White House Acknowledges Some Low Wage Earners Will Have Less Money In Their Pocket Next Year – Today’s Q’s for O’s WH
National Economic Council director Larry Summers and White House senior adviser David Axelrod joined White House press secretary Robert Gibbs at today’s briefing.
As first noted by the New York Times, some low wage earners may be getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop in this tax cut compromise, in the sense that they may have less money in their pocket next year as opposed to this year. That’s because they receive tax credits through the Making Work Pay tax credit, which expires at the end of this year. That tax credit will be replaced by a payroll tax reduction of 2% — and for some low wage earners, the tax credit is bigger than 2% of their income.
TAPPER: I was wondering if you could comment on the New York Times report today that those at the — at the lower end of the economic spectrum will actually be the only ones with less money in their pocket as a result of this deal because of the Making Work Pay elimination and the…
SUMMERS: It's a good question. It's a very — it's a very good question. You — you have to figure out what comparison you're going to do. It is true that for a $16,000 a year, so that's an all-year minimum wage worker, it is true that the Making Work Pay would have given that — would have given that worker $400, and the — this proposal, the pay roll tax holiday, will give $320. That's — and there is that $80 difference. On the other hand, the proposals, such as the House bill that contained the Making Work Pay, would not have — would not have included any of the three refundable tax credits that I mentioned, which, cumulatively, for that family, on average are worth several hundred dollars.
Obviously, it depends on how many kids the family has and what the situation is, but on average would work out to about $300 for such a family. One. Two, would not have included the continuation of unemployment insurance benefits, which provide $300 a week in benefits. And, three, takes no account of the extra growth increment that will come from this program. If you raise GDP by 1 percent, that's $2,000 for the average family.
So we, as — as I've emphasized, this was a compromise. But if you look cumulatively at the elements that were in this compromise, relative to no deal or even relative to the bill that passed through the House, that $16,000 a year family gets much more support from this bill than it would have — than it would have in its absence. And we believe you have to look at the totality of the program, not just take one provision from it and compare it with one provision in some other bill.
(CROSSTALK)
TAPPER: But, just to be clear, there are those on the lower end of the economic chart who will be — who will not benefit in 2011 compared to 2010 in this deal, while everyone else on the financial spectrum will.
SUMMERS: No. No. That's not right. That's not right. But you just said — what you just said is factually — is — is wrong.
TAPPER: A single person. No family. Doesn't get a child credit. $16,000 a year.
SUMMERS: Right. That person will get $320. That person will get — will — will get $320.
TAPPER: As opposed to $400 this year.
SUMMERS: Right. So there's a person who, if they have — if they don't benefit from the unemployment insurance, if they don't benefit from the economic growth, if they don't benefit from the EITC or the child care or the American Opportunity Credit, might be $80 behind. There's a far larger number of families, however, who will be hundreds, if not thousands of dollars ahead, because of the refundable tax credits, because of the unemployment insurance and because of the growth.
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Oh no! But if we don’t give the wealthiest Americans they’re tax breaks were going to double dip!!!
What a world. What a world. I’m melting.
Posted by: Rufus | December 8, 2010, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Oh no, people who don’t work won’t take home as much money! What to do, what to do?
I have an idea. Get a job or work more hours. We punish the successful and wonder why we don’t have more growth. As George Washington said, we need to make being unproductive as uncomfortable as possible so they wake up and start being responsible for themselves.
Posted by: It's not a "tax cut" if you don't pay taxes | December 8, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Jake,
Look up the numbers. Do you have any idea how many single people with no kids live by themselves and are not dependents on someone else’s taxes, and who also work the minimum wage 40 hours a week for the entire year?
It’s like 4 people in the country. Move on to a real story.
Posted by: It's not a "tax cut" if you don't pay taxes | December 8, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
This “deal” will be bad for most individuals in the long run, as well as disastrous for the country as a whole.
The spending behind it, is simply irresponsible.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 8, 2010, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
What’s that you say, Jake? Obama is not for the poor people? Newsflash, he is not for the AMERICAN people!
Posted by: wheresmymoney | December 8, 2010, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
now, if Summers would have asked me to share a few beers on the deck back not far from his old Haaaavvvvaaaddd stamping grounds, maybe I could have gotten myself in a better condition to understand what it was he was trying to say in reply to your question…….God save us all.
Posted by: justj joey | December 8, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
“White House Acknowledges Some Low Wage Earners Will Have Less Money In Their Pocket Next Year” – ABC News
Except for those alleged aggrieved Black Pseudo-farmers splitting up that 1.15 Billion.
: o )
Nanny State Government is a Grand Thing.
Posted by: Noz | December 8, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
According to the IRS, the 50% of filers who make less than $33K pay less than 3% of all taxes. That’s because of all these stupid kick-backs. Meanwhile the top 10% of filers pay 70% of the taxes. I’m sick of kick-backs for the “poor” so they can wear $100 sneakers while talking on their government-funded cell phones. Flat tax folks … it’s about time the poor paid their fair share.
Posted by: SeeTheLight | December 8, 2010, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Kick backs, kick back, kick backs. Maybe if we gave “the poor” a reason not to be poor, then they might work a little harder. Ya think? Oh wait … then they might not vote for the Democrat party … i.e. the party of handouts.
Posted by: SeeTheLight | December 8, 2010, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Search: “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year”
The middle class is getting a raw deal from the Democrats.
Posted by: Bo, PWD | December 8, 2010, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
when will politicians admit they have put this country in a DEPRESSION and voters wake up …… to them we are only a means to line their pockets
Posted by: senior in poverty | December 8, 2010, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
If the Democrats Pelosi and Reid block passage of it we will all have less in our pockets.
Posted by: earl | December 8, 2010, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
So I see we have gone from putting ‘The Obama Tax Cuts’ in parentheses in order to denigrate their impact, to using them to try to undermine the argument for continuing other tax cuts.
Which is it? Were they tax cuts or not Jake?
And to the ******s who try to argue that the ‘Obama Tax Cuts’ are not really tax cuts because they were temporary, does that also mean that the ‘Bush Tax Cuts’ weren’t tax cuts because they were temporary too?
Posted by: Flash Override | December 8, 2010, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
And to the ******s who try to argue that the ‘Obama Tax Cuts’ are not really tax cuts because they were temporary, does that also mean that the ‘Bush Tax Cuts’ weren’t tax cuts because they were temporary too?
Posted by: Flash Override | Dec 8, 2010 8:04:40 PM
Flash – Perhaps in your hurry to defend The One, you’re thinking is a bit clouded.
The “Obama Tax Cuts” were not “tax cuts”…they were hand-outs given to those who do not pay taxes and to those under defined income levels (they were phased out for higher income earners). More govt. entitlements from “Barack’s Stash”…
Keep trying, OFA appreciates your efforts.
Posted by: tjp612 | December 8, 2010, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Posted by: Noz | Dec 8, 2010 5:17:19 PM
Smells a bit of reparations… Funny how there is next to ZERO reporting on this story… There is a video clip, but no story, no details. Seems a bit fishy… More vote buying? More favors to political constituencies.
Wasn’t Obama supposed to be post-partisan? Wasn’t he supposed to bring a new way of “doing business” in Washington?
Posted by: tjp612 | December 8, 2010, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
“Were they tax cuts or not Jake?”
They were tax cuts signed into law by Mr. bush. Mr. Obama has now elected to continue for another two years the rates wisely enacted under Mr. Bush. If Mr. Obama thought they were unwise he had eighteen months of a filibuster-proof congressional majority in which to modify the, as he repeatedly had promised to do in his campaign.
I will leave it to his dwindling number of
apologists to account for his failure to do what he promised to do.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | December 8, 2010, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm