Vice President Biden to Democratic Base: ‘Stop Whining’

Financial giveaway bailouts + little to no foreclosure aid, corporate health care giveaways, ABYSMAL civil liberties record, massive increases in military/intelligence spending, mercenary wars and permanent bases in Iraq/Afghanistan that endanger the American people, continued support of Israeli crimes(ditto), BP coverups, likely cuts in social security…
The “whiners” aren’t shooting blanks here–these are serious issues of corrupt and inept governance. The groupthinkers just don’t get it: people see what they are doing and don’t like it. Thus they don’t vote for you. Welcome to the real world, and get ready to start drawing unemployment like the rest of America.

“This President has done an incredible job. He’s kept his promises.”
JOBS? Wasn’t that a “major focus”? How’s that “three-letter word” working out for you Biden?
How was your summer? Feeling the “recovery” yet?
I’m not sure why you’re insisting on blowing smoke there, but it’s really not doing anything for me Biden.

Promises? Not really. The bills passed did far too little, and caved to the special interests. He did nothing for most Americans, and absolutely nothing for the middle class.
Biden has demonstrated some absolutely poor behavior, for a Vice-President of the US. I consider him a total embarrassment.

Bast to Obama: **** ***!
Obama:” Health care is a right.”
Yeh, right.

. After the most disappointing president in several decades (I didn’t say “worst,” just disappointing), we are again being asked to pick the lesser of two evils.
If the Dems win in 2010, they will lose in 2012. By then, things will be much worse, and Obama will be unelectable. Moreover, no viable progressive/independent third party will have yet been formed. Think Weimar, 1932.
The writing’s on the wall. If we want to give the nuclear access codes to someone like Palin, we’ll vote Democrat in 2010.
Otherwise, we make a bank shot, hoping that things will favor the creation of a viable progressive/ independent party (Naomi Klein’s call) in 2012.
Obama will veto the worst of any Republican legislation in the next two years.
I’d call for the burning of one million ballots from Biden’s “whiny base.” Let it occ ur on TV.
That would be an incontrovertible message to the Democratic Party and the lobbyist-owned DNC behind it.

“mdgr”…Biden is correct. There are only two choices. The formation of a “third party” is a pipe dream and will never happen. And if you are a middle class person or moderate or educated independent…you have one and only one choice. The Democrats. Unless you want the GOP (lap dogs of the rich) or the tea partiers (lap dogs of the dumbed down base) taking control and sending us back to the failed policies of the past.

CND FOX:
“Lesser of two evils” has ALWAYS been the two-party talking point, and Obama has been the most dramatic example yet not just on how it doesn’t work, but of the fact that both parties are inextricably joined at the hip. “Biden is correct” only for those who wish to continue that codependent game. I, frankly, do not.
For those who say a third party can’t be formed, review your history. This is not just an unprecedented time, but a major third party (Tea Party) just formed and is in some places displacing Republicans. Perot captured 19% of the vote previously. Finally, major voices such as Naomi Klein are calling for precisely that — a monster third party of progressives, indies and disaffected Dems.
The Democratic Party is well funded, however, and it has been known to pay people to reiterate the same old talking points about the “goodness” of the lesser of two evils, and the notion that we need to keep playing the game because resistance is futile.
Obama, however, is a fraud. So is Pelosi (voted for every war budget Bush ever proposed) and Reid. The entire Democratic Party is, and it is collapsing. I have voted Dem all my life, but never again. If took Obama to irrevocably alienate its “whiny base,” but in the end it occurred.
I still think a public bonfire of 1 million ballots on television would be very helpful in persuading progressive Democratic legislators to resign from that party, a la Bernie Sanders. It could be a media tour de force.
One could get duplicate ballots if they liked and still vote for a few initiatives that they cared about, etc. No one would be the wiser.

Looks as if the rats are jumping ship. All those promises from the annointed one, and he can’t with a straight face say he accomplished a thing except to raise unemployment, raise the deficit, and pass money around to his union faithful. No wonder he has Biden telling his base that he has kept his promises. Biden will say anything.

Glad they included the Dem fundraiser at Stoneyfield Farm info.. no need to buy that anymore.

Ryan C. condescendingly suggested he had breaking news. Not sure anything intelligible actually was actually transmitted, however.
For the record, this has nothing to do with Nader. And if Ryan took a remedial course in reading, he might see that I was NOT suggesting the “one” of the two party options was a viable way out.
What I was doing is pointing to the need for a strategic decision. Obama probably can, for two years, veto the worst of what the Republicans will try to impose. In firing Summers and Emanuel, Obama is “playing” to his base, though he also knows he will continue to serve Wall Street rather than Main Street. The point is that nothing will change by reelecting Pelosi and Reid, and nothing will change if the Dems lose both chambers of Congress.
What is necessary is for the public to blame both parties equally in 2012, and for a vacuum to be created. Naomi Klein is no slouch on strategy, and no slouch on reality. She is calling for precisely the kind of VIABLE 3rd party that I refer to, one that could capture a plurality of votes in 2012.
It will probably be the only way to stop the Tea Party in 2012 since the wheels are already coming off the two party system.

LongT asks a good question. That’s the Republican strategy.
I don’t think it will play in Peoria, however. People would so much be voting Republican as voting against the Dems. Two years is a very long time, and we’re going over the falls at a very fast clip. People will be angry in 2012, and I doubt very much that they will blame Obama anymore than the Republicans or Dems.
A vacuum will be created, not unlike that time in the Weimar, 1932. Cities will not be able to fund essential services like police, and there will be a huge demand for law and order, not to mention food.
The Tea Party will, I suspect, be formidable, or else the GOP will have absorbed it (it already is doing that) and move even further to the right. In any event, the Christo-fascists will have arrived.
The Dems, however, are likely to be despised. They have no street credibility, and the GOP controls the narrative. It defines them far more effectively than they define themselves.
Nature is said to abhor a vacuum. If the Dems are crushed in 2010, there is the distinct possibility that some people in that party will call for call for a major third party. If progressive legislators resign from this tainted DNC-party and lend their support to a third party, it can also attract funding.
I am not holding my breath or saying it is likely. I’m saying that unless we look at this as a game of chess and look forward to 2012 instead of 2010, we will almost certainly see a government that is far to the right of anything offer us by Bush/Cheney.
And then there is that “small” matter of the transfer of nuclear codes. I am not suggesting that people should be fearful, merely that they think about what is finally at stake.

You have to wonder: is the lack of press coverage of the Obama administration’s repression of the left and the anti-war movement intentional?
Why is the press so willing to act as the propaganda wing of the state? I do mean state – as it did the same under Bush as it does under Obama.

I am not holding my breath or saying it is likely. I’m saying that unless we look at this as a game of chess and look forward to 2012 instead of 2010, we will almost certainly see a government that is far to the right of anything offer us by Bush/Cheney.
Posted by: mdgr | Sep 27, 2010 8:04:02 PM
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Here’s a news flash: The Clinton adminstration was far to the right of Bush/Cheney. How quickly we forget.

…He may not have gotten us to some healthcare nirvana (single payer of kind: Canadian, British or German),…
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What are you smoking? Healthcare nirvana?

Posted by: No More Liberal Lies | Sep 27, 2010 10:41:35 PM
Aha! So you’re cutting and pasting your set of lies. Your word is not to be trusted.

Joe Biden, you want me to stop whining? I want you and your cronies to stop begging for my money!

Joe Biden, you want me to stop whining? I want you and your cronies to stop begging for my money!
Posted by: Stanley Hetz | Sep 28, 2010 1:10:36 AM
Hey Stan, pay attention. The ‘stimulus’ bill had $288 BILLION dollars in tax breaks. The Democrats CUT your taxes. They cut taxes for over 90% of Americans and businesses.

You’ll get my reply in November when I go to the voting booth, Joe.

Hey Stan, pay attention. The ‘stimulus’ bill had $288 BILLION dollars in tax breaks. The Democrats CUT your taxes. They cut taxes for over 90% of Americans and businesses.
Stan
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Stan – those 288 billions ARE NOT tax cuts – they were bribes for the riff-raff which never ever payed any taxes. And the people which DO pay taxes will have to pay for all those billions plus many more billions interests.

some people are drinking the koolaid again. if you don’t have any real information about policies then just start name calling. typical liberal game plan.

“I never understand why they had Colbert testify when Joe was available. ”
Biden was not available at the time. He was being interviewed by the UN as a candidate for Earth’s spokesperson to galactic aliens..

Stan really does need to pay attention and stop merely repeating Democrat Party drivel. STAN! Since only 47% of American households now pay taxes…what “90% of Americans” did Barry give tax cuts to???? I know Barry made that claim over and over on the campaign trail. But come on, guy, think for yourself. It is amazing how bad at math Democrats are.

That’s right Biden, only Obama is allowed to whine.

At what point will this President realize the majority of the populace didn’t want and still doesn’t want the health care reform bill that passed? He keeps heralding it without the slighest idea that it is a Looser! His own budget office says it will cost more but he turns a deaf ear and smiles at those who tell him so. As for Joey…I love how you’ve represented the middle class in DC…we’ve seen so much benefit from your efforts on our behalf. How about you go back on the road and search for some more stimulus signs?

And by not voting, you are doing exactly what the republican party wants. I even went that way a while back but I am a fighter and these liars are not going to take over congress like they are sliding into place with vaseline. This just shows you, you show no responsiblity with you complacent non-actions. Your are too lazy to fight, to vote, to work for what WE need. Stop and think how the republican party will finish off this country that they started under Bush. You think big business is bad now? Just wait and you will not be allowed to whine as you did it by not voting. Do you not know the word RESPONSIBILITY????? Look it up. WE are responsible for our country, our government, our citizens, our kids. Damn it, stay home cause you really will deserve what you didn’t work for. It will be your fault. Grow up, whiners and get off the couch and pity pot.

There are more than two choices on the ballot, Kate. I’m going third party all the way this time. Given the fact that the democrats have failed to deliver on change there is no reason to vote for them again.

“These washington Marxist cut taxis by 90 percent?”
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It must have been tax cuts for the eighty percent that are out of jobs.
The big ligitimte businessess are barely holding on. The owner of home depot, says the health care bill will
put him out of bussiness, and he can hardly stand to lay 600,000 people off work.
He started out 24/7 family working to get going. Hardly a greedy ‘big business’ demo quote, we need to punish for hireing people. Carrer politicians have no clue. vote Tea Party, They work, have knowledge of the real world, and want to preserve Americaa before it is taken over by the NWO and there death camps.