By Maya

Sep 8, 2010 9:07am

Hello, Cleveland! HELLO CLEVELAND!

ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report:

President Obama today heads to Cleveland, Ohio, to contrast his economic proposals – and what White House advisers are calling “economic values” – with those of Republicans, most notably those of the would-be House Speaker should the GOP recapture the House in November, House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, who delivered an economic speech in Cleveland two weeks ago.

The president will talk about the concepts that Boehner spoke of during his speech and highlight the “different values that animate our thinking about how you build a strong economy,” a White House official said. “The president will be talking about these values and the divergent paths that the two, the two parties are proposing this fall in the speech tomorrow, and that’s largely what the speech will be about.”

The president, White House officials say, will depict Boehner and the Republicans as being hypocritical on deficits, supportive of a financial regulatory regime that led to the financial meltdown, and prisoners of the past. Mr. Obama will continue to argue in favor of permanently extending the Bush tax cuts for individuals who earn less than $200,000 a year/$250,000 for couples, and against the Republican plan to extend tax cuts for the top two tax brackets.

On Monday in Milwaukee, the president proposed a $50 billion “infrastructure bank” to fund bridges, roads, rail lines, and airport runways.

Today the president will propose allowing companies to fully deduct capital investments in equipments and plants through the end of 2011, a business tax cut of up to $200 billion over two years, though the administration estimates the ultimate cost at $30 billion over ten years. Mr. Obama will also push an enhanced research and experimentation tax credit at an estimated cost of $100 billion over the next decade.

“These targeted proposals are designed to increase confidence and spur job creation–and they have been supported by many Republicans in the past,” a White House official said, “so opposition is just another name for partisan game playing instead of helping put the American people back to work.

An administration official, noting that these proposals have already been reported said “the president is not going to Cleveland to make news about these proposals, the proposals are already known…He’ll also be talking about where the economy has been, where we are now, and where we’re headed.”

-Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

While in Cleveland, The President should demand to know what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was thinking when it inducted Abba!
I don’t think a boycott would be out of line.

Posted by: The People Demand an Answer | September 8, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am

“He’ll also be talking about where the economy has been, where we are now, and where we’re headed.”
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Lemme guess:
The economy has been bad for decades and we had the worst recession since the great depression
We are now heading in the right direction, but not fast enough. If the Republicans would stop somehow obstructing everything, we would do better.
We are headed in the right direction, once the President creates his foundation for a new American that will not have business cycles and bubbles.

Posted by: MayBee | September 8, 2010, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Obama will tell us how, without his brilliant bold intervention, we would have 15-20% unemployment. If you elect those Republicans, they will cash in Social Security and hand it over to Halliburton and BP, and throw starving old people and babies out on the street…….yadda, yadda, yadda.

Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Obama will tell us how, without his brilliant bold intervention, we would have 15-20% unemployment. If you elect those Republicans, they will cash in Social Security and hand it over to Halliburton and BP, and throw starving old people and babies out on the street…….yadda, yadda, yadda.
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I’m waiting for the part of how the stimulus has kept the unemployment rate under 8%. Another $50 billion will push it under 6%! Hurry, Barry, hurry!

Posted by: Christine | September 8, 2010, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Please say more about how they “talk about me like a dog,” Mr. President.
Is it true you’re quoting Hendrix? Are you talking about a purebred or a “mutt,” as you’ve previously described African-Americans and yourself?
Are you feeling any empathy for Chimpy Bush yet? Are you engaging in these pity parties to establish your place as the most thin-skinned president in U.S. history?
As somebody has already suggested, you could clear up all the confusion by just showing your dog license.

Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Is it true you’re quoting Hendrix?
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Go easy, Bob. Barry’s just in a cover band.

Posted by: No Talent | September 8, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am

“We are headed in the right direction, once the President creates his foundation for a new American that will not have business cycles and bubbles”
I don’t know that anybody can eliminate business cycles when human behavior is the primary driver of the economy but why would anybody like bubbles? They only give the lucky few an opportunity too get rich at the expense of the many.

Posted by: Skip | September 8, 2010, 11:05 am 11:05 am

“We are headed in the right direction, once the President creates his foundation for a new American that will not have business cycles and bubbles.”
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 8, 2010 9:54:52 AM
Grand Socialist Utopia, Baby!

Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 11:09 am 11:09 am

“They only give the lucky few an opportunity too get rich at the expense of the many.”
I’m sure those guys at Goldman Sachs would agree. Just expect the unexpected…

Posted by: Chris D. | September 8, 2010, 11:10 am 11:10 am

“We are headed in the right direction, once the President creates his foundation for a new American that will not have business cycles and bubbles.”
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 8, 2010 9:54:52 AM
Grand Socialist Utopia, Baby!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So is Harry Reid involved or not involved? Question of the day…

Posted by: Leaving Las Vegas | September 8, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am

skip: why would anybody like bubbles?
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I don’t know. Who likes bubbles?
Just not sure he’s going to create a new foundation that eliminates them (and by that I mean, not sure its possible)

Posted by: MayBee | September 8, 2010, 11:18 am 11:18 am

“So is Harry Reid involved or not involved? Question of the day…”
Posted by: Leaving Las Vegas | Sep 8, 2010 11:15:12 AM
Harry Reid had nothing to do with this bad economy.

Posted by: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas | September 8, 2010, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Harry Reid was only the most powerful Senator for the last 4 years. How could he NOT be responsible for the economy?

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Majority Leader of the Senate for almost 4 years,involved in passing legislation including budgets.Responsible for passing TARP,stimulus in the Senate.As I recall the Congress controls the purse-strings.But no,Harry has nothing to do with the economy.

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am

“Majority Leader of the Senate for almost 4 years,involved in passing legislation including budgets.Responsible for passing TARP,stimulus in the Senate.As I recall the Congress controls the purse-strings.But no,Harry has nothing to do with the economy.”
He said he wasn’t. Why whould he say that if it wasn’t true? Not like he’s worried or anything…

Posted by: Ford or Chevy | September 8, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

He said he wasn’t. Why whould he say that if it wasn’t true? Not like he’s worried or anything…
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Well, the Republicans were in charge when Bush was President (aka the past decade). Somehow. I’m not sure how the math works, but if something went wrong, it was either because the Republicans had Congress, the Republicans had the Presidency, or the Republicans had neither and were blocking everything.
Harry Reid was Majority leader, and Barack Obama was in the majority in the Senate, but they were just bystanders.

Posted by: MayBee | September 8, 2010, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Boy I hope he uses some variation of that ditch analogy….always gives me chills. The one is such a fabulous speaker! -heavy sarcasm

Posted by: J.R. | September 8, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

“He’ll also be talking about where the economy has been, where we are now, and where we’re headed.” Do you really think Americans need an economics class on this when we have unemployment here in N.E. Ohio that is some of the highest in the country? People look at what they have to spend to survive and already know they are short. Tell people what your are going to do about it, not more campaign rhetoric. His lack of experience in running anything requiring a budget is obvious but, you voted him in anyways. Just wait until most everyones unemployment runs out, you haven’t seen anything yet.

Posted by: indymind | September 8, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

J.R., I hope he talks about the ditch, too– and I’m not being sarcastic. the Slurpee part he’s added is a nice touch because there’s something about that that is just so perfect (and I like the “or something” part too; it strikes me as a nod to the couple who always look half in the bag as if they’ve added a little something to their red slurpee, though it may not be)
“It’s as if they drove a car into the ditch and then we had to put on our boots and go down there in the mud, and we’ve been pushing and shoving. And they’ve been standing aside and watching us, and saying, ‘you’re not pushing right, you’re not pushing fast enough. You know, they’re drinking on a Slurpee or something. So we’re huffing and puffing, and we finally get this car out of the ditch, finally have it on level ground. We’re moving forward. And they turn to us and say, ‘we want the keys’…”
Good stuff. the Republicans have said not to putting America back to work,no to firefighters and cops, no to teachers and education, no to science and innovation, no to small business, no to the uninsured and underinsured, no to fixing crumbling infrastructure, no to financial regulation, no to consumer protections, no to the troops, no to fighting obesity, no to religious liberty, no to immigrants, shakedown to those seeking redress along the Louisiana coast.
Republicans vs. 98% of America.
Keep it real, President Obama. Mention the slurpees. I love it!

Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

(nod to Cara on the last post, and nod to Pajama Pundit on his paraphrase about the Republican party:”reports of the death of the GOP have been greatly exaggerated, but so have reports of it’s comeback… “)

Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Another divisive speech by this ignoramus, who expects Republican cooperation after he trashes them. Good freakin’ luck!

Posted by: Sunnyr | September 8, 2010, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

So a sitting President follows a minority leader to rebut him in his own State. Whats next, a trip to attack a school board President or a blogger. How small can Obama get?

Posted by: pauldia | September 8, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“We are headed in the right direction, once the President creates his foundation for a new American that will not have business cycles and bubbles.”
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 8, 2010 9:54:52 AM
—This is your brain on drugs.

Posted by: billy bob | September 8, 2010, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

More green shoots in the Era of Hope and Change!
From the Washington Post (9/8/10):
WINCHESTER, VA. – The last major GE factory making ordinary incandescent light bulbs in the United States is closing this month, marking a small, sad exit for a product and company that can trace their roots to Thomas Alva Edison’s innovations in the 1870s.
The remaining 200 workers at the plant here will lose their jobs.
During the recession, political and business leaders have held out the promise that American advances, particularly in green technology, might stem the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. But as the lighting industry shows, even when the government pushes companies toward environmental innovations and Americans come up with them, the manufacture of the next generation technology can still end up overseas.

Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

**TIME FOR OBAMA TO START BEING INTELLECTUALLY HONEST!! TELL THE TRUTH! **
Why are Americans turning against Obama you ask?? For starters, he starts his speeches – regardless of subject — with: “It has taken eight years of Bush policies that drove us into the ditch, and we are not going to give the keys back to them!” He then follows up with a couple of lines regarding “The Party of No!” Thank God for the latter!!
Thomas Sowell states it most succinctly in this excellent column:
“Another political fable is that the current economic downturn is due to not enough government regulation of the housing and financial markets. But it was precisely the government regulators, under pressure from politicians, who forced banks and other lending institutions to lower their standards for making mortgage loans.
These risky loans, and the defaults that followed, were what set off a chain reaction of massive financial losses that brought down the whole economy.
Was this due to George W. Bush and the Republicans? Only partly. Most of those who pushed the lowering of mortgage lending standards were Democrats– notably Congressman Barney Frank and Senator Christopher Dodd, though too many Republicans went along.
At the heart of these policies were Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, who bought huge amounts of risky mortgages, passing the risk on from the banks that lent the money (and made the profits) to the taxpayers who were not even aware that they would end up paying in the end.
When President Bush said in 2004 that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac should be reined in, 76 members of the House of Representatives issued a statement to the contrary. These included Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters and Charles Rangel.
If we are going to talk about “the policies that created this mess in the first place,” let’s at least get the facts straight and the names right.”

Posted by: PappyHappy | September 8, 2010, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Oh, sheesh, Pappy Happy. Sowell is a lunatic. There’s not a bogeyman he won’t hump or freebase. Nazi’s, check. Sharia law, check.
Credibility? Not any more.

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

President Obama’s speech was right on point:
” That’s what we Democrats believe in – a vibrant free market, but one that works for everybody. That’s our vision for a stronger economy and a growing middle-class. And that’s the difference between what we and the Republicans in Congress are offering the American people right now.
Let me give you a few specific examples of our different approaches. This week, I proposed some additional steps to grow the economy and help businesses spur hiring. One of the keys to job creation is to encourage companies to invest more in the United States. But for years, our tax code has actually given billions of dollars in tax breaks that encourage companies to create jobs and profits in other countries.
I want to change that. Instead of tax loopholes that incentivize investment in overseas jobs, I’m proposing a more generous, permanent extension of the tax credit that goes to companies for all the research and innovation they do right here in America. And I’m proposing that all American businesses should be allowed to write off all the investment they do in 2011. This will help small businesses upgrade their plants and equipment, and will encourage large corporations to get off the sidelines and start putting their profits to work in places like Cleveland and Toledo and Dayton.
To most of you, this is just common sense. But not to Mr. Boehner and his allies. For years, Republicans have fought to keep these corporate loopholes open. In fact, when Mr. Boehner was here in Cleveland he attacked us for closing a few of these loopholes – and using the money to help states like Ohio keep hundreds of thousands of teachers and cops and firefighters on the job. He dismissed these jobs – teaching our kids, patrolling our streets, rushing into burning buildings – as quote “government jobs” – jobs that I guess he thought just weren’t worth saving. ”
–President Obama, Cleveland
Republicans don’t care about the Americans that aren’t both Republican and part of the economic elite. Recession is the cure, they say. Believe in the tax fairy, they say. Deny religious freedom and American ideals, they say. Firefighters are overpaid special interests, they say. Teachers ought to be mocked, they say. Education and science are irrelevant, they say. Worry about the deficit we drove up rather than jobs, they say. Screw small business if big business doesn’t get a bigger cut, they say.
I’m glad he called Boehner out on his stimulus hypocrisy as well. (“Mr. Boehner and the Republicans in Congress said no to these projects. Fought them tooth and nail. Though I should say that didn’t stop a lot of them from showing up at the ribbon-cutting ceremonies and trying to take credit.”)

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Obama outright lied today and has shown once again how “clueless” he really is. Obama & the Demorcrats are grasping at straws now, knowing the impending tsunami wave that will overtake them in November and put the Republicans back in charge! #NOBAMA!!!!

Posted by: Becky | September 8, 2010, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

One word for Obama and his DemWits: “November!”

Posted by: ImpeachTheIdiot | September 8, 2010, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Can someone explain to me, and i’m sure someone will try, how the Republicans are obstructing everything when the demoncrats have the majority in both the house and senate. And can someone also explain to me how we are heading in the right directions when unemployment is staying at 9.5 or higher, the deficit is increasing, spending is increasing(another 50 bil), taxes are increasing thru health care mandates, requirements, capital gains, and any and all Obama class warfare schemes. And thru increasing government jobs and pensions at the cost and on the backs of the taxpayers.
Oh, i get it, some of you bloggers don’t have jobs so don’t get the financial aspects of working and saving.
Or maybe you live off the sweat of someone else and decide you are entitled to the rewards their labor.
All the right drowning in a deluded self rightousness and intellectual snobbery.
I say that if people don’t wake up we are doomed.

Posted by: we're doomed | September 8, 2010, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Posted by: Kris | Sep 8, 2010 4:15:04 PM
ZZZZZzzzzzz

Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Well, Jogger, I find it very sad that the Republicans have turned out to be exactly as the President presently describes– a bunch of no-good slurpee-drinking scorched-earth naysayers who don’t care a wit about the country or a good 98% of the people who live in it.
While post partisanship was a nice dream, its hard to be post partisan with a bunch of hate and fear driven fruit loops.
Timothy Noah at Slate has posted a great series about inequality in America. Inequality has boomed and social mobility has declined over the last three decades.
Enough of the Republican and right wing driven war on those who aren’t part of the upper class– the upper 2-5%– in terms of wealth and power. Why did they vote no to middle class tax cuts before and why are they willing to hold them hostage again? Why won’t they help offer opportunities to work on much needed repairs to roads and infrastructure?
What is WRONG with them????

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Mary, I realize a lot of old people nap around this time, but the relevance? (Try getting a bit more exercise and fresh air in the afternoon).

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Kris/Tierra: “Mary, I realize a lot of old people nap around this time, but the relevance?”
The relevance? Nobody cares about hysterical rants coming from Progressives. That was abundantly clear when Air America went bankrupt. Twice.

Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

We’re doomed…
Well, kiddo, clearly, you’re doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past, but I suggest you take your own advice. Wake up! The Republicans refer to American workers as a special interest. Inequality has boomed over the past three decades. Coincidence, or can you connect the dots? What did inequality look like prior to the Great Depression? See any similarities yet?
The Republicans haven’t been very successful at blocking anything completely– Dems have kicked booty when it comes to legislating, especially in the House; not to the grindstone; however that will end if the lazy orange dude takes over— but, back on point, that doesn’t change the fact that they’ve said no to America. No to damages for small businesses along the Gulf coast. No to credit lines for small business. No to middle class tax cuts, more than once. No to pro-business tax cuts. No to science, innovation, education, alternate energy. No to children who need insurance. No to fair pay for women. No to increased benefits for soldiers and veterans. No to religious liberty. No to health IT. No to public and environmental health. Nope, nope, nope.
(They seem to still like torture and abuse of power though— see Arpaio)

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Make that “nose to the grindstone”
And, yeah, sure, Mary, they prefer faux conservative rants as if there is a genuine “conservative Movement”, lol. The Heritage Foundation, an alleged defender of limited government, has hired executive power advocate and war criminal, David Addington. Go fake conservative movement!!!

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

“Nobody cares about hysterical rants coming from Progressives. That was abundantly clear when Air America went bankrupt. Twice.”
That’s a good point.
Progressives don’t like to listen to largely one sided conversations in which the hosts tells the audience how to think especially if its ranting.
That’s more of a right wing submissive thing.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

How can cleveland end up in illinois {according to Obama ] that was his opening ,does he know where he is or is that how we got the 57th state.IDIOT!!!

Posted by: earl | September 8, 2010, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

“The Heritage Foundation, an alleged defender of limited government, has hired executive power advocate and war criminal, David Addington. ”
You throw “war criminal” out as though you have some special knowledge. What war crime has Addington been charged or tried with?

Posted by: Sigmonde | September 8, 2010, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

“Progressives don’t like to listen to largely one sided conversations in which the hosts tells the audience how to think especially if its ranting. ”
lol..Then why do liberals like to listen to uber ranter Keith Olberman?

Posted by: Sigmonde | September 8, 2010, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Sigmonde, special knowledge is the right wing’s thing.
But… your response does remind me of what I said earlier:
That although the Republicans have said no to America. No to damages for small businesses along the Gulf coast. No to credit lines for small business. No to middle class tax cuts, more than once. No to pro-business tax cuts. No to science, innovation, education, alternate energy. No to children who need insurance. No to fair pay for women. No to increased benefits for soldiers and veterans. No to religious liberty. No to health IT. No to public and environmental health. Nope, nope, nope, they DO seem to still like torture and abuse of power (and war criminals and big government! hypocrites)

Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2010, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Kris,then why are the majority of small businessmen Republicans?

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2010, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Posted by: Nephron |
Nephron, I don’t know that that’s true. Source?Most I know are democrats, independents or libertarians. A couple of minarchists (regulate others, maybe, but not me!) I’m also unclear as to the relevance. What’s your assumption?
BUT putting that aside, even if it were true, the question to ask is why don’t Republicans support 98% of the population– some of whom voted for them? (And how do they get away with that— well, they didn’t in 2006 and 2008; but why are memories so short?)
I agree with Alan Grayson, not on everything, but on this in regards to the 1930s and the present:
“…And that, my friends, is the America that the Republicans are trying to revive: the America of desperate straits and, for them, cheap labor. The America where people have nothing, hope for nothing, and are desperate to live to the next day. That is what the Republicans are trying to resurrect…
I will say this to the Republicans who have blocked this bill now for months and kept foods out of the months of children. I will say to them now: May God have mercy on your souls.”

Posted by: Kris | September 9, 2010, 3:19 am 3:19 am

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