Young people, check. African Americans, check. Hell men in general, check.
Seems like the only base Obama has not left behind left are rabid, pro government quasi racists…
A TRUE sign the apocalypse is upon us… Jesse Jackson’s Cadilac Escalade just got stripped and was abandoned…
It’s even hard out there for a poverty pimp under Obama…
Um….Let’s remember sparky – the republicans can’t block anything….Dem’s control the House and the Senate.
Really getting tired of the little goof-in-chief blaming others for his screw-ups.
November is going to be a bloodbath!
Okay, Obama sinks to a 42% approaval rating today — normally a banner news item — yet ABC doesn’t report it at all. If this had been a GOP president, it would be the headline for this entire Labor Day weekend.
Thank goodness that this “recovery” summer is over. Let us hope that the electorate wakes up in time for the next elections and that this character Obama doesn’t pull something like some of his fellow-travellers’ “leaders” do in other countries when confronted with bad economy, bad polling, or facing elections! Remember Obama has alledged kinship and real travels of support to people like Odinga….
Posted by: Ed | September 4, 2010, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Without the recovery, of course.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 4, 2010, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The floor piece of the Oval Office Makeover has one quote: “The Arc of the Moral Universe Is Long, But It Bends Towards Justice”, attributed to King.
Only problem is that it’s not really King’s quote at all.
It’s Theodore Parker’s.
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Our Greatest Smartest Clueless Leader and self-proclaimed Constitution Prof simply did not know what he thought his moral mentor said. Give him a break. He did not know who Rev. Wright was sitting in his church for 20 years. Why would you expect he knows anything about King?!
What the hell you are talking about there is no recovery?
The stock market finally climbed back to the black territory before Labor Day. Seems to me a Great Summer Recovery!!!
Ha… You suckers.
Posted by: MbA | September 4, 2010, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Gee, I thought Recovery Summer was scheduled to start in November after the elections.
A poem for Mr. Obama -
Wisdom comes only from wisdom.
A weak flower must not pretend to bloom.
Strength comes only from strength.
A tree must not blame the rain, the wind or then sun.
Wisdom comes only from wisdom.
Lying comes only from a lying man.
The best hope for Obama is a Republican Congress. Right now he is without excuse. His policies are a failure & there is no one to blame. The “blame Bush” argument is old and becoming laughable.
Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2010, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
It’s hard to figure which way this man is going to jump once the House and Senate are controlled by Republicans. He doesn’t have enough class to take it like an adult.
A 42% approval rating… I wonder what the real number is ? I told the pollster who called me around 7:30 PM one evening last week to get lost.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 7:43 am 7:43 am
As fed up as Americans are with the government, we must also demand more truth and accountability from the press. I was on another news website yesterday and there was a “let’s see how smart you are” style multiple choice quiz. One of the questions was -”Who was a law professor at the University of Chicago?” The answer was..of course..Obama, except that the truth is he was never a professor but a senior lecturer. Splitting hairs?..to some..but to most of us who rely on the media to deliver accuracy, not activism, it’s just another example of the manipulation of the masses…and as long as ABC posts articles titled “communities get first look at foreclosures” to describe the latest taxpayer funded government assault on the free market, well they are part of the problem too.
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 8:39 am 8:39 am
manipulation of the masses
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Obama got himself elected by not telling the folks what he had in mind to do to this country. His more “vigilant” supporters don’t care about that and never will. Most people do care about it and it’s now getting him unelected. I just hope he gets everything he’s got coming to him in November.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Charles Stanley-Turning The Tide (still available for viewing on YouTube) is a July 4th message against our nation’s turn toward socialism that should be viewed by every citizen regardless of political or religious persuasion.
Dr. Stanley does not tell us who to vote for but clearly nails our fall into the pit.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 5, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“We need individuals who think and do what’s right for you. You’ve got to have people who think, not ideologues. Republicans are utterly impervious to evidence.” –Bill Clinton
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Posted by: cindy |
While I do think its important to fact check the media, in this instance, it may be the University of Chicago Law School that is confusing the matter:
“Statement Regarding Barack Obama
The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as “Senior Lecturer.”
From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”
–The University of Chicago Law School, under Media Inquiries
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am
“Right now, there is no coherent philosophy leading the GOP establishment other than anti-Obamaism. And while that may be an effective organizing theme for a political party whose ‘War Room’ mentality has dominated it for the past ten years, it is hardly a governing set of principles.
“Assuming November goes as expected,the GOP will shortly thereafter descend into a brawl that will resemble the bar scene from ‘Star Wars’. One side will claim the election is a vindication of Bush’s big government conservatism while another side, the Reaganites, allied with the Tea Party movement, will more astutely see the results as a repudiation of both Bush’s and Obama’s embrace of big government.”
—Craig Shirley, party activist
(He leaves out the third side– the complete nut jobs who DeMint will lead.)
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I wonder what the real number is ?
—I wonder what the real numbers are all around. Al Giordano’s primer on the 2010 US House and Senate Elections makes good points. (see, too, “Republicans In Disarray: Losing Candidates Increasingly Unwilling To Unite Behind GOP Nominees”)
Will the farce play out? I guess we’ll see.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors
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A high school football coach can be more closely defined as a teacher than Obama can be defined a professor. They teach health and sometimes driver education.
You can play all the word games you want, Obama’s claim of being a professor is as phony as everything else about him has turned out to be. That’s why his ### is being handed back to him in a hat.
Is that any better?
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Posted by: smartlillena |
In many school districts a h.s. football coach has to be a teacher, or certified to teach–and hence, would rightly be called a teacher– so what’s your point?
High school football coaches are teachers and at Univ of Chgo, senior lecturers are professors, and from there….????
Whatever it is, its not well laid out.
I’ll stick with the university of chicago’s statement.
As you say, his claim is accurate in keeping with the law school’s policy– and its as phony (not) as everything else (meaning none of it is “phony” except in the minds of those who hate him and are determined to project their own worse characteristics onto him)
The law school statement is clear, concise and coherent.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
true blue
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I’m starting to think there is no turning it around for this man. Like you say, the Republicans are ate with idiots and they’re still cleaning this man’s plow. Maybe he’ll just resign.
ROFLMFAO (but it’s not funny)
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
they’re still cleaning this man’s plow
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He’s taking (what’s left of) the DNC right along with him. It’s almost painful to watch but y’all hang in there.
With people like that running around Obama shouldn’t be having any problems.
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With what? Polls? The media he’s receiving? To be frank, I’m surprised he’s not doing worse given how unpopular DC is since the Bush-Cheney years, the economy and unemployment, two wars, etc. and how spoiled and impatient Americans are. If you haven’t noticed we have a tendency to put someone on a ridiculously high pedestal and then knock them off and laugh. Its kinda gross in a Roman colliseum kind of way– sport.
But human nature will be human nature.
Look how many ups and downs Hillary Clinton has experienced. Or others. Can’t be thin-skinned when you enter the arena.
Or are you talking about how much trouble he had passing moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq… imho, so far, so good on all of that, in keeping with his more centrist leanings. I would have preferred different legislation, but I knew where Obama stood when I voted for him, and he was the best choice.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
true blue, it is obvious that you have never attended a law school or professional school. Obama was never a law professor-period. It is an academic rank that he never attained.He doesn’t even have an active law license-how many other Illinois congressmen have the same license status?No he is not Palin-she was never carried by affirmative action policies nor by politically correct law school teachers and administrators.Why did Harvard change the Law Review president selection process the year Obama was “elected”?He is a phony-as is becoming all to apparent daily.
true blue, he didn’t pass anything. The overwhelmingly Democrat Congress of Pelosi and Reid passed it FOR him,for which they will be deservedly punished in November.By December Obama will be a lame duck-he doesn’t have the skills to handle a position were his supporters are not running the show.Affirmative action will carry him no further.
it is obvious that you have never attended a law school or professional school. Obama was never a law professor-period.
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Is it? Regardless, its obvious you never have either, and certainly not in Chicago.
There’s a lot more that is obvious as well.
With your screen name, you’d think you’d do a better job of not putting forth unfiltered waste.
As for the rest, refer back to what I said about the minds of those who hate him and are determined to project their own worse characteristics onto him. Bet it fits, though only you would know.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
true blue, he didn’t pass anything…
Pelosi and Reid passed it FOR him,for which they will be deservedly punished in November
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Nephron, are you under the mistaken impression he didn’t want that legislation passed?
As for punishment, you do sound like an authoritarian, framing it that way.
To be frank, I’m surprised the Dems in Congress and Obama are not doing worse given the economy and unemployment, two wars, how unpopular DC is since the Bush-Cheney years, and, mostly, how spoiled and impatient and allegedly “conservative” Americans are.
The right rarely elects anyone who does what they claim they want. They’re an odd bunch. What they have going for them is that its clear lies, fearmongering and dumbed down sound bites work in the good ole US of A.
Plus, in America, we have a tendency to put someone on a ridiculously high pedestal and then knock them off and laugh. Its kinda gross in a Roman colliseum kind of way. And we ridicule women in politics– like Pelosi. There was quite a hit piece on Palin as well, which focused more on her push-up bra than the actual problems with her demagoguing.
But human nature will be human nature.
I’m not sure what you all think it proves.
Personally, my loyalty lies with America and its continuity. I go with the bigger tent that actually accomplishes things that benefit the country– messy as those accomplishments may be. Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“my loyalty lies with America”-easy to say. Ever join the Service?And actually the White House was ready to back off the health bill until Pelosi was able to ram it through-of course,the Democrats that switched their votes are history-starting with Stupak.And frankly I have spent more time on the Dan Ryan Parking Lot than I care to admit.Ever been on 41?
True blue, regarding “professor” Obama….simply because someone is performing the job of a professor doesn’t make him one..I’m thinking of all the TAs in college putting in all those hours teaching their professors’ classes, grading the papers, writing the lectures, performing the research, holding office hours.. they are still not professors. I’m just a stickler for accuracy, truth, and unbiased reporting..The University of Chicago can tell me all day long he was just “like” a professor, regarded as a professor, called professor, paid as much as a professor(?), asked if he wanted to be a professor, dressed like a professor, smoked like a professor, maybe even taught better than a professor..whatever ..the stubborn fact remains he wasn’t a professor….Titles and paperwork supporting those titles do matter..if Obama himself didn’t believe it, why did he bother marrying Michelle? Couldn’t he convince her that simply performing the duties of a wife and being thought of as wife was good enough?
With what? Polls? The media he’s receiving?
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You won’t give up, will you? He’s giving himself these ratings. You can feel ABC’s pain over the story they’re running right now. We’re still waiting dems to start bragging on that HC disaster in their campaigns. That’s what the bleeding is all about- Obama putting his unspoken agenda ahead of the folks in this country and the Dem’s who were ignorant enough to march right along. 2010 is about Barak Obama and nothing else. Let’s see how well he takes the message. Forgive me if I sound a bit angry. I am.
BTW, Steve Rattner’s just written a book about his days in the Obama Admin, just in time for November. They (obama) didn’t make him sign a nondisclosure pledge? (that info comes from huffingtonpost)
true blue: “Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.”
Progressive Mama said the same thing about her grandmother. Weird.
Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
The law school statement is clear, concise and coherent.
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And it doesn’t use the term PhD once. Does Obama have a PhD?
Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.”
Progressive Mama said the same thing about her grandmother. Weird.
Posted by: Mary | Sep 5, 2010 2:18:51 PM
I don’t know that it is that weird. Its true of anyone with a grandmother or great grandmother who voted Republican back in the 40s and 50s, and even the 60s and 70s. If you look at the Republican party, they used to represent more liberal ideals– a lot of northern liberals were Republicans, and the southern conservatives and racists were Democrats.
Do you read Salon? Steve Kornacki posted an article called “The GOP’s new fake racial history: A Southern Republican with designs on challenging Barack Obama in 2012 offers a phony version of history” :
“the Republicans’ domination of the South today is a direct result of the party’s rejection of civil rights in ’64 (and Nixon’s Southern Strategy, which called for coded appeals and behind-the-scenes assistance to Southern bigots).”
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
You won’t give up, will you?
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Give up on what?
The country?
No. I agree with Bill Clinton:
“We need individuals who think and do what’s right for you. You’ve got to have people who think, not ideologues. Republicans are utterly impervious to evidence.” –Bill Clinton
Its obvious you’re angry, but it would be more interesting if you had a point other than “I’m mad and I’m going to take it out on you by talking nonsense and making as much sense as Angle or Brewer and slamming Obama because he doesn’t take my crazy self seriously and is more concerned about the country, not crazy public perception.”
I don’t think Republicans winning or not winning will mean all that much beyond gridlock and wasted resources put toward b.s. driven investigations.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Hey true blue-ever been in the service? Ever been in Chicago?
Posted by: cindy |
Cindy, the point I was making to you is that you’re blaming the media, when the statement I referred to i@ 11:11:06 AM is what the media gets what they enquire. The problem lies with how the law school itself defines it, not the media. If you have a problem with that, you should blame the law school in order to ensure you’re laying blame at the right feet. Let them know the way they use the term doesn’t suit you. I’m sure they’ll find it fascinating and consider your self-proclaimed expertise in the future.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
true blue: “I don’t know that it is that weird.”
Progressive Mama also had a habit of redirecting people to liberal/progressive artciles that reinforced her limited worldview. Often by the same authors and published in the same sources, including obscure ones.
Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Don’t accuse me of talking nonsense. Barak Obama is subject to be judged by the people of this country, one way or the other. This election is “the other way”. He should’ve been listening when he had the opportunity. By God, now he has no choice.
Does Obama have a PhD?
True Blue, It is the JOB of the media to dig for truth..(If this had been Bush, the press would have rented a backhoe for this, digging away at the U. of Chicago, fully exposing the little misrepresentation about their rising star-or asking him directly..”Dr. Obama, were you a professor at this school?”) BUT the media cast their shovels aside on this story, as they have on many others…including the one on ABC here today about the government providing billions to “local governments” to purchase foreclosed homes from banks before they are made available to the “general public” .. no doubt telling “local governments” who should be eligible to rent/buy these government owned homes-and for how much.. Anyone with nostrils smells something foul here..but ABC titles the article “communities get first look at foreclosures”….where are the shovels??
Hey true blue-ever been in the service? Ever been in Chicago?
Posted by: Nephron | Sep 5, 2010 2:38:07 PM
No, and yes. Relevance?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Mary,
Salon is hardly obscure.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
True Blue, It is the JOB of the media to dig for truth.
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We agree. I’d prefer they dig on more pressing topics– as I said, I see your beef as being more appropriately directed to the law school. They deem the use professor as accurate.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
“Don’t accuse me of talking nonsense. ”
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I believe that’s up to me.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Posted by: smartlillena | Sep 5, 2010 2:48:27 PM
Please do some research. Juris Doctor is a professional doctorate in law similar to other professional doctorates (M.D., D.O., D.D.S., etc.).
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
To true blue:
- Why is it that Democrats nationwide aren’t running on the “accomplishments” you listed (Obamacare, financial reform, etc.)? Because these “accomplishments” are wildly unpopular, that’s why. What progressives fail to realize is their ideas of progress seldom align with that of the majority of Americans. Ditto for their definition of “reform”.
- Paging Russ Feingold, paging Russ Feingold, the President is in your state and would like a photo op!
- “Salon”, outside of the political class, most certainly is obscure. Then again I wouldn’t expect an elitist to grasp that simple idea.
- Democrats in DC fell victim to the old adage of, “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Their super-majority in the Senate went to their collective heads and the American public didn’t like what they saw. I really don’t think it’s all that complicated.
Steve, your post is correct..but the question still remains..Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer? The answer is… he was a senior lecturer. During a campaign speech he called himself a constitutional law professor and Hillary cried foul. The press pulled out their happy meal-super sleuth-plastic magnifying glasses and examined the evidence..concluding that what the University said to back up their guy was good enough for them..the school “regarded” him as a professor- case closed!
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 4:55:37 PM
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Steve, your post is correct..but the question still remains..Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
Posted by: cindy | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:20 PM
“Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”
Problems with comprehension cindy?
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Steve, no need to be rude. My daughter will graduate with her MD this Spring.. giving lectures will not make her a professor…no matter who “regards” her as one. This really isn’t about Obama for me, it’s about a press corps that has not only abdicated it’s role as watch dog for the people, but has gone out of its way to promote their own agenda. We are living in times that demand honesty and integrity from the media..and we don’t have it.
Problems with comprehension
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No problems here. Like other guest lecturers Obama was similar to a professor.
Due to Obama’s unspoken priorities the Dems’ majorities in Congress have been destroyed. Due to Obama the Congressional calander won’t be controlled by Dems.
Any problems comprehending that, buddy?
And if a high demand career (a career vacationer?) is the only thing standing in the way of a prestigious teaching career that won’t be a problem in 2012.
Steve:”These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.” …
Uh, sure. Whatever you say. Tell me, how is Obamacare polling? And what about that “financial reform” you speak of? What exactly happened there? Are Fannie and Freddie out of the derivatives business? Are we any closer to reinstituting Glass-Steagall? Please enlighten me on the wonderous “reforms” that have made us oh-so-much safer from ourselves.
Here’s one more free tip. When the vast majority of voters hear the phrase “government INVESTMENT in rail, green tech, blah blah blah”, they cringe. The government doesn’t invest, it subsidizes. That dog won’t hunt, but keep spreading the word on the benevolent “investments” our broke federal government is making on our behalf. It’s a real vote winner.
Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
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At the University of Chicago, senior lecturers are considered/called professors. That’s the answer. It is upsetting to you, but that is the correct answer, and anybody may go to University of Chicago Law School’s web site and look it up.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
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At the University of Chicago, senior lecturers are considered/called professors. That’s the answer. It is upsetting to you, but that is the correct answer, and anybody may go to University of Chicago Law School’s web site and look it up.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“Not a single Democrat has run an ad in support of the health care bill since April,”
- Jim VandeHei of Politico today on Face the Nation. That’s some “moderate” health care reform you got there, Democrats. Well done.
When the vast majority of voters hear the phrase “government INVESTMENT in rail, green tech, blah blah blah”, they cringe.
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Mary, while you were giving Steve the “free tip”, the truth is that you don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. You say “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” yet unwittingly you demonstrate a misunderstanding of our government and constitution and checks and balances, and, worse, often advocate for absolute power to corporations.
Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
I think so on the ideological brainwashing. Problem is, it works. I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind. I’ve said this before, but I was really taken with the way the South took up their Cause. It reminds me so much of the right wing today. They’re protecting their way of life, and advocating for States rights, slavery and cotton in much the same way… though now slavery would be wage slavery, inequality, xenophobia and ethnic scapegoating, and cotton would be Big Oil.
They can’t grasp anything as straightforward as election promises made and kept.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
I think so on the ideological brainwashing. Problem is, it works. I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind. I’ve said this before, but I was really taken with the way the South took up their Cause. It reminds me so much of the right wing today. They’re protecting their way of life, and advocating for States rights, slavery and cotton in much the same way… though now slavery would be wage slavery, inequality, xenophobia and ethnic scapegoating, and cotton would be Big Oil.
They can’t grasp anything as straightforward as election promises made and kept.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
true blue:”Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
I can’t help but be reminded of the famous Pauline Kael line after Nixon won, “I can’t see how he won, I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon.” That’s what life in the ivory tower will do to people.
Again, ignore the masses at your own peril. That’s what the Republicans did in Bush’s second term and look where it got them. I can’t believe the Democrats are doing the same thing just a few short years later. As Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to any organized party, I’m a Democrat.”
true blue:”Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
I can’t help but be reminded of the famous Pauline Kael line after Nixon won, “I can’t see how he won, I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon.” That’s what life in the ivory tower will do to people.
Again, ignore the masses at your own peril. That’s what the Republicans did in Bush’s second term and look where it got them. I can’t believe the Democrats are doing the same thing just a few short years later. As Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to any organized party, I’m a Democrat.”
It’s the economy stupid!!!!!
Posted by: Parallex View | Sep 5, 2010 9:32:38 PM
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Shhhh!!! Don’t give it away! As long as we keep the truly enlightened distracted with philosophical discussions about the Southern Strategy and Gone With the Wind this election will be a drubbing of historic proportions.
true blue:”I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind.”
I just finished rereading “The Pickwick Papers”, “The Sun Also Rises” and “A Farewell To Arms”. Conclusion: Dickens was a genious. Hemmingway was overrated.
true blue “Mary (meaning me, Woody), while you were giving Steve the “free tip”, the truth is that you don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. You say “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” yet unwittingly you demonstrate a misunderstanding of our government and constitution and checks and balances, and, worse, often advocate for absolute power to corporations.
No, I don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. They speak for themselves and by all indications will speak loudly on Nov. 2.
I understand our system of government very well, thank you. I understand we’re a constitutional republic. I understand the original number of votes for a cloture vote was 67, not 60, because the founders understood the need for the Senate to work together, not hold closed door sessions to craft one-sided legislation. They knew absolute power corrupts absolutely and created safeguards against tyranny. And please, and straight out of an Ivy League campus, anti-corporatist rants are so threadbare. Save them for the rallies.
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
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But the helicopters won’t be circling Mary’s hood?
Hmmmm… hypocrisy in the evening… smells like a Republican gathering.
Methinks there’s more than one progressive-liberal-democrat that reads the so-called “elitist” blog Salon as well.
But thanks for stepping up, and making my point for me. Much appreciate it.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
No, I don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. They speak for themselves…
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Correct, so stop speaking for them.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Conclusion: Dickens was a genious. Hemmingway was overrated.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 9:52:22 PM
And the relevance to politics today from your point of view? Anything in 50 words or less?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
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I had a good chuckle when I read this one.
Of course this is all unverifiable, but would you believe I voted for Mondale? And Dukakis? And Perot? Well, it’s all true. But somewhere along the line I became politically aware instead of blindly pulling the master lever like my daddy done. I graduated from high school with my good name, an acceptance letter to State U. and about $300 dollars in my savings account and as the years passed I had some sort of epiphany. I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college. Someone who was a “victim” of Reagan’s Social Security reform but still found a way out of poverty to prosperity. Brainwashing? That’s what happens to those willing, maleable balls of clay who haven’t learned the hard way.
As long as we keep the truly enlightened distracted with philosophical discussions about the Southern Strategy and Gone With the Wind this election will be a drubbing of historic proportions.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 9:46:26 PM
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
And the relevance to politics today from your point of view? Anything in 50 words or less?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:28:00 PM
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I highly recommend reading the election scene in “The Pickwick Papers”. Little has changed.
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:25:02 PM
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So, no comments on the Senate’s closed-door legislative style over the last 18 months? No comments on the fact that no Democrat in the entire country has used Health Care Reform in their political advertising since April? Just more crazy Mary talk? Very strange. I would have thought a proud liberal like yourself would be standing strong with Reid and company.
This election could be as bad as 1974 in terms of gains in the House, and we all know what happened then. What on Earth could be happening now to repeat such a dramatic turn in public opinion?
“I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college. ”
Why would liberals despise you? I never laughed so hard about a blog comment whine in my life. How does your life story make you different than most Democrats or most people in the working or middle or lower class? Why would you deserve special treatment?
What you deserve is the same thing anyone deserves– a fair shot, equal opportunity when it comes to employment and education, the right to vote, freedom of speech, a fair wage, etc.– see the Bill of rights (or is that too obscure for you?)– and it sounds like you got all that.
If you’re a woman or African American, you didn’t get the right to vote from conservatives preserving the tradition of excluding others.
And none of it means you’re less likely to be brainwashed by a Cause now. It happens to a lot of people.
Talk about threadbare and elitist b.s. (granted its the reverse snobbery typical of so -called modern “conservatives”)
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:32:44 PM
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Distractions, check.
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:32:44 PM
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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Lincoln was a Republican, right?
Distractions, check.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 10:48:29 PM
How is it a distraction? An alleged drubbing of so-called historic proportions, says you, and then what, asks me. Or is the victory, no matter who wins and what they do next, all that matters to you? Just a check mark in the W column. And after that, big whoop.
You seem to put a lot of weight on what Americans want. So, if we look at a recent Newsweek poll, and polling on jobs aid, small business aid, and extension of unemployment benefits, there is support for stimulus:
Newsweek: Which one of the following do you think should have the higher priority for policy-makers in Washington right now:
37% Reducing the federal budget deficit
57% Federal spending to create jobs
6% Don’t know
According to a recent CNN poll, 81 percent of the public rates the county’s economic conditions as poor, and more Americans blame the Republicans than the Democrats,(44 % blaming the Republicans; 35 % blame Democrats.) According to CNN Polling Director Keating Holland, when George W. Bush’s name is added to the mix, the number who blame the Republicans rises to 53 percent, with just a third saying that Barack Obama and his party are at fault.
Remember how the Tea Party turned on Scott Brown very quickly?
Its fair to ask, then what. Nobody has any idea what the Republican agenda is, and they seem to prefer that way. But if there’s a drubbing at some point, the public is going to get wind of what it is, and they’ll weigh in on whether they like it.
I think it’ll blow up in their faces.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What you deserve is the same thing anyone deserves– a fair shot, equal opportunity when it comes to employment and education, the right to vote, freedom of speech, a fair wage, etc.– see the Bill of rights (or is that too obscure for you?)– and it sounds like you got all that.
Yes, equal opportunity. Not equal results or a “fair wage”. I don’t recall either of those in the Bill of Rights yet those two canards are at the center of progressive ideology. I get paid what the market will bare, not what someone deems as “fair”.
How does my life experience make me different from most Democrats? Are you serious? MOST Democrats? It couldn’t be more different. How many conservative Democrats do you know? A generation ago there was such an animal, the Kennedy/Catholic Democrats. There is no room for them now. As that demon Ronald Reagan said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat party, they left me.”
Lincoln was a Republican, right?
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 10:49:57 PM
Yes. You should read that Salon article you snubbed.
Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil) Unaware of history? Demographics? Blue state versus red state? What happened to the parties post-Civil Rights Act? Look up the history of the parties and the realignment when the south and the evangelicals went Republican– and why.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
true blue:”You seem to put a lot of weight on what Americans want. So, if we look at a recent Newsweek poll, …”
Look, I’m not going to get in a polling war with you. Clearly you cherry-picked two of the most left-leaning organizations out there, Newsweek and CNN. I prefer RCP aggregates where you can drill down to specific questioning and verbiage.
Of course what the winning party does is important (see Obama and massive Dem majority). If they screw it up, the people will respond. It’s the degree of the response that’s significant. Every midterm election is tough on the party in power, we all know that. A victory of historic proportions would be a crystal clear signal that Obama needs to enact a Clinton-like move to the center but I don’t think has it in him. Clinton was a populist and master politician. Obama is not either of those.
Are you serious?
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totally serious. You say, “I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college.”
That describes a lot of people, myself included. That describes a lot of Democrats, myself included. That describes a lot of Obamabots, myself included. You seem to think that makes you special, or despicable– its hard to tell which. If people despise you, its probably for other reasons. If they despise your rhetoric, lies or mythology, then be honest and say that’s what is despised. i mean, c’mon. You’re feeling sorry for yourself and making ridiculous comments.
The Democrat tent is much bigger than the Republican tent and has been for quite some time. Ask Specter. Ask Bob Casey.
But the South and Evangelicals did go Republican and change the party. That’s true– and it happened post-Kennedy. If that’s your calling, that’s your calling. But man or woman up and don’t blame it on the party. You flipped when the confederates flipped, right?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
true blue:”Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil)”
Do you really believe that? Apparently you do. If this is the Democrat election strategy I say turn up the volume.
BTW, another free tip. The whole Big Oil term is another black helicopter phrase. It’s equivalent to me saying the Big Green movement is nothing more than former Communists and academics trying to implement Socialism on a global scale. Sounds kinda nutty.
Look, I’m not going to get in a polling war with you.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
That describes a lot of people, myself included. That describes a lot of Democrats, myself included. That describes a lot of Obamabots, myself included.
No, it doesn’t describe a lot of Democrats. Or Republicans for that matter, but certainly not a lot of Democrats or Obamabots.
P.S. I “flipped” as a result of my very own personal life experiences, like when I started paying my own mortgage in my mid 20′s, questioning the role of government, asking where my tax dollars are going, wondering why my local schools were never quite as good as the Catholic ones yet knowing first had the teachers at the Catholic schools earned less money, all that good stuff. I guess you could say it was during the course of becoming a man, as you aluded to. When does politics become personal? It depends on the individual. To suggest I “flipped” because of national politics is laughable.
But then again this isn’t about you or me. You ask “What then?” after the coming election. Who knows, but at least we’ll be able to catch our breath for a moment and try to figure out the best way to undo the damage.
It’s been a pleasure reading your posts. It’s always good to get a peek inside the mind of a true believer. I really appreciate it.
Posted by: Woody | September 6, 2010, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Woody: It’s equivalent to me saying the Big Green movement is nothing more than former Communists and academics trying to implement Socialism on a global scale. Sounds kinda nutty.
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funny thing is you’ve probably said just about that, haven’t you? I seem to recall you were quite the denialist, and happened to quote a lot of Koch funded talking points.
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true blue:”Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil)”
Woody: Do you really believe that? Apparently you do. If this is the Democrat election strategy I say turn up the volume.
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Yes I think the tea party/conservative movement shares much in common with the confederate movement, and that Lincoln would be turned out of the party as a northern liberal RINO nowadays. (States Rights!)
No, its not dem election strategy. I’m a democrat by default, I’m an Obamabot by default– because the other options stunk/stink/atank more.I get a little sick of elected Dems being afraid to call a spade a spade when it comes to the nut jobs that Republicans are mainstreaming. I’m NOT afraid to. republicans and conservatives (and centrists) and the people they voted for started an unnecessary war based on either lies or shady/faulty intelligence, instituted and defended torture, trampled all over our civil liberties– and brag about it. Never mind the growing inequality and poverty they’ve created.
Posted by: true blue | September 6, 2010, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Continuing from my last post,
the right wing conveniently forgets that when former President Bush left office, jobs in America — after two terms of dismal job creation(the worst eight-year record since 1927-35)–were dropping at an alarming rate of 700,000 to 800,000 jobs per month. From January 2008 through January 2009, the U.S. economy lost 3.5 million jobs; 3.65 million private sector jobs offset slightly by 148,000 jobs created by federal, state and local governments.
They try to blame the recession and unemployment on the Dems– painting them as old school tax and spend liberals, socialists, communists–ignoring the dismal record of the Republicans in Congress and the plethora of articles written about the loss of manufacturing jobs due to Bush policy during the years Republicans held control of Congress.
And to everyone’s astonishment, they suddenly care about the deficit for the first time in a good eight years, but really longer if you look at their records under Papa Bush and Reagan, despite it being the wrong time to worry about that and pretend they’re not “government” with a leadership role to play on the brink of economic crisis (It is funny to hear establishment politicians rail against the establishment. What’s not funny is that dupes buy into it. Sheesh!)
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 5:14 am 5:14 am
Just to finish up here,
Fortunately, the left wing believes in
American productivity and the American worker, and believes in working themselves, so the Dems say, you know what, rather than blaming American workers for the consequences of bankrupt Republican policies and ideology, if the private sector can’t meet the demand for jobs, we can and will because we have roads and bridges to fix, rail to expand, new energy sources to develop, health IT to implement, schools to build and renovate, scientific research to conduct, etc.
The right wing says heck no, and votes AGAINST small business aid, extension of unemployment benefits, stimulus, aid to states to protect firefighter, teacher and police officer jobs, green energy jobs, and middle class tax cuts, demagoguing and fear mongering and scapegoating all the while. (But when they can they take credit for the stimulus funds that go to their states, districts and constituencies, including those dedicated to job fairs. hypocrites.)
That’s not all, of course. The right wing makes kooky claims about how small businesses don’t need credit, and yet Todd McCracken, the president of the National Small Business Association on Sunday morning has endorsed the small business aid bill, noting the importance of the credit lines it will open up.
You see, it comes down to this: either you believe in the American worker and small business owner and their work ethic and productivity and think that it is more important to provide a decent life for everyone , or you think it is more important to preserve the rights and capital of people who own property and the economic elites. Either you understand Paine’s point that the concept of private ownership arose as necessary due to the development of agriculture but that the basic needs of all humanity must be provided for by those with property, who have originally taken it from the general public, and that is provided via equal opportunity to work and make a fair wage, or you do not.
Many progressives, liberals, left wingers and/or democrats are dedicated to the ends– job creation, a decent life for everyone, fair wages, equal opportunity– and if there was any evidence that Republican policies and ideology were the means to those ends, or would help solve our problems, we’d go for it. But the evidence isn’t there.
Meanwhile the right wing is dedicated to its faith in first principles, regardless of potentially cruel outcomes. They blame those who fall on hard times for their circumstances, unless the one who happens to fall upon hard times is them. Then they blame some “other.”
In regards to progressive ideology in general, its amazing the amount of misinformation people put out there.
Its simply not true that progressives represent for equal outcomes without equal inputs as part of their ideology.
Progressivism advocates for the interests of ordinary, everyday people in their roles as taxpayers, consumers, employees and citizens, championing government “of the people, by the people, for the people.” Progressivism advocates for reform, change, progress and continual improvement in terms of the advancement of humanity, typically in opposition to reactionaries and in contrast to “conservatives” who advocate for conserving, preserving and maintaining traditional institutions, and hierarchies of power benefiting the economically elite who exploit their advantages politically.
Have you ever visited coal mines in West Virginia? Beginning in the late 1880s, thousands of immigrants went to West virginia to work for coal mining companies. They were required to lease their equipment and rent company housing; the fees were deducted from their pay. Coal companies even made up their own monetary systems, paying their employees with company money, which forced them to shop only at company stores. The stores themselves charged over-inflated prices, since there was no alternative for purchasing goods.Miners were also denied proper pay and a fair wage through cribbing. Bottom line: The working conditions wer unsafe, and the pay wasn’t fair. Eventually this led to attempts to unionize and the West Virginia mine wars. Mary Harris “Mother” Jones– a progressive labor and community organizer was there. Her motto was “pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living.” she also once said,
“Often while sewing for the lords and barons who lived in magnificent houses on the Lake Shore Drive, I would look out of the plate glass windows and see the poor, shivering wretches, jobless and hungry, walking alongside the frozen lake front. The contrast of their condition with that of the tropical comfort of the people for whom I sewed was painful to me.”
That’s what being progressive is all about. Doing something about that. Not preserving the system that makes it increasingly difficult for those folks to lead a decent life, to take advantage of an equal opportunity for work and a fair wage.
Happy Labor Day.
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 5:17 am 5:17 am
Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
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The only thing wierd is this break from reality. Voters aren’t liking what they see coming out of the Dems. They (voters) are madder than hell. They’re getting madder everyday. Their numbers are growing everyday. That is reality.
Pigs get fat, hogs go to slaughter.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 6, 2010, 6:00 am 6:00 am
Do you see something happening that actually matters when it comes to the economy
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Just maybe. Maybe a little confidence that Barak Obama won’t have free rein to stick a knife in the backs of industries he thinks are evil.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 6, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am
Where is Feingold?
Posted by: Nephron | September 6, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am
The national debt is a crisis that is not getting media attention. Recovery schemes require money and with41 cents on the dollar being borrowed, any spending deepens the pit.
PayGo has been a failure as Congress keeps designating spending increases as “emergencies” to get around the rule. This is every bit as devious as underpricing Obamacare and calling it the Rx for the deficit to get around the “sunset rule”. Most Americans have failed to do the research and don’t realize that almost two trillion dollars of spending is exempt from PayGo.
It is time to stop talking about deficit reduction and get serious about deficit elimination and paying down the national debt. If we were to apply credit card minimum payment rules to the debt the payment for 2010 would be $520 billion. With zero deficits and half-trillion per year payments it would take 50+ years to amortize the current debt. But the Obama/Pelosi/Reid triad continue to spend and the CBO projects that by 2020 the payment just to service the interest on the debt will be a required $900 billion. I suspect that with its more recent and more accurate re-scoring of Obamacare costs the real number to service the debt will be over one trillion by 2020.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 6, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
It is almost funny to see the horror and distain and sadness in the faces of the media people when they have to report bad news about their GOD Obama. It is like watching a soap opera were the villain is dying but everyone is sure he is the hero until they read the letter of his confessions and they all feel used and betrayed and can not bring themselves to accept they were such complete morons.
Posted by: Wade Johnson | September 6, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
The national debt is a crisis that is not getting media attention.
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Its getting much more attention than it warrants. Don’t be insane.
Americans know a much bigger priority– the number one concern–is jobs.
Work.
And Democrats believe in the American worker and work ethic.
Unlike Republicans, they know the problem right now isn’t that the American worker is spoiled as lazy as the new styled Republicans suggest (check out what Sharron Angle has said)
The problem is the lack of work.
And , if the private sector can’t meet the demand for jobs, Democrats understand that the government has a role and that role is to lead– to note that the government can and should create jobs because we have roads and bridges to fix, rail to expand, new energy sources to develop, health IT to implement, schools to build and renovate, scientific research to conduct, etc.
Let’s start by supporting small business. The right wing makes kooky claims about how small businesses don’t need credit, and yet Todd McCracken, the president of the National Small Business Association on Sunday morning has endorsed the small business aid bill, noting the importance of the credit lines it will open up.
Pass the bill.
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Unions are the new opressor, thugs and intimidators abound, ACLU can you shield me from the shackles of forced unionization?
Pass the bill.
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There aren’t the votes in the current congress to pass Obama’s latest pipe dream (the bill). If such a bill were hashed out and on paper right now voters wouldn’t believe a word of it. Obama isn’t trustworthy. The Dem leadership isn’t trustworthy. Voters know it.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 7, 2010, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Posted by: smartlillena |
Voters don’t trust Republicans either. That’s the thing. They are sick of everybody. Republicans will benefit during the midterms, as they were always going to, but that won’t translate into “change” — Republicans haven’t changed. And Boehner is the most establishment dude of them all.
Irony, that.
The only good thing that could come out of it is longer term in regards to the parties. Additional choices, perhaps.
As a writer, its all good for me– tormented artist stuff. But I do worry about the country, American workers and small business owners, those who are vulnerable and actually are in need right now.
Keep pushing work, job creation, science, infrastructure, alternate energy, Mr. President– as well as middle class tax cuts, small business aid, research and innovation. If the Congress won’t pass it, you’ll still know you did the right thing.
Posted by: Cara | September 7, 2010, 11:16 am 11:16 am
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Santorum: Money Will Not Defeat Obama, Ideas Will 
Rick Santorum's Full Speech at CPAC 2012
Young people, check. African Americans, check. Hell men in general, check.
Seems like the only base Obama has not left behind left are rabid, pro government quasi racists…
A TRUE sign the apocalypse is upon us… Jesse Jackson’s Cadilac Escalade just got stripped and was abandoned…
It’s even hard out there for a poverty pimp under Obama…
Posted by: CBA | September 4, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Over? When did it begin?
Posted by: Hmmm... | September 4, 2010, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Um….Let’s remember sparky – the republicans can’t block anything….Dem’s control the House and the Senate.
Really getting tired of the little goof-in-chief blaming others for his screw-ups.
November is going to be a bloodbath!
Posted by: Tim_CA | September 4, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Where do we go to recover from Recovery Summer?
Posted by: SukieTawdry | September 4, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Okay, Obama sinks to a 42% approaval rating today — normally a banner news item — yet ABC doesn’t report it at all. If this had been a GOP president, it would be the headline for this entire Labor Day weekend.
Posted by: bartman44 | September 4, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Thank goodness that this “recovery” summer is over. Let us hope that the electorate wakes up in time for the next elections and that this character Obama doesn’t pull something like some of his fellow-travellers’ “leaders” do in other countries when confronted with bad economy, bad polling, or facing elections! Remember Obama has alledged kinship and real travels of support to people like Odinga….
Posted by: Ed | September 4, 2010, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Without the recovery, of course.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 4, 2010, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The floor piece of the Oval Office Makeover has one quote: “The Arc of the Moral Universe Is Long, But It Bends Towards Justice”, attributed to King.
Only problem is that it’s not really King’s quote at all.
It’s Theodore Parker’s.
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Our Greatest Smartest Clueless Leader and self-proclaimed Constitution Prof simply did not know what he thought his moral mentor said. Give him a break. He did not know who Rev. Wright was sitting in his church for 20 years. Why would you expect he knows anything about King?!
Posted by: duh | September 4, 2010, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
What the hell you are talking about there is no recovery?
The stock market finally climbed back to the black territory before Labor Day. Seems to me a Great Summer Recovery!!!
Ha… You suckers.
Posted by: MbA | September 4, 2010, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Gee, I thought Recovery Summer was scheduled to start in November after the elections.
Posted by: Noz | September 4, 2010, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Now that the Summer of Recovery is over, get ready for the Fall of Obama.
Posted by: Sigmonde | September 4, 2010, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Perhaps the American people are in recovery, after all, if the polls are telling us anything about how they feel.
Posted by: tanarg | September 4, 2010, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I meant recovery from their delusion that Obama was a competent executive, in case there’s any doubt.
Posted by: tanarg | September 4, 2010, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
A poem for Mr. Obama -
Wisdom comes only from wisdom.
A weak flower must not pretend to bloom.
Strength comes only from strength.
A tree must not blame the rain, the wind or then sun.
Wisdom comes only from wisdom.
Lying comes only from a lying man.
Posted by: young_voter | September 4, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
The best hope for Obama is a Republican Congress. Right now he is without excuse. His policies are a failure & there is no one to blame. The “blame Bush” argument is old and becoming laughable.
Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2010, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
It’s hard to figure which way this man is going to jump once the House and Senate are controlled by Republicans. He doesn’t have enough class to take it like an adult.
A 42% approval rating… I wonder what the real number is ? I told the pollster who called me around 7:30 PM one evening last week to get lost.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 7:43 am 7:43 am
As fed up as Americans are with the government, we must also demand more truth and accountability from the press. I was on another news website yesterday and there was a “let’s see how smart you are” style multiple choice quiz. One of the questions was -”Who was a law professor at the University of Chicago?” The answer was..of course..Obama, except that the truth is he was never a professor but a senior lecturer. Splitting hairs?..to some..but to most of us who rely on the media to deliver accuracy, not activism, it’s just another example of the manipulation of the masses…and as long as ABC posts articles titled “communities get first look at foreclosures” to describe the latest taxpayer funded government assault on the free market, well they are part of the problem too.
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 8:39 am 8:39 am
manipulation of the masses
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Obama got himself elected by not telling the folks what he had in mind to do to this country. His more “vigilant” supporters don’t care about that and never will. Most people do care about it and it’s now getting him unelected. I just hope he gets everything he’s got coming to him in November.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Charles Stanley-Turning The Tide (still available for viewing on YouTube) is a July 4th message against our nation’s turn toward socialism that should be viewed by every citizen regardless of political or religious persuasion.
Dr. Stanley does not tell us who to vote for but clearly nails our fall into the pit.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 5, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“We need individuals who think and do what’s right for you. You’ve got to have people who think, not ideologues. Republicans are utterly impervious to evidence.” –Bill Clinton
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Posted by: cindy |
While I do think its important to fact check the media, in this instance, it may be the University of Chicago Law School that is confusing the matter:
“Statement Regarding Barack Obama
The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as “Senior Lecturer.”
From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”
–The University of Chicago Law School, under Media Inquiries
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am
“Right now, there is no coherent philosophy leading the GOP establishment other than anti-Obamaism. And while that may be an effective organizing theme for a political party whose ‘War Room’ mentality has dominated it for the past ten years, it is hardly a governing set of principles.
“Assuming November goes as expected,the GOP will shortly thereafter descend into a brawl that will resemble the bar scene from ‘Star Wars’. One side will claim the election is a vindication of Bush’s big government conservatism while another side, the Reaganites, allied with the Tea Party movement, will more astutely see the results as a repudiation of both Bush’s and Obama’s embrace of big government.”
—Craig Shirley, party activist
(He leaves out the third side– the complete nut jobs who DeMint will lead.)
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I wonder what the real number is ?
—I wonder what the real numbers are all around. Al Giordano’s primer on the 2010 US House and Senate Elections makes good points. (see, too, “Republicans In Disarray: Losing Candidates Increasingly Unwilling To Unite Behind GOP Nominees”)
Will the farce play out? I guess we’ll see.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors
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A high school football coach can be more closely defined as a teacher than Obama can be defined a professor. They teach health and sometimes driver education.
You can play all the word games you want, Obama’s claim of being a professor is as phony as everything else about him has turned out to be. That’s why his ### is being handed back to him in a hat.
Is that any better?
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Posted by: smartlillena |
In many school districts a h.s. football coach has to be a teacher, or certified to teach–and hence, would rightly be called a teacher– so what’s your point?
High school football coaches are teachers and at Univ of Chgo, senior lecturers are professors, and from there….????
Whatever it is, its not well laid out.
I’ll stick with the university of chicago’s statement.
As you say, his claim is accurate in keeping with the law school’s policy– and its as phony (not) as everything else (meaning none of it is “phony” except in the minds of those who hate him and are determined to project their own worse characteristics onto him)
The law school statement is clear, concise and coherent.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
true blue
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I’m starting to think there is no turning it around for this man. Like you say, the Republicans are ate with idiots and they’re still cleaning this man’s plow. Maybe he’ll just resign.
ROFLMFAO (but it’s not funny)
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Maybe he’ll just resign.
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He’s not Palin.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
they’re still cleaning this man’s plow
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He’s taking (what’s left of) the DNC right along with him. It’s almost painful to watch but y’all hang in there.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
He’s not Palin.
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No. She’s one of the idiots I was talking about. With people like that running around Obama shouldn’t be having any problems. Odd.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
With people like that running around Obama shouldn’t be having any problems.
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With what? Polls? The media he’s receiving? To be frank, I’m surprised he’s not doing worse given how unpopular DC is since the Bush-Cheney years, the economy and unemployment, two wars, etc. and how spoiled and impatient Americans are. If you haven’t noticed we have a tendency to put someone on a ridiculously high pedestal and then knock them off and laugh. Its kinda gross in a Roman colliseum kind of way– sport.
But human nature will be human nature.
Look how many ups and downs Hillary Clinton has experienced. Or others. Can’t be thin-skinned when you enter the arena.
Or are you talking about how much trouble he had passing moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq… imho, so far, so good on all of that, in keeping with his more centrist leanings. I would have preferred different legislation, but I knew where Obama stood when I voted for him, and he was the best choice.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
true blue, it is obvious that you have never attended a law school or professional school. Obama was never a law professor-period. It is an academic rank that he never attained.He doesn’t even have an active law license-how many other Illinois congressmen have the same license status?No he is not Palin-she was never carried by affirmative action policies nor by politically correct law school teachers and administrators.Why did Harvard change the Law Review president selection process the year Obama was “elected”?He is a phony-as is becoming all to apparent daily.
Posted by: Nephron | September 5, 2010, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
true blue, he didn’t pass anything. The overwhelmingly Democrat Congress of Pelosi and Reid passed it FOR him,for which they will be deservedly punished in November.By December Obama will be a lame duck-he doesn’t have the skills to handle a position were his supporters are not running the show.Affirmative action will carry him no further.
Posted by: Nephron | September 5, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
it is obvious that you have never attended a law school or professional school. Obama was never a law professor-period.
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Is it? Regardless, its obvious you never have either, and certainly not in Chicago.
There’s a lot more that is obvious as well.
With your screen name, you’d think you’d do a better job of not putting forth unfiltered waste.
As for the rest, refer back to what I said about the minds of those who hate him and are determined to project their own worse characteristics onto him. Bet it fits, though only you would know.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
true blue, he didn’t pass anything…
Pelosi and Reid passed it FOR him,for which they will be deservedly punished in November
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Nephron, are you under the mistaken impression he didn’t want that legislation passed?
As for punishment, you do sound like an authoritarian, framing it that way.
To be frank, I’m surprised the Dems in Congress and Obama are not doing worse given the economy and unemployment, two wars, how unpopular DC is since the Bush-Cheney years, and, mostly, how spoiled and impatient and allegedly “conservative” Americans are.
The right rarely elects anyone who does what they claim they want. They’re an odd bunch. What they have going for them is that its clear lies, fearmongering and dumbed down sound bites work in the good ole US of A.
Plus, in America, we have a tendency to put someone on a ridiculously high pedestal and then knock them off and laugh. Its kinda gross in a Roman colliseum kind of way. And we ridicule women in politics– like Pelosi. There was quite a hit piece on Palin as well, which focused more on her push-up bra than the actual problems with her demagoguing.
But human nature will be human nature.
I’m not sure what you all think it proves.
Personally, my loyalty lies with America and its continuity. I go with the bigger tent that actually accomplishes things that benefit the country– messy as those accomplishments may be. Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“my loyalty lies with America”-easy to say. Ever join the Service?And actually the White House was ready to back off the health bill until Pelosi was able to ram it through-of course,the Democrats that switched their votes are history-starting with Stupak.And frankly I have spent more time on the Dan Ryan Parking Lot than I care to admit.Ever been on 41?
Posted by: Nephron | September 5, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
True blue, regarding “professor” Obama….simply because someone is performing the job of a professor doesn’t make him one..I’m thinking of all the TAs in college putting in all those hours teaching their professors’ classes, grading the papers, writing the lectures, performing the research, holding office hours.. they are still not professors. I’m just a stickler for accuracy, truth, and unbiased reporting..The University of Chicago can tell me all day long he was just “like” a professor, regarded as a professor, called professor, paid as much as a professor(?), asked if he wanted to be a professor, dressed like a professor, smoked like a professor, maybe even taught better than a professor..whatever ..the stubborn fact remains he wasn’t a professor….Titles and paperwork supporting those titles do matter..if Obama himself didn’t believe it, why did he bother marrying Michelle? Couldn’t he convince her that simply performing the duties of a wife and being thought of as wife was good enough?
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
With what? Polls? The media he’s receiving?
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You won’t give up, will you? He’s giving himself these ratings. You can feel ABC’s pain over the story they’re running right now. We’re still waiting dems to start bragging on that HC disaster in their campaigns. That’s what the bleeding is all about- Obama putting his unspoken agenda ahead of the folks in this country and the Dem’s who were ignorant enough to march right along. 2010 is about Barak Obama and nothing else. Let’s see how well he takes the message. Forgive me if I sound a bit angry. I am.
BTW, Steve Rattner’s just written a book about his days in the Obama Admin, just in time for November. They (obama) didn’t make him sign a nondisclosure pledge? (that info comes from huffingtonpost)
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
true blue: “Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.”
Progressive Mama said the same thing about her grandmother. Weird.
Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
The law school statement is clear, concise and coherent.
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And it doesn’t use the term PhD once. Does Obama have a PhD?
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Its been years since the Republicans actually stood for anything noble or responsible. Its not my grandmother’s party, that’s for sure.”
Progressive Mama said the same thing about her grandmother. Weird.
Posted by: Mary | Sep 5, 2010 2:18:51 PM
I don’t know that it is that weird. Its true of anyone with a grandmother or great grandmother who voted Republican back in the 40s and 50s, and even the 60s and 70s. If you look at the Republican party, they used to represent more liberal ideals– a lot of northern liberals were Republicans, and the southern conservatives and racists were Democrats.
Do you read Salon? Steve Kornacki posted an article called “The GOP’s new fake racial history: A Southern Republican with designs on challenging Barack Obama in 2012 offers a phony version of history” :
“the Republicans’ domination of the South today is a direct result of the party’s rejection of civil rights in ’64 (and Nixon’s Southern Strategy, which called for coded appeals and behind-the-scenes assistance to Southern bigots).”
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
You won’t give up, will you?
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Give up on what?
The country?
No. I agree with Bill Clinton:
“We need individuals who think and do what’s right for you. You’ve got to have people who think, not ideologues. Republicans are utterly impervious to evidence.” –Bill Clinton
Its obvious you’re angry, but it would be more interesting if you had a point other than “I’m mad and I’m going to take it out on you by talking nonsense and making as much sense as Angle or Brewer and slamming Obama because he doesn’t take my crazy self seriously and is more concerned about the country, not crazy public perception.”
I don’t think Republicans winning or not winning will mean all that much beyond gridlock and wasted resources put toward b.s. driven investigations.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Hey true blue-ever been in the service? Ever been in Chicago?
Posted by: Nephron | September 5, 2010, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Posted by: cindy |
Cindy, the point I was making to you is that you’re blaming the media, when the statement I referred to i@ 11:11:06 AM is what the media gets what they enquire. The problem lies with how the law school itself defines it, not the media. If you have a problem with that, you should blame the law school in order to ensure you’re laying blame at the right feet. Let them know the way they use the term doesn’t suit you. I’m sure they’ll find it fascinating and consider your self-proclaimed expertise in the future.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
true blue: “I don’t know that it is that weird.”
Progressive Mama also had a habit of redirecting people to liberal/progressive artciles that reinforced her limited worldview. Often by the same authors and published in the same sources, including obscure ones.
Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Don’t accuse me of talking nonsense. Barak Obama is subject to be judged by the people of this country, one way or the other. This election is “the other way”. He should’ve been listening when he had the opportunity. By God, now he has no choice.
Does Obama have a PhD?
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
True Blue, It is the JOB of the media to dig for truth..(If this had been Bush, the press would have rented a backhoe for this, digging away at the U. of Chicago, fully exposing the little misrepresentation about their rising star-or asking him directly..”Dr. Obama, were you a professor at this school?”) BUT the media cast their shovels aside on this story, as they have on many others…including the one on ABC here today about the government providing billions to “local governments” to purchase foreclosed homes from banks before they are made available to the “general public” .. no doubt telling “local governments” who should be eligible to rent/buy these government owned homes-and for how much.. Anyone with nostrils smells something foul here..but ABC titles the article “communities get first look at foreclosures”….where are the shovels??
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Hey true blue-ever been in the service? Ever been in Chicago?
Posted by: Nephron | Sep 5, 2010 2:38:07 PM
No, and yes. Relevance?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Mary,
Salon is hardly obscure.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
True Blue, It is the JOB of the media to dig for truth.
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We agree. I’d prefer they dig on more pressing topics– as I said, I see your beef as being more appropriately directed to the law school. They deem the use professor as accurate.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
“Don’t accuse me of talking nonsense. ”
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I believe that’s up to me.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Posted by: smartlillena | Sep 5, 2010 2:48:27 PM
Please do some research. Juris Doctor is a professional doctorate in law similar to other professional doctorates (M.D., D.O., D.D.S., etc.).
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
To true blue:
- Why is it that Democrats nationwide aren’t running on the “accomplishments” you listed (Obamacare, financial reform, etc.)? Because these “accomplishments” are wildly unpopular, that’s why. What progressives fail to realize is their ideas of progress seldom align with that of the majority of Americans. Ditto for their definition of “reform”.
- Paging Russ Feingold, paging Russ Feingold, the President is in your state and would like a photo op!
- “Salon”, outside of the political class, most certainly is obscure. Then again I wouldn’t expect an elitist to grasp that simple idea.
- Democrats in DC fell victim to the old adage of, “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Their super-majority in the Senate went to their collective heads and the American public didn’t like what they saw. I really don’t think it’s all that complicated.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Steve, your post is correct..but the question still remains..Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer? The answer is… he was a senior lecturer. During a campaign speech he called himself a constitutional law professor and Hillary cried foul. The press pulled out their happy meal-super sleuth-plastic magnifying glasses and examined the evidence..concluding that what the University said to back up their guy was good enough for them..the school “regarded” him as a professor- case closed!
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 4:55:37 PM
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Steve, your post is correct..but the question still remains..Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
Posted by: cindy | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:20 PM
“Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”
Problems with comprehension cindy?
Posted by: Steve | September 5, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Steve, no need to be rude. My daughter will graduate with her MD this Spring.. giving lectures will not make her a professor…no matter who “regards” her as one. This really isn’t about Obama for me, it’s about a press corps that has not only abdicated it’s role as watch dog for the people, but has gone out of its way to promote their own agenda. We are living in times that demand honesty and integrity from the media..and we don’t have it.
Posted by: cindy | September 5, 2010, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Problems with comprehension
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No problems here. Like other guest lecturers Obama was similar to a professor.
Due to Obama’s unspoken priorities the Dems’ majorities in Congress have been destroyed. Due to Obama the Congressional calander won’t be controlled by Dems.
Any problems comprehending that, buddy?
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
And if a high demand career (a career vacationer?) is the only thing standing in the way of a prestigious teaching career that won’t be a problem in 2012.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 5, 2010, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Steve:”These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.” …
Uh, sure. Whatever you say. Tell me, how is Obamacare polling? And what about that “financial reform” you speak of? What exactly happened there? Are Fannie and Freddie out of the derivatives business? Are we any closer to reinstituting Glass-Steagall? Please enlighten me on the wonderous “reforms” that have made us oh-so-much safer from ourselves.
Here’s one more free tip. When the vast majority of voters hear the phrase “government INVESTMENT in rail, green tech, blah blah blah”, they cringe. The government doesn’t invest, it subsidizes. That dog won’t hunt, but keep spreading the word on the benevolent “investments” our broke federal government is making on our behalf. It’s a real vote winner.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
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At the University of Chicago, senior lecturers are considered/called professors. That’s the answer. It is upsetting to you, but that is the correct answer, and anybody may go to University of Chicago Law School’s web site and look it up.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Was Obama a professor of law at the University of Chicago-or a senior lecturer?
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At the University of Chicago, senior lecturers are considered/called professors. That’s the answer. It is upsetting to you, but that is the correct answer, and anybody may go to University of Chicago Law School’s web site and look it up.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“Not a single Democrat has run an ad in support of the health care bill since April,”
- Jim VandeHei of Politico today on Face the Nation. That’s some “moderate” health care reform you got there, Democrats. Well done.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
When the vast majority of voters hear the phrase “government INVESTMENT in rail, green tech, blah blah blah”, they cringe.
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Mary, while you were giving Steve the “free tip”, the truth is that you don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. You say “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” yet unwittingly you demonstrate a misunderstanding of our government and constitution and checks and balances, and, worse, often advocate for absolute power to corporations.
Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
I think so on the ideological brainwashing. Problem is, it works. I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind. I’ve said this before, but I was really taken with the way the South took up their Cause. It reminds me so much of the right wing today. They’re protecting their way of life, and advocating for States rights, slavery and cotton in much the same way… though now slavery would be wage slavery, inequality, xenophobia and ethnic scapegoating, and cotton would be Big Oil.
They can’t grasp anything as straightforward as election promises made and kept.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
“moderate health care reform, financial reform , stimulus, conservation legislation, making investments in science, rail, green tech, education, fair pay, drawing down troops in Iraq…”
These are all election promises made and kept by the Democrats, far from the ‘absolute power corrupts’ nonsense argument you post.
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
I think so on the ideological brainwashing. Problem is, it works. I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind. I’ve said this before, but I was really taken with the way the South took up their Cause. It reminds me so much of the right wing today. They’re protecting their way of life, and advocating for States rights, slavery and cotton in much the same way… though now slavery would be wage slavery, inequality, xenophobia and ethnic scapegoating, and cotton would be Big Oil.
They can’t grasp anything as straightforward as election promises made and kept.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
true blue:”Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
I can’t help but be reminded of the famous Pauline Kael line after Nixon won, “I can’t see how he won, I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon.” That’s what life in the ivory tower will do to people.
Again, ignore the masses at your own peril. That’s what the Republicans did in Bush’s second term and look where it got them. I can’t believe the Democrats are doing the same thing just a few short years later. As Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to any organized party, I’m a Democrat.”
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
true blue:”Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
I can’t help but be reminded of the famous Pauline Kael line after Nixon won, “I can’t see how he won, I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon.” That’s what life in the ivory tower will do to people.
Again, ignore the masses at your own peril. That’s what the Republicans did in Bush’s second term and look where it got them. I can’t believe the Democrats are doing the same thing just a few short years later. As Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to any organized party, I’m a Democrat.”
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
It’s the economy stupid!!!!!
Posted by: Parallex View | Sep 5, 2010 9:32:38 PM
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Shhhh!!! Don’t give it away! As long as we keep the truly enlightened distracted with philosophical discussions about the Southern Strategy and Gone With the Wind this election will be a drubbing of historic proportions.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
true blue:”I just finished rereading Gone with the Wind.”
I just finished rereading “The Pickwick Papers”, “The Sun Also Rises” and “A Farewell To Arms”. Conclusion: Dickens was a genious. Hemmingway was overrated.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
true blue “Mary (meaning me, Woody), while you were giving Steve the “free tip”, the truth is that you don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. You say “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” yet unwittingly you demonstrate a misunderstanding of our government and constitution and checks and balances, and, worse, often advocate for absolute power to corporations.
No, I don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. They speak for themselves and by all indications will speak loudly on Nov. 2.
I understand our system of government very well, thank you. I understand we’re a constitutional republic. I understand the original number of votes for a cloture vote was 67, not 60, because the founders understood the need for the Senate to work together, not hold closed door sessions to craft one-sided legislation. They knew absolute power corrupts absolutely and created safeguards against tyranny. And please, and straight out of an Ivy League campus, anti-corporatist rants are so threadbare. Save them for the rallies.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
I’m not certain but I believe the black helicopters will be circling your neighborhood in T – 10 minutes. I know it’s hard for you to believe there may actually be more than one conservative constitutional originalist out there, but it’s true.
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But the helicopters won’t be circling Mary’s hood?
Hmmmm… hypocrisy in the evening… smells like a Republican gathering.
Methinks there’s more than one progressive-liberal-democrat that reads the so-called “elitist” blog Salon as well.
But thanks for stepping up, and making my point for me. Much appreciate it.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
No, I don’t speak for the vast majority of voters. They speak for themselves…
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Correct, so stop speaking for them.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Conclusion: Dickens was a genious. Hemmingway was overrated.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 9:52:22 PM
And the relevance to politics today from your point of view? Anything in 50 words or less?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Why is it right wingers and Republicans have such a poor grip on integrity and truth? I guess its the ideological brainwashing.
Posted by: Steve | Sep 5, 2010 5:09:59 PM
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I had a good chuckle when I read this one.
Of course this is all unverifiable, but would you believe I voted for Mondale? And Dukakis? And Perot? Well, it’s all true. But somewhere along the line I became politically aware instead of blindly pulling the master lever like my daddy done. I graduated from high school with my good name, an acceptance letter to State U. and about $300 dollars in my savings account and as the years passed I had some sort of epiphany. I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college. Someone who was a “victim” of Reagan’s Social Security reform but still found a way out of poverty to prosperity. Brainwashing? That’s what happens to those willing, maleable balls of clay who haven’t learned the hard way.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
As long as we keep the truly enlightened distracted with philosophical discussions about the Southern Strategy and Gone With the Wind this election will be a drubbing of historic proportions.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 9:46:26 PM
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
And the relevance to politics today from your point of view? Anything in 50 words or less?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:28:00 PM
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I highly recommend reading the election scene in “The Pickwick Papers”. Little has changed.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:25:02 PM
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So, no comments on the Senate’s closed-door legislative style over the last 18 months? No comments on the fact that no Democrat in the entire country has used Health Care Reform in their political advertising since April? Just more crazy Mary talk? Very strange. I would have thought a proud liberal like yourself would be standing strong with Reid and company.
This election could be as bad as 1974 in terms of gains in the House, and we all know what happened then. What on Earth could be happening now to repeat such a dramatic turn in public opinion?
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
“I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college. ”
Why would liberals despise you? I never laughed so hard about a blog comment whine in my life. How does your life story make you different than most Democrats or most people in the working or middle or lower class? Why would you deserve special treatment?
What you deserve is the same thing anyone deserves– a fair shot, equal opportunity when it comes to employment and education, the right to vote, freedom of speech, a fair wage, etc.– see the Bill of rights (or is that too obscure for you?)– and it sounds like you got all that.
If you’re a woman or African American, you didn’t get the right to vote from conservatives preserving the tradition of excluding others.
And none of it means you’re less likely to be brainwashed by a Cause now. It happens to a lot of people.
Talk about threadbare and elitist b.s. (granted its the reverse snobbery typical of so -called modern “conservatives”)
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:32:44 PM
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Distractions, check.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
And then what? Say, the Confederacy wins Chicamauga… or gains a strategic win in the Seven Days Battle, then what?
Posted by: true blue | Sep 5, 2010 10:32:44 PM
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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but Lincoln was a Republican, right?
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Distractions, check.
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 10:48:29 PM
How is it a distraction? An alleged drubbing of so-called historic proportions, says you, and then what, asks me. Or is the victory, no matter who wins and what they do next, all that matters to you? Just a check mark in the W column. And after that, big whoop.
You seem to put a lot of weight on what Americans want. So, if we look at a recent Newsweek poll, and polling on jobs aid, small business aid, and extension of unemployment benefits, there is support for stimulus:
Newsweek: Which one of the following do you think should have the higher priority for policy-makers in Washington right now:
37% Reducing the federal budget deficit
57% Federal spending to create jobs
6% Don’t know
According to a recent CNN poll, 81 percent of the public rates the county’s economic conditions as poor, and more Americans blame the Republicans than the Democrats,(44 % blaming the Republicans; 35 % blame Democrats.) According to CNN Polling Director Keating Holland, when George W. Bush’s name is added to the mix, the number who blame the Republicans rises to 53 percent, with just a third saying that Barack Obama and his party are at fault.
Remember how the Tea Party turned on Scott Brown very quickly?
Its fair to ask, then what. Nobody has any idea what the Republican agenda is, and they seem to prefer that way. But if there’s a drubbing at some point, the public is going to get wind of what it is, and they’ll weigh in on whether they like it.
I think it’ll blow up in their faces.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What you deserve is the same thing anyone deserves– a fair shot, equal opportunity when it comes to employment and education, the right to vote, freedom of speech, a fair wage, etc.– see the Bill of rights (or is that too obscure for you?)– and it sounds like you got all that.
Yes, equal opportunity. Not equal results or a “fair wage”. I don’t recall either of those in the Bill of Rights yet those two canards are at the center of progressive ideology. I get paid what the market will bare, not what someone deems as “fair”.
How does my life experience make me different from most Democrats? Are you serious? MOST Democrats? It couldn’t be more different. How many conservative Democrats do you know? A generation ago there was such an animal, the Kennedy/Catholic Democrats. There is no room for them now. As that demon Ronald Reagan said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat party, they left me.”
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Lincoln was a Republican, right?
Posted by: Woody | Sep 5, 2010 10:49:57 PM
Yes. You should read that Salon article you snubbed.
Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil) Unaware of history? Demographics? Blue state versus red state? What happened to the parties post-Civil Rights Act? Look up the history of the parties and the realignment when the south and the evangelicals went Republican– and why.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
true blue:”You seem to put a lot of weight on what Americans want. So, if we look at a recent Newsweek poll, …”
Look, I’m not going to get in a polling war with you. Clearly you cherry-picked two of the most left-leaning organizations out there, Newsweek and CNN. I prefer RCP aggregates where you can drill down to specific questioning and verbiage.
Of course what the winning party does is important (see Obama and massive Dem majority). If they screw it up, the people will respond. It’s the degree of the response that’s significant. Every midterm election is tough on the party in power, we all know that. A victory of historic proportions would be a crystal clear signal that Obama needs to enact a Clinton-like move to the center but I don’t think has it in him. Clinton was a populist and master politician. Obama is not either of those.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Are you serious?
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totally serious. You say, “I’m one of those people most liberals despise; someone who succeeded with no special treatment or help from Uncle Sam. Someone who worked three jobs while putting themselves through college.”
That describes a lot of people, myself included. That describes a lot of Democrats, myself included. That describes a lot of Obamabots, myself included. You seem to think that makes you special, or despicable– its hard to tell which. If people despise you, its probably for other reasons. If they despise your rhetoric, lies or mythology, then be honest and say that’s what is despised. i mean, c’mon. You’re feeling sorry for yourself and making ridiculous comments.
The Democrat tent is much bigger than the Republican tent and has been for quite some time. Ask Specter. Ask Bob Casey.
But the South and Evangelicals did go Republican and change the party. That’s true– and it happened post-Kennedy. If that’s your calling, that’s your calling. But man or woman up and don’t blame it on the party. You flipped when the confederates flipped, right?
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
true blue:”Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil)”
Do you really believe that? Apparently you do. If this is the Democrat election strategy I say turn up the volume.
BTW, another free tip. The whole Big Oil term is another black helicopter phrase. It’s equivalent to me saying the Big Green movement is nothing more than former Communists and academics trying to implement Socialism on a global scale. Sounds kinda nutty.
Posted by: Woody | September 5, 2010, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Look, I’m not going to get in a polling war with you.
Posted by: true blue | September 5, 2010, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
That describes a lot of people, myself included. That describes a lot of Democrats, myself included. That describes a lot of Obamabots, myself included.
No, it doesn’t describe a lot of Democrats. Or Republicans for that matter, but certainly not a lot of Democrats or Obamabots.
P.S. I “flipped” as a result of my very own personal life experiences, like when I started paying my own mortgage in my mid 20′s, questioning the role of government, asking where my tax dollars are going, wondering why my local schools were never quite as good as the Catholic ones yet knowing first had the teachers at the Catholic schools earned less money, all that good stuff. I guess you could say it was during the course of becoming a man, as you aluded to. When does politics become personal? It depends on the individual. To suggest I “flipped” because of national politics is laughable.
But then again this isn’t about you or me. You ask “What then?” after the coming election. Who knows, but at least we’ll be able to catch our breath for a moment and try to figure out the best way to undo the damage.
It’s been a pleasure reading your posts. It’s always good to get a peek inside the mind of a true believer. I really appreciate it.
Posted by: Woody | September 6, 2010, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Woody: It’s equivalent to me saying the Big Green movement is nothing more than former Communists and academics trying to implement Socialism on a global scale. Sounds kinda nutty.
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funny thing is you’ve probably said just about that, haven’t you? I seem to recall you were quite the denialist, and happened to quote a lot of Koch funded talking points.
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true blue:”Lincoln was a Republican, but he wasn’t a conservative or confederate– and he’d be thrown out of the Republican party today as not being conservative or confederate enough (States Rights! Slavery!Cotton! –replace slavery with xenophobia, wage slavery and inequality and cotton with Big Oil)”
Woody: Do you really believe that? Apparently you do. If this is the Democrat election strategy I say turn up the volume.
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Yes I think the tea party/conservative movement shares much in common with the confederate movement, and that Lincoln would be turned out of the party as a northern liberal RINO nowadays. (States Rights!)
No, its not dem election strategy. I’m a democrat by default, I’m an Obamabot by default– because the other options stunk/stink/atank more.I get a little sick of elected Dems being afraid to call a spade a spade when it comes to the nut jobs that Republicans are mainstreaming. I’m NOT afraid to. republicans and conservatives (and centrists) and the people they voted for started an unnecessary war based on either lies or shady/faulty intelligence, instituted and defended torture, trampled all over our civil liberties– and brag about it. Never mind the growing inequality and poverty they’ve created.
Posted by: true blue | September 6, 2010, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Continuing from my last post,
the right wing conveniently forgets that when former President Bush left office, jobs in America — after two terms of dismal job creation(the worst eight-year record since 1927-35)–were dropping at an alarming rate of 700,000 to 800,000 jobs per month. From January 2008 through January 2009, the U.S. economy lost 3.5 million jobs; 3.65 million private sector jobs offset slightly by 148,000 jobs created by federal, state and local governments.
They try to blame the recession and unemployment on the Dems– painting them as old school tax and spend liberals, socialists, communists–ignoring the dismal record of the Republicans in Congress and the plethora of articles written about the loss of manufacturing jobs due to Bush policy during the years Republicans held control of Congress.
And to everyone’s astonishment, they suddenly care about the deficit for the first time in a good eight years, but really longer if you look at their records under Papa Bush and Reagan, despite it being the wrong time to worry about that and pretend they’re not “government” with a leadership role to play on the brink of economic crisis (It is funny to hear establishment politicians rail against the establishment. What’s not funny is that dupes buy into it. Sheesh!)
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 5:14 am 5:14 am
Just to finish up here,
Fortunately, the left wing believes in
American productivity and the American worker, and believes in working themselves, so the Dems say, you know what, rather than blaming American workers for the consequences of bankrupt Republican policies and ideology, if the private sector can’t meet the demand for jobs, we can and will because we have roads and bridges to fix, rail to expand, new energy sources to develop, health IT to implement, schools to build and renovate, scientific research to conduct, etc.
The right wing says heck no, and votes AGAINST small business aid, extension of unemployment benefits, stimulus, aid to states to protect firefighter, teacher and police officer jobs, green energy jobs, and middle class tax cuts, demagoguing and fear mongering and scapegoating all the while. (But when they can they take credit for the stimulus funds that go to their states, districts and constituencies, including those dedicated to job fairs. hypocrites.)
That’s not all, of course. The right wing makes kooky claims about how small businesses don’t need credit, and yet Todd McCracken, the president of the National Small Business Association on Sunday morning has endorsed the small business aid bill, noting the importance of the credit lines it will open up.
You see, it comes down to this: either you believe in the American worker and small business owner and their work ethic and productivity and think that it is more important to provide a decent life for everyone , or you think it is more important to preserve the rights and capital of people who own property and the economic elites. Either you understand Paine’s point that the concept of private ownership arose as necessary due to the development of agriculture but that the basic needs of all humanity must be provided for by those with property, who have originally taken it from the general public, and that is provided via equal opportunity to work and make a fair wage, or you do not.
Many progressives, liberals, left wingers and/or democrats are dedicated to the ends– job creation, a decent life for everyone, fair wages, equal opportunity– and if there was any evidence that Republican policies and ideology were the means to those ends, or would help solve our problems, we’d go for it. But the evidence isn’t there.
Meanwhile the right wing is dedicated to its faith in first principles, regardless of potentially cruel outcomes. They blame those who fall on hard times for their circumstances, unless the one who happens to fall upon hard times is them. Then they blame some “other.”
In regards to progressive ideology in general, its amazing the amount of misinformation people put out there.
Its simply not true that progressives represent for equal outcomes without equal inputs as part of their ideology.
Progressivism advocates for the interests of ordinary, everyday people in their roles as taxpayers, consumers, employees and citizens, championing government “of the people, by the people, for the people.” Progressivism advocates for reform, change, progress and continual improvement in terms of the advancement of humanity, typically in opposition to reactionaries and in contrast to “conservatives” who advocate for conserving, preserving and maintaining traditional institutions, and hierarchies of power benefiting the economically elite who exploit their advantages politically.
Have you ever visited coal mines in West Virginia? Beginning in the late 1880s, thousands of immigrants went to West virginia to work for coal mining companies. They were required to lease their equipment and rent company housing; the fees were deducted from their pay. Coal companies even made up their own monetary systems, paying their employees with company money, which forced them to shop only at company stores. The stores themselves charged over-inflated prices, since there was no alternative for purchasing goods.Miners were also denied proper pay and a fair wage through cribbing. Bottom line: The working conditions wer unsafe, and the pay wasn’t fair. Eventually this led to attempts to unionize and the West Virginia mine wars. Mary Harris “Mother” Jones– a progressive labor and community organizer was there. Her motto was “pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living.” she also once said,
“Often while sewing for the lords and barons who lived in magnificent houses on the Lake Shore Drive, I would look out of the plate glass windows and see the poor, shivering wretches, jobless and hungry, walking alongside the frozen lake front. The contrast of their condition with that of the tropical comfort of the people for whom I sewed was painful to me.”
That’s what being progressive is all about. Doing something about that. Not preserving the system that makes it increasingly difficult for those folks to lead a decent life, to take advantage of an equal opportunity for work and a fair wage.
Happy Labor Day.
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 5:17 am 5:17 am
Interestingly, you also ask the same type of questions as smartlilena. I would think if you were consistent, you’d find that “weird.”
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The only thing wierd is this break from reality. Voters aren’t liking what they see coming out of the Dems. They (voters) are madder than hell. They’re getting madder everyday. Their numbers are growing everyday. That is reality.
Pigs get fat, hogs go to slaughter.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 6, 2010, 6:00 am 6:00 am
Do you see something happening that actually matters when it comes to the economy
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Just maybe. Maybe a little confidence that Barak Obama won’t have free rein to stick a knife in the backs of industries he thinks are evil.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 6, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am
Where is Feingold?
Posted by: Nephron | September 6, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am
The national debt is a crisis that is not getting media attention. Recovery schemes require money and with41 cents on the dollar being borrowed, any spending deepens the pit.
PayGo has been a failure as Congress keeps designating spending increases as “emergencies” to get around the rule. This is every bit as devious as underpricing Obamacare and calling it the Rx for the deficit to get around the “sunset rule”. Most Americans have failed to do the research and don’t realize that almost two trillion dollars of spending is exempt from PayGo.
It is time to stop talking about deficit reduction and get serious about deficit elimination and paying down the national debt. If we were to apply credit card minimum payment rules to the debt the payment for 2010 would be $520 billion. With zero deficits and half-trillion per year payments it would take 50+ years to amortize the current debt. But the Obama/Pelosi/Reid triad continue to spend and the CBO projects that by 2020 the payment just to service the interest on the debt will be a required $900 billion. I suspect that with its more recent and more accurate re-scoring of Obamacare costs the real number to service the debt will be over one trillion by 2020.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 6, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
It is almost funny to see the horror and distain and sadness in the faces of the media people when they have to report bad news about their GOD Obama. It is like watching a soap opera were the villain is dying but everyone is sure he is the hero until they read the letter of his confessions and they all feel used and betrayed and can not bring themselves to accept they were such complete morons.
Posted by: Wade Johnson | September 6, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
The national debt is a crisis that is not getting media attention.
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Its getting much more attention than it warrants. Don’t be insane.
Americans know a much bigger priority– the number one concern–is jobs.
Work.
And Democrats believe in the American worker and work ethic.
Unlike Republicans, they know the problem right now isn’t that the American worker is spoiled as lazy as the new styled Republicans suggest (check out what Sharron Angle has said)
The problem is the lack of work.
And , if the private sector can’t meet the demand for jobs, Democrats understand that the government has a role and that role is to lead– to note that the government can and should create jobs because we have roads and bridges to fix, rail to expand, new energy sources to develop, health IT to implement, schools to build and renovate, scientific research to conduct, etc.
Let’s start by supporting small business. The right wing makes kooky claims about how small businesses don’t need credit, and yet Todd McCracken, the president of the National Small Business Association on Sunday morning has endorsed the small business aid bill, noting the importance of the credit lines it will open up.
Pass the bill.
Posted by: Cara | September 6, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Unions are the new opressor, thugs and intimidators abound, ACLU can you shield me from the shackles of forced unionization?
Posted by: Downwithsocialism | September 6, 2010, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Pass the bill.
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There aren’t the votes in the current congress to pass Obama’s latest pipe dream (the bill). If such a bill were hashed out and on paper right now voters wouldn’t believe a word of it. Obama isn’t trustworthy. The Dem leadership isn’t trustworthy. Voters know it.
Posted by: smartlillena | September 7, 2010, 6:03 am 6:03 am
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Voters don’t trust Republicans either. That’s the thing. They are sick of everybody. Republicans will benefit during the midterms, as they were always going to, but that won’t translate into “change” — Republicans haven’t changed. And Boehner is the most establishment dude of them all.
Irony, that.
The only good thing that could come out of it is longer term in regards to the parties. Additional choices, perhaps.
As a writer, its all good for me– tormented artist stuff. But I do worry about the country, American workers and small business owners, those who are vulnerable and actually are in need right now.
Keep pushing work, job creation, science, infrastructure, alternate energy, Mr. President– as well as middle class tax cuts, small business aid, research and innovation. If the Congress won’t pass it, you’ll still know you did the right thing.
Posted by: Cara | September 7, 2010, 11:16 am 11:16 am