I’m losing confidence in his foreign policy.
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Iraqi soldier kills 2 U.S. soldiers
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 7:43 p.m. EDT
Posted by: Combat is Over | September 7, 2010, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I notice that the first person ABC talked to in Ohio said he wants the president to create jobs.
Not cut the deficit, not hand out tax cuts to the economically elite but rather create jobs.
Republicans vote against job creation and small business aid.
Meanwhile, enough with the b.s. about Obama not being pro-business. See Ezra Klein, The pro-business White House (he notes the President’s pro-business proposals: “There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for research and development. There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for equipment investment. There’s the one to give small businesses a $30 billion lending fund, and also reverse a provision of the health-care reform bill that would’ve forced them to spend a lot of time on 1099 tax compliance. There’s the one to spend $50 billion paying private companies to rebuild our infrastructure.”)
Posted by: true blue | September 7, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Posted by: true blue | Sep 7, 2010 10:45:27 PM
Props to true blue for consistently well-researched and well presented posts.
Makes the right wing name callers look like children.
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Nothing Obama can say or do now matters. He has lied & deceived Americans time and again. November cometh and the Democrats will be kicked out, followed by Obama in 2012. Even the Democrats are running from Obama now…sad, very, very sad! Obama should be ashamed of himself.
True blue..you highlighted the difference between progressives and conservatives. Progressives think their job is to create jobs..conservatives think their job is to support job creation. It’s the difference between helping your child with his homework..and going to school for him.
Becky, if its such a sure thing, what’s up with the election fraud, Republican style, in Arizona and Texas (of all places)?
I think Obama should press forward with his proposals to create jobs. Its what Americans want and,more importantly, need.
Posted by: true blue | September 7, 2010, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Not only has America lost confidence in his poorly devised socialist economic experiment, but alsoin his foreign policy. Just today we learned that A Saudi once held at Guantanamo Bay has been picked up as part of a larger roundup over the weekend of operatives connected to Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Then today we learned that in the wake of Obama’s rush to get out of Iraq to score political points, an Iraqi soldier opened fire Tuesday on a group of U.S. soldiers in northern Iraq, killing two and wounding nine others.
Obama’s and liberal Democrat’s rush to clemency in pardoning one Guantanamo terrorist after another coupled with Obama’s own premature “mission accomplished” announcement for the sake of cheap political points is displaying the Democrat’s true lack of good judgment.
Cindy,
If conservatives think their job is to support job creation, why don’t they do so?
They have not supported job creation; they’ve said they will not support job creation; their talking points have nothing to do with the reality of job creation and their record on job creation is horse manure.
On top of that, your analogy is worse than their record. In reality, the difference between the dems and republicans and conservatives on job creation is akin to the difference between helping your child with his homework (dems), verus feeding his homework to the dog while ranting about how overpaid his teacher is, lying about the school principal, drilling uncertainty into him and blaming people who are ethnically different from you for all of your problems, including your inability to understand your kid’s homework.
Or its the difference between offering your kids multiple opportunities that support learning and success with their school work versus setting his homework and school on fire after closing the fire department, then blaming libruls.
Puh-lease.
“conservatives.”
What do they conserve beyond cluelessness and catastrophe?
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 1:47 am 1:47 am
True blue..how do you stay up so late?
Posted by: cindy | September 8, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am
“There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for research and development. There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for equipment investment. There’s the one to give small businesses a $30 billion lending fund, and also reverse a provision of the health-care reform bill that would’ve forced them to spend a lot of time on 1099 tax compliance. There’s the one to spend $50 billion paying private companies to rebuild our infrastructure.”
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Uh, true blue, someone needs to remind your pal Ezra that those are last minute proposals made of desparation and not one of them stands a chance in hell of passing this current congress, time constraints notwithstanding. So, enough with that dishonest crap. Obama is getting this spanking based on what he’s done to date combined with his constant lying to this country.
I just hope republicans don’t get too stupid once they’re in control of the congressional calendar.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 8, 2010, 6:29 am 6:29 am
Its what Americans want and,more importantly, need.
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That is the voters rub with Progressives and Obama. More often than not “what Americans want” isn’t part of the equasion.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 8, 2010, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Obama doesn’t care what Americans need. He is only concerned about what the left wants.
Posted by: Sigmonde | September 8, 2010, 7:28 am 7:28 am
“I notice that the first person ABC talked to in Ohio said he wants the president to create jobs.” – true blue
Funny how ABC finds a confused person to talk to first, maybe to push an agenda? First off the government doesn’t create real jobs. You know, the ones that support the economy and the bulging government “service” jobs. Second, almost all of the aforementioned wonderful government jobs are made by Congress who holds the purse strings not the President.
Maybe, the person ABC News interviewed still somehow thinks Obama is the magical entity the media adored during the election.
Posted by: Noz | September 8, 2010, 7:37 am 7:37 am
“Progressives think their job is to create jobs..conservatives think their job is to support job creation. It’s the difference between helping your child with his homework..and going to school for him.” – cindy
Cindy, you win the Post-o-da-Day Award™.
In a concise way you explained, in terms a 5th grader could understand, the essence of the problem we are facing with job creation in the country.
Wouldn’t it be great if Obama could read your post and comprehend the message?!?!
Posted by: Noz | September 8, 2010, 7:44 am 7:44 am
I think the President is right on point, he is in the trenches telling us the truth as he knows it! He is running this country like a welfare mom waiting on food stamps.
Posted by: DAVDIVA | September 8, 2010, 8:13 am 8:13 am
“He is running this country like a welfare mom waiting on food stamps.”
I didn’t realize welfare moms golfed so much and vacationed on Martha’s Vineyard!
Posted by: J.R. | September 8, 2010, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Posted by: smartlillena
Oh, puh-lease. The small business proposal has been on the table for a long time. There were pro-business aspects to the stimulus, health care reform and financial regulation reform bills as well– and of course there’s auto bailout (See the Economist, “Government Motors no more
An apology is due to Barack Obama: his takeover of GM could have gone horribly wrong, but it has not” ) In fact, most of you and many progressives have complained about him being too pro-business.
Pro-business, pro-middle class, pro-jobs, pro-America. Perhaps, too much of a centrist, but today’s “conservatives” are reactionaries determined to take the country backwards. They consider the everyday middle class heroes in our communities– those who teach our kids and run into burning buildings and walk the beat in our neighborhoods– a bunch of overpaid special interests.
(clever use of oxymoron in your screen name though)
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Like Harry Reid–who has been Senate Majority Leader for nearly FOUR years–Barry Obama–who has been President for nearly TWO years and US Senator for four years before that–will remind us that he “had nothing to do with” this bad economy.
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
More often than not “what Americans want” isn’t part of the equasion.
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Silly rabbit.
Americans have clearly stated in poll after poll that jobs is their number one concern, and that they think focusing on job creation and opportunities for work ought to be the government’s number one priority.
When the private sector is unwilling or unable to do it on their own, progressives do believe the government’s role is to do what they can in keeping with our constitutional rights to improve the economy.
So do the majority of the American people. they may disagree as to the best way to accomplish that, but that’s different than what the conservatives and extreme right “new style” Republicans want.
The “conservative’s” solution is to let it crash, never mind the role the people they voted for played in creating the mess. (recession is the cure; but hey let’s make sure the wealthy robber barons are able to take full advantage, sayeth the reactionaries)
Well over a million people are employed right now due to the Recovery Act (approx. 3.3. million people); economists agree that Democrat action stopped our economy from taking a deeper dive; meanwhile the Republicans have voted or rallied against middle class tax cuts, job creation, the auto industry, teachers, firefighters and police officers, construction, infrastructure, those with pre-existing conditions, uninsured children, small businesses on the Gulf Coast, religious diversity, freedom of religion, and immigrants.
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am
“economists agree that Democrat action stopped our economy from taking a deeper dive”
Posted by: true blue | Sep 8, 2010 10:34:20 AM
What “economists”? Any that work OUTSIDE the White House?
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 10:48 am 10:48 am
What “economists”?
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The list is long. Start with Zandi and Blinder, and continue from there. Check analyses form economic research firms such as IHS Global Insight, Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s. See also the CBO analyses, and the reports at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities.
As Stephen Colbert puts it,”Reality has a well-known liberal bias.”
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
“When the private sector is unwilling or unable to do it on their own, progressives do believe the government’s role is to do what they can in keeping with our constitutional rights to improve the economy.”
The success of the stimulus in lowering the unemployment rate is proof of progressive success in such matters.
Posted by: Another 50 | September 8, 2010, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Posted by: true blue | Sep 8, 2010 11:00:43 AM
Yet, you Libs are unwilling to listen to President Obama’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget, Peter Orszag, when he proposes extending ALL of Bush’s tax cuts.
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Another 50, the economic disaster is the evidence of the success of Bush’s economic and fiscal policies. Even Bruce Bartlett and David Stockman, who worked for Republican admin’s prior to W, admit as much. Have you read their takes?
In recent polling (WSJ/NBC) when asked what concerns them most, Americans responded a return to Bush’s policies and privatizing social security, both on the reactionary agenda.
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Sure folks listen to the no news station which has been bashing this president since day one.Instead why ot try a station that is telling you the truth…how many lies can you take before you start to wonder about these guys. Even yesterday someone had to apologize for Judge Napolitano’s lies and this was a surprise they did this. I guess some of them are also realizing people are catching on to them. Many, many economists on different stations have said the tax break for the upper income people will not help the economy but only add to the deficit while the lower income people are the ones who effect the economy the most. They are the spenders believe it or not. They want tobuy houses, cars, take care of families and their homes while the upper income have their money in tax loophols and in foreign banks to save on taxes. I hope he stays the course and keeps up the good work he has done because they stimulus did work and he has saved us from a depression. Things are not perfect but he has been trying for only 18 months and people want instant gratification. It took the last 8 years to get into this with two unpaid for wars and a medicare prescription plan unpaid for adding to the deficit to the tune of 2.5 t. dollars. To keep the tax breaks for the upper income who has seen much profits even in these last bad months is wrong. Their incomes has increased 250% while the incomes of the little guy has remained at 18% for the last several years. Something is wrong here and the little guy needs to know the republicans will not be fighting for them but only for big business, banks and insurance companies which will once again determinewhat they will pay and who they will throw off. Do we want that back again? I think not.
Lying Liar,
Orszag said that extending the middle class tax cuts would be the ideal. Read his column. Problem is that he knows the conservatives and Republicans don’t care about the middle class. They’ve voted against middle class tax cuts before, and fairly recently. Hence, Orszag recommends compromise for 2 years. I say let’s see if we can convince the Republicans and conservatives that thos who make less than $250,000 — 97%-98% of the populuation–are important. We may not. Its clear they don’t care about the non-elite. But let’s try. Why would they vote against middle class tax cuts?
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
From the Washington Post (9/7/10):
Democrats in Congress are no longer asking themselves whether this is going to be a bad election year for them and their party. They are asking whether it is going to be a disaster.
The GOP pushed deep into Democratic-held territory over the summer, to the point where the party is well within range of picking up the 39 seats it would need to take control of the House. Overall, as many as 80 House seats could be at risk, and fewer than a dozen of these are held by Republicans.
Political handicappers now say it is conceivable that the Republicans could also win the 10 seats they need to take back the Senate. Not since 1930 has the House changed hands without the Senate following suit.
Even if Republicans do not win enough seats to wrest control of Congress, they appear poised to increase their numbers enough to block Democratic bills and all but halt President Obama’s agenda.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
true blue: “the economic disaster is the evidence of the success of Bush’s economic and fiscal policies.”
Liberal Democrats have controlled both chambers of Congress (and all legislation and tax policy) since January 2007. That’s a total of nearly four years that includes the last two years of Bush’s second term.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Posted by: Mary |
The biggest issues that led to the poor economic performance of the 00′s, the fiscal deficit, the housing bubble burst, the year and a half of the bailout that definitively started with Bush, the skyrocketing unemployment and Bush recession were in play prior to January 2007– though it is true that the Dems weren’t able to act quickly enough to stop the tumble of the domino road the Republicans had set up and pushed, and weren’t fully empowered to do so. In that regard you can go back to the Clinton admin as well and the Congress in charge at that time.
Surprised with your alleged financial background you don’t really understand the crisis, what happened, what’s just politics, etc. Politics trumps facts, heh?
If you look back, the Democrats absolutely weren’t the ones lying about the fundamentals and how strong they were, with a veto pen in hand– or the ones in charge of Fed policy, SEC, HUD, Fannie, Freddie, etc., etc.
They *were* the ones who acted quickly when the economy was about to go over the cliff and Bush asked for help.
And the Republicans were– and still are– drinking slurpees and talking about tax fairies.
Meanwhile, where is Jake’s reporting on Orszag’s clarification ?
Greg Sargent: “Orszag wants it clearer that he only supports a compromise extending the tax cuts for the rich if it’s absolutely necessary; his stance can’t be used as ammo by foes of letting them expire. He hinted at that in yesterday’s Op ed, but it got lost in the “rift rift rift” coverage.”
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
true blue: “Surprised with your alleged financial background you don’t really understand the crisis, what happened, what’s just politics, etc. Politics trumps facts, heh?”
Back in May, Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and Daniel Klein, a professor of economics at George Mason University, asked 4,835 respondents (all American adults) eight survey questions about basic economics. They also asked the respondents about their political leanings.
How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst, with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative, 1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69; Progressive/very liberal, 5.26.
Conservatives/libertarians on average incorrectly answered 18.8 percent of the time as compared to the progressives/liberals who incorrectly answered questions on basic economics a whopping 67.6 percent of the time.
According to the researchers, the left had trouble squaring economic thinking with their political psychology, morals and aesthetics.
The conclusion of the study is that progressives/liberals don’t understand basic economics. The posts we read here in the ABC blogs only confirm their findings.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
“Back in May, Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and Daniel Klein, a professor of economics at George Mason University”
ROFLMAO!
Junk science at its finest which the authors freely admit as much.
They even used Zogby Interactive’s poll of self selecting participants!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Who you gonna believe….Pres Barry or your lying eyes?
Back in June Pres Barry said that there will be ups and downs–employment-wise. Something like that….
Did Pres Barry think he could use our taxes to make all those temporary census jobs permanent or simply create other government jobs?
Pres Barry is now saying this really good jobs bill is stalled in the Senate, where so much administration legislation has been crammed through so effectively by Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Reid’s been so good at it, in fact, that he’s now running for his political life in a reelection campaign back in Nevada where unemployment is 14% and Obama’s legislation is not so popular.
The Democrats have controlled both houses of Congress since the 2006 election and really controlled them both since the 2008 hopey-changey balloting.
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I’m losing confidence in his foreign policy.
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Iraqi soldier kills 2 U.S. soldiers
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 7, 2010 7:43 p.m. EDT
Posted by: Combat is Over | September 7, 2010, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I notice that the first person ABC talked to in Ohio said he wants the president to create jobs.
Not cut the deficit, not hand out tax cuts to the economically elite but rather create jobs.
Republicans vote against job creation and small business aid.
Meanwhile, enough with the b.s. about Obama not being pro-business. See Ezra Klein, The pro-business White House (he notes the President’s pro-business proposals: “There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for research and development. There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for equipment investment. There’s the one to give small businesses a $30 billion lending fund, and also reverse a provision of the health-care reform bill that would’ve forced them to spend a lot of time on 1099 tax compliance. There’s the one to spend $50 billion paying private companies to rebuild our infrastructure.”)
Posted by: true blue | September 7, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Posted by: true blue | Sep 7, 2010 10:45:27 PM
Props to true blue for consistently well-researched and well presented posts.
Makes the right wing name callers look like children.
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Nothing Obama can say or do now matters. He has lied & deceived Americans time and again. November cometh and the Democrats will be kicked out, followed by Obama in 2012. Even the Democrats are running from Obama now…sad, very, very sad! Obama should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Becky | September 7, 2010, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
True blue..you highlighted the difference between progressives and conservatives. Progressives think their job is to create jobs..conservatives think their job is to support job creation. It’s the difference between helping your child with his homework..and going to school for him.
Posted by: cindy | September 7, 2010, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Becky, if its such a sure thing, what’s up with the election fraud, Republican style, in Arizona and Texas (of all places)?
I think Obama should press forward with his proposals to create jobs. Its what Americans want and,more importantly, need.
Posted by: true blue | September 7, 2010, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Not only has America lost confidence in his poorly devised socialist economic experiment, but alsoin his foreign policy. Just today we learned that A Saudi once held at Guantanamo Bay has been picked up as part of a larger roundup over the weekend of operatives connected to Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. Then today we learned that in the wake of Obama’s rush to get out of Iraq to score political points, an Iraqi soldier opened fire Tuesday on a group of U.S. soldiers in northern Iraq, killing two and wounding nine others.
Obama’s and liberal Democrat’s rush to clemency in pardoning one Guantanamo terrorist after another coupled with Obama’s own premature “mission accomplished” announcement for the sake of cheap political points is displaying the Democrat’s true lack of good judgment.
Posted by: EPU | September 7, 2010, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Cindy,
If conservatives think their job is to support job creation, why don’t they do so?
They have not supported job creation; they’ve said they will not support job creation; their talking points have nothing to do with the reality of job creation and their record on job creation is horse manure.
On top of that, your analogy is worse than their record. In reality, the difference between the dems and republicans and conservatives on job creation is akin to the difference between helping your child with his homework (dems), verus feeding his homework to the dog while ranting about how overpaid his teacher is, lying about the school principal, drilling uncertainty into him and blaming people who are ethnically different from you for all of your problems, including your inability to understand your kid’s homework.
Or its the difference between offering your kids multiple opportunities that support learning and success with their school work versus setting his homework and school on fire after closing the fire department, then blaming libruls.
Puh-lease.
“conservatives.”
What do they conserve beyond cluelessness and catastrophe?
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 1:47 am 1:47 am
True blue..how do you stay up so late?
Posted by: cindy | September 8, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am
“There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for research and development. There’s the one to give businesses billions of dollars in tax breaks for equipment investment. There’s the one to give small businesses a $30 billion lending fund, and also reverse a provision of the health-care reform bill that would’ve forced them to spend a lot of time on 1099 tax compliance. There’s the one to spend $50 billion paying private companies to rebuild our infrastructure.”
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Uh, true blue, someone needs to remind your pal Ezra that those are last minute proposals made of desparation and not one of them stands a chance in hell of passing this current congress, time constraints notwithstanding. So, enough with that dishonest crap. Obama is getting this spanking based on what he’s done to date combined with his constant lying to this country.
I just hope republicans don’t get too stupid once they’re in control of the congressional calendar.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 8, 2010, 6:29 am 6:29 am
Its what Americans want and,more importantly, need.
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That is the voters rub with Progressives and Obama. More often than not “what Americans want” isn’t part of the equasion.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 8, 2010, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Obama doesn’t care what Americans need. He is only concerned about what the left wants.
Posted by: Sigmonde | September 8, 2010, 7:28 am 7:28 am
“I notice that the first person ABC talked to in Ohio said he wants the president to create jobs.” – true blue
Funny how ABC finds a confused person to talk to first, maybe to push an agenda? First off the government doesn’t create real jobs. You know, the ones that support the economy and the bulging government “service” jobs. Second, almost all of the aforementioned wonderful government jobs are made by Congress who holds the purse strings not the President.
Maybe, the person ABC News interviewed still somehow thinks Obama is the magical entity the media adored during the election.
Posted by: Noz | September 8, 2010, 7:37 am 7:37 am
“Progressives think their job is to create jobs..conservatives think their job is to support job creation. It’s the difference between helping your child with his homework..and going to school for him.” – cindy
Cindy, you win the Post-o-da-Day Award™.
In a concise way you explained, in terms a 5th grader could understand, the essence of the problem we are facing with job creation in the country.
Wouldn’t it be great if Obama could read your post and comprehend the message?!?!
Posted by: Noz | September 8, 2010, 7:44 am 7:44 am
I think the President is right on point, he is in the trenches telling us the truth as he knows it! He is running this country like a welfare mom waiting on food stamps.
Posted by: DAVDIVA | September 8, 2010, 8:13 am 8:13 am
“He is running this country like a welfare mom waiting on food stamps.”
I didn’t realize welfare moms golfed so much and vacationed on Martha’s Vineyard!
Posted by: J.R. | September 8, 2010, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Posted by: smartlillena
Oh, puh-lease. The small business proposal has been on the table for a long time. There were pro-business aspects to the stimulus, health care reform and financial regulation reform bills as well– and of course there’s auto bailout (See the Economist, “Government Motors no more
An apology is due to Barack Obama: his takeover of GM could have gone horribly wrong, but it has not” ) In fact, most of you and many progressives have complained about him being too pro-business.
Pro-business, pro-middle class, pro-jobs, pro-America. Perhaps, too much of a centrist, but today’s “conservatives” are reactionaries determined to take the country backwards. They consider the everyday middle class heroes in our communities– those who teach our kids and run into burning buildings and walk the beat in our neighborhoods– a bunch of overpaid special interests.
(clever use of oxymoron in your screen name though)
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Like Harry Reid–who has been Senate Majority Leader for nearly FOUR years–Barry Obama–who has been President for nearly TWO years and US Senator for four years before that–will remind us that he “had nothing to do with” this bad economy.
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
More often than not “what Americans want” isn’t part of the equasion.
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Silly rabbit.
Americans have clearly stated in poll after poll that jobs is their number one concern, and that they think focusing on job creation and opportunities for work ought to be the government’s number one priority.
When the private sector is unwilling or unable to do it on their own, progressives do believe the government’s role is to do what they can in keeping with our constitutional rights to improve the economy.
So do the majority of the American people. they may disagree as to the best way to accomplish that, but that’s different than what the conservatives and extreme right “new style” Republicans want.
The “conservative’s” solution is to let it crash, never mind the role the people they voted for played in creating the mess. (recession is the cure; but hey let’s make sure the wealthy robber barons are able to take full advantage, sayeth the reactionaries)
Well over a million people are employed right now due to the Recovery Act (approx. 3.3. million people); economists agree that Democrat action stopped our economy from taking a deeper dive; meanwhile the Republicans have voted or rallied against middle class tax cuts, job creation, the auto industry, teachers, firefighters and police officers, construction, infrastructure, those with pre-existing conditions, uninsured children, small businesses on the Gulf Coast, religious diversity, freedom of religion, and immigrants.
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am
“economists agree that Democrat action stopped our economy from taking a deeper dive”
Posted by: true blue | Sep 8, 2010 10:34:20 AM
What “economists”? Any that work OUTSIDE the White House?
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 10:48 am 10:48 am
What “economists”?
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The list is long. Start with Zandi and Blinder, and continue from there. Check analyses form economic research firms such as IHS Global Insight, Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s. See also the CBO analyses, and the reports at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities.
As Stephen Colbert puts it,”Reality has a well-known liberal bias.”
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
“When the private sector is unwilling or unable to do it on their own, progressives do believe the government’s role is to do what they can in keeping with our constitutional rights to improve the economy.”
The success of the stimulus in lowering the unemployment rate is proof of progressive success in such matters.
Posted by: Another 50 | September 8, 2010, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Posted by: true blue | Sep 8, 2010 11:00:43 AM
Yet, you Libs are unwilling to listen to President Obama’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget, Peter Orszag, when he proposes extending ALL of Bush’s tax cuts.
Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Another 50, the economic disaster is the evidence of the success of Bush’s economic and fiscal policies. Even Bruce Bartlett and David Stockman, who worked for Republican admin’s prior to W, admit as much. Have you read their takes?
In recent polling (WSJ/NBC) when asked what concerns them most, Americans responded a return to Bush’s policies and privatizing social security, both on the reactionary agenda.
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Sure folks listen to the no news station which has been bashing this president since day one.Instead why ot try a station that is telling you the truth…how many lies can you take before you start to wonder about these guys. Even yesterday someone had to apologize for Judge Napolitano’s lies and this was a surprise they did this. I guess some of them are also realizing people are catching on to them. Many, many economists on different stations have said the tax break for the upper income people will not help the economy but only add to the deficit while the lower income people are the ones who effect the economy the most. They are the spenders believe it or not. They want tobuy houses, cars, take care of families and their homes while the upper income have their money in tax loophols and in foreign banks to save on taxes. I hope he stays the course and keeps up the good work he has done because they stimulus did work and he has saved us from a depression. Things are not perfect but he has been trying for only 18 months and people want instant gratification. It took the last 8 years to get into this with two unpaid for wars and a medicare prescription plan unpaid for adding to the deficit to the tune of 2.5 t. dollars. To keep the tax breaks for the upper income who has seen much profits even in these last bad months is wrong. Their incomes has increased 250% while the incomes of the little guy has remained at 18% for the last several years. Something is wrong here and the little guy needs to know the republicans will not be fighting for them but only for big business, banks and insurance companies which will once again determinewhat they will pay and who they will throw off. Do we want that back again? I think not.
Posted by: talmag | September 8, 2010, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Lying Liar,
Orszag said that extending the middle class tax cuts would be the ideal. Read his column. Problem is that he knows the conservatives and Republicans don’t care about the middle class. They’ve voted against middle class tax cuts before, and fairly recently. Hence, Orszag recommends compromise for 2 years. I say let’s see if we can convince the Republicans and conservatives that thos who make less than $250,000 — 97%-98% of the populuation–are important. We may not. Its clear they don’t care about the non-elite. But let’s try. Why would they vote against middle class tax cuts?
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
From the Washington Post (9/7/10):
Democrats in Congress are no longer asking themselves whether this is going to be a bad election year for them and their party. They are asking whether it is going to be a disaster.
The GOP pushed deep into Democratic-held territory over the summer, to the point where the party is well within range of picking up the 39 seats it would need to take control of the House. Overall, as many as 80 House seats could be at risk, and fewer than a dozen of these are held by Republicans.
Political handicappers now say it is conceivable that the Republicans could also win the 10 seats they need to take back the Senate. Not since 1930 has the House changed hands without the Senate following suit.
Even if Republicans do not win enough seats to wrest control of Congress, they appear poised to increase their numbers enough to block Democratic bills and all but halt President Obama’s agenda.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
true blue: “the economic disaster is the evidence of the success of Bush’s economic and fiscal policies.”
Liberal Democrats have controlled both chambers of Congress (and all legislation and tax policy) since January 2007. That’s a total of nearly four years that includes the last two years of Bush’s second term.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Posted by: Mary |
The biggest issues that led to the poor economic performance of the 00′s, the fiscal deficit, the housing bubble burst, the year and a half of the bailout that definitively started with Bush, the skyrocketing unemployment and Bush recession were in play prior to January 2007– though it is true that the Dems weren’t able to act quickly enough to stop the tumble of the domino road the Republicans had set up and pushed, and weren’t fully empowered to do so. In that regard you can go back to the Clinton admin as well and the Congress in charge at that time.
Surprised with your alleged financial background you don’t really understand the crisis, what happened, what’s just politics, etc. Politics trumps facts, heh?
If you look back, the Democrats absolutely weren’t the ones lying about the fundamentals and how strong they were, with a veto pen in hand– or the ones in charge of Fed policy, SEC, HUD, Fannie, Freddie, etc., etc.
They *were* the ones who acted quickly when the economy was about to go over the cliff and Bush asked for help.
And the Republicans were– and still are– drinking slurpees and talking about tax fairies.
Meanwhile, where is Jake’s reporting on Orszag’s clarification ?
Greg Sargent: “Orszag wants it clearer that he only supports a compromise extending the tax cuts for the rich if it’s absolutely necessary; his stance can’t be used as ammo by foes of letting them expire. He hinted at that in yesterday’s Op ed, but it got lost in the “rift rift rift” coverage.”
Posted by: true blue | September 8, 2010, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
true blue: “Surprised with your alleged financial background you don’t really understand the crisis, what happened, what’s just politics, etc. Politics trumps facts, heh?”
Back in May, Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and Daniel Klein, a professor of economics at George Mason University, asked 4,835 respondents (all American adults) eight survey questions about basic economics. They also asked the respondents about their political leanings.
How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst, with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative, 1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69; Progressive/very liberal, 5.26.
Conservatives/libertarians on average incorrectly answered 18.8 percent of the time as compared to the progressives/liberals who incorrectly answered questions on basic economics a whopping 67.6 percent of the time.
According to the researchers, the left had trouble squaring economic thinking with their political psychology, morals and aesthetics.
The conclusion of the study is that progressives/liberals don’t understand basic economics. The posts we read here in the ABC blogs only confirm their findings.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
“Back in May, Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and Daniel Klein, a professor of economics at George Mason University”
ROFLMAO!
Junk science at its finest which the authors freely admit as much.
They even used Zogby Interactive’s poll of self selecting participants!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Who you gonna believe….Pres Barry or your lying eyes?
Back in June Pres Barry said that there will be ups and downs–employment-wise. Something like that….
Did Pres Barry think he could use our taxes to make all those temporary census jobs permanent or simply create other government jobs?
Pres Barry is now saying this really good jobs bill is stalled in the Senate, where so much administration legislation has been crammed through so effectively by Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Reid’s been so good at it, in fact, that he’s now running for his political life in a reelection campaign back in Nevada where unemployment is 14% and Obama’s legislation is not so popular.
The Democrats have controlled both houses of Congress since the 2006 election and really controlled them both since the 2008 hopey-changey balloting.
Posted by: bl | September 8, 2010, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm