By Nitya

Sep 8, 2010 4:52pm

Still Fear vs. Hope? Obama Attacks John Boehner, GOP’s Economic Vision

From
Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

In
a starkly political speech President Obama assailed House Minority Leader John
Boehner, R-OH, by name eight times today, attacking the Republicans economic
philosophy as flawed and weak, attempting to define the choice that
people have in November’s election.

In
rhetoric very similar to the comparisons he’d draw between the two parties in
the 2008 presidential campaign, President Obama framed the election for voters.

“It’s
still fear versus hope; the past versus the future,” Obama said from Cleveland,
Ohio today, “It’s still a choice between sliding backward and moving
forward.  That’s what this election is about.  That’s the choice
you’ll face in November.”

The
president defined the Republican economic philosophy as, “Cut taxes, especially
for millionaires and billionaires.  Cut regulations for special
interests.  Cut trade deals even if they didn’t benefit our workers. 
Cut back on investments in our people and our future.”

The
president came to Cleveland today to draw a stark comparison between his
economic agenda and that of the Republicans – as House Minority Leader John
Boehner just over two weeks ago outlined the Republican economic agenda in a
speech in the same city.


“There were no new policies from Mr. Boehner,” Obama said of his speech, “There were no new ideas.  There was just the same philosophy we already tried for the
last decade – the same philosophy that led to this mess in the first place.”

The
economic policies in Mr. Obama’s speech today  -  infrastructure
investments, expanding, simplifying and making permanent the R&D tax
credit, and allowing companies to fully deduct qualified capital investments
through the end of 2011 – are new initiatives that the president will be talking
about from now until election day, the White House says. But his speech today
was not to elaborate on the details of the yet-to-be-passed proposals, but yet
to compare the economic values of the two parties.

“Mr.
Boehner and the Republicans in Congress said no to these projects,” Obama said
noting that some of the ideas have traditionally had bipartition support in the
past, “that too is what this election is about.”

One of the many policy disagreements centers on the Bush tax cuts
set to expire at the end of the year. President Obama wants to extend them for
those who earn under $200,000 a year, while Republicans want to also extend
them for the top two tax brackets.  Making a middle-class appeal today,
Mr. Obama said directly to the people in the audience “you deserve some help,”
saying that he believes they ought to make tax cuts for the middle class
permanent.

“So
let me be clear to Mr. Boehner and everyone else:  we should not hold
middle class tax cuts hostage any longer.  We are ready, this week, to
give tax cuts to every American making $250,000 or less,” Obama said, “Now for
any income over this amount, the tax rates would go back to what they were
under President Clinton.  This isn’t to punish folks who are better off.
God Bless them. It’s because we can’t afford the $700 billion price tag.”

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell in a statement pushed
back against Mr. Obama’s speech.

“If the President wanted to have an immediate impact on hiring, he
could begin by changing his mind and announcing today his opposition to the
job-killing tax hikes on small businesses,” McConnell said, “ America’s job
creators have already been hit with higher health care costs and related taxes,
new bureaucracy and a financial regulation bill. Americans want jobs, not more
government, more debt and more taxes. Let’s start today with a declarative
statement against tax hikes on the small businesses that are critical to expand
and create jobs.”

The
president said that it’s the “easiest” thing for the Republican part to do in a
political campaign – to “ride this fear and anger all the way to Election
Day,”  without offering up a serious plan to govern, he said. Drawing up
historical comparisons,  the president praised many Republicans, many of
whom are dead – Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt,
Eisenhower, Reagan –calling them serious leaders for serious times –
suggesting the Republican party of today is not holding up those traditions.

“They
were great politicians, but they didn’t spend all their time playing games or
scoring points,” Obama said of the Republicans of yesteryear, “They didn’t
always prey on people’s fears and anxieties. They made mistakes, but they
did what they thought was in the best interest of their country and its
people.  That’s what the American people expect of us today – Democrats,
Independents, and Republicans.  That’s the debate they deserve. 
That’s the leadership we owe them.”

The
president also talked about his and First Lady Michelle Obama’s humble roots –
striking a personal tone to economic struggles they too have had in the past,
at a time when many Americans are struggling themselves.

“My
grandfather marched off to Europe in World War II and my grandmother worked in
factories on the home front.  I had a single mom who put herself through
school, and would wake before dawn to make sure I got a decent education….Yes,
our families believed in the American values of self-reliance and individual
responsibility, and they instilled those values in their children.  But
they also believed in a country that rewards responsibility.”

Today’s
economic speech in Cleveland follows President Obama’s economic address in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin on Monday and a daytime press conference on Friday at the
White House.

-Jake
Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

“There were no new policies from Mr. Boehner,”. Really? Is that why he put forth yet another new idea that mirrored what Orszag said just this morning? Cut spending back to the 2008 budget (a budget Obama voted in favor of), extend all tax cuts for 2 years. So if Orszag’sidea was so bad, as it must be if Boehner doesn’t put forth new ideas, why was Orszag head of the budget for so long?

Posted by: Zaggs | September 8, 2010, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Also when is the WH press corp going to start asking when we can expect a budget for next year from the democrats in congress? They only have 3 weeks left. It can’t be because they’re scared can it?

Posted by: Zaggs | September 8, 2010, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

“But his speech today was not to elaborate on the details of the yet-to-be-passed proposals, but yet to compare the economic values of the two parties.”
I thought the speech was about the economy, policies and programs. I’m shocked, I tell you, shocked that that this was political!

Posted by: Appalled | September 8, 2010, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Posted by: Donna | Sep 8, 2010 5:18:37 PM
Donna,
That’s as likely as Goldman Sachs not maintaining the WH as a field office.

Posted by: St. Gensler | September 8, 2010, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

obama has spent the last 2 years spitting on the middle class and now that dems will be destroyed in november he wants to help. LETS TALK HEALTHSCAM OBAMA !

Posted by: sparko | September 8, 2010, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Another batch of tax cuts from Obama.
When is he going to get the point – tax cuts do not create jobs
—-
Neither does a stimulus.

Posted by: Obvious | September 8, 2010, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Funny how obama fails to mention healthscam.

Posted by: sparko | September 8, 2010, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Funny how obama fails to mention healthscam.
I can’t imagine why. It was such an awesome bill. Yet Dems don’t even mention it. Almost like they want to avoid it or something…

Posted by: Memo | September 8, 2010, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Obama’s Ohio Speech In A Nutshell:I Can’t Believe My Polls Number Are Tanking In OHIO! Lets Borrow Another 200/300 Billion from your children to fix highways/infrastructure,My 700 Billion dollar stimulus has failed,all of our current economic problems are George Bush’s fault,And I Am In Absolute Fear Of Speaker Of The House JOHN BOEHNER! So I will insult him for the next 35 minutes! This was pretty much what Obama spoke of today in Ohio,In Case You Missed It!

Posted by: pauldia | September 8, 2010, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

“Is that why he put forth yet another new idea that mirrored what Orszag said just this morning? Cut spending back to the 2008 budget (a budget Obama voted in favor of), extend all tax cuts for 2 years.”
Except that is not a new idea and it also misrepresents what Orszag said.
The GOP has been clambering to make Bush tax cuts permanent since they were enacted. It was even an issue in the 2008 election.
Orszag offered extending all tax cuts as political advice of compromise to make sure the middle class tax cuts remain.
From his editorial.
” Ideally only the middle-class tax cuts would be continued for now. Getting a deal in Congress, though, may require keeping the high-income tax cuts, too. And that would still be worth it.”
And I am willing to bet big money that Boehner does not want all tax cuts to expire in two years as Orszag recommended or that right wing bugaboo the VAT that Orszag also brought up.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Who says there are no jobs in the U.S. There are plenty of jobs out there its just that, you need to to be in a state of mind to find a job and get to work. I have seen people shifting from one state to another, secondly the salaries have gone up. There are people who have bought new cars, at the end of the day its all about your selve.

Posted by: KEITH | September 8, 2010, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 8, 2010 5:34:24 PM
Feel free to send in more money than you already do. Perhaps Rangel and Geithner can help you out.

Posted by: Memo | September 8, 2010, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

“Who says there are no jobs in the U.S. There are plenty of jobs out there its just that, you need to to be in a state of mind to find a job and get to work. I have seen people shifting from one state to another, secondly the salaries have gone up. There are people who have bought new cars, at the end of the day its all about your selve.”
True. My job at Goldman Sachs has been great. Bought me a new ride too. Thanks for your support!

Posted by: Lloyd | September 8, 2010, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Obama just gave his same stump speech from two years ago–and he wasn’t even able to fill up an arena at a community college.
ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

I would say Mr Boehner you need to strongly support our President who has done what we feel another person in his place might have done. We can see how things are changeing with time and in a very strong way, perfect as it can be. Your question was where are the jobs, there are a lots of jobs out there, you need to find one secondly the salaries have gone up for the right person for the job and we need to become that right person as time passes by.

Posted by: KEITH | September 8, 2010, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Obama reminds me of child—-always whinning about someone else.

Posted by: IndependentVoice | September 8, 2010, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Where did the President come up with the latest “stimulus”? The same failed economists who came up with the last one? Why not put each of the proposals in front of the Congressional Budget Office and let the numbers speak for themselves.

Posted by: Voice_Reason | September 8, 2010, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

So, Obama must be convinced Boehner will be the Speaker of the House come January.
Take that, Nancy.
LOL

Posted by: Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them | September 8, 2010, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Wake up, Americans. Democrats are not our friends. Vote in November.

Posted by: Julie | September 8, 2010, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Does anyone actually believe a word this guy says any more?
He’s a con man. Nothing more.
Get lost Obama. Soon. Very soon.

Posted by: Kyle Roget | September 8, 2010, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Why should we believe you, Mr. President? You said that nobody making less than $200K would see ANY of their taxes rise…then you raise taxes on cigarettes, tanning beds, etc.
Play the class warfare game to win votes, then go ahead and raise taxes on the middle class, then hope they’re too stupid to remember that you can’t be trusted when the next election rolls around. Straight out of the Democrat playbook.

Posted by: DaveinMN | September 8, 2010, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

“Where did the President come up with the latest “stimulus”?”
Most of them are ideas kicked around by Republicans.
The Republican response to Obama’s proposal incorporating their ideas?
Why rejection of course.
Can’t have the economy do well before the elections, that might hurt their chances of getting back into power.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

“You said that nobody making less than $200K would see ANY of their taxes rise…then you raise taxes on cigarettes, tanning beds, etc.”
The Jersey Shore cast protest vote?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Obama: “no new ideas”
Apparently, Obama is admitting that his ideas are insufficient to promote recovery. Why would Boehner have to propose “new ideas” if Obama has already proposed the right ones?
To use Obama’s analogy: if the car in the ditch is already fixed, why is Obama asking Boehner to fix it again?
Obama’s rhetoric is beyond repetitive, he may believe that if he says it enough times, people will jump on his bandwagon. Instead, people are seeing how illogical the rhetoric is. Why isn’t Obama able to see even the most basic issues — that any additional spending, much less the $50 billion he proposes, is not “paid for” as he claims.
The irony is, Obama proposes to do more of the same — $50 billion in ‘infrastructure’ spending, while expecting different results. Isn’t it Obama who is demonstrably insane for proposing more of the same?

Posted by: Mike, CO | September 8, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

More worthless, arrogant, puffery from Obama.
With each passing day, we loathe you and more, Barry.
November here we come. Then on to 2012.

Posted by: Beck | September 8, 2010, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Most divisive president ever.
His level of stark partisanship and hate for the majority of Americans, which according to Gallop are firmly center right, is staggering.
Unite, Americans, and vote in November.

Posted by: Ledder | September 8, 2010, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

“Why would Boehner have to propose “new ideas”"
Yeah why have a vibrant opposition offering solutions when the GOP is perfectly happy to ride a crappy economy back to power.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

“His level of stark partisanship and hate for the majority of Americans, which according to Gallop are firmly center right, is staggering”
Since you mentioned Gallup, in their latest generic ballot the Democrats have pulled even again….apparently convincing people the party who wrecked the economy is the one who will be best able to fix it again is a tougher sell than right-wingers have anticipated.

Posted by: Skip | September 8, 2010, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Look, you people who are against the Democrats must be kidding. The Republicans are not telling the truth. You people must understand, the feeling against the new president should be directed to the republican party because they caused this mess. You have no right to blame the Democrats, it was on the Republican watch that this economic destruction occurred. No new President for 1 1/2 yrs. could not cause this big problem, it is immpossible. It is easy to blame the wrong party. You must not allow the Republicans to control your mine and your soul. How long you think it take to fix what took place the last 8 years?
The greed, sending jobs overseas, housing market, stock market, the many lies tols, started the war, and caused people to loose their investments was caused by the republican party. You expect the new president to fix what the previous administration caused;why you did not blame the republicans for this mess;you never once complained about them? Someone always has to clean your house when you make the mess;like
hiring a poor maid to cook your food and watch your children. This country does not belond to one race of people.
Stop being weak minded and get a life, and learn to feel and tell the truth.

Posted by: John Doe | September 8, 2010, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Fact check – President G.W. Bush & the Republicans & their legacy
On Jan. 12, 2009, at his last press conference as president, George W. Bush reflected on key policies — defending some, acknowledging some mistakes and noting that some just didn’t turn out as intended. Below are quotes from his exchanges with reporters, as well as background on each issue: • The economy • Unemployment
“Look, I inherited a recession, I’m ending on a recession.” (GWBush)
THE FACTS: There have been two recessions during Bush’s time in office. The first was a relatively mild downturn that began in March 2001 and lasted eight months, ending in November 2001. Since the first one did not begin until after he took office in January 2001, it is not strictly accurate to say he “inherited” it.
The second downturn began in December 2007 and has lasted longer than any recession in a quarter century. It has surpassed in length all other downturns of the post-World War II period.
As for his claim of job growth…, job growth after the 2001 recession did not resume on a sustained basis until September 2003, continuing until January 2007, a period of 52 months.
However, jobs have declined in every month since January 2007. A staggering 2.6 million jobs disappeared in 2008, the most since World War II, and unemployment hit a 16-year high of 7.2 percent in December 2008.
Results Overall, during president Bush’s eight years in office, a net total of 3 million jobs were created. In the two terms of his predecessor, President Clinton, roughly 21 million jobs were generated.
Now, what needs to be done?
1) President Obama should reject the Republican economic policies and stay the course to economic recovery.
2) Oppose the tax breaks for families making more than $250,000 a year.

Posted by: Josh Washington | September 8, 2010, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

ABC Nightly New FACT Checker Report about Small Business making over $250K being taxed more if tax break not continued. BULL; I have worked for small businesses as an Accountant and have my own small business and we will invest in equipment, bring on a new employee whatever to keep profit below the $250K mark to not pay the increase if we are that close to the $250,000 profit amount. JUST WHAT WE NEED INVESTMENT IN BUSINESS AND JOBS CREATED. THIS is the only way that will happen. Small business hate paying taxes most of all so they will spend to decrease profit to avoid that. Why do you think one business buys a business with losses – to avoid PAYING TAXES is one of the reasons along with others like acquiring equipment, pattens, things they want from the business. FACT CHECKERS GET THE FACTS!!!

Posted by: Jane P | September 8, 2010, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

The problems with the republican party, they never once admitted what they did to the economy. They sent jobs overseas,
they allowed greed, they caused people to loose their life investment, started the war in IRAQ, they caused an infestation (lobbist control),the banking problems, causing racial unrest, want to privatize social security, accepting money, and many other factors related to economic crisis. The republicans onlt care about getting re-elected yet they done nothing to prevent the last 8 years of economic destruction. It is impossible for a new president for 1 1/2 years cause this mess. I think because the new president is none white is the reason they attack him. The republicans are not thinking about the people in this country because they are spending all of their time attacking Obama. We do not have time for racial divide, the country is hurting;caused by the republicans. Do your research on tyhe republicans for the 8 years in office,what did they really do?
You remember the days when people hired
maids to clean their housse and take care of their children, and cook their food. Well, this is the same situation, clean up your mess you made.

Posted by: John Doe | September 8, 2010, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Republicans are determined to stop the runaway spending.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 8, 2010, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Boehner and the other GOP offer no solutions to the mess they and Bush made. Obama does. Borrowing to build infrastructure creates durable goods plus employment for the people a decade of GOP governance has nearly destroyed. If tax cuts for the rich is a good idea why did it lead to this depression?
GOP, examine your consciences. Be human. Be real.

Posted by: Bill | September 8, 2010, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Libs and The Lying Liars Who Elect Them wrote:”Obama just gave his same stump speech from two years ago–and he wasn’t even able to fill up an arena at a community college.”
.
oBama is a one trick pony, or in his latest words, you can’t teach a DOG new tricks. The thrill is gone, and most importantly the TRUST is gone. Neutered in November!

Posted by: gk | September 8, 2010, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

“I have worked for small businesses as an Accountant and have my own small business and we will invest in equipment, bring on a new employee whatever to keep profit below the $250K mark to not pay the increase if we are that close to the $250,000 profit amount. JUST WHAT WE NEED INVESTMENT IN BUSINESS AND JOBS CREATED. THIS is the only way that will happen. Small business hate paying taxes most of all so they will spend to decrease profit to avoid that.”
Most of the right wingers here only have experience with small business when the RNC made them independent contractors.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

I don’t think cutting taxes is the total answer to our problems yet I don’t think spending ourselves silly and kicking the debt can down the road is what we need to be doing either. The President came into office while most of us were dumbfounded over what was going on and he played upon those fears (never let a good crisis go to waste). So we have HCR which has daily reports(reports the ms media isn’t covering) of just how much it is going to cost those of us who pay through the nose for it now and no real accountability of where all that stimulus went or how much of it that can be accounted for went to bail out states and unions versus putting men and women who didn’t have jobs to work (remember all those shovel ready jobs). Then there is the home foreclosure program that was a flop.
So just who is doing good these days? Ask the bankers and the wall street guys, ask Soros and the hedge fund guys ask Paulson whose firm is doing great and ask what do they all have in common?

Posted by: david | September 8, 2010, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Tax cuts for rich cost over ten times investing in infrastructure.
This is the Obama we need to see.
Simple.
Sound bites for a media not into long quotes.

Posted by: kravitz | September 8, 2010, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Ryan,why are you so jealous of people who are successful? They pay the lion’s share of taxes.They furnish jobs for millions of people.They take the risks that grow the economy.What kind of job do you have(if any)?Have you ever started a business?Have you ever taken out a small business loan?I suspect not.I suspect that you are a New York state employee living off the fat of the private sector that pays the exorbitant taxes of your state.

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2010, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Ryan C: “Most of the right wingers here only have experience with small business when the RNC made them independent contractors.”
Are you speaking from experience, or is this one of your talking points? I think it is unlikely that you are a small business owner, and it would be extra cynical to stereotype your opponents using unsubstantiated anecdotes from this board.
The important question is: why isn’t Obama on the offensive against Republicans? Republicans have not been in control of congress. But the Democrats can only pass ‘emergency’ spending bills in an attempt to compensate for a poor economy.
This is not leadership from Democrats, it is defensively flailing in the wind. Obama is trying to promote the idea that we are headed in the right direction, and at the same time he says we have a crisis created by Republicans. He will not acknowledge that it is Obama that claims that the economy is not recovering fast enough using his own measures, despite his own policies.
It is not wrong to question Obama, especially when he acknowledges that his plans are not working. But it is too much when he reserves the benefit of the doubt exclusively for himself.
So there is reason to be cynical when Obama says those ‘new ideas’ that the Republicans “don’t” have are worse than the “new” idea of spending additional $50 billon on infrastructure — which was exactly what the stimulus was for in the first place. And then he tries to adopt (in part) tax cuts that the Republicans have been proposing for months.
It is only prudent to be critical about what Obama is saying, because it flies in the face of logic.

Posted by: Mike, CO | September 8, 2010, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Pres Barry is out campaigning again with “Yes we can.’ Remember that was his 2008 slogan?” (Yes, we remember.)
Pres Barry is out there joking saying about Republicans “Their slogan is ‘No we can’t!’ Nope! No! No! No!”
Except, oone thing dear Pres Barry.
No is a pretty sound position when the nation is careening off a cliff in massive debt.
America is on a path to bankruptcy. This is no longer news and no longer debatable. What remains in question is, what are we going to do about it?

Posted by: bl | September 8, 2010, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Posted by: Nephron | Sep 8, 2010 8:35:13 PM
Another variation on the old right-wing wealth=success argument. Honest hard working middle class folks who are dedicated spouses, parents and members of their communities are as successful in life as anybody can be.

Posted by: Skip | September 8, 2010, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

There is nothing wrong with trying but not succeeding=many small business ventures don’t make it. But the beauty of this country is thatyou can fail,but still try again. Many successful business owners don’t make it on the first go-around.

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2010, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

“I suspect that you are a New York state employee living off the fat of the private sector that pays the exorbitant taxes of your state.”
ROFLMAO!
Time to change from tin foil to aluminum there Nephie.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

“I suspect that you are a New York state employee living off the fat of the private sector that pays the exorbitant taxes of your state.”
ROFLMAO!
Time to change from tin foil to aluminum there Nephie.

Charles Rangel wouldn’t be up this late…

Posted by: EST | September 8, 2010, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

NoBo ought to be thankful the Republicans are taking control of the Congress this November. It’s his only chance at redemption for his presidency. Remember how the Republicans made Clinton look like a super star president. Obama can only hope for as much. Yet, this dude continues to berate the very people who can save his hide. Ironic, insensitive and downright dumb.

Posted by: Noz | September 8, 2010, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

The Party of Hell No and Hate is going to feel the heat. It’s 2008 again.

Posted by: tchanta | September 9, 2010, 12:03 am 12:03 am

” It’s 2008 again.” – tchanta
Nope.
I just checked my computer calendar, it’s Thursday, the 9th of September 2010.

Posted by: Noz | September 9, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am

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