees.
Posted by: billy bob | August 27, 2010, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
TALK? That’s his big plan for “Recovery Summer” (TM pending) where we’re supposed to see 250,000 to 500,000 jobs added to the workforce every month as the stimulus finally proves it wasn’t a waste of money but really is working?
And when it flops like this… he’s going to TALK?
What could he say that I’d possibly want to hear? He was wrong, his plan didn’t help, his fix made things worse and he has no plans that will actually fix this mess, and he wasted a lot of money for no real gain… do I need him to tell me this, or should I expect him to lie again instead?
Let me guess, he’s going to promise 500,000-750,000 jobs a month this winter to make up for the disaster our summer has been? Q1 growth 3.7 revised to 3.1 revised to 2.7… may go lower. Q2 2.4 revised to 1.6… may go lower.
Yep, 2.7 Q1 growth, 1.6 Q2 growth is the current numbers so Obama is right; we’re “Heading in the right direction”… if the goal is a double-dip recession.
Any guesses that he’ll admit his highly promised “Recovery Summer” was worse than Q1?
Posted by: Ertdfg | August 27, 2010, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
This appears to be a repeat of ancient history. Nero also fiddled while Rome burned! He didn’t turn out too well either. 2012 is coming, but not soon enough!
Posted by: Sunnyr | August 27, 2010, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
..I agree .. to some extent that Obama got stuck with a new era of economic restructuring..on top of the bank collapse.. now, why didn’t he get a team to address this in 2009? The money spent seemed extreme..
Posted by: Dontget818 | August 27, 2010, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
“Intel’s recent $2.89-billion profit . . . Intel sat tight during the recession while client companies held off on computer purchases for their employees, and is now seeing the upswing, with profits soaring to a 10-year high.”
And still they complain about the President’s stance on business and the economy. They want EVERYTHING for themselves, not just the hights profits in 10 years. Can’t let the peasants get any scraps.
Posted by: Stephen | August 27, 2010, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
They want EVERYTHING for themselves, not just the hights profits in 10 years.
Posted by: Stephen |
You would prefer that companies act as stupidly as our politicians?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 27, 2010 4:02:29 PM
Your post is nonsensical. Try reading the information again . .. slowly.
“Intel’s recent $2.89-billion profit . . . Intel sat tight during the recession while client companies held off on computer purchases for their employees, and is now seeing the upswing, with profits soaring to a 10-year high.”
And still they complain about the President’s stance on business and the economy. They want EVERYTHING for themselves, not just the highest profits in 10 years.
Posted by: Stephen | August 27, 2010, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I wish the media would stop talking about the bad economy. The media is scaring people to death and is the main reason why the economy is not moving ahead. We are scared because we hear every day, 24 hours a day that the Economy is bad, so people do not spend even those who have money will not spend it for fear of things getting worse. The more the Media talks about the bad economy, the scarer people get and the less they will spend.
Posted by: Maria | August 27, 2010, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
@kris
Laugh along with me as we read this from Bloomberg…
President Barack Obama’s moratorium on deep-water drilling is no longer needed because new rules reduce the risk of an uncontrolled spill, according to a report for a panel investigating BP Plc’s blowout.
Rules issued in June by the Interior Department “provide an adequate margin of safety to responsibly allow the resumption of deep-water drilling,” according to the report today from the Bipartisan Policy Center, a Washington-based research group. The rules, if followed by BP, Apache Corp. and other drillers, and enforced by regulators, “will achieve a significant and beneficial reduction of risk.”
The report was prepared for the presidential commission investigating the BP spill. Its leaders, former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator William Reilly and former Democratic Senator Bob Graham of Florida, have questioned the need for the moratorium, which is scheduled to expire Nov. 30.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Rules issued in June by the Interior Department “provide an adequate margin of safety to responsibly allow the resumption of deep-water drilling,” according to the report today from the Bipartisan Policy Center, a Washington-based research group. The rules, if followed by BP, Apache Corp. and other drillers, and enforced by regulators, “will achieve a significant and beneficial reduction of risk.”
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 27, 2010 4:46:15 PM
Yes, I’m also impressed with how quickly the Obama administration acted to pull the industry back in line attempting to avoid another disaster.
And I appreciate their moratorium to ensure everything is covered.
Posted by: Stephen | August 27, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Fed Chair Ben Bernake is a student of the Great Depression. Today Bernake indicted that the central bank will resume huge purchases of longer-term debt to ward off Deflation.
Why worry about lower prices? The Great Depression was a Deflationary spiral where falling prices resulted in lower production. Less production contributed to lower wages, more unemployment, and less demand. A vicious circle we want to avoid.
However, the Fed’s actions are not enough. The biggest problem for the economy and the “national psyche” is unemployment.
Yale economics professor Robert Shiller offers an interesting mixed solution:
First, federal and local governments need to spend to create jobs. For example a program to employ an additional person in each class room as a teacher’s aid. This would employ millions while students benefit from the extra help.
Next, Shiller suggested a clear, targeted tax incentives for businesses because uncertainty in the economy currently is causing corporations to back off from making hiring decisions.
And, imo, Professor Shiller’s suggestions reinforce the idea that Congress must quickly pass legislation to help America’s new job creation engine, Small Businesses, with tax breaks + financial support.
Posted by: green.goddess | August 27, 2010, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Maybe he should talk about what he has against Israel;
Z STREET, a pro-Israel non-profit corporation, filed a lawsuit in federal court today charging that the IRS violated the organization’s First Amendment rights. The suit was filed after Z STREET was told by an IRS official that its application for tax-exempt status has been delayed because an IRS policy requires consideration of whether a group’s views on Israel differ from those of the current Administration.
Meanwhile we pay a muslim to travel for the administration.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | August 27, 2010, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Posted by: Ed Taylor | Aug 27, 2010 5:56:45 PM posted: “a pro-Israel non-profit corporation’s application for tax-exempt status has been delayed.”
For a while I was puzzled by Conservatives’ adoration for the state of Israel.
Then I discovered certain Christian Zionists believe the establishment of the state of was a precursor to the Second Coming of Christ. And war is prophesied.
Unfortunately, in 2006 The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs indicates direct US aid to Israel has cost over $113 Billion. And that’s just a cheap estimate. According to another economist, Thomas R. Stauffer, the cost to American taxpayers for perpetuating that regional conflict is $3 Trillion.
I keep reading posts from Conservatives about the dangers of a large National Deficit. So with this huge aid to Israel expense, a policy that has extended conflict and ethnic cleansing, why don’t we “cut the budget” and simply end US aid to Israel?
Posted by: green.goddess | August 27, 2010, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
For a while I was puzzled by Conservatives’ adoration for the state of Israel.
Then I discovered certain Christian Zionists believe the establishment of the state of was a precursor to the Second Coming of Christ. And war is prophesied.
Posted by: green.goddess |
Certain socialists and Islamists believe that Jews should be “eliminated”. Can we conclude that is why some are calling for the end of aid to Israel? Can we conclude that is why many refuse to take Iran’s threats seriously?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Foghorn,nice try but in the very same article it is mentioned that the moratorium is likely to be lifted early if the industry shows it has improved safety and developed means to contain another spill. Which is what I said in my post @ Aug 27, 2010 12:01:48 PM.
Now, let’s look at what the AP notes about the same report by the Bipartisan Policy Center, quoting directly from said report:
“If industry is diligent in incorporating these requirements and DOI is vigilant in oversight and enforcement, we believe this new regime will provide an adequate margin of safety to responsibly allow the resumption of deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico,” the report said.
Got that? Note the “if”.
Now weigh this in there from the same AP article:
“The report did not specify a timetable when the moratorium should be lifted, but Jason Grumet, the policy center’s president, said in an interview that it should be lifted as soon as possible. Still, Grumet said it likely will take months for some operators to comply with the new requirements.”
(h/t Matthew Daly, AP)
So maybe you wanna quote Malkin again or something?
lol.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
@kris
Didn’t like the Bloomberg source huh?
If you want to bother to re-read my original post you’ll see the “IF” was there though it beats me why you think it is some kind of brilliant insight that “IF” an operator doesn’t follow the new requirements then the new requirements won’t work.
Thanks for the quote from Jason Grumet saying the moratorium should be lifted as soon as possible. I’m certain you will join with me in demanding that Barry lift it immediately for any and all rigs which are currently in compliance so that Americans can go back to work and feed their families and stimulate the local economies that have suffered enough from circumstances beyond their control.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 27, 2010, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Didn’t like the Bloomberg source huh?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
Always with the reindeer games.
As I’m sure you’re aware, I didn’t question your source. I question your comprehension skills and your ability to make a relevant or meaningful point.
I prefer going to the original source and provided the quote straight from the source,and noted the if so you– or anyone else interested– might then apply it to Grumet’s acknowledgment that it likely will take months for some operators to comply with the new requirements, and the fact that the article you quoted mentions that the moratorium is likely to be lifted early if the industry shows it has improved safety and developed means to contain another spill.
I won’t join your call as I think its prudent to extend the moratorium a couple more weeks through public hearings on the oil spill, which are scheduled to conclude in mid-September.
Posted by: Kris | August 27, 2010, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
As I’m sure you’re aware, I didn’t question your source.
Posted by: Kris |
The hell you didn’t.
kris: I realize that confederate movement bloggers were talking about the 23,000 yesterday…”junk science-based drilling moratorium”— and you’re quoting them word for word
kris:So maybe you wanna quote Malkin again or something?
The snarkiest one was deleted.
And you didn’t go to the original source, you went to the AP.
Then there was the personal attack but that’s what people of your ilk do. Obviously.
The rest of your post was fine.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 28, 2010, 12:12 am 12:12 am
I’m also impressed with how quickly the Obama administration acted to pull the industry back in line attempting to avoid another disaster.
And I appreciate their moratorium to ensure everything is covered.
Posted by: Stephen | Aug 27, 2010 5:17:04 PM
Yes, me too as it was clear we couldn’t have handled an entirely possible second disaster at the same time, and lives were lost. A temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling combined with instituting proper regulatory regimes (and taking the time to dot all the i on the “ifs” when it comes to safety measures) is common sense. Moreover, as the New Orleans Times-Picayune (and the NYT) notes “the predictions of tens of thousands of lost jobs across the region have yet to materialize.[...] weekly unemployment claims data in the mining industry sector, which comprises primarily oil- and gas-related jobs, have shown no noticeable spike since the moratorium was declared May 28.”
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2010, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
Correction: I didn’t question your Bloomberg source. I went on to note something from the same article, in fact. The junk science quote from Malkin was worth calling out, as it was uninformed.
The full quote cited from the AP was from the report, all in quotation marks. And I checked it. (You can too if you go to the Bipartisan Policy Center). Since its a pdf file, I copied and pasted from AP.
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2010, 12:27 am 12:27 am
The junk science quote from Malkin was worth calling out, as it was uninformed.
Posted by: Kris |
“Judge Feldman said the federal government has not justified what he called a “punitive” moratorium but acted arbitrarily and capriciously…
The Obama administration should have been embarrassed by how easily Judge Feldman exposed the weakness of its case for a six-month shutdown of all deepwater drilling. So far, there’s no indication that the White House will budge on this issue; in fact, the administration seems to be digging in.” – Times-Picayune
In the future I will be happy to use “Arbitrary and capricious actions” or “Embarrassingly weak case.” so I won’t sound so uninformed.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 28, 2010, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
And yet, the effect on employment Feldman (whose most recent financial disclosure form indicates that he is heavily invested in oil companies) predicted in July has failed to materialize, and another moratorium was issued, not focusing on water depth but rather drilling technology.
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2010, 1:48 am 1:48 am
In the future I will be happy to use “Arbitrary and capricious actions” or “Embarrassingly weak case.” so I won’t sound so uninformed.
—
A quick fact check so the numbers are accurate would probably be more helpful if thats your aim.
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2010, 1:51 am 1:51 am
And yet, the effect on employment Feldman (whose most recent financial disclosure form indicates that he is heavily invested in oil companies) predicted in July has failed to materialize, and another moratorium was issued, not focusing on water depth but rather drilling technology.
Posted by: Kris |
And yet the moratorium is yet to be lifted so, like the stimulus, its effects continue.
I thought progressives liked judges with agendas.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 28, 2010, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn |
Intriguing. Right wingers talk about job losses that never materialized , and pretend like stopping those job losses which never materialized is a jobs agenda.
Wonder what the effect on small businesses and jobs would be if a few more oil spills occurred due to a premature lift of the moratorium?
Posted by: Cara | August 28, 2010, 9:00 am 9:00 am
I thought progressives liked judges with agendas.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 28, 2010 8:11:32 AM
that’s more of a right winger thing.
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
there needs to be more action and less blab when it comes to the economy. this Obama person doesn’t know what the hell he is doing, but I know and others do too what he isn’t doing. take out the trash in November.
Posted by: dashdot | August 29, 2010, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
President Obama, Mayor Bloomberg, Governor Quinn, his Republican challenger Bill or Tom Brady, his Georgist challenger, except for me, David M. MANN, Mark Kirk and Alexi Giannoulias, and other political non-Georgist candidates, especially Sarah Palin, all better bone up on Henry Georges theories, ideas, and principes, simply because you can only be totally ignorant, and totally un-educated if you arent and dont know the three (3) factors of Production–Land, Labor, AND then Capital, and the three laws that are much more important than The Law of Supply & Demand: Competition, Economic Rent, Wages and Interest! And what causes poverty? Progress actually creates and enhances poverty! The Land-Owner-Holder-Tenure-ers and the average, below and above average citizens of this and every nation must know the land belongs to the Native American and everyone, NOT Ted Turner, or anyone person or entity! This is exactly why,with 65 days left to go before the Illinois and other U.S. State elections, I MUST be the Independent Write-In candidate for Governor of Illinois and 19 other U.S. States, and be in time to stop both the Democrats and Republicans who want Sarah Palin in 2012! Thats the worst thing they can do! She knows nothing of Over-Seas policy or even the political leaders and Heads of State of all nations! I DO! AND I can persuade them all to DO the Economic Rent-of-Land-Value Tax System! I dont care how how they’ll do it, just that they know and understand Henry Georges theories, principles and ideas, and how to use the correctly, efficiently, and effect-ively! Thats all I ask of them!!! Thank You!
Posted by: David M. MANN | August 29, 2010, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
All this imposter does is vacation,eat free at various places he uses Air Force 1 to fly,campaigns every day ,plays golf, and gives a lot of bull crap,not worth lisening to on tv.Does he ever work and run a country falling apart under him.He is just USELESS.
Posted by: flaguyxx | August 29, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Do you know that the constitution of the United States of America states that we Can Not give one dime to another nation, nor can we loan money to any other nation? Track it all the way to today and there has been no amendment to allow it. So, this has been going on for a very long time ..Illegally. Do you know that when Obama bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia, that was against the the constitution? Do you know that the speech Obama made in Egypt last year was the most disgusting speech any American could make? He mentioned , repeatedly American Muslims but only once made mention of Americans. Did you notice in that speech that he says the American Muslims were better educated and made more money than Americans? What a direct slap in the face for all of us.
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