Axelrod to US Chamber: What Are You Hiding That You Don’t Want the American People to See?

It is so ironic this controversy was ginned up by websites that do not disclose their funding.
Are ads the only way to influence elections? I think not.

Fine and dandy David. How about Obama disclose where all his 2008 campaign donations came from then? Where’s all the cash coming from that the unions use (like the SEIU) to back Democrat candidates? What about George Soros? The Democrats are just upset because the Republicans are finally figuring out how to play like them.

He’s gone from Transnational President Of The Whole World to xenophobic demogogue in 20 months.

Right and they have a point there. We tried to pass a law in the Congress — every Democrat in the Senate voted for it, every Republican in the Senate voted against it — that said everyone has to disclose.
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FWIW, the DISCLOSE act did not require everyone to disclose, but instead exempted large organizations that met certain requirements.
Even the ACLU urged a “no” vote on the DISCLOSE act, saying:
“Our Constitution embraces public discussion of matters that are important to our nation’s future, and it respects the right of individuals to support those conversations without being exposed to unnecessary risks of harassment or embarrassment. Only reforms that promote speech, rather than limit it, and apply evenhandedly, rather than selectively, will bring positive change to our elections.”

Axelrod is an idiot. This would be like the TSA subjecting all air travelers to strip searches “just in case they’re hiding something.” In other words, assuming everyone is guilty and making them prove they’re innocent–the opposite of our legal system.
Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

Jake, that was a great interview! I laughed so hard when you called him out on the ‘long form’… thanks for being so different and better than all the others.

How about a deal. Obama releases hid college records and long form Birth Certificate, and the Republicans agree to a new law mandating transparency for ALL political contributions.

Part of your generation in fact. LOL!
Posted by: Mary |
Okay, so you just have a last century attitude. Thanks for the information though. LOL!

I’m sure that Axelrod feels the same about his UNION cronies who were to be exempted from the DISCLOSE Act unlike the Chamber of Commerce and others that Axelrod refers to.
The Obama Administration is rotten to the core.
And that last part of the interview and brining up the long form BC is priceless…..thanks for that, Tapper!!!

Oh….and just for the record….Axelrod is engaging in the very tactic that nondisclosure of these donors is trying to avoid…..attacks by politicians in an effort to pressure the donors into not being active in the political process.
Non-disclosure is there to protect the donor from corrupt politicians like Axelrod and Obama!

“It’s unclear how well he did as an undergraduate, although he was not a distinguished student. Obama refuses to release his transcript from his undergraduate years. According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Obama was not well-known among classmates after he transferred to Columbia University from Occidental College in the early 1980s. The article quotes a former roommate who states that Obama’s performance improved after he stopped taking drugs (which Obama has admitted to openly). Since Obama did not graduate with honors, that means his GPA was between a 2.0 and a 3.3 — although, since he was admitted to Harvard Law School, it’s hard to imagine his GPA was much lower than a 3.3.”

Axelrod’s strength is his ability to read character:
In 2004, Axelrod worked for John Edwards’ presidential campaign. During the campaign, he lost responsibility for making ads, but continued as the campaign’s spokesman. Regarding Edwards’ failed 2004 presidential campaign, Axelrod has commented, “I have a whole lot of respect for John, but at some point the candidate has to close the deal and — I can’t tell you why — that never happened with John.”
Gee, David, maybe the fact that he was a complete phony is why it never happened. Maybe American voters are smarter than you give them credit.

Axelrod is blowing smoke. The only way for Obama to avoid public scrutiny is to create a distraction.
It isn’t working.
It’s hard to distract American workers who are unemployed because of the business killing policies of this administration.

BP would be another prime suspect. They probably remember how easy Bush Sr made it for Exxon after the Valdez accident.

Skip is following the Obama lead: make an outrageous and false charge for which you have no evidence, then demand that the victim disprove it.
The fact is that the Chamber (like the Sierra Club) has foreign affiliates that pay annual dues. In the cas of the Chamber, those dues constitute one twentieth of one percent of its annual budget. That money, by law, segregated from money used for political advocacy.
This is McCarthyism.

Nobody is REQUIRED to do anything just to shut David Axelrod up. Obama never reconciled all his anonymous donors.

Obama took something like $400 million in donations from people and organizations that have not been identified to this day.
Even the New York Times is repulsed by this false smear.

Way to go Jake, on the birth certificate question! I’ve been saying that for 18 hours… And I happen to believe Obama was born here. But fair, is definitely fair. Is there video?

He’s like the young person with not much real experience who goes to work at a non-profit without realizing that it is profit that allows the non-profit to exist. He simply has no clue how things really work. Barry has never worked a day in his blessed life, what is so shocking about his attitudes…

McCarthyism is alive and well in the era of Hopenchange.
Great questioning by Jake, the following exchange was especially precious:
TAPPER: Isn’t that like the whackjobs that tell the president he needs to show them his full long-form birth certificate so he can put to rest the questions that have been raised?
AXELROD: The president’s birth certificate has been available to people.
TAPPER: The long form?
Excellent. No response from Axe…

Perhaps the Obama Apologists can explain the following:
Donations from Foreign-Connected Political Actions Committees for 2010 Election Cycle:
To Democrats: $6,517,903
To Republicans: $5,581,701
Source: Opensecrets.org
Where is this money coming from Democrats?
Those who live in glass houses…

What about all the US taxpayer money that went to Kenya to try to influence the vote over a constitutional change? And what about Barry himself, US senator going to Kenya to help his favorite candidates’ campaign? So hypocritical.

Obama and Axelrod are once again using Saul Alinsky’s Rule #13 (from Rules for Radicals): “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” They regularly use this rule to attack anyone who dares to express any dissent, including private citizens.

Posted by: Skip | Oct 11, 2010 10:15:17 PM
First of all, no President in our lifetime has attacked private citizens and organizations more than Obama. That isn’t even debatable.
The US Chamber of Commerce story is a phony issue. You’ve been duped. Again.
Eric Lichtblau reported in the New York Times that “there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual. They do get money from foreign Chambers of Commerce but it’s a very small amount and entirely separate from the campaign spend. But look at this. If you look at the issue of foreign money, actually, U.S. subsidiaries of foreign companies are under campaign law allowed to operate political action committees and in the past year, in the past election cycle, they’ve given more than $12 million. So there is some, let’s call it foreign-connected money, if not actually foreign money that’s involved in this campaign cycle.”
And CNBC Washington correspondent Eamon Javers stated, “Well, we’ve got about 160 of these PACs. Interestingly here, President Obama might want to look up the statistics because they’re favoring Democrats. More than $6 million has gone to Democrats and more than $5 million has gone to Republicans from those subsidiaries – subsidiaries of foreign companies. So clearly that group favoring the Democrats by a pretty healthy margin.”
Oops! But there’s more.
During his campaign, Obama collected $233 million of campaign contributions whose origin was never traced, though at least one analyst at the FEC suspected a significant portion came from foreign sources.

Axelrod makes sense in places. So, if Obama doesn’t have anything to hide, why not show us the long form birth certificate? 57% of Americans are no longer convinced Obama was born in the US> We are already in a crisis of confidence. Officers in the military are refusing to obey orders because Obama has not shown his birth certificate. People are being court martialed. War heroes are having their careers ruined because Obama has not shown his birth certificate.
It is time to stop ridiculing the birthers and start demanding to see the long form birth certificate!

For Axelrod, President Obama, and the Democrats in charge, it’s “transparency for thee, but not for me”. Yes, transparency would be nice…in fact, it’s what these people ran on in 2008. But once elected, they didn’t give a flip. All of the meetings on Stimulus and Health Care were done in secret with their 3rd party groups like Apollo Alliance, Unions, etc. So, please DON”T talk about transparency. The C of C is pro-business, so of course this administration hates them!

Posted by: Skip | Oct 11, 2010 10:47:05 PM
Skip, I don’t know why you bring up such a lame argument that even a 5th grader wouldn’t attempt. Mary said it wasn’t debatable and that means it isn’t debatable.
Obama has attacked more private citizens and organizations than any other President. File that under Truth.

“Officers in the military are refusing to obey orders because Obama has not shown his birth certificate”
How many? 2 or 3 unfortunates out of hundreds of thousands? I would call that insignificant. And don’t try and make victims out of these fools, they were quite adequately warned that they don’t have a legal leg to stand on.

This coming from a guy who is funded by NGO’s and multinational organizations all around the world! To quote John Stossel: “Give Me a Break!”

Provide proof because I have plenty of Obama doing it.
Posted by: Mary | Oct 11, 2010 11:01:21 PM
Let’s see it. Sounds like a bald-faced lie to me. Quote in context, date, source.

“Mary said it wasn’t debatable and that means it isn’t debatable”
Your confidence in Mary always being right is touching in a way Noz, however as for myself I’m not ready to delegate parental authority to her just yet.
See after Kerry got swiftboated Democratic strategists decided to respond strongly and directly to any future right-wing propaganda and this is I’m sure what the attacks are that Mary is referring to. Republicans in office are content to allow the right-wing smear machine do their dirty work for them. In fact guys like Rush Limbaugh make a living doing precisely that.

Wow, the stench of desperation coming from obama’s inner circle as the election draws near is overwhelming. If they will stoop to this sort of McCarthyism now, what on earth will they do to try to save their administration in the 2012 reelection bid? the mind boggles.

Lots of right-wingers are saying the McCarthyism thing now…..so where did all the parrots hear it? Beck?

Lots of right-wingers are saying the McCarthyism thing now…..so where did all the parrots hear it? Beck?
Posted by: Skip | Oct 12, 2010 12:00:33 AM
Kinda funny given they’re the ones that have been in Red Scare mode since the general election.
But speaking of McCarthy– sorta– Kevin McCarthy, another GOP “Young Gun” (not the one who dresses up as a Nazi) and one of the “geniuses” behind the vacant Republican “Pledge to America” was pressed to name one– just one– program he’d cut from the federal budget to reduce spending. He couldn’t. He dodged the question, and then came up with the embarrassing statement: “the line item would be across-the-board.”
Most Republicans have been unable to name any programs they would cut to reduce the deficit. They call themselves fiscal conservatives but they’re just reactionaries.

In 2008, the Democrats refused to disclose!!! Obama received contributions totalling almost a billion dollars!
Maybe the “unidentifiable” donations explains all of Obama’s bowing to foreign leaders.
This is the most corrupt administration in American history.
We need to replace the lying liberals and take our country back.

Ok Barry you want to see were the money is coming from?
Here’s the deal.
You show me yours I’ll show you mine.
“YOURS” would be your long form birth certificate and ALL of you school records plus transcripts and grades from grade school to present.
What?
Oh I forgot, you got in through affirmative action.

Wow! Real Journalism by ABC….Congrats….unfortunately…rules do not apply to Dems

Heck, no one remembers but obama during the election was pounding in over 600 million dollars in campaign contributions and setting records… there has been questions floating around for over 2 years now about where it all came from, and that a number of muslim nations funneled money into his campaign. I think if were going to question where campaign money is coming from, the most logical place to start scrutinizing is right at the TOP.

Democrats should not be throwing stones on this topic. The only thing they are accomplishing is to remind the public about the questions that were raised about Obama’s fundraising in 2008.

Could this be the return of REAL journalism??? If so, please do an article on NY State refusing to comply with the MOVE act and thereby denying our soldiers overseas the right to vote..

The posts on this story…on an ABC site, not Fox News…speaks volumes about where the American people are on this Administration. We are fed up with their lies, distortions and outright failure to do anything to help the economy or provide jobs. The Republicans will have a hard time doing better, but one thing they can do, which has worked in the past, is lower taxes on all individuals and businesses who, after all, are the ones who provide jobs.

I LOL’ed reading that exchange.

Hey Axelrod, since your boy said he was born at Kapiolani hospital the same time period as the Nordyke twins why doesn’t his birth certificate have a doctor’s signature and hospital of birth like theirs? Try to spin that FIB!

Tapper couldn’t follow up on the long form question. He would have lost his job. In fact, I am pretty sure he had his knucles rapped by the ABC headmistress for bringing the topic up in the first place. Trust me, it won’t happen again.

You show me yours I’ll show you mine.
“YOURS” would be your long form birth certificate and ALL of you school records plus transcripts and grades from grade school to present.
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Well yours should be worth a guffaw.
To all the reasonable folks out there, read these comments and think about it. If these enthused and rabid crazy con voters win, everybody loses.
They don’t have a single good idea.

Mr. Axelrod: Thank you for clearing up that birth certificate thingy. We knew he had something to hide and you just confirmed it. Now fess up – did Barry really graduate from anything? Well, prove it, stupid. For some reason a million dollars has been spent keeping that information from us.

If you think the MSM looks bad now wait until Obama’s birth certificate issue goes to court and it will be acknowledged that they covered for him. Then the American people will be rid of the so called MSM, the Democrat Party and Obama and his minions!

And it sure looks like he does. Obama is the only president who has suppressed vital personal information; every other has made full disclosure. When the press raised a fuss about John McCain’s birth particulars – since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone – he immediately released all his actual documents, thousands of pages worth, including those showing that he was a natural-born American citizen, as per the United States Code [8 U.S.C. 1403 (a)]. Obama did not follow suit, and the media let him off the hook. The document released online is not an authentic birth certificate. It is the “short form” affidavit, a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) with standard information left out, such as the actual name of the birth hospital and the name of the attending physician. In “Dreams from My Father,” Obama mentions having found his birth certificate, which, as it turns out, was then conveniently lost in a small house fire. Nor would the two announcements in Honolulu newspapers confirming his birth constitute proof of American citizenship or be accepted as such in a court of law, for obvious reasons.

Axel, I agree totally about transperencey-you and Obama go first, lets see where all that foreign money came for his election as well as his long form birth certificate!!!!!

Even if we refrain from coming to unequivocal conclusions on this file, it seems almost certain that his records must contain damaging information that could bring his presidency into serious, if not terminal disrepute. How else would one explain the fact that his university transcripts and his records as an Illinois state legislator, like his “long-form” birth certificate, are inaccessible and that Obama has hired a team of lawyers to make sure they remain that way? This behavior is completely unprecedented in POTUS annals, and he should be duly challenged on it. Requiring Obama to open his dossier is not a sign of conspiratorial suspicions; it is quite simply a civil responsibility and the most reasonable of demands since this is precisely what all U.S. presidents should do and have done. Shirking this responsibility, however, is largely a symptom of either moral cowardice or false propriety, irrespective of how it may be embroidered for public consumption or self-protection. Of course, there are some who demur out of a sense of fundamental decency which, we might note, goes unreciprocated by the president and his team.

What about Obama’s qualifications and experience led people to expect any better from him?
He was brought up by grandparents who were socialists, his mentor as a child, Frank Marshall Davis, was an extreme socialist, he was steeped in Marxist-oriented black liberation theology by Rev. Wright in Chicago, his political colleagues were extreme Palestinian radicals like Rashid Khalidi, unrepentant domestic terrorists like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and thugs like Tony Rezko. He was considered the most liberal member of the Senate. He had never authored a single bill as a Senator. He was very partisan and never reached across the aisle. He had a well know reputation of using people and then throwing them under the bus if they became inconvenient.
Obama as a viable candidate was a myth created by his own brazen lies and those of the mainstream media as well as the blogosphere exemplified by the collusion we have seen with the Journolist scandals.

Obama, Sr. was a Kenyan citizen. Therefore, his son was not, is not, and never will be a “natural born” citizen. That FACT disqualifies him from ever becoming President of the United States. He is in there illegally and should be removed from “office”.

• “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States .”¬ George Soros
In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama’s win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.
Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA.
And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e.g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influence most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro’s NEMESIS.
As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

Did anyone miss it? The presidential election ended in November 2008. Get over it birthers, you lost. You whine more than the left that says Bush stole the election in 2000, yet, Democrats congratulated Bush and moved on and tackled the challenges facing the country. Being a sore loser is pathetic, being a sore loser in power is a danger to both parties.

C,the problem is that Obama has not released the long-form,nor any significant education,travel or health records.Two years after the election and still this obfuscation is brought up by of all people a MSM journalist.It is not going to go away until Obama just does the simple thing-the fact that he doesn’t implies that something is wrong with the meme; to this day there has not been a single credible excuse as to why he hasn’t released the information.Why?

“They [The Chamber of Commerce] can put this to rest,” said Joshua Earnest, a White House spokesman. “They have the keys to the file cabinet.”
Isn’t this the essence of “Birtherism” ??

George Soros is a tremendously wealthy man who made alot more money in the 2008 crash. It was the Far Left and Fannie Mae who imposed lowering banking standards…and Soros has been reaping the profits from the crash.
Soros wants to run the world. Let him be the first to share his ill-gotten wealth with the poor, the hypocrite…He cares nothing for our poor who were duped into purchasing homes they could not afford…many of them minorities.
The minorities in our country are being duped again to gain Far Left votes.
George Soros — stop meddling with our country. Get out….and stay out. You intend only economic destruction on America…shame…what has the country of your origins done for the world???

• Even if he was born in the White House, his father was an alien, therefore Obama, Soetoto, or whatever his name is– is NOT a NATURAL BORN citizen(not the same as native born or naturalized).
There is also some serious doubt that he was even born in the USA.
Don’t forget that he has used 16 Social Security numbers, including 042-68-4425 (Google it!), the one he gets paid with in the White House, which was issued to a man born in Connecticut in 1890!
Add to that a phony Selective Service registration, possible hidden disbarment from the Illinois Bar, election fraud, and other things, adding up to enough felonies to keep in locked up for a long, long time.

As a small businessman I think this is the worst economy we have seen since the Carter years of double digit interest rates and run-a-way inflation. I also believe it is going to get worse before it gets better. Am I angry? You are darn right I am. The is the richest Nation on earth and we are suffering only because of the huge amount of debt our government has laid upon us. There is no reason that we as taxpayers should have to pay for every damn welfare program known to man, including the financing of such Marxist organizations as the United Nations, Council of Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, and others; the giving of vast amounts of foreign aid to Muslim countries such as Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey; the propping up of despondent countries such as Mexico; all who secretly hate us. And finally, there is no reason we should subsidize billions of dollars in incentives for Unions, Special Interest Groups and Multi-National Companies just so they can rape our country of assets, money and wealth. We have a bunch of gutless elites in Washington that site on their fat asses and sip tea or cognac while the country goes down the drain. Their attitude is one of, “well, we don’t care, we are not suffering.” It is do disgusting I am surprised we don’t have a true rebellion and civil war by now. Maybe we just haven’t gotten that far yet?

I’m certain that with the shady things Axelrod has been saying, he’s been cheating on his wife. It’s up to him to come forward and disclose where he goes every night and every phone call he makes, so he can prove that he’s not a cheating scumbag.
This game is fun!

As a good faith starting point Axelrod and the President could release the source of the millions of dollars in contributions to their 2008 campaign that has long been questioned and unreported. Someone as slimy as Axelrod should not be allowed near the White House.

Let’s see, what could have gone wrong, total lack of transparency, numerous lies, apologizing to anyone who would listen, unaccountable Czars, government takeover of automobile industry, abject favoritism toward unions, security issues, terrorist trials in NYC, ACORN, Eric Holder’s incompetence, attempted takeover of healthcare system despite wishes of the citizens, and a total narcissitic attitude for one year. Failure to take responsibility for own actions, blaming Bush/Chaney at every turn.
Can’t imagine why the wheels are coming off.
Perhaps it boils down to the fact that deep down people do not trust or respect a liar.

I’ll show you mine if you show me yours Axelrod……Sheeezzz…That all you got, EMPTY WORDS….You guys REALLY ARE DESPERATE…Thankfully the voters this time around are not falling for it…….

No way! ABC asks where’s the birth certificate? The wheels really are coming off the bus. That’s it Jake, no more interviews for you.

There is no question of “proving a negative” here, and to say so is to purposely mislead your readers.
Despite the Chamber’s “non-denial denials”, he following facts have not been refuted:
1) The Chamber acknowledges that it receives foreign sources of funding.
2) The foreign funds go directly into the Chamber’s general 501(c)(6) entity.
3) At least $300,000 has been channeled from foreign companies in India and Bahrain to the account.
4) The foreign sources include foreign state-owned companies, including the State Bank of India and the Bahrain Petroleum Company.
5) The Chamber’s 501(c)(6) entity is used to launch an unprecedented $75 million partisan attack ad campaign against Democrats.

Axelrod’s pathetic.. If he’s making these charges then he needs to provide the proof!~! He’s the one hiding. Please pny up the donor list from Obama Campaign and show the chamber your good faith. Ha Ha Ha

I can think of one reason why the Chamber may not want to disclose…partisan hacks take that information and pillory corporations or an organizations or individuals that may have contributed. We’ve see that here in Minnesota when Democrats and “whack-job” activists proposed boycotting Target stores because Target gave a donation to support Emmer for Gov of Minnesota.

There are many serious questions about Mr. Obama’s background. Some day the truth will emerge. I’m betting that it will cause a constitutional crisis.

I don’t understand how the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wouldn’t want to be honest about its large contributors?
It is scary that since the recent Supreme Court decision on the subject, corporations, even foreign ones, will be able to influence our elections. The idea that a huge corporation, whether ours or international, should be free to determine who is elected to make our laws is criminal.

This entire fiasco is a Straw Man and a Red Herring to keep the focus OFF this administrations miserable performance during their almost 2 MISERABLE years in office. Millions of people are unemployed and over 40 MILLION ARE ON FOODSTAMPS while they have pushed ObamaCare and Cap and Tax and Card Check!! They have WASTED a couple TRILLION dollars on wealth redistribution instead of focusing on JOBS AND THE ECONOMY. They are going to pay, big time, in 3 weeks!! The Tsunami is coming!

It would be nice if those mentioning McCarthyism had a clue that Sen Joe McCarthy was working with a list developed by the FBI, which was substantiated by our government on July 30, 1953, when it published a report entitled Interlocking Subversion In Government Departments.
However, media subversives like Arthur Miller and Richard Rovere ran a smear campaign which was much more successful than Sen Joe’s efforts to rid our government of subversives like those who populate the current administration.

Way to dodge the question about the long-form birth certificate, Axelnimrod.

Jake, you should have pressed him further about the birth certificate.
When Robert Gibbs was asked about it by the WND reporter in a WH Press Briefing, the video shows you leaving that briefing and I don’t recall you writing about it.
What is Obama hiding and why?

When you see WAPO, The Times, The Globe, The Inquirer(Phila), The Sun actually calling this Axel-Bama charge absurd and in fact, it is Dems who not only get more special interest donations but foreign ones too. What horrors these lying socialists are. Odd that they go back to the old smear,lie, vote cheating playbook when they have no policies or issues on which to campaign.Time to sweep these Dems out in local, state Leg., guv as well as Congressional races. They just cannot be trusted. BTW,did not the rats leave this Bama ship: Rahm, Axel, Jones, Orzag et al. Why is that???

Read The Obama Timeline. It has all the evidence needed to deport the thug-in-chief to Indonesia.

If Obama is so worried about transparency, why not reveal the sources of all of his campaign contributions? It’s not REQUIRED, but he didn’t reveal as much information as the McCain campaign did.

Cujat13,
You are mistaken regarding the amount of union spending. The amount that the Chamber is spending is much more, and business spends ten times what unions do. Get your facts straight.
The Chamber admitted that it takes in foreign money, and admitted that it goes into the fund that pays for the political ads. Get your facts straight. They claim that they have unspecified “controls” that insure foreign money isn’t used, but refuse to state how.
The Chamber of Commerce represents the oil industry, the finance industry, and real estate interests. While many small businesses my join, they in fact represent the economic elite. They are a very radical right wing organization.

I don’t care where the Chamber got the money. I care that numerous muslim and communist countries gave to obama in 2008, that is what matters to most American’s!!!!!!!!! Having this debate is backfiring on the dems as they are caught being hypocritical as usual!!!!

Flash,
Now who’s the one lying? The chamber never said their foreign membership dues are used for campaign purposes. They said the exact opposite, actually, in their editorial in the NYTimes on 10/6/10.

These people wouldn’t believe the President was born in the USA even if the entire birth was on tape!! This is so crazy it is sad. He’s President, get over it and start helping the country move forward or get out way.
“The United States of Idiocracy”.

“Joe McCarthy lives.”
He certainly does. Got a show on at 5 on FoxNews.

A military LTC. Lakin has challenged AKA and is not being given a fair trial according to our constitution.”
No he openly declared he would miss a movement after being ordered to Afghanistan. Then he missed the movement. Poor man must have had some birther chewing his ear pretty hard because only now that has he realized the idiocy of trying to call Obama illegitimate and that he would have “standing” and get “discovery” (the birther holy grail). So he has dumped his birth lawyers in favor or reputable military council.
I imagine they will attempt to spare the man jail time.
The birther lawyer gets his money though.
“He is being held and may go to prision because AKA won’t make any personal known.”
He currently has desk duty at Walter Reed though he certainly may go to prison if found guilty.
Obama could show up tomorrow in court with a video of his birth, birth certificate even his kindergarten records and it would not matter at all as he is not relevant to the proceedings as to whether Lakin missed a movement.
One can read Judge Lind’s ruling and get that.
Birthers not so much.

There is a rumor going around that 0bama is taking antidepressants.

There is an executive order blocking Obama’s birth certificate? good grief what a joke.
Are you people all going to PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE when it is finally revealed Obama WAS born in Kenya?
I hope you have the integrity to do it, but I doubt it, as marxist progressives generally dont. they’re anti-Americans who disdain the Constitution.
I am sick of you people’s lack of intellect.

Hey Axelrod, answer the question! The long-form birth certificate – where is it? It’s nowhere. The COLB on factcheck is a Photoshop fabrication of your own making. It’s a fake! Way to go Jake Tapper, you asked the most important question that exists today. Why aren’t more of your colleagues asking this question? There is no other question that has more importance than this. If Obama can’t prove he is a “natural born Citizen” then we must all assume he is a fraud and not the President.

Lydia wrote:”Isn’t it telling that Repubs blocked legislation to force the disclosure of where funds come from that pay for political ads?”
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Its even more telling that DEMOCRATS have nothing else to run on. Debt, deficit, out of control spending, corruption, oBama’s pathetic poor performance, double-digit unemployment, etc. Who wouldn’t want to change the subject when you can’t even begin to defend the indefensible.

gk, anyone who was conscious at the end of Bush’s last term remembers that is when the economy collapsed.
No sane person could expect the disaster Bush and Republican policies left to be fixed in less than two years. Of course, the economic mess plus two wars would leave us in a deficit situation.
Anyone reading world news see that the banking mess Repubs allowed has affected countries’ economies around the world?
If we learn anything from the economic collapse, it should be that the banking industry should be closely regulated forever, as their greed can take us all down.

It is hilarious and puzzling that the birth certificate question keeps coming up. Folks, the officials from Hawaii have confirmed that his birth certificate is legit and on file there, so has factcheck.org (an unbiased organization)as well as other officials.
Get over it, we have a black President!

Thank goodness that Obama & Congress passed a spending bill that kept another Great Depression at bay.
Thank goodness that they also passed a health care reform bill as 45,000 Americans die each year because they can’t afford it, premiums were rising faster each year with less benefits.
Thank goodness they kept the banks from going under, which would have further ruined the economy, by giving them loans they have almost totally paid back.
Thank goodness they helped bail out hte car companies, saving huge numbers of jobs directly and indirectly.
Thank goodness they stopped banks being middlemen for student loans from the government and price-gouging students.
Thank goodness that we have an administration that is looking out for middle-income and the poor and the small businessmen, as we are in sore need of help after 8 years of a presidency that was all about helping the rich and the big corporations.

Oh Lydia, you sound like a parody – that’s what I actually thought you were at first! But you are serious! Holy gullibility, Batman, we have a moonbat on our hands!

Obama’s short form birth certificate does not fit the official story of birth in the Kapiolani Hospital. The Date Filed indicates August 8, 1961 and the registration number is 10641.
When it is compared with long form birth certificates for Nordyke twins (born in the Kapiolani on August 5, 1961, registration numbers 10637 and 10638) it is easy to spot the problem – Obama’s registration number is higher than Nordykes’ numbers even though his registration was processed three days earlier.
Registration numbers were assigned in the Department of Health office. Nordyke certificates were processed on August 11, 1961. Therefore Obama’s registration number could not have been assigned on August 8.
At that time hospitals reported birth registrations weekly – Kapiolani did it on Fridays. Had Obama been born in the Kapiolani hospital his birth certificate would have been processed on August 11.
Most likely his birth was registered as an unattended birth on August 8, 1961 (by grandmother) and there was not enough evidence to register birth at the time – this was probably done much later on. Registration number 10641 most likely belongs to somebody else.
Hawaii Department of Health refuses to publish birth index data in case when the registration number 10641 is included in the request.
Where is the Long Form birth certificate that would indicate Kapiolani as Obama’s birthplace?

Lydia, a agree totally that the banking industry needs to be regulated.
For years, Republicans raised red flags about Fannie and Freddie’s financial condition and proposed responsible reforms only to be thwarted by Democrats who have deep political ties to the worst offenders. These same powerful Democrats are now pushing for a financial reform bill that doesn’t even address the need to fix these government mortgage companies. As the Wall Street Journal wrote last week, “reforming the financial system without fixing Fannie and Freddie is like declaring a war on terror and ignoring al Qaeda.”
Because of the coverup by dems like Frank, Dodd and even obama himself, the economy collasped!
ps-factcheck.org is a biased liberal site run by the Annenberg company!
Must be nice to live in your liberal world where rationality means nada!!!

Most Presidents are proud of papers, essays, and themes they wrote before any books or attaining office. And yet this ‘so called’ constitutional scholar intentionally withholds all of his writings and much of his Illinois records. We have no proof of his constitutional scholarship. What did he write about as President of the Harvard Law School paper? Yes, hiding/withholding is his right; but, one can only wonder what it is he is hiding.

Mr. Tapper, finally a reporter with some cajones! Keep digging as this is a very volatile issue with a huge following as the public knows we are being lied to by the administration!

Lydia said we aren’t getting information on Obama’s mysterious compaign contributions from reputable sources. I always thought the AP was considered reputable. Oh, well. I guess Lydia only thinks Jon Stewart and Colbert are reputable.

.The plain fact is that Obama has benefited from affirmative action his entire life with few if any real accomplishments due to his own efforts”
And Nephie’s only evidence of this is Obama’s skin color.
He also ignores Obama graduating from Columbia and then Harvard, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard (roughly top 11% of class).
Birthers are much more worried about Obama’s skin color than his paperwork.

I remember when the MSM hounded Bush for his National Guard records, I would think a Birth Certificate would be much more important! We will remember in November who is doing their job in the MSM and Mr. Tapper you are the only one! But why stop now!

The birth certificate posted by the Obama campaign is the short form. If you were to use this form to try and get a driver’s license in Hawaii, you would be denied. It’s not good enough to get you a drivers license, but it’s good enough to qualify you to be president. Show it already! What are you hiding?

“It’s not proving a negative, Jake, because all you have to do to clear up the questions is reveal the birth certificate. The question back to the White House is why don’t they want to reveal the original birth certificate that shows specically where Barack Obama was born and the name of the attending physician?”

“The birth certificate posted by the Obama campaign is the short form. If you were to use this form to try and get a driver’s license in Hawaii, you would be denied”
This is a common birther lie.
The COLB is hawaii’s official birth certificate and has been since 2001.
Its acceptable for driver’s license’s and passports.

To date, President Obama has still not provided simple, incontrovertible proof of his exact birthplace. That information would be included on his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate, which Obama has steadfastly refused to release amid a flurry of conflicting reports.

Let me get this straight Ryan C., since 1982 Hawaii doesn’t allow people born out of state to get the Hawaiian Short Form. Uh, what does this have to do with BHO who’s short form was prior to 1982. Looks like Ryan C., another apparently media addled BHO apologist, flames out and falls to earth.
What I am more interested in is the Occidental University records. Did BHO or did he not go to Occidental on a foreign student scholarship. If he is a naturally born citizen, that would be criminal fraud. The only situations where that would not be a crime is if he was: 1. not a natural born citizen, or 2. renounced his U.S. citizenship. To answer these questions we need to see those Occidental transcripts and enrollment records, right Ryan?

“Let me get this straight Ryan C., since 1982 Hawaii doesn’t allow people born out of state to get the Hawaiian Short Form.”
No.
Since 1982, if you were born out of state from Hawaii you could get a Hawaiian birth certificate.
However this would say where you were born and not magically make you born in Hawaii.
“Did BHO or did he not go to Occidental on a foreign student scholarship.”
ROFLMAO!
You do know that was an April Fool’s Joke right?
Look it up on Snopes.
Its amazing what birthers will dismiss (official records, statement by officials, contemporaneous newspapers accounts, pictures, roommate accounts etc) but will swallow whole hog ANYTHING then demand it be proven wrong and even when proven wrong will still merrily repeat the lie over and over again.

A quick check of the Snopes article shows that a particular email was a hoax. Snopes has a somewhat sordid history of trafficking in credibility gained in other areas to prop up beleaguered left-wing pols. Good old Barbara “the Snope” M. is, after all, just another run of the mill left wing apologist. I know because I have locked horns with her in the past.

Been fun, so long Ryan, and thanks for all the laughs.

I am not the same person as Jeff. But, we’re both thinking the same thing, and it’s clear enough and well-worded:
To date, President Obama has still not provided simple, incontrovertible proof of his exact birthplace. That information would be included on his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate, which Obama has steadfastly refused to release amid a flurry of conflicting reports.
Why? I thought he was “transparent” and a “uniter”. Admit it, he’s hiding something.

WHERE Obama was born is of no consequence. By his own admission, Barak is a dual citizen which is not a “natural born” citizen (of two American parents). This disqualifies Obama from legitimately holding office. The problem is that, because he is half-black, the Congress, nor the courts will enforce his removal from office.

Obviously BHO is hiding something.
He has spent millions of dollars to prevent disclosure of his real birth certificate, instead, hiding behind his computer generated COLB available to anyone who was breathing, regardless of age and birth location.
Unfortunately that is not the only skeleton in BHO’s closet. Based upon translation accounts of his direct relatives in Kenya stating that they were present at his birth in Kenya.
He also attended muslim schools in Indonesia as a child after he changed his name and citizenship status to be an Indonesian, secondary to his mothers new marriage.
He continues this citizenship status, thus enabling his travels to Pakistan as a young adult. These travels Did Occur at a time when American citizens were forbidden to travel to Pakistan. Tell me how did a boy born in Hawaii get into Pakistan at that time?
Also, there seems to be some starnge reason that BHO was issued a Social Security number for someone who lived in Conneticut. When did he ever hold residence there at the time it was siisued?
I do not know the answers. What I do know is that there are MANY inconsistencies in the BHO timeline, combined with BHO’s obvious attempts to hide the truth. Umm, lack of transparency?
I was humored by Axlerods morose attempt at evading the last question above.
Classic BHO, change the subject and blame someone else.
Thanks BO you’ve had your ride. Now it’s time for the end of your ride.
Enough is enough. Remember, your BO is not synonymous with BS or is it?

“These travels Did Occur at a time when American citizens were forbidden to travel to Pakistan.”
There has never been travel ban to Pakistan.

“He also attended muslim schools in Indonesia as a child after he changed his name and citizenship status to be an Indonesian, secondary to his mothers new marriage.”
Huh?
Obama went to a public school, that Insight Magazine nonsense was the first right wing lie debunked about Obama.

In Case you folks don’t know it but Snopes is run by left wingers so I won’t believe anything they have to say.
Oops I had said right wingers but meant the left.

Forget it Jake. You’ll never get a straight answer out of this guy who is a representation of what this destructive administration is all about. obama will go down in history as the most destructive and divisive person to have ever sat in the wh.

Ryan C, you are wrong as always, batting 0 like your hero! Below is a refernce about Vattel and how the founding father’s refered to him.
Also Ryan my boy, if you are so sure of yourself then you should be begging obama to take this to court to prove you right! But he won’t and he now has our Justice Dept doing his dirty work for him at our expense.
Ryan, We know that AKA claims he was a dual citizen at birth, of both U.S. and British citizenship which became Kenyan citizenship when Kenyan became independent of Great Britain. Of course, dual citizenship precludes his eligibility to the office of president of the United States under Article II, Section I, Clause 5, United States constitution, requiring he be “natural born”. This clause was used by the Founding Fathers in reference to Vattel’s Law of Nations, Part I, Chapter 19, Section 212, which states:
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Ryan, time to stop hitting the bong!!!!

All of this, of course, raises the specter of who registered his birth in Hawaii and where was he actually born. We know that no hospital in Hawaii has claimed title to his birth, not even the hospital where he now contends he was born, Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. Only inspection of the actual birth document, the one that AKA has but refuses to provide for inspection, will reveal the facts.
Then there are the social security numbers that AKA has used; one issued in Connecticut and one issued in Michigan, neither a state he has ever lived in. These two social security numbers are tied to addresses where AKA is known to have lived in Chicago. True to nature, his mother also used social security numbers that were not hers, one belonging to a western Washington woman who is still living. We know that illegal aliens use social security numbers that are not theirs but that law-abiding American citizens don’t need to.

Like his Occidental records, his Columbia University records have also been sealed. What we know is that no one, graduating the same year as AKA supposedly graduated from Columbia, can remember him, either in their class or in their classes; nor does he appear anywhere in the Columbia University year books. Reverend David Manning claims that the years AKA claims to have spent at Columbia were actually spent working for the CIA in Afghanistan. That Dr Manning has had his life threatened by “government types“, following his voicing of these claims, lends credence to his claims.
Equally so, AKA’s years at Harvard are sketchy with no information forthcoming and his records sealed. Even though he was supposedly the first “black” president of the Harvard Law Review, the articles required of him as president of that prestigious publication don’t seem to exist.

The US Constitution no longer stands as the governing law of this land. Obama’s many unconstitutional policies, Czars, executive orders and statements provide the proof, and the fact that nobody in DC cares whether or not Obama is constitutionally qualified to be president of the United States should send a shiver down the spine of every red blooded American citizen, no matter their partisan agendas.
The people willing to ask the tough questions are deemed crackpots and conspiracy theorists, racists or bigots. But those tough questions should be obvious questions to all Americans and every president should have to answer those questions, no matter race, creed, color or party affiliation.
I fear that those questions will only be answered at the tip of pitch forks and torches one day. Sooner or later, the people will run out of patience with a system built to exclude them. When that day comes, I fear what methods will be employed and whether or not there will be a country left to save by then.

The image posted by Daily KOS is a very high resolution image. It is portrayed as a scan of the original document. That has been challenged and it is well-documented that this image is almost certainly a fake. Also, when the document is analyzed by a freeware product that can detect manipulation, the “signature” detected indicates the document was definitely manipulated using Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh.

Because of the way AKA OBAMA ran his campaign; donations from Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse, donations from illegal foreign sources, and ACORN’s crimes; More than half the voter registrations turned in by ACORN canvassers during the last election were not valid, according to testimony to be presented before a House Judiciary subcommittee, etc, AKA Obama is subject to criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, federal campaign finance laws, and laws against voter registration fraud, according to a memo by Cleta Mitchell, co-chairman of the Republican National Lawyers Association. In spite of all this Congressional Democrats still want ACORN to be eligible for federal money.
This is the first president in history to flout election campaign laws and receive millions from foreign countries (including Gaza), blockbusting stories that broke at Atlas all during the campaign.
“Obama’s overseas (foreign) contributors are making multiple small donations, ostensibly in their own names, over a period of a few days, some under maximum donation allowances, but others are aggregating in excess of the maximums when all added up.”
The contributions had come from over 50 specifically named countries and major cities.
“Thousands of Obama’s foreign donations ended in cents.” U.S. contributors very rarely contribute in anything other than whole dollar amounts, so the reason why contributions would end with anything other than “.00″ would almost always involve foreign currency translation.

Suddenly the dems are concerned about foreign sources of campaign donations ? I remember very well millions raised for the clintons from offshore sources. And how much of the AFLCIO membership is outside the US and do we have an accounting for where those monies have gone this campaign season.
Facts are the dems just want to silence opponents and feel entitled to do so, because they carry within them the hearts and souls of national socialism

Perhaps just as relevant, you should have asked about his plans to rule by executive order after the election and about the FCC planning on taking control of the internet on November 30th without congressional approval.
Why aren’t these issues being covered, Jake?

“On contrare dear Ryan. At least BO has written and stated that he traveled to Pakistan in his early adulthood.”
Yes we know Obama traveled to Pakistan.
But there was no travel ban in place, there has never been one.
There was a travel advisory noting that Americans needed a 30 day visa and that staying longer required checking in with some Pakistani tourist center. Not exactly earth shattering and certainly not a travel ban.
Its just another made up lie by the birthers.

The question about “short form” versus “long form” is not relevent. Because under U.S. law, the form already posted and seen by everyone is considered legal and recognized proof of citizenship. It’s like if my car company claims I didn’t make a payment and requests proof of the canceled check. The bank doesn’t give you the original check anymore. You get a legal digital copy. The car company must, by law, accept that as proof of my canceled check. They can’t come back and say “no, we want to see the original canceled check.” And while you might say “Oh well, tell your bank to give you the original” by law there is no reason I should have to.
What Axelrod is saying is that ALL organizations should be required to disclose. He’s not asking to see the physical checks, just a disclosure of the contributors. A more accurate analogy to the short form versus long form birth certificate would be if Axelrod was requiring not just disclosure, but for the contributors to also explain where THEY got the money to donate in the first place.

Is there a video link for this story?

My bad, I didn’t catch the 1s line. It should be “shouldn’t” not “should”.