Today’s Q’s for O’s WH – 9/7/2010

Gibbs said:
“If you make $40,000 a year, I think you’re putting off a lot of purchases based on the fact that you don’t have it, and that impacts consumer demands.”
If you make $40,000 a year you are not paying ANY federal income taxes, the Bush tax cuts are 100% irrelevant to you, except as a means to engage in class warfare.

Sorry for previous dupe submission…
If two years isn’t enough time, how long will it take? Another year? Two? Six?
If they don’t know, why don’t they know?

“GIBBS: Again, I — I think by virtually any measure our economy is in a better place than it was two years ago.”
A stunningly stupid statement from gibbs. How about measuring unemployment, long-term unemployment, national debt, deficit spending, real gdp, unfunded pensions, unfunded liabilities or …
If you are better off than you were two years ago then vote democrat.

Gibbs talks about how the President will be graded on what happens at the end of this road and not someplace in between. It seems like he is on a different road than many Americans- because for them, they already are at the end of the road.
I don’t know the length of the road the President has described, he should heed Keynes’ words that in the long run, we are all dead. Hopefully his initiatives bear some fruit sooner than that.

“Excellent article at newsbusters on the downfall of journalism at ABC..this is what happens when the radical left takes over..sinking ratings”
Always amazing that the right wing associates good ratings with quality journalism.
I wonder if you guys are mad that the WWE gets better ratings than FoxNews?

I see Aarons post and my reply got taken down… anyway Aaron great post
Obama VS America

It’s the same everywhere, the rich get richer and the poor stay poor!

BTW – Nice questioning of Spokesman Robert Fibbs today.

@shoe — For the first time in history, public union employees now out number private sector unionized employees 7.9 million to 7.4 million. The average federal worker is now averaging $123,000 per year including $42,000 in benefits. The number of federal workers has increased 10% since the start of the recession compared to a loss of 6.8% jobs in the private sector.
Some eye-opening numbers…..

The Obama administration’s prior economic forecasts require GDP growth to be much than it currently is for their estimates for deficits and future economic conditions (such as unemployment) to be true.
Since the economy has not experienced a high rate of growth, CBO estimates for recently passed legislation are also likely to be wrong.
The rhetoric from Obama is irresponsible. It is too self-serving to only be ‘frustrated’ with the consequences of failure. It is illogical too to call the economic situation a crisis, if we are also heading in the right direction.
If Obama was true to his rhetoric, he would fire all of his economic advisers for being wrong. They, just like “Bush”, failed to meet their own expectations. Instead, Obama has chosen to unconditionally support his failed policies.
The Obama boat has too much momentum and cannot be turned around. Even the media are unable to reflect Obama’s true image back to himself. Will the media show Gibbs that the emperor has no clothes, or will they allow Gibbs to pretend that nothing obvious is amiss?

Apples and oranges also taste differently. What’s your point comparing Fox News to WWE?

“But back to the central, why do right wingers think ratings equals good journalism? ”
Although I haven’t seen anyone write that high ratings equals good journalism, as you claim, it seems fairly evident that high ratings of a program is a good indication the program is well received for its content. WWE for example, offers entertainment. Fox News offers credibility. Air America, on the other hand, offered nothing, I guess, except excellent journalism as you would suggest.

“Fox News offers credibility”
ROFLMAO!
Funniest line of the day!

“Fox News offers credibility”
ROFLMAO! “Funniest line of the day!”
How often do you watch Fox News?

“How often do you watch Fox News?”
I prefer reading my news personally whether in print or online and use cable news for major new events or speeches so I would say not often.
Here’s the lineup for FoxNews
Fox & Friends
America’s Newsroom
Happening Now
America Live with Megyn Kelly
Studio B with Shepard Smith
Your World with Neil Cavuto
Glenn Beck
Special Report with Bret Baier
Shepard Smith
The O’Reilly Factor
Hannity
On the Record w/ Greta Van Susteren
Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld
Even the “news” segments are personality driven.

“Interesting point. I actually like Shep Smith, but now that you mention it, his name is in the title of his show, personalizing his news hour. (Is his show the only news show? Its the only one that appears that way.)”
I think Shep may do their version of the evening newscast but I am not sure.
Granted personality tends to drive news viewership (even on networks going back sometime) but there are ways of making one’s show a reflection of their personality and I see that far too much in cable news which has too much air time to fill.
And not just the usual chuckleheads on Fox but Rick Sanchez, Dylan Ratigan etc.

Posted by: Shoe | Sep 7, 2010 2:33:24 PM
Posted by: Randy the A/C guy | Sep 7, 2010 4:24:20 PM
Thanks, Randy. Those are eye-opening numbers. I have been curious as to why this administration seemingly likes to hammer those who make enough money to consider them “rich”, yet completely overlook this little tidbit regarding “Mr. Union Boss” himself:
Richard Trumka increased his yearly salary by nearly $74,000—from $165,000 to $238,975— in the last four years. That amounts to a 44 percent salary increase. In addition, Trumka will also get an AFL-CIO pension equal to 60 percent of his top pay.
44% salary INCREASE? Really? In a time of exploding jobless numbers and wage cuts?
I wonder if Mr. Trumka will be one of those “willing to sacrifice” as Mr. Obama has asked of us. Or, maybe he can just fly under the radar of middle-working-class-superhero. How funny.

Don’t judge Fox News by Shep Smith. He’s a joke. He a far left wing nutball who always makes everything about HIM. That irritating music in the background drives me bonkers and I switch him off the minute he come on. Brett Baier is the man for news. Professional and unbiased.

“Brett Baier is the man to pass on your talking points, not as dumb as Steve Doocy, not as crazy as Brit Hume”
For someone who says he doesn’t watch cable news very often, you have strong opinions.
Tell us – who do you think is fair and balanced in presenting the news?

Brit Hume is not crazy, ryan. He is a man of deep faith, who wore that on his sleeve more than most of us consider appropriate, perhaps, during the Tiger Woods discussion. He spoke from his heart that day. But he is a solid journalist and a valuable asset to Fox News.

“GIBBS: Again, I — I think by virtually any measure our economy is in a better place than it was two years ago.”
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What an IDIOT! How does this clueless creep get away with this crap?”
Well, certain figures did go up. We just can’t speak about them because they are a surprise!

“GIBBS: Again, I — I think by virtually any measure our economy is in a better place than it was two years ago.”
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What an IDIOT! How does this clueless creep get away with this crap?”
Posted by: More puppies! | Sep 7, 2010 9:30:51 PM
Actually he’s not an idiot at all. The economy was in free-fall collapse two years ago, 700,000 jobs being lost in a month, major banks and financial institutions imploding, the major american car companies in collapse, the stock market crashing . . . etc, etc, etc.
You have forgotten?

Posted by: More puppie! | Sep 7, 2010 10:03:12 PM
Have you forgotten what things were like two years ago?
The economy was in free-fall collapse two years ago, 700,000 jobs being lost in a month, major banks and financial institutions imploding, the major american car companies in collapse, the stock market crashing . . . etc, etc, etc.
Or do you just ignore all that and pretend?

Posted by: More puppie! | Sep 7, 2010 10:07:32 PM
Pretend all you want . . .
Regardless of what you pretent, the fact is two years ago the economy was in free-fall collapse, 700,000 jobs were being lost in a month, major banks and financial institutions were imploding, the major american car companies were in collapse, the stock market was crashing . . . etc, etc, etc.
Things are far better than that.

Republicans lowered tax rates for the middle and lower classes, tax rates that Obama appears to want kept in place.
Posted by: Sigmonde | Sep 7, 2010 7:50:19 PM
The Republicans simply put all these upaid taxes on the national debt – with its huge interest payments – to China. Thanks a lot.
Oh, did I mention their policies also were the ones in place when the economy collapses destroying peoples’ savings, throwing hundreds of thousands out of work, throwing hundreds of thousands out of their foreclosed homes . … etc. Again, thanks a lot.

Posted by: Eyeareess | Sep 7, 2010 10:28:40 PM
Bush’s cut taxes and didn’t pay for his expenditures, doubling the national debt and indebting us further to China, including doubled interest payments – HUGE interest payments.
AND Republican policies also were the ones in place when the economy collapsed destroying peoples’ savings, throwing hundreds of thousands out of work, throwing hundreds of thousands out of their foreclosed homes . … etc.
The definition of Republican success = overspending, under taxing the country into debt to China, and then ‘overseeing’ the economy as it collapss and all our investements, hard work and mortagaged homes go into the tank.
Again, thanks a lot.

“AND Republican policies also were the ones in place when the economy collapsed destroying peoples’ savings, throwing hundreds of thousands out of work, throwing hundreds of thousands out of their foreclosed homes . … etc.
The definition of Republican success = overspending, under taxing the country into debt to China, and then ‘overseeing’ the economy as it collapss and all our investements, hard work and mortagaged homes go into the tank.”
But luckily, our unemployment rate has stayed below 8%!

Posted by: Steve | Sep 7, 2010 10:49:20 PM
Steve, I want some of what you are smoking! It must be really nice in your world. Unemployment rate 9.6%, record housing forclosures, record number of people on some sort of gov’t assistance…etc. I’d say that isn’t much of an improvement from the beginning of 2009…

I am so sick of listen to these damn Rebublicans. How quickly do you idiots out there forget how we got into this mess. Obama wasn’t the President when the bottom fell out. He helped keep it from falling even further. We could be looking at total economic meltdown if Bush was still in there or those idiots Palin and Mccain. I used to vote for that guy he has lost it. I wish we could get something accomplished to help people. I don’t care who it is . At least Obama is trying. All the Rebublicans want to do is disagree at every turn . Just get something done already we are suffering out here .

Ryan, not hyper defensive, just joined the conversation late and did not see your statements about other cable networks. What I did see was your long list of fox shows and your usual, tedious mischaracterization of fox. I watch both fox and cnn and find both of them to be adequate but not outstanding at presenting the news well. I will admit the only show on msnbc I ever watch for more than 5 minutes is morning joe, and that is certainly not, nor does it pretend to be, an objective news broadcast. it’s entertaining, which i sometimes need in the morning. not going to suffer through Fox and Friends at that early hour, and I just can’t warm up to the cnn offering– not sure why.