New Poll Suggests, for President Obama and Democrats, Something Wicked This Way Comes

And next week the headlines will say “GOP faulters and the Dems look bright”. Then a couple of weeks after that the headlines will say, “GOP leads the pack – Dems look bleek”…bla bla bla. When Nov gets here we’ll know what to do and what not to do.
GOP vs America

“for President Obama and Democrats, Something Wicked This Way Comes” – ABC News
So True and yet for the rest of us and America as a whole
Something Glorious This Way Comes
it’s name is November.

ABC is just now catching up with the rest of America with their polling…can the radical left wing of CBS/NYT be far behind?
Obama VS America

We dont want you in CT Obama, please stay home. I would not support any candidate that supports ANY of his policies or corrupt agenda!

This guy just doesn’t get the message. He’s no Clinton or Reagan.

Take nearly any issue, the economy, the war on Muslim terrorism, jobs, the Gulf oil spill, homosexual marriage, illegal immigration, health care, Ground Zero, the Muslim terrorist trials, energy, foreign policy in the Middle East, Asia and around the globe, the “Stimulus,” the bail outs, the wars on terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc., etc., etc. and typically around 70% of the American public is opposed to what Obama and the Democrats in Congress are doing. Only about 30% support what they are doing. Poll after poll shows this.
So you ask yourself: If these people are elected to represent the American public, why is virtually everything they do in opposition of what the large majority of what the American public wants them to do? Are they politically deaf? Or are they intentionally imposing their will on people knowing that it is not what the large majority of Americans want?
The answer is that a minority of 30% has taken control of the government due to apathy and lack of vigilance on the part of the majority and they are dictating the rules that the 70% have to follow. The 30 percenters have a death lock on both houses of Congress and the White House, and they are using it to override the will of the majority of the people whom they are supposed to be serving.
The Tea Party has nothing to do with race and everything to do with democracy. When the majority has no voice, that is not democracy.
When the Tea Party talks about “taking back” the government, they mean that they want to restore it to the type of government it is supposed to be: one in which the will of the majority public is not ignored; one in which a few arrogant elitists don’t impose their will on the majority at the expense of liberty and democracy for everyone. This is the heart and soul of what the Tea Party is about. If you are opposed to this, you are opposed to American democracy.
November is the time and the voting booth is the place that we must take government back from these elitist dictators, before it’s too late. FIRE THEM ON NOVEMBER 2.

Jake,
and you think the Tea Party DOES represent 70% of the people? What color is the sky on your planet? Many of the Tea Party candidates are radical Libertarians who want to demolish almost everything and by everything I don’t just mean public schools, Medicare and Social Security but also libraries, public roads, public parks. Do you really think the majority of Americans want THAT?

Obama, and Democrats stand with the working class people.
The problem with the economy is that jobs lost can not be replaced the way they were with previous administrations because so many jobs are over seas, and profit driven companies are not reversing business processing outsourcing.
It’s the elephant in the room, and both independents and republicans are going to be sore as a result, even if they win in the fall.
The Health care bill does cut costs by providing preventive care, and saving businesses, and individuals money. It’s also a human right. I wish we had the public option.
Funny how republicans turn to Europe for guidance on naturalization, but it’s taboo for responsible social programs.

According to pollster,Steve Hart, if Democrats lose control of Congress, it’s “because they didn’t vote.” (h/t Political Wire, Mark Murray)
If you look at the wide range of polls, rather than just one, among all registered voters, versus likely voters, the generic Congressional ballot remains close, tied or nearly tied.
Moreover, Obama is refocusing on the economy now.
Its going to be bad for the Dems, but I recall how it looked for Obama at this point in September in 2008, meaning its not over till its over. However, the right wing is getting fuel to drive a wave narrative, that’s for sure.

“Moreover, Obama is refocusing on the economy now.”
And Goldman Sachs is pleased…Again.

janelle..obama and the dems will stand in the unemployment line with the rest of us. get real how many working class people fly in private jets and vacation on the taxpayers money while the peasants starve?
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How else can we spread the environmental message of saving the earth if we have to take business class?! Get with the program!

People have awfully short memories. They’ve forgotten it was Bush’s disastrous policies that got us here in the first place. We’ll be lucky to have dug ourselves out of the Bush recession by 2016. He screwed things up THAT BAD.

He screwed things up THAT BAD.
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Yes, Bush did. And Obama and Pelosi appear to be paying for it.
Republicans never take responsibility, though they sure do talk about responsibility a lot, before handing it off and pretending they know nothing.
(Okay, on the know nothing part, they’re likely not pretending. I’ll give them that.)

All I hear is Woof! Woof! Woof!

“Both parties run on distribution of wealth. Only the blind (and the dead, apparently) don’t see that. ”
No, the dead see it very well, that’s why they keep voting for the democrats! They no which party does it best!

And Obama and Pelosi appear to be paying for it.
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That’s so wrong! They had such great ideas like making sure the money didn’t get given to Wall St. But Republicans like Chris Dodd didn’t care. And those Goldman guys wouldn’t leave the WH. And Lloyd Blankfein forced Obama to meet with him. Disgusting…

(Okay, on the know nothing part, they’re likely not pretending. I’ll give them that.)
Posted by: dawn_marie
——————————————-LMAO Teirra..just can’t give up the MEDIA MATTERs left wing radical RANTS..
OBAMA VS AMERICA

Please, where all the Mensa commenters when we were falling like a rock because of an decade long War/Lie? Where were you Republicans that care so much American, when ENRON carted billions out of the US Economy, You live in the now, but forget everything that has happened to us as a Nation. So sad…so sad. Polls will run the favor of the right and not the rich!
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Go easy. We were tricked by Bush into agreeing about WMDs and war and then keeping the money flowing. We had no choice! And Enron? Talk to that Republican Krugman about that.

“Everyone saw the same reports, and had the same fears.”
Exactly.
The Bush admin offered up doctored reports and then reinforced the fears via associating Iraq with 9/11 as much as possible.
So where are the WMDs?

“So where are the WMDs?”
Ask Al Gore and Bill Clinton.”
They made the decision to invade Iraq?
And here I thought it was President Bush and his administration.
From Wiki (sources linked there)
Donald Rumsfeld :
You and a few other critics are the only people I’ve heard use the phrase immediate threat. I didn’t, the president didn’t. And it’s become kind of folklore that that’s what’s happened.
CBS Face the Nation, March 14, 2004
But no terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
Hearing Before the House Armed Services Committee, September 10, 2002
And for something ironic
“it seems to me that it’s up to all of us to try to tell the truth, to say what we know, to say what we don’t know, and recognize that we’re dealing with people that are perfectly willing to, to lie to the world to attempt to further their case and to the extent people lie of, ultimately they are caught lying and they lose their credibility and one would think it wouldn’t take very for that to happen dealing with people like this.”

Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 7, 2010 3:31:35 PM
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Ryan C: “They [Bill Clinton/Al Gore] made the decision to invade Iraq?”
Bill Clinton made the decision to take military action against Iraq well before Bush came to power.
“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.”
Part of President Bill Clinton’s address to the American people on the US-led attack on Iraq, December 16, 1998

Everyone be cool, combat is over in Iraq:
Sep 5, 4:52 PM (ET)
By BARBARA SURK
BAGHDAD (AP) – Days after the U.S. officially ended combat operations and touted Iraq’s ability to defend itself, American troops found themselves battling heavily armed militants assaulting an Iraqi military headquarters in the center of Baghdad on Sunday. The fighting killed 12 people and wounded dozens.
It was the first exchange of fire involving U.S. troops in Baghdad since the Aug. 31 deadline for formally ending the combat mission, and it showed that American troops remaining in the country are still being drawn into the fighting.

“But no one in Congress is going to seriously vote against funding to actually defeat a funding bill.”
Bad edit here.
“But no one in Congress is going to seriously vote against funding to THE POINT OF actually defeating a funding bill”

We are the greatest coountry in the history of countries and we are also the greatest of the stupidist and most ignorant people ever.

right wingers may be fine
Didn’t you leave out a few people that happened to be Democrats?

If tax cuts are being proposed shouldnt they go to middle class working people rather than some CEO who will just write-off the equipment he intended to buy anyway and give himself a big fat raise? There is nothing to stop him from doing this. Why not give a tax break or tax credit to the guy who had to take a lesser-paying job ala ‘making work pay’ – wouldnt a $5000 tax credit give people more incentive to find a job?

“the Republicans certainly have never done anything to benefit the middle class, and many of the middle class woes now can be lain at their feet.”
Nothing John Kerry, Geithner and Rangel can’t fix.
Posted by: 1040 | Sep 7, 2010 1:05:29 PM
And yet, 1040, you can’t name a thing the Republicans have done to benefit the middle class. Nice distraction, but doesn’t change the facts.
Rangel should resign— but so should Ensign and Vitter, yes? (Jindal certainly doesn’t think much of Vitter– or at least he’s not willing to extend his support.) Kerry is wealthy, but so are congressmen Issa, McCaul, Buchanan and Senator McCain. Doesn’t change the fact that every Republican in Congress voted against middle class tax cuts, aid to small business, etc. — slamming the door repeatedly in the face of those who aren’t part of the economic elite– while Kerry voted aye.

Republicans Win in November – President Obama Takes the Wheel
Commentary by Patrick McCormick
Primitive Politics Sept 6, 2010
For nearly two years, the republican minority has thwarted Democratic legislation. They had just enough votes and more than enough tricks to do so. Most of US have sat back and watched as our leaders fiddled and danced around some very important issues. Neither side was willing to compromise. It has been an excessively painful performance to watch. The economy is in bad shape, people are out of work and almost nothing positive has been done.
The party in power usually takes the blame for failure and it looks as if the Democratic Congressmen and Senators are going to pay a heavy price for it. There were many promises made during Barack Obama’s run for the White House; very few of them have been kept. The people are angry and they are going to direct that anger somewhere. It appears the GOP will take control of both houses.
Ah, but then the shoe will be on the other foot. The Republican Party will have to take the blame for further failure. Democrats will still hold a large number of seats and the president will have veto power. They can become the party of NO, if they wish. If that happens the big losers will be the American People, and they will be extremely angry in 2012. Tremendous pressure will be on the President and the Republicans to create some meaningful legislation. They will be forced to cooperate with each other; politics makes such strange bedfellows.
An opportunity to become a truly Great Statesman will fall, like manna from heaven, into President Obama’s lap. If he responds positively, sits down, and comprises with the New Congress, we could pull out of this recession. Barack Obama would then go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. Think about it… the Republican Party would give him, the object of their most vehement scorn, a great chance at re-election.
If he just says, “No” very little legislation will be passed. This President will take a place of shame next to Herbert Hoover and our Nation will be in deep trouble.
The next two years are going to be very interesting.

Posted by: Noz | Sep 7, 2010 5:30:29 PM
Good lord, man, how far do you have to go back to come up with a couple of those and how do you connect the dots to benefiting the middle class in some cases??? And only one, maybe one and a half, would be considered accurate to those not inside the Republican tank and inhaling paid-for fumes.
(They didn’t pay for their wars or tax anyone to pay for national defense; they borrowed money from China, and they’ve built up the military via deficit spending– ask Reagan how that works. Not many people think the response to 9/11 was quick and decisive– we’re still in Afghanistan– longest US war evah and we veered astray and went into Iraq. etc, etc. And when were the borders secure– if they were secure, how did the 9/11 terrorists pull off their job and how is it that illegal immigration and border violence is down NOW, thanks to the Obama admin’s efforts and Republicans are whining and stomping their feet and ethnic scapegoating and lying about beheadings… crazy stuff)
Thanks for playing though, I needed a good chuckle.– lol, lol, lol.
(As a reminder, the statement, was “you can’t name a thing the Republicans have done to benefit the middle class.”)

teachers cops and firefighters….all over paid, over pensioned and over benefitted. important jobs ..yes but significantly overpaid and unwilling to take cuts while the rest of society does.the new class warfare is with public (union)workers vs private sector workers. there is not enough wealth to take care of any of this.time to fire them all and start over.

obama continues to villify the 3% of the country who made money so that the 97% wont focus on reality. the real focus should be on the 535 people control(house and senate)what 330 million do and they ignore the will of those 330 million. quit blaming the wealthy because they made money off someones back…quit do your own thing…you cant cause 535 people are their to stop you.

“teachers cops and firefighters….all over paid, over pensioned and over benefitted. important jobs ..yes but significantly overpaid and unwilling to take cuts while the rest of society does.”
The mind boggles…..

I am amazed how the republicans have convinced the public that this mess is Obama’s. It is their mess of 8 years of neglect and spending on two wars. They did not help unemployment which was a factor during the later three years of their administration and housing and finally the banks. Bush was the first to give bailout and if you remember Obama and Mc Cain did not want to but in the interest of working together for the country..they gave in. This concept of working together is not one rep. do. As to health care, recently nine states have signed up to receive the benefits of the health care program for employees who are retiring early. Seems they think it is a good thing. The stimulus has helped..without it we would have a 15 or 20% unemployment rate and most economists know this and have said it over the last few months. Now as to health care. they accuse Obama of not listening to their ideas on health care…he incorporated many of their ideas (a fact they ignor) and yet when he said on t.v. I can live with many of your ideas which of ours can you deal with. The silence in the room spoke volumes. they refuse to work with this man and give him no respect. I am appalled at at their attitude and selfcentered politics. An x-republican.

“you can’t name a thing the Republicans have done to benefit the middle class.”
Republicans lowered tax rates for the middle and lower classes, tax rates that Obama appears to want kept in place.

Posted by: Sigmonde
But in a time of economic crisis, they all voted no for additional middle class tax cuts, while pressing for more tax cuts for the economic elite, meaning their concern is actually with the economic elite.
Had they been more responsible when they enacted the tax cuts you’re talking about, we wouldn’t be in quite the mess we’re in now. (The Bush-Republican tax cuts passed in 2001 and 2003 are still the the single largest cause of America’s structural deficit — meaning the deficit not caused by the collapse in tax revenue when the economy goes into recession. Check it out.)

He could be citing ending slavery as the last Republican civil rights achievement.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 7, 2010 6:03:09 PM
Hmm, i gues your forgetting about a man in his late 40′s filabustering the civial rights bill….HMMMMM…..
Remember the Byrd!

Negative people are really boring. When you read some of the posts here, one would think nine out of ten people are unemployed.
The reality is 90% of the workforce that wants to work is employed. The economy suffered terrible set back in the Fall of 2008 where trillions of $$ of equity was vanished into thin air.
The facts are the economy is in a soft recovery from 2008 but growing and will not reach full capacity less than two year from the point of impact from the Great Recession of 2008. It will take time but none the less the economy is growing.
By the way I have experienced seven recessions in my life time when either Democrats and Republicans were in power in Congress.
Recessions do not recognize political power or political parties.

The Democrat’s are acting like an animal caught in a leg trap. They viciously attack anyone who comes close as they chew their leg off to get free!

Many Tea party groups have woke up to the fact that the Federal Reserve is a private bank that has destroyed the value of dollar (By 90% since 1913). Furthermore they realize that there is a false left right paradigm in place designed to distract from the real issues at hand. I voted for Obama the first time (SORRY) but will be voting for Ron Paul this time around. After the election I had a chance to read Ron Paul’s book END THE FED. This man is spot on.

While panty-waist Obama and Reid complain about Republican opposition, criticizing the GOP as obstructionists, they forget how just 4 years earlier they were the ones playing the obstructionist. They forget how they relentlessly undermined our troops, opposing a troop surge that worked after all, opposing the Bush tax cuts – while Obama now considers reinstating tax cuts to large corporations, etc. they forget that you don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.

guess people are tired of the namby pambies…..

Sigmonde: WRONG. Tax cuts definitely cause deficits without spending cuts. Definitely.

WRONG. Tax cuts definitely cause deficits without spending cuts. Definitely.
Posted by: insidiator | Sep 7, 2010 9:46:17 PM
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Q: What happened to US Government revenue every year from 2002-2008? Did revenues increase or decrease?

Tax cuts definitely cause deficits without spending cuts. Definitely.
Posted by: insidiator | Sep 7, 2010 9:46:17 PM
Bush’s certainly did cause deficits. His administration doubled the national debt and left the country in very poor shape for the economic collapse that happened under his administration.

“Q: What happened to US Government revenue every year from 2002-2008? Did revenues increase or decrease?”
Even Greenspan recently stated quite clearly on national TV that tax cuts don’t pay for themselves on their own.
A: They increased, because of revenue from capital gains taxes on the housing bubble.
Q: If you cut tax rates to zero how much revenue will be generated?

Wow, what a mixed up populace, huh?
Posted by: Woody | Sep 7, 2010 9:11:19 PM
Its in the ABC/WaPo poll, and other polling as well. Dig into it. Or read Kevin Drum’s post, then dig into it. Draw your conclusions as you deem appropriate. Based on the majority of your posts, I doubt I’ll find your conclusions logical or even-keeled, but that’s neither here nor there.
Its the economy, imho.
I think the populace knows it was Bush’s fault, but they’re sick of everybody in DC and are blaming the Dems for not getting us out of the mess more quickly. And there is an enthusiasm gap. Younger voters tend to check out a bit during midterms– and younger voters tend to be Democrat.
The problem with all that is that voting in Republicans will ensure the mess lingers.
People also may be thinking back to ’94, but in ’94 there were some Republicans with brains and conscience and we weren’t in the hole we are now with wars lingering, etc.
Its sad. The one thing Republicans are good at is warmongering, and its pretty clear that this time they are waging their unnecessary war of aggression against us.
On top of that, Boehner comes off as a rather lazy bronze-colored club-hopping members-only empty suit. Even if he wanted to, I don’t think he’d recognize a good idea if it bit him in the nose. And there won’t be enough new thoughtful ego-in-check, put-the-country-first senators from either party to change the gridlock and b.s. that goes down there.

Posted by: dawn_marie | Sep 7, 2010 10:20:49 PM
Excellent comments consistently dawn_marie – always substantive and well documented. It shows the level of discourse that can take place beyond calling someone ‘girlie’. How lame the righters can be . ..

You can’t be serious Dawn.
You think the republicans will make the economy worse? So you think everything the democrats have done helps the economy? Wow.
How about Obama’s comment of bankrupting energy companies, you think that helps the economy?

Steve
The fact is it doesn’t matter witch party is in power. The establishment Democrats empower Big Government and the establishment Republicans fancy Multi National – billon dollar corporations. In the end we get screwed every time! It is time to vote for candidates that represent the people – Not banks or oil companies. It is time to set aside political parties and vote in a candidate that has our best interests at hart. And NO that is not McCain or Mit R ! For any of you wondering this is what the Tea Party is about.

This whole word game about tax cuts not causing deficits is annoying. A deficit arises due to an imbalance between revenues and spending. The Bush tax cuts without corresponding tax cuts, while beginning two wars, one unnecessary and an act of aggression, absolutely account for much of our structural deficit. For a quick ‘n easy on the Bush tax cuts, see Five myths about the Bush tax cuts, by William Gale, WaPo (note the one about the deficit is talking about the entire deficit, not just the structural deficit) and then go to cbpp. An article there that I highly recommend is “Critics Still Wrong on What’s Driving Deficits in Coming Years: Economic Downturn, Financial Rescues, and Bush-Era Policies Drive the Numbers.
“Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for almost $7 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019, including the associated debt-service costs.” (Kathy Ruffing and James R. Horney)
Yes, vette girl, I absolutely think the Republicans will make the economy worse.
They have voted no to job creation, pro-business proposals, small business aid, jobs for teachers, cops, and firefighters, middle class tax cuts without bigger tax cuts for the economically elite (especially the billionaire Koch brothers and Murdoch, I’m sure). they called the escrow account from BP to ensure damages are paid to those affected by the BP, including business owners, a “shakedown.”
They are good at warmongering. Its clear now they’re waging their war of aggression against the 98-99% of Americans who aren’t both part of the economic elite and Republican.

A: They increased, because of revenue from capital gains taxes on the housing bubble.
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Uh, Skip, where are you getting your misinfo about housing profits and capital gains taxes? Anyone paying capital gains on a residence deserves to pay them or they are a fool. No one is paying them now, though.

Today’s Democrats in power not only fail in policy making, they seem to stand against America.
Many will vote a straight Republican ticket on Nov. 2 in order to make a direct point to Democrats wanna bees. The point is that you’re either for U.S., or against us….

Captain Clueless and the DemocRATs are going to have to pay the piper for having given the American people the finger for the past 2 years. They still don’t understand that they must have the consent of the governed…..to govern. Idiots.

“As a reminder, the statement, was “you can’t name a thing the Republicans have done to benefit the middle class.”" – dawn_marie
Now I understand where your confusion lies. You are looking for Social Programs Designed for the Middle Class created by Government. I think you are looking for that in the wrong country. Try France.

The funny thing about Democrats everybody else is a Republican or an agent of the Republicans. That is what is wrong with america, the two party system have failed. The parties realized how bad after the 1992 H. Ross Perot campaign which began the education of the American citizen. All his townhall meetings, flow charts, diagrams, and powerpoint presentations. So if the liberal think the republicans are not as scared as the democrats than they are not watching who have been relieved of office.