President Obama to Propose Partial Budget Freeze and Earmark Ban Tonight*
Pursuing a path of deficit reduction and government reform, President Obama will tonight in his State of the Union address call for a ban on earmarks and he will propose a five year budget freeze on non-security related discretionary spending, ABC News has learned.
The proposals come as the president prepares to tackle the deficit and debt and as he faces a House of Representatives in Republican hands, many of whose members include those affiliated with the Tea Party who may be willing to embrace both moves.
The president will propose some new spending in certain areas that address the speech’s theme of “How We Win the Future”: innovation, education and infrastructure. But those increases will be proposed within the context of a proposed partial budget freeze.
The FY 2011 budget was $3.8 trillion; $1.415 trillion of which was discretionary spending. The president’s proposal would save, according to estmates, roughly $400 billion.
Last year President Obama proposed a three-year hard freeze on non-security discretionary spending, which White House officials said would save $250 billion over the next decade. (Non-discretionary spending includes items such as Social Security and Medicare.)
As for earmarks, President Obama has long been critical of the process in which members of Congress insert their pet projects into legislation without having them first go through the normal appropriations process, but Congress has continued to put billions of dollars of such projects in bills that arrive at the president’s desk.
After the midterm elections, which President Obama called a “shellacking,” he cited earmarks as a reason why some voters may have gone for the GOP.
Watch my GMA report previewing the speech here and read more about the spending freeze further below:
“I’m a strong believer that the earmarking process in Congress isn’t what the American people really want to see when it comes to making tough decisions about how taxpayer dollars are spent,” the president said. “And I, in the rush to get things done, had to sign a bunch of bills that had earmarks in them, which was contrary to what I had talked about. And I think folks look at that and they said, ‘Gosh, this feels like the same partisan squabbling, this seems like the same ways of doing business as happened before.’”
The president said it was his understanding than House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., was pushing a moratorium on earmarks and “that’s something I think we can work on together.”
-Jake Tapper
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A hard cap on a small portion of a $4 trillion budget, and an earmark ban already championed and (ostensibly) implemented by the House.
Thanks for nothing, Mr. President.
Posted by: Schaef | January 25, 2011, 11:25 am 11:25 am
He not only proposed an earmark ban 1, 2, 3, and 4 years ago, but pledged multiple times to veto any bill with even a single earmark in it. If he had meant what he said, we wouldn’t be in this mess. What makes us think he means it this time?
Posted by: Kurtiss | January 25, 2011, 11:26 am 11:26 am
An earmark cut and budget freeze is a drop in the bucket. How about a 20% cut across the board in all agencies? How about eliminated useless departments like the Department of Education? How about raising Social Security and Medicare to age 70? How about public funding of elections to eliminate buying your seat and then having to make paybacks. Mark Malatesta
Posted by: mark malatesta | January 25, 2011, 11:29 am 11:29 am
What he SAYS while campaigning (and that is what he’s doing), is NEVER the same as what he DOES, once he wins.
The public knows that now, by his own record.
Posted by: Mary | January 25, 2011, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Although he needs to stand firm on many democratic principles like he should, his humility and willingness to compromise makes him an excellent president.
Posted by: TV | January 25, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am
The cost of the health care takeover will swamp any earmark ban or budget freeze.
Posted by: NO OBAMA STICKER | January 25, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Why does Obama have to “work together” on an earmark ban? All he had to do was veto anything with an earmark the last couple years.
Instead he gladly signed every spending bill with thousands of earmarks.
Sounds like somebody who’s out of cash suddenly stating that they’ve “decided” to stop spending, ignoring the reality that they couldn’t if they wanted to.
Posted by: Tom Genin | January 25, 2011, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Yup, I’m sure this time he means it…. Give me a break. Everything this guy said he wants to do, he does the opposite.
Like “from here on out I will focus on JOBS”. still waiting to see that focus, wasn’t that from the last STOTUS. Stiiiiill waiting.
I wont even attempt to watch this lair in cheif. I don’t need to waste my time for more lies.
Posted by: mike | January 25, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Anything this guy says now is just window dressing, all lies and half truths, but what do you expect from a “man” that cares more about his ego than the American people.
Posted by: CV | January 25, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am
he campaigned on the promise of an earmark ban. oh, right, had to pay off his campaign contributors first. now he really means it.
ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: stargirl | January 25, 2011, 11:36 am 11:36 am
A little late to the party, aren’t we, Mr. Obama?
Posted by: Spring Mountaineer | January 25, 2011, 11:39 am 11:39 am
TV—”Although he needs to stand firm on many democratic principles like he should, his humility and willingness to compromise makes him an excellent president.”— Ummm.. Who exactly have you bee watching.. not this guy obviously… this is the same man who had his minions (Pelosi and Reid) LOCK out the republicans from the healthcare debate and then submit mostly un-read monstrosities in the middle of the night (literally) to ram his agenda through with NO bi-partisan support. this is the same president who said “the Republicans can ride the bus but they gotta sit in back”.. Humility??? Try agian.. perhaps you meant EGOTIST.. that suits him better….
Posted by: arkie vet | January 25, 2011, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Simply put, the vast majority of government spending is not related to earmarks, but “non-discretionary” spending related to entitlements.
Second, freezing a massive budget is not going to help solve the problem that the spending is unsustainable to begin with, and damaging the productive economy it is predicated upon.
Posted by: Kyle | January 25, 2011, 11:40 am 11:40 am
It was the earmarks that got him the votes to pass the so called health care reform. Now he wants to stop them? Oh, I believe him.
Posted by: bigdoglv | January 25, 2011, 11:42 am 11:42 am
I eagerly await the announcement that Gitmo has closed too!
Posted by: Cott | January 25, 2011, 11:42 am 11:42 am
“President Obama to Propose Budget Freeze and Earmark Ban Tonight”
Isn’t that like closing the barn door AFTER the horses get out?
Of course we’ll have a budget and earmark freeze… why? BECAUSE WE ARE BROKE! DUH… he spent the treasure of this country… and the worst part is, he spent billions upon billions on totally rediculous things.
I’m amazed the people in this country have done a full out-and-out riot on the hill after some of the spending they’ve done has surfaced. Just shows we’re a nation of sheeple.
Posted by: ByteRider | January 25, 2011, 11:43 am 11:43 am
I don’t care how it gets done or why. It simply needs to get done. I don’t like Mr. Obama, because I hate what he’s done to civil liberties in this once great nation. That being said, the budget freeze and the earmarks ban are desperately needed. If Obama will do that, it simply doesn’t make sense to fight him “on principle”. Surely the public good is a higher principle than fighting Obama on anything and everything because of his horrific civil rights record.
Posted by: Elizabeth Conley | January 25, 2011, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Remember last year Obams made the tough call and asked his Department leaders to spend 90 days figuring out where they could cut $100 million from their budgets. While at the same time he and the liberals in Congress were spending $140 BILLION a MONTH we do not have and adding it to the debt.
So find 100 million in savings over 90 days while spending 200 million we don’t have EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY! Yeah that is a winning plan.
Do liberals even know the most basic math?
Posted by: Dee | January 25, 2011, 11:45 am 11:45 am
i wish he would stop talking. nothing he says makes a bit of sense to an AMERICAN. but we all know he is not an AMERICAN. any “rational” person could show us THEIR! copy and silence critics. and for the record liberalism is a mental disease.
Posted by: tax payer | January 25, 2011, 11:46 am 11:46 am
3rd paragraph in: “The president will propose some new spending”
And further down “As for earmarks, President Obama has long been critical…” How about if the President, Cantor, et al and the Dems all SHUT UP and CUT (not freeze) the BUDGET – Like 300 million Americans HAVE BEEN DOING?!?! NOW. not next year. NOW. There is NO MONEY. NOW.
Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2011, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Freezing the budget when we’re running $1.4 trillion deficits the last 2 years is meaningless. We need to CUT spending! As in spend less than the year before for those mathematically-challenged types in the Democrat Party.
And how nice of Obama to call for a ban on earmarks AFTER he broke that pledge the last 2 years and the House GOP already banned them. Way to be ahead of the curve, Barry.
Posted by: Adam_ME | January 25, 2011, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Obama doubles government spending in his first two years and then says freeze it? No thanks! Cut it!!!
Posted by: Tyrone J | January 25, 2011, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Haha! Who are you going to believe: President Obama or your lying eyes?!?!
I’ve got a better idea… I’ll let Paul Ryan and company figure out better ways to NOT spend my (and my children’s + grandchildren’s) hard earned money instead and we can see each other again on election day in 2012, Mr. President.
Deal?
Posted by: JoeShmoe | January 25, 2011, 11:47 am 11:47 am
I’ve watched all the State of the Union addresses since I became old enough to vote, however, I certainly won’t be watching this one. I don’t believe a word he says. Obama is a Player, and the verbal diatribe he will spout forth this evening is for no purpose other than a campaign kickoff. I choose not to listen to the Great Pretender.
Zebra’s do not loose their stripes and aa RUSE by any other name is still a RUSE.
Posted by: LLT | January 25, 2011, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Gotta love these posters..they see right thru this left wing extremist president and his job killing policies..now follow thru and post it all in your forwarded emails
You may be interested in this…Go to YouTube…type in “how liberal journalist think”.. its a riot and be sure to email it to everyone
Posted by: Yep I said that | January 25, 2011, 11:47 am 11:47 am
If you remember the 2010 SOTU it was all about jobs, jobs jobs!!-
Hey, it worked for me!
Posted by: Pete Orszag | January 25, 2011, 11:50 am 11:50 am
He’s suddenly realised that the key to his re-election is to run as a republican..
OBAMA-PALIN 2012 ‘Dopes and Deranged’
Posted by: gram | January 25, 2011, 11:50 am 11:50 am
He Lies!
I hope I hear a lot of ‘You Lie’ tonight.
‘Course that would spoil the ‘teach the world to sing’ moment for the clueless R congress members ‘sitting together’ with the enemy.
Hurry 2012, so we can rid ourselves of every last rino.
Posted by: chic | January 25, 2011, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Looks like this will be a battle of spending freezes vs. spending cuts.
Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2011, 11:50 am 11:50 am
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 22% of Likely U.S. Voters think the president is even somewhat likely to cut the federal deficit in half while 72% say Obama is unlikely to achieve that goal which he laid out in a speech in February 2009.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 25, 2011, 11:51 am 11:51 am
I am so glad that we have cable so I do not have to watch the dog and pony show tonight. I am sure that the “State of the Union is Strong” and we must do “Investment Spending” We have not finished the investment spending from his last stimulus and what has been paid back had gone into the black hole of Washington. I can pass on tonight.
Posted by: Judy Ward | January 25, 2011, 11:52 am 11:52 am
While the margin has varied somewhat from week-to-week, Republicans have been consistently ahead on the Generic Ballot since June of last year, with a lead that has run as high as 12 points and as low as three. By contrast, when Barack Obama took office as president in late January 2009, Democrats enjoyed a seven-point lead on the Generic Ballot.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 25, 2011, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Obviously this article got linked on some freeper garbage heap. Move along, nothing worth reading here.
Posted by: kanamit | January 25, 2011, 11:54 am 11:54 am
If anyone wants to really see how Barry and Co. operate, they should read that NYT piece about Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: Paulie K. | January 25, 2011, 11:55 am 11:55 am
If anyone wants to really see how Barry and Co. operate, they should read that NYT piece about Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: Paulie K. | January 25, 2011, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Cut all spending. Not just “discretionary” but non-discretionary spending as well. The Congress can do that by changing the laws that make the spending “non-discretionary.” We are going broke. Stop spending!
Posted by: Leroy Whitby | January 25, 2011, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Let’s give a recap of the SOTU speech as it will probably be given… “We have to control spending except for the “investments” that I have in mind.” (investments are the democrats way of saying we want to keep spending recklessly but we no longer want to call it that because thats why we lost the last election) “Further, we must concentrate on creating JOBS (with lazer-like focus we all assume) “Because its obvious that all the unnecessary spending we have done so far hasn’t worked, it i apparent to me that we need to SPEND MORE..” then he wll move off the economy and discuss the current climate of political rhetoric in this country. “And we want to concentrate on civility.. which is why I am calling for ALL americans to support me when I say that Republicans should never say anything bad about democrats or their policies because that’s racist, bigoted and violent. While I respect the rights of all American citizens (with a D beside their name)to have the freedom to say what ever they want. We must be careful not to impede on any one’s right’s to free speech and open discourse (provided they are not republican.) In closing let me say that we can all work together to make this country achieve the vision I have for it. And that is to be the BEST third world dictatorship in the northern hemisphere.. togethr we can do it…
Posted by: arkie vet | January 25, 2011, 11:59 am 11:59 am
I am not sure what civil liberties have gone by the wayside during Obamas term. I seem to recall secret wiretaps, secret prisons, and keeping an American detained in perpetuity without counsel during Bush’s years. I am sure people all get to work by walking on dirt roads, and not either by a rail system or by highways which were done not by private corporations, but by the federal government. Everytime you drink a glass of water, be grateful that the EPA does the monitoring, and not the board of BP. Sure there is waste, which needs to be cut, but there is no way for the private sector to do everything. Well there is, take a ride on a Toll Road, but that too isn’t free. Who did the citizens blame in New York when the streets didn’t get plowed? It wasn’t a private company providing services, but the municipality. My point is everyone hates being taxed, but they want the services all the same. If you out of a job, stop blaming Obama, change your skill set, and there are plenty of jobs out there. I am sure Hu Jintao was doubling over inside with laughter when he came to this fair city of Chicago and saw the antiquated El’, here we are riding on a century old system, and our power grid is a joke. Investing in education, and our infrastructure is hardly a waste. Otherwise we will have a bunch of American workers working retail ringing up sales by an Indian, Korean, Chinese high tech and advanced degree workforce that were given special visas to immigrate here.
Posted by: Mike T | January 25, 2011, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Wow, I didnt know this was a FOX news site.
The ignorance here is appalling….
The one thing that THIS proud Liberal knows is that Obama WILL kowtow and give in even more to the Republicans tonite.
Gonna be a lot of third party voting in 2012…and I will be one of them….
Posted by: rick | January 25, 2011, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Let’s summarize:
First two years with control of Congress, Obama rams through very partisan healthcare legislation, without compromising with Republicans. Why? Because he didn’t have to compromise to get his way.
Second two years began after the Nov 2010 elections, “the Shellacking”. Obama starts to compromise with Republicans because he has to. Just politics. He is “moving to the center” in order to get elected in 2012 because he has to. Don’t listen to his speeches, watch his actions and understand he is calculating his every move in order to achieve his goal: to get his way and get elected. He will push his own liberal agenda as far as he can, but he ultimately understands what the political limitations are. Very smart and very liberal.
Posted by: JimfromPV | January 25, 2011, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
A budget freeze?? Is this guy an idiot? THE COUNTRY IS BROKE!
Posted by: sd92040 | January 25, 2011, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
The freeze is way insufficient after raising discretionary spending by 86% in 2 years. Time to roll it back to pre-Obama levels at a bare minimum. Remember 40% of ALL FED SPENDING IS BORROWED MONEY! Did you get an 86% raise in the last 2 years? Can you spend 40% more than your income?
Posted by: Sunshine Connie | January 25, 2011, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
NO, NO, NO!!!! —- Obama and the Democratic majority INCREASED the budget for non-discretionary spending by 15%!! —- They need to take the budget BACK to 2008 levels (at least) and THEN FREEZE!! —- Don’t try to be the “Great Budget Slasher” NOW after spending mor than any congress in history the last two years!!! —— Also, Obama promised “No more earmarks” when he was campaigning!! Should we believe him now??
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Remember….IF HIS LIPS ARE MOVING HE IS LYING..no matter what he says
Posted by: MHumen | January 25, 2011, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
So all of a sudden OBAMA is a budget hawk? After he bankrupted the country? And yes, Bush was bad too, but he was a piker compared to OBAMA, and he at least took an interest in the job, instead of letting Congress write all the legislation. What part did OBAMA play in the legislation that was passed in the last Congress? Answer: NOTHING – they wrote it, he, like the good martinet that he is, signed it. And what else has he done? Made us the laughingstock of the world, bowed and scraped before Chinese and Arab, as well as other world leaders, failed in Afghanistan, failed everywhere else, we have double digit unemployment, and are about to enter into another recession. OBAMA is a clueless incompetent, elected by a fawning media – like Kennedy and Carter – other incompetents elected as a result of a media love affair. Hopefully, we wise up in 2012!
Posted by: Blake Davis | January 25, 2011, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Our president is a fake in every sense of the word and you can’t believe anything he says…its just that simple
Posted by: phillysmart | January 25, 2011, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
If we want to shrink government all the people in the federal and state govt who vote republican should quit and stop being a burden on the American people.
Posted by: bill | January 25, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
There’s always one idiot from Media Matters blaming all of the conservative comments on Drudge. Get a real job, pal or wise up and join those who aren’t brainwashed by the corrupt incompetents who run the democrat party.
Posted by: Blake Davis | January 25, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
No true citizen of the United States would settle for such a weak financial plan. Why would Mr. Obama present such a farce? Oops, I forgot!
Posted by: Millard | January 25, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Candidate Obama, Oct 15, 2008
OBAMA: Well, look, I think that we do have a disagreement about an across-the-board spending freeze. It sounds good. It’s proposed periodically. It doesn’t happen.
And, in fact, an across-the-board spending freeze is a hatchet, and we do need a scalpel, because there are some programs that don’t work at all. There are some programs that are underfunded. And I want to make sure that we are focused on those programs that work.
Now, Senator McCain talks a lot about earmarks. That’s one of the centerpieces of his campaign.
Earmarks account for 0.5 percent of the total federal budget. There’s no doubt that the system needs reform and there are a lot of screwy things that we end up spending money on, and they need to be eliminated. But it’s not going to solve the problem.
Now, the last thing I think we have to focus on is a little bit of history, just so that we understand what we’re doing going forward.
Posted by: MayBee | January 25, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Able to make doing nothing sound good.
Posted by: Tatum | January 25, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Barry’s cal;ling for no earmarks!? every Bill he passed the last 2 years had earmarks. Oh! I get it. He means not to let the Republicans propose any earmarks in their bills. The beginning of the use of the veto pen begins.
Posted by: Steve B. | January 25, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Looks like a good night to watch Dirty Jobs.
Posted by: Johhnyscott1 | January 25, 2011, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
“Get a real job, pal or wise up and join those who aren’t brainwashed by the corrupt incompetents who run the democrat party.”
I heard that!
Posted by: Rep. Frank | January 25, 2011, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
You know as I know that his speech is nothing but platitude-words without meanings. I don’t believe him any words come from his mouth. It is simple truth by checking things he has done and what he has said in the past, it doen’t add up.
Posted by: tom | January 25, 2011, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
What a joke…
Raise the budget by a trillion dollars and then freeze it..
Destroy the health care system, and then rather than repeal the bill… fix a couple items when the goal was to make the system so bad that a government run system would sound good
Where’s the birth certificate?
Posted by: both ways obama | January 25, 2011, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
April Fools Day has come early.
If you believe the Spendthrift in Chief Obama is suddenly a deficit hawk, I’ve got a bridge for sale….
Posted by: Kelvin | January 25, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
He said he was going to do away with earmarks during his campaign prior to the 2010 election. I lied then, he’s lying now!
Posted by: boiz | January 25, 2011, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
get out of Iraq and Afghanistan now
Posted by: bill | January 25, 2011, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Don’t watch what he says. Don’t listen to what he says. READ what he says. Then you will know the truth.
Posted by: CD | January 25, 2011, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Obams has no choice if he still had the House he wouldn’t give a dam about what we think are want. This president is the worst we have ever had. A shoe and and a smile doesn’t cut it any more.
It is such a shame that the first black president is a liar and can not be trusted. He is weak and mean behind the scenes. God help us all the next two years.
Reis and Pelosi work every day to hurt American to advance their left wing agenda and Obama is just happy to have use of the planes, cars, and the white house and shuts up.
He just doesn’t get it – Boy were we all suckered. If only he would have done what he promised he could have been great instead of the loser he really is.
Posted by: A Citizen | January 25, 2011, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
The budget freeze is a ruse. It is the typical political two-step: appearing to be doing something when you are not. All a budget freeze would do would lock in excess. Obama has spent us into a terrible economic position and he wants to keep us there? No thanks. We need to go back to where we were before we started down this disastrous leftist Keynesian roadway and start over
Posted by: Victor | January 25, 2011, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Wow, I didnt know this was a FOX news site.
The ignorance here is appalling….
Posted by: rick
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What’s the matter rick? Are you afraid of anyone with a point of view other than your own? You want to keep them from speaking?
Posted by: spike | January 25, 2011, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Freeze? Is he serious? This is not NEARLY enough. All budgets (including defense, everything) should be rolled back to 2006 levels before all of this mad spending frenzy began. From that point there should be further cuts. And I mean deep cuts. The target should be ZERO deficit spending within 3 years. If we can’t get to ZERO deficit then it’s not good enough. Also if you want to keep the economy from crashing then promise immediately there will be no higher taxes. This needs to be done 100% via spending cuts
Posted by: bigandy | January 25, 2011, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
It’s earmarks. Yeah, that’s it. Not the over-reaching through health care. Not that the President promised during his campaign a “five day” viewing of bills before signing – as he stated “he had to rush” to sign. Not cap and trade. Not the bail outs. It’s the earmarks. Doesn’t get it.
Posted by: Mike | January 25, 2011, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
We save hundreds of billions of dollars by getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We need stop feeding the private contractors and the defense industry. Do we really need a defense budget bigger that is larger than all of Europe and China combined?
Will republicans demand this, highly unlikely.
Posted by: bill | January 25, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
ABC News quickly switched from more “investing” yesterday to budget freeze and earmark ban. Dodged that bullet. He was going to speak of more spending on education, but I think more spending is not the way to impress we the people.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
The budget should be frozen at 2006 levels for starters with a promise for no new taxes in order to restore economic confidence. This means BHO’s healthcare takeover will have to be shelved. Yeah, sure the CBO said it reduces the deficit, but you know and I know this is complete horse hockey. The CBO has fallen victim to the Chicago-style politics inherent to the current regime – they are no longer non-partisen….
Posted by: bigandy | January 25, 2011, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
You lie, Obama.
Posted by: One_American | January 25, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
You lie, Obama.
Posted by: One_American | January 25, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Jake, I thought the briefing today was suppose to stay under wraps until the speech started. So much for your ethical standards.
Posted by: Truth | January 25, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
So, sorry for the reality check, but, no matter what he says, tonight, he won’t mean it. If he really wants to win the future he should say that all government departments will have to cut 15% of their employees, the budget will be frozen at 2007 levels and that all spending will have to be approved by himself. Now we all know none of this will fly, so, he’ll make it political, throw out a little blame about why we are where we’re at and when the rubber hits the road, it’ll be spend baby spend.
Posted by: toledofan | January 25, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Obama doesn’t support banning earmarks. He just supports TALKING about banning earmarks. Then when a bill with thousands of earmarks lands on his desk, he quickly signs it.
Posted by: Ken | January 25, 2011, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
He already made and broke this same promise before. When he was campaigning, he said that he wouldn’t sign any bill with earmarks. I don’t think he’s signed one yet that DIDN’T have earmarks.
You can tell when a politician is lying to you…his lips move.
Posted by: e | January 25, 2011, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Pursuing Mr. Trapper??? Where have YOU been? You mean starting…so 2012 is not also a disaster!
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama says — ‘yeah, let’s raise the spending level extraordinarily high and then freeze it.’
No.
No freeze is needed. What is needed is budget cuts, and lots of them.
Reducing the bloated salaries of federal workers would be a great place to start.
Posted by: Joe White | January 25, 2011, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
What happened to the whole “scalpel vs. hatchet” argument against spending freezes?
Posted by: Wesley | January 25, 2011, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Remember his last State of the Union where he promised a “Laser-like focus” on job creation? He thereafter continued to ram his leftist ideology down our throats while we continued to shed jobs at recor pace.
remember his post-racial, post-partisan campaign rhetoric? How’d that turn out?
This man’s words are irrelevant; watch his actions.
“Fool me once, shame on you….”
Posted by: JJD | January 25, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Given their woeful disregard for governing over the past 2 years, their complicity in the shameful, groundless attacks on our president by the lunatic fringe, and their utter lack of real solutions to the REAL problems we as a nation face, the Republicans deserve no credit for the economic recovery that’s starting to happen.
In this toxic political environment, Obama has been a success. Period.
Go ahead and blame the “lame stream media” for their continued love-affair with Obama, but I think something else is at play here. It’s clear that more than half of Americans recognize that the guy is working very hard for the disenfranchised middle class. How else could he have an approval rating of 53% with an unemployment rate of 9.4%?!
But please don’t let this reality impede your ranting and raving about Obama’s radical, socialist, pro-Islam, big brother, white-hating agenda.
Posted by: JJMcKay | January 25, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Put things back? Umemployment hit us under the GW Bush administration, as did home foreclosures, high expenses going to fight the War in Iraq to help Republicans get “war profiteering” going again, and help Exxon Mobile get record high unemployment. Republicans are worried about cutting the budget, but doing nothing for “We the People” who are unemployed. Where are the jobs when Republican Bush led any president in outsourcing jobs? And remember, “We the people” (the majority) voted in Obama — and they knew he wanted Health Care, etc. But, now Republicans say “We the people” are only “Republicans”. They don’t get it..that WE the People consists of jusbt them and their liberal military spending, and supporting the rich.
Posted by: Jon | January 25, 2011, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
My gosh!!! When did Obama change political parties???
Posted by: T | January 25, 2011, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Put things back? Umemployment hit us under the GW Bush administration, as did home foreclosures, high expenses going to fight the War in Iraq to help Republicans get “war profiteering” going again, and help Exxon Mobile get record high oil profits. Republicans are worried about cutting the budget, but doing nothing for “We the People” who are unemployed. Where are the jobs when Republican Bush led any president in outsourcing jobs? And remember, “We the people” (the majority) voted in Obama — and they knew he wanted Health Care, etc. But, now Republicans say “We the people” are only “Republicans”. They don’t get it..that WE the People consists of jusbt them and their liberal military spending, and supporting the rich.
Posted by: Jon | January 25, 2011, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Obama has zero intention of banning earmarks, and we all know it.
As to freezing the budget, he doesn’t even know the concept. he is a complete and total spendthrift, and he is incapable of changing.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | January 25, 2011, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Actions speak louder than words. Last year at the SOTU, Obama gave the same speech that we will hear tonight. He will talk about the economy and jobs, reiterating the same talking points as last year. Congress passed the “Pay-Go” law in February, but then buried it to continue on their spending spree. When Republicans brought it up, the Democrats, along with the media, defended the spending as “emergency” or (in the case of the doc-fix) we’ve done this for over 10 years.
He will speak about investigating the regulatory commissions that hurt business growth, but has allowed both the FCC (net neutrality) and the EPA (cap and trade) continue with their distructive fiats. He could have stopped both of these immediately.
So, while the media gets a “thrill up their leg” over seeing Obama on TV and how eloquent a speaker he is, I’ll reserve my judgments until I see some concrete actions taking place.
Posted by: djaymick | January 25, 2011, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Considering this is essentially the Republican plan on spending, I’d hope the GOP applauds itself for winning this fight with the president. There is literally no way to get that much in savings out of non-essential spending, so SS and Medicare will have to be cut.
Posted by: mpp | January 25, 2011, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Even if the President lied as much as the intelligent, articulate, “you lie” lovers claim he wouldn’t approach the lies & hypocrisy from the Republicans. They cry about deficits spending ONLY on spending they don’t like while they support massive tax breaks for their supporters.
Posted by: Michael C Gibbons | January 25, 2011, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
JJMcKay — Did you ever stop to think that after over 3+ years in a recession, we might actually begin to pull out of it? The stimulus, according to Christine Romer, had it’s “largest effect in the last 2 quarters of 2009 and would have little to no effect in 2010″. We continue at a snails pace with no new policies to change that. What we got was a budget busting insurance law that doesn’t even help many people until 2014. So spare us with your success story. Which Democrats have come out talking about reducing spending lately? That is, of course the only way to begin lowering our deficit, besides raising taxes of course. But, even raising taxes does nothing until we get our spending in order. So please, let’s here the successes.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
JJMcKay — You might even remember when Obama slammed McCain on his “freeze the budget” idea in 2008? Now, I guess Obama just thought of it huh?
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
JJD is as blind as a bat. Enjoy watching Bill O’Reilly while you search for Michael Savage’s next rant. People like you deserve the destruction you are bringing on this country; the rest of us don’t. Please move to Canada.
Posted by: MHR | January 25, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
JJD is as blind as a bat. Enjoy watching Bill O’Reilly while you search for Michael Savage’s next rant. People like you deserve the destruction you are bringing on this country; the rest of us don’t. Please move to Canada.
Posted by: MHR | January 25, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I’m very leery about the “budget freeze” and “earmark ban.” As an example, if transportation is allowed 1 billion for highways, but congress earmarks 100 million for certain projects, we spend 1 billion. With a budget freeze and earmark ban, we still spend 1 billion, but presidential appointees decide where to spend that 100 million. Unless we also reduce that budget by the amount of the earmarks, we’ve gained nothing. Will our new congress have the guts to do this? This whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test.
Posted by: CitizenJ | January 25, 2011, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Remember, it’s easy for Obama to SOUND like a conservative to bring back the independent voters. He KNOWS that Harry Reid will block all conservative proposals from passing in the Senate. This way he can say he tried to bring about fiscal restraint while letting old Harry do the dirty work. Disgusting politics, but that’s what you get when you elect a committed socialist, liar, political animal.
Posted by: Vince | January 25, 2011, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
The policies of far-right and center-right politicians like Obama are sending the U.S. into a nosedive. Taxes need to go up (slightly) and military spending needs to go down, or we can say goodbye to our superpower status.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
So everyone knows Obama has spent about 3 trillion dollars that will be the eventual cost of the Health Care program. On top of that add another 6 to 7 trillion on wasted government spending in the last two years. Now, he is suddenly interested in saving money? How much stupidity can the America people tolerate out of this guy?
Posted by: Jay | January 25, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Talk is cheap and if we’ve learned one thing about Mr. Obama, it’s that he has absolutely no problem saying what he thinks people want to hear, and that’s what we’ll get in the State of the Union. Lots of words but they’ll just be empty promises. I only wish I would be able to watch, but I’m going to be nauseous later tonight…oh wait, it’s the speech that’s going to cause the nausea:o(
Posted by: Linda | January 25, 2011, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Quote: “…The proposals come as the president prepares to tackle the deficit and debt and as he faces a House of Representatives in Republican hands, many of whose members include those affiliated with the Tea Party who may be willing to embrace both moves..”
ABC reporting at its best. “The President prepares to tackle the deficit…” Great reporting, great company line, nice way to hide the facts I wish ABC could just be honest.
Posted by: Jay | January 25, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
JJMcKay — You might even remember when Obama slammed McCain on his “freeze the budget” idea in 2008? Now, I guess Obama just thought of it huh?-
He also thought the debt ceiling was a good idea too a few years ago.
Posted by: Vote Present | January 25, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Quote: “…The proposals come as the president prepares to tackle the deficit and debt and as he faces a House of Representatives in Republican hands, many of whose members include those affiliated with the Tea Party who may be willing to embrace both moves..”
ABC reporting at its best. “The President prepares to tackle the deficit…” Great reporting, great company line, nice way to hide the facts I wish ABC could just be honest.
Posted by: Jay | January 25, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Can’t wait to watch The Hank Haney Project: Rush Limbaugh instead. May DVR it to watch Paul Ryan’s response.
Posted by: JD | January 25, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
How do you propose a budget freeze when the last Congress never even passed a Budget?
Posted by: ALS | January 25, 2011, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
He already promised he wouldn’t sign a bill with earmarks. Now he REALLY means it. I’m sure we should all trust him this time, right? Right?
Posted by: Jose | January 25, 2011, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
That’s funny… he seemed to be just fine with earmarks when the liberals controlled the House. What a hypocrite.
Posted by: Michael | January 25, 2011, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Ban earmarks? You’d have to be VERY slow to go along with a SCAM like this.
The money set for a certain bill is spent NO MATTER WHAT. Earmarks make sure that some of the money goes back to the people. If it doesn’t, the rest is given to the executive branch to spend how they please.
Congress is supposed to appropriate the funds, not the executive. OF COURSE Obama wants a ban on earmarks……… it would be great for him and bad for you.
Notice how we’re in a position where it’s impossible to pay off our debt or fix our financial system, but yet the federal government and states are cutting all your benefits (road repairs, police, fire department, etc) and keeping all the money for themselves. You’re being squeezed and you don’t even realize it.
Sure it would be nice to eliminate earmark money from a bill entirely, but what Obama is proposing is “give all the extra money to me – screw the people.”
Posted by: John | January 25, 2011, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
-Put things back? Umemployment hit us under the GW Bush administration, as did home foreclosures, high expenses going to fight the War in Iraq to help Republicans get “war profiteering” going again, and help Exxon Mobile get record high oil profits.-
Luckily, unemployment never went above 8%, Wall Street never got bailed out and BP never got some CYA from Barry. And troops came home, Gitmo was closed…
Posted by: Change! | January 25, 2011, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Watch… later in the speech, after proposing a budget freeze…. Obama will them propose a new stimulus bill to “help boost the econoomy”!! — HA-HA!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Michael wrote: “That’s funny… he seemed to be just fine with earmarks when the liberals controlled the House. What a hypocrite.”
But according to the article:
“As for earmarks, President Obama has long been critical of the process…”
Michael, in the State of the Union day words of a certain GOP Congressman:
YOU LIE!
Posted by: The_Mick | January 25, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Watch… later in the speech, after proposing a budget freeze…. Obama will them propose a new stimulus bill to “help boost the econoomy”!! — HA-HA!!
Recover Summer!
Posted by: Timbo | January 25, 2011, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Watch Very Closely as Obama’s Nose Grows Live on TV tonight !
2 Years later and he Rewinds the Tape from the past…what a Joke this guy is ! But there will be some that are still Brain-Dead that will believe every word that spews from his mouth.
Posted by: Doug Rose | January 25, 2011, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
First he institutes massive budget increases, and now he wants to con us by calling for a freeze?? He really thinks the American people aren’t paying attention. What we’re demanding is budget cuts. There was an election. The democrats lost.
Posted by: Dave C | January 25, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Obama had the chance to get his way on earmarks and sensible budgeting when he was elected and when the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress.
But, the earmarks continued. Government spending skyrocketed.
The job/hiring situation is still inadequate despite administration claims it would be better than this by now.
And, we’re supposed to believe what Obama says?
Posted by: vrytix | January 25, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Latest unemployment figures show the unemployment rate rose in 20 states last month as employers in most states shed jobs…… now didn’t Obama say two years ago that he was “LAZER-FOCUSED” on jobs!!! —– Oh, but first he had to make 100 speeches on healthcare reform… that 65% of Americans didn’t want!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
FREEZE? No!! Deep cuts? Yes.
In the 1980s, while Reagan was proposing to the USSR that ALL nuclear weapons be destroyed, the Democrats were proposing a “freeze” that would have kept weapons stockpiles at 1985 levels FOREVER. They are much lower now thanks to treaties Reagan and following presidents signed. Now, Obama wants to “freeze” the budget at the same levels Democrats have ramped it up to over the last five years? Republicans should say NO WAY!
Posted by: Stephen A. | January 25, 2011, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Obama, as we all know, will deliver the speech in his eloquent way….reading from the telepromptor. The problem with Obama is he hasn’t done anything to help business in the two years he’s been in office. We’ve seen unemployment rise, the uncertainties facing companies, and gas prices rising. For all his rhetoric, he is an anti-business president; that is unless you contributed large amounts to his election and then you get compensated like GE and Immelt. The new Congress has already started to cut spending, so this isn’t something Obama came up with. As a matter of fact there has been more spending under this administration than any other. I’ll listen tonight, but I don’t have a great deal of faith in anything Obama says. I look at what he does.
Posted by: MB | January 25, 2011, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Wow, I didnt know this was a FOX news site.
The ignorance here is appalling….
Posted by: rick
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Surprised Rick that there are a lot of unpaid patriotic bloggers here?
If Obama is true to his words about budget freeze (which I don’t believe) you will have to settle for a pay cut.
Posted by: Noel | January 25, 2011, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Win the Future, make Obama a one term president
Posted by: jgalt11 | January 25, 2011, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
If you’re not cutting defense expenditures, you’re not serious about deficit reduction. That’s just the way it is.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | January 25, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Government spending has not “skyrocketed.” You are parroting untruths which you have been told by the media and the GOP. There was a big boost between 2008-2009 for what should be obvious reasons: issues of chronic unemployment drove increases in spending on programs like TANF, unemployment comp., etc. Not to mention the Stimulus spending and of course spending related to the military.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
JJMckay
Glad you are the only one posting in support of Obama. Just keep posting over and over and it will appear someone else is on your side. lol.
Posted by: boog | January 25, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Amazing people are really appluding BO for his new look on spending. You pump the budget up for 2-3 years then you freeze it at a high level? It fixes nothing. Jobs leaving this country would be prioity I would think but his devaluing the dollar is killing the country. What does he do? He gives a big party for China and says nothing while they keep their money value low which draws our work to thier country. People keep crying about Republicans giving kick backs to the people who got them elected but say nothing about BO waving the healthcare mandate to the unions who won’t have to pay into this abortion. What about the tax money going to defend Frank Raines even after he was fired? I guess it’s okay if your a Dem. Seems like the only thing that they can do is point the finger at Bush over unemployment even though he has been gone for over 2 years and jobs are still in the crapper. Look at the housing market. I just saw where it is double dipping. I can’t imagin why? Maybe people are not working? He has not changed his spots but I’m sure many people will buy his bs. I would be shocked if he did not get re-elected. Even the people at FOX keep saying the people of this country are not stupid but I guess the test will be when he’s up for re-election.
Posted by: Chris | January 25, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
You are parroting untruths which you have been told by the media and the GOP.-
I know, terrible. When can we expect the lies about unemployment going over 8% to stop?!?!
Posted by: Pete O. | January 25, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
You are parroting untruths which you have been told by the media and the GOP.-
I know, terrible. When can we expect the lies about unemployment going over 8% to stop?!?!
Posted by: Pete O. | January 25, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
1 Trillion has been spent and no one is talking about the stimulus spending… The policy failed and for 15 to 16 Million unemployed people we spent 1 Trillion USD.
Posted by: darahs99 | January 25, 2011, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Let’s cut the crap: cutting government spending WILL NOT create jobs, WILL NOT repair our collapsing bridges and tunnels, WILL NOT fix our failing schools. The “free market” WILL NOT do it either… even if we roll back every regulation and continue to give the upper 2% a free ride on taxes Come to think of it, the “free market” won’t even make our mines, oil rigs, drinking water, air quality safe. Why? Not because they can’t, but because it’s not profitable to do it!
But this government spending charade is BEYOND tiresome. It’s a RED HERRING that Republicans (when they aren’t in office increasing spending themselves) dig up to attack every Democrat in power. There isn’t a SINGLE economist (not even on the WSJ payroll) who is encouraging “austerity” at this point in the recovery. Prove me wrong. Please!
And please stop parroting the GOP phony outrage over the Affordable Health Care Act. It’s as centrist a law as you can get! It works WITHIN the private health program and implements ideas that, up until Obama proposed them, were embraced wholeheartedly by Republicans! Both sides knew that our health care problems were only going to get worse, so Obama fell on the sword for the good of BOTH PARTIES. In private, the GOP is thanking Obama for doing something they could NEVER get done… what with ill-informed conspiracy theorists like Bachmann in their caucus.
The unregulated “free market” had more than FIFTY YEARS to get health care right. They blew it. Insurance companies blew it. Greed BLEW it! (And I defy any conservative to point to any evidence that the insurance industry has HEALTH CARE as its top priority.)
Posted by: JJMcKay | January 25, 2011, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Nobody said anyone was lying about the employment level, Pete. Feel free to continue arguing about statements that were never made, however.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Typical communist. When in power do what ever you can to subvert the nation, when out of power lie and wait for the next opportunity to corrupt the system.
Posted by: isukusa | January 25, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
cutting government spending WILL NOT create jobs.
Posted by: Not Summers | January 25, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Can Obama Administration pay back 1 Trillion? We can can redo things for the better…
Posted by: darahs99 | January 25, 2011, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Nobody said anyone was lying about the employment level, Pete. Feel free to continue arguing about statements that were never made, however.”
And it will never, ever go over 8%!
Posted by: Pete O. | January 25, 2011, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Nobody said anyone was lying about the employment level, Pete. Feel free to continue arguing about statements that were never made, however.
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And Gitmo is closed too.
Posted by: Ocean View | January 25, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
What a bunch of hypocrites! He signs bills with earmarks. He doesn’t keep some of his campaign promises. He writes his State of the Union speech to convince the public that he is doing the right things. All previous Presidents are guilty of these and yet Obama can’t be trusted because of them. You can criticize him for being like other Presidents if you like, but the arguments hold no water.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 25, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Oh yeah, Obama’s all about fiscal responsibility.
When Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave her inaugural address as speaker of the House in 2007, she vowed there would be “no new deficit spending.” Since that day, the national debt has increased by $5 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.
“After years of historic deficits, this 110th Congress will commit itself to a higher standard: Pay as you go, no new deficit spending,” Pelosi said in her speech from the speaker’s podium. “Our new America will provide unlimited opportunity for future generations, not burden them with mountains of debt.”
At the close of business on Jan. 4, 2007, Pelosi’s first day as speaker, the national debt was $8,670,596,242,973.04 (8.67 trillion), according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department. At the close of business on Oct. 22, it stood at $13,667,983,325,978.31 (13.67 trillion), an increase of 4,997,387,083,005.27 (or approximately $5 trillion).
Pelosi, the 60th speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, has added more to the national debt than the first 57 House speakers combined.
And Obama SIGNED all this spending into law while complaining about our deficits. So trust him. It’ll be fine.
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
JJMcCay said “The “free market” WILL NOT do it (create jobs) either” —– Sorry to break it to you pal…. but it’s been happening for two centuries!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Fun fact: If you refer to Obama as a “socialist” or “communist” you are basically forfeiting your right to contribute to an intelligent political discussion, since you have clearly demonstrated that you do not know the meanings of the words you are using.
Posted by: missy | January 25, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Freeze does not equal REDUCTION! And BO really has no choice. The House Republicans are set on REDUCTION! Finally….
Posted by: dandydon | January 25, 2011, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Pete- I was being sarcastic. I don’t know why you’re actually continuing to argue about things nobody said.
The untruths I was referring to were the GOP untruths regarding “skyrocketing” government spending (which has not occurred).
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
I will continue to refer to him as a socialist and I know exactly what the term means.
Perhaps you need to revisit your understanding of the term.
Stating how the government works today doesn’t make someone a socialist or not a socialist, their beliefs and agenda do.
The left has always gotten their way by chipping away little by little so no one thing can be pointed at and accused of being “socialist” but when you look at the results and where it is taking us the truth is abundant.
You speak like a true liberal though, straight out of your socialist handbook, silence your opposition or smear their opinion… which your post did perfectly.
Posted by: Marc | January 25, 2011, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“The untruths I was referring to were the GOP untruths regarding “skyrocketing” government spending (which has not occurred).”
Good to know Rep. Rangel.
Posted by: Pete O. | January 25, 2011, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Literally none of Obama’s policies or beliefs can be defined as truly socialist. You are incorrect and slightly paranoid.
Posted by: missy | January 25, 2011, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
missy: “If you refer to Obama as a “socialist” or “communist” you are basically forfeiting your right to contribute to an intelligent political discussion, since you have clearly demonstrated that you do not know the meanings of the words you are using.”
Define “Hope and Change”. Since you claim to be contributing to “intelligent political discussion” you must know the meaning of those words, right?
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
So When my Wife tells me she ain’t gonna spend the 100k I ain’t gonna make this year… she is only gonna spend 66k of the money I ain’t gonna make…. I should be happy
ROFLMAO
Posted by: donabernathy | January 25, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
So When my Wife tells me she ain’t gonna spend the 100k I ain’t gonna make this year… she is only gonna spend 66k of the money I ain’t gonna make…. I should be happy
ROFLMAO
Posted by: donabernathy | January 25, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“You speak like a true liberal though, straight out of your socialist handbook, silence your opposition or smear their opinion… which your post did perfectly.”
…This is a perfect example of a statement aimed at smearing their opinion. This is hilarious. Good show, Marc!
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
JJMcKay said “I defy any conservative to point to any evidence that the insurance industry has HEALTH CARE as its top priority” —– Insurance companies are business ventures out to make a return for their shareholders just like millions of other publicly traded companies!! —- Do mutual fund companies hope clients get a good return at the expense of the company? — Do hospitals treat patients for free, at their expense, knowing they will go bankrupt… for the good of the patient? —- Actually, insurance companies hope for “healthy people” more than anyone else… because it keeps claims down… but HAVE to raise premiums when health care costs go up!! — If we resort to “government single-payer… is the GOVERNMENT going to be MORE sympathetic than insurance companies??? — You haven’t thought this out much…. you just believe insurance companies are “evil” like the progressives preach (only so they can put them out of business)!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
I don’t recall using either of those words in this discussion, Chuck.
Posted by: missy | January 25, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
TheLoyalOpposition. You are correct. I didn’t intend to include the create jobs part in reference to the free market. Yes, the private sector creates jobs.
Posted by: JJMcKay | January 25, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
“”"”"The unregulated “free market” had more than FIFTY YEARS to get health care right. “”"”"
Posted by: JJMcKay
Hey JJ, I hate to burst your bubble, but 85% of we the people were happy with our health care options before this insurance regulation took affect. Do you realize how difficult it is, in a country of 310 million people, to get 85% of them to agree on anything? IF Obama was true to us in stating they are the party for the middle class, well his law just hurt the people he said he wants to help. Under ObamaCare, the rich will go private and the poor will receive subsidies from the middle class taxes. The middle class will simply watch their premiums rise IN DIRECT RELATION to health care costs. Why,because this law does nothing to tackle health care costs. You can’t reform health care until you reform all aspects of the industry. It’s only a matter of time before our taxes have to be raised and Obama knows it. Guess when that will happen???? Early 2013. What timing huh?
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“If we resort to “government single-payer… is the GOVERNMENT going to be MORE sympathetic than insurance companies???”
Yes, as evidenced by nearly every other first-world country having better health care than we do, with similar wait times and less costs.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Missy —– If we accept the common definition of “socialism” as a system of government ownership of the means of production….. then has the Obama administration moved us further in which direction…. toward government involvement, control and ownership… or further away from it??????? — Then I guess everyone… even those you disagree with… has the right to voice their opinion on this thread…huh?????
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Sooo.. he’s running for re-election on a Republican ticket?
OBAMA PALIN 2012
Posted by: gram | January 25, 2011, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Nothing will change. I’ve heard this same song and dance for 30 years. I don’t care who’s in charge.
Posted by: TheRealLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
TheRealLoyalOpposition —— Hmmmmmmm…. couldn’t come up with an “original” name… huh????
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
“”"”"Yes, as evidenced by nearly every other first-world country having better health care than we do, with similar wait times and less costs.”"”"”
Posted by: shivadas
Not true, you need to go back and look at the 5 categories and why we are ranked where we are. It’s not because of quality or waiting times. It’s funny how you people say a country of 310 million have a health care problem when 85% of its’ people were happy with their health care options.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
EXCLUSIVE ! Capital Maintenance Crew has huge shovels ready to clean up after the State of the Unions Address !
Posted by: Bernie | January 25, 2011, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Responsiveness: The nations with the most responsive health systems are the United States, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Germany, Japan, Canada, Norway, Netherlands and Sweden. The reason these are all advanced industrial nations is that a number of the elements of responsiveness depend strongly on the availability of resources. In addition, many of these countries were the first to begin addressing the responsiveness of their health systems to people’s needs.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Shivadas — YOU content that the GOVERNMENT going to be MORE sympathetic than insurance companies??? — YOU said “Yes, as evidenced by nearly every other first-world country having better health care than we do, with similar wait times and less costs.”
You don’t know squat!!! Guess Who Has the Highest Medical Claim Rejection Rate? The AMA’s own 2008 National Health Insurer Report Card told us which insurer holds this dubious honor! Was it Aetna? Humana? Nope. It was GOVERNMENT-RUN MEDICARE!!!! —- The denial rate found in the study was, on a weighted average basis, roughly 1.7 times that of all of the private carriers combined (99,025 divided by 2,447,216 is 4.05%; 6.85% divided by 4.05% =1.69). You would think Medicare’s sheer size might enable it to have smoother procedures with its providers that would enable it to turn down a lower percentage of claims. But no, this is a GOVERNMENT PROGRAM we’re talking about!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
“Missy —– If we accept the common definition of “socialism” as a system of government ownership of the means of production….. then has the Obama administration moved us further in which direction…. toward government involvement, control and ownership… or further away from it??????? — Then I guess everyone… even those you disagree with… has the right to voice their opinion on this thread…huh?????”
Leaning toward more or less government involvement in anything does not determine someone’s label as a “socialist.” This is the mistake you and many others make. By your logic, you could label someone who wants less government involvement to be a “fascist.” And that is disingenuous.
And yes, everyone has the right to make their voice heard. I don’t know how you got the impression that I thought otherwise.
Posted by: missy | January 25, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Obama has made, and broken, all these same “promises.”
He makes Saddam’s “Baghdad Bob” sound like a truth teller by comparison.
For anyone who can control his gag reflex enough to listen to Hussein this evening, here’s how to tell when he’s lying:
Watch his lips very, very closely and if they move, he’s lying.
Posted by: Danbury | January 25, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Earmark Ban??? Didn’t he say that when running for office??? Maybe this time he means it.
No, freeze is not a cut… and it is not enough.
Posted by: nick | January 25, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
This is nothing more than Obama claiming whatever the Republicans are doing as “his” idea. He’s “white washing” himself. It’s amazing how clueless he has been for the past two years. His positioning himself to take credit for everything, he won’t have to lie about saved jobs anymore because he will be able to claim credit for real jobs created. He will also take any credit for the deficit being reduced, etc. If any of this was his idea he would have tried them 2 years ago instead of waiting until now.
This is the most classless president we have ever had. Hitler or any good communist dictator would be so proud.
Posted by: JoeAmerica | January 25, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
That’s right. Obama should have done this 2 years ago. He came in with a clear mandate to get our fiscal house in order – ban the earmarks, freeze the budget, work together to make America again the economic powerhouse of the world. When you get elected on the wave of a revolution, you can’t then shift gears and talk about hoping to make changes down the road.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | January 25, 2011, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
lfrichar and loyalopposition:
I know, it’s almost as though we should give health care to everyone while fixing the huge flaws in our current system! It’s not like we’re the wealthiest or most powerful country in the world or anything, though, so I have no idea where we’d find the resources to do it… Guess we’d better just maintain the status quo.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Tonight you are going to see the media sing Obama’s songs. I suggest all of you to study joblessness, money has been spending like leaves on tree, Obama’s hellcare like hell for paying heal insurance for receiving nothing in 4 years in advance , home prize dropping like dust flying on air…There is nothing he has accomplished in reality but watch and see how the media orchestra
Posted by: tom | January 25, 2011, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Missy —– So WHY is Obama always “hanging out” with Marxists and Socialists. —- In his first book, Obama wrote his “childhood mentor”, Frank Davis, was a communist. — In his job as a Chicago “community organizer” he worked on projects influenced by Saul Alinsky, a well known Marxist. — William Ayers is a self avowed Marxist — When Obama was at Occidental College, Obama wrote “I chose my friends carefully,” “..politically active black students.. ..Marxist professors and structural feminists.” In NYC, he attended “socialist conferences.. ..at Cooper Union.” Obama’s church and pastor of 20 years adheres to a black liberation theology, an explicitly Marxist interpretation of the Bible. —— How about the 2001 radio interview in which Obama lamented the Supreme Court’s inability to enact “redistribution of wealth”. And during the campaign, Obama’s web site has held several favorable mentions of Che Guevara, the Marxist Revolutionary. — Obama told an Ohio plumber named Joe that he wanted to “spread the wealth around.” —– He selects Czars with socialist backgrounds —- And YOU think this is ALL A COINCIDENCE??????
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
LoyalOpposition – so I suppose the “happy” 85% were fine with the the 147% increase in premiums they experienced between 2000-2010? That sounds *great* to me and totally sustainable!
And the Affordable Health Care Act was not just insurance reform. It was to install consumer protections… very popular protections incidentally… that endeavor to enshrine one of the most popular tenets of our Declaration of Independence: LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Posted by: JJMcKay | January 25, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
I do not think it’s a coincidence and I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. That he knows people who have a wide range of beliefs? It’s entirely possible to expose yourself to and examine differing ideologies and acknowledge positive aspects of them. You seem quite obsessed with labels, though this is sadly a result of talk radio and the media. Obama’s policies are pretty by-the-book center-right.
Posted by: missy | January 25, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
I challenge anyone who complains about health insurors making a profit that they should not go to any doctor who runs his practice on a for-profit basis.
Be consistent with your principles and do not go to any physician who makes a profit.
yes the USA has some of the finest health care in the world.
Just take a while to compare survival rates for cancer and heart attack and you’ll see why it’s best to be in the US when that happens, and not in some European ‘health care utopia’.
Obama and the Democrats used phonyed up numbers to sell Americans on overhauling a system that is already at the top.
Just undo it, and send Obama home to Chicago.
Posted by: Joe White | January 25, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Shivadas — You said “we should give health care to everyone while fixing the huge flaws in our current system” —– I know there are flaws… the GOP has admitted flaws and proposed changes… but to accept the 2000+ page Obamacre as the “BEST” fix is only touted by those who eventually want “total govt single-payer”… because that is where this is headed! — And why would a political party create a 2,700-page health reform law that grants 1,968 powers to the APPOINTED Secretary of Health and Human Services….. and creates 159 NEW boards, bureaucracies, and programs!!! —— ONLY ONE REASON….Can you say “big government power-grab”!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
JJMcKay —– You said “so I suppose the “happy” 85% were fine with the the 147% increase in premiums they experienced between 2000-2010?” —– PLEASE, please, please explain to me how Obamacare is going to keep premiums down!!!!! —- In FACT… premiums will rise faster do to government mandates… as we can see by the offset rates from the “no pre-existing for children” and “free preventive” mandates!! — Try again with another falsehood!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
JJMcKay | Jan 25, 2011 2:33:03 PM
Please tell us of those “protections”???? Also, while insurance rates went up over 100% in 10 years, what do you make of 30% in 1 year after the insurance regulation law was passed? But please, point out any of those protections.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
The health care bill was garbage and served only as a gigantic handout to insurance corporations. You can continue complaining about some vague concept of “big government” but any intelligent examination of the facts reveals that single-payer is the best way to go. We have the resources to afford it as well as fix the flaws in similar systems in other countries, and the benefit will be greater to everyone. Unfortunately the GOP has done a spectacular job in convincing people to argue against their own best interests, as shown on this page.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
More cotton candy from the feel good poet in chief… All fluff no stuff, rhetoric, smoke and mirrors, kumbaya, smiles and winks.
Posted by: sylvia | January 25, 2011, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
“Obama’s policies are pretty by-the-book center-right.”
ROFLMAO!!
Posted by: Justin | January 25, 2011, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Missy said “You seem quite obsessed with labels” —– Hey, half of those references were in OBAMA’S OWN WORDS FROM HIS BOOKS!!! —- Actually, now that I think about it… I don’t think it WAS his own words…. just whoever wrote the book for him!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
“”"”Guess we’d better just maintain the status quo. “”"”"
Posted by: shivadas
If 85% of your people are happy, you need to take that into account before you write legislation. Why not immediately address the 15% who are not? Instead, they write a massive 2000+ page bill, admittedly don’t read it, and then actually tell us we need to implement it before we can see what’s actually in it. How can you defend that? Given that sort of logic, I would take status quo until common sense could be factored in.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
JJMCkay says: “The unregulated ‘free market’ had more than FIFTY YEARS to get health care right.” Fifty years ago health care was just fine. Insurance paid 80% of the hospital/doctor bill and the patient paid the difference. I was 21 at that time, had graduated from college, and had a full-time job. As they still do, hospitals, physicians, and insurance companies added just a little to the total patient bill in order to help pay for the indigent. Insurance at that time could be bought interstate.
Then, government, unable to restrain itself from adhering to the advice, “If it ain’t broke, dont fix it, began to “tweak” this successful system a little. This “tweaking” wasn’t done out of concern for the indigent. It was done to garner votes and expand government intervention.
As a result of the “tweaking” most out-of-state insurance companies fled to their home states. With little competition within the states, the rates “necessarily skyrocketed”!
When it comes to buying health insurance, I take personal responsibility and ask myself: Which is worth more important to me-a boat and motor, a 60-inch TV screen, a trip to the Final Four, an extended vacation, etc., or my life. I choose my health and my life!!
I also take personal responsibility in my work ethic in conjunction with my health. The government and unions say we should have everthing we want from a 40-hour work week. A 40-hour work is an average work week. The most you should expect from a 40-hour work week is an average living. You do know though, that if you work a longer work week the government will punish you by MAKING you pay more taxes!!Whatever’s fair!!
Posted by: Kendrick1 | January 25, 2011, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Shivadas — you said “The health care bill was garbage and served only as a gigantic handout to insurance corporations” —- OMG, you really are posting on the Dem payroll, arent you!!! —— In fact… if Obamacare is NOT amended or halted, private insurance companies will be out of business within 10-15 years!! — I don’t know how that is a “handout”… maybe a “back-hand”!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
I do not think it’s a coincidence and I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. That he knows people who have a wide range of beliefs? It’s entirely possible to expose yourself to and examine differing ideologies and acknowledge positive aspects of them. You seem quite obsessed with labels, though this is sadly a result of talk radio and the media. Obama’s policies are pretty by-the-book center-right.
Posted by: missy | Jan 25, 2011 2:34:46 PM
What happened here? Another Drudge link? (Jake must be thrilled. )
I agree with you though I think he’s center-center. On some issues center-left, on others center-right.
Actually, foreign policy results may throw him center-right. You will be mocked those who have paid no attention to facts and paint him as an anti-business Muslim, Kenyan liberal commie fascist in the pocket of America’s Wall Street… or something bizarro like that. I can’t quite follow the nonsense.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Using “newspeak” like “investment”, etc., just points out the lack of veracity in Obama’s intentions. Actions speak louder than words, and this policy of “investing” in Govt.-related endeavors HAS FAILED MISERABLY for the last 2 years. Obama will just expose himself for what he REALLY is tonight – a tax and spender with Socialist ideals as an ultimate goal. As Lenin said: “the goal of Socialism is Communism”……
Posted by: Todd P. | January 25, 2011, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
“”"”Obama’s policies are pretty by-the-book center-right.”"”"
Posted by: missy
I think I just threw up a little in my throat! LOL He couldn’t even get his Blue Dogs to agree to them!
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
“The health care bill was garbage and served only as a gigantic handout to insurance corporations.”
Shocking. Obama sold out to Big Business?!?
Posted by: Sachs Machine | January 25, 2011, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Something to ponder….. why does the most liberal POTUS in 50 years feel the NEED to veer to the “right” to protect his chances of re-election??? — It says something about the mood of the country… and why it isn’t going to get any easier for the Dems for the next several election cycles!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
It’s like everything else, the costs skyrocket for the actual “payers” when the govt. is subsidizing the product. 60% of health care is provided by the govt. through medicare, medicaid, Schip, veterans administration and DSHS. So the rest of us are paying the tab with astronomical premiums. And Obama’s becoming the new mega neo-neo-con. The only hope is the new conservative agenda that wants to break this stranglehold on the taxpayers.
Posted by: sylvia | January 25, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
“If 85% of your people are happy, you need to take that into account…”
And if 53% of voters vote for you after you campaigned on reforming health care, you need to take that into account in addition to the sustainability of that which you claim people were “happy” about. (what poll claimed people were “happy” btw? Sounds made up. polls showed that Americans were generally miserable in the 00′s.)
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
“Guess we’d better just maintain the status quo.”
Posted by: shivadas | Jan 25, 2011 2:24:49 PM
Apparently many labor unions, who spent millions on Obama’s election campaign, like the status quo just fine. And Obama is rewarding them for their support by exempting them from Obamacare’s regulations.
HHS gave a waiver to Local 25 SEIU in Chicago with 31,000 enrollees on Oct. 1, 2010; to Local 1199 SEIU Greater New York Benefit Fund with 4,544 enrollees on Oct. 10, 2010; and to the SEIU Local 1 Cleveland Welfare Fund with 520 enrollees on Nov. 15, 2010.
The waivers allow health insurance plans to limit how much they will spend on a policy holder’s medical coverage for a given year. Under the new health care law, however, such annual limits are phased out by the year 2014. (Under HHS regulations, annual limits can be no less than $750,000 for 2011, no less than $1.25 million in 2012 and no less than $2 million in 2013.)
So far, the Obama administration has issued waivers to 222 entities, including businesses, unions and charitable organizations. Of that total, 45 were labor organizations.
A total of 1,507,418 enrollees are now included in the waivers. More than one-third — 512,315 – of the enrollees affected were insured by union health plans.
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Of the 40 million (the ACTUAL number) people who didn’t have health insurance, 25 million are ILLEGAL ALIENS. There is not only NO legal obligation for them to be covered by the U.S., there is no MORAL obligation to cover them!! Just as there is NO obligation to cover poor people in ANY other country with health care PROVIDED by U.S. TAXPAYERS…..
Posted by: Todd P. | January 25, 2011, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
“private insurance companies will be out of business within 10-15 years”
— If you have a source for this (beyond “I heard it on Rush”) I’d love to see it.
“If 85% of your people are happy, you need to take that into account before you write legislation. Why not immediately address the 15% who are not?”
— Happiness has a large overlap with ignorance. Many of the people raging against “gubmint takeover of healthcare” are completely oblivious as to how much their quality of life would improve thanks to a U.S. version of single-payer.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Its his lie, He can tell it how he wants!
Posted by: kelley | January 25, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Ifricher ——- When I read “Obama’s policies are pretty by-the-book center-right”…. the room started spinning…. I realized I was laughing so hard I forgot to breath!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
“It says something about the mood of the country… and why it isn’t going to get any easier for the Dems for the next several election cycles!!!”
Pop political science for a penny. How quaint. In the blogosphere, everybody’s an expert, and yet, for many, it says more about the mood of the older folks who vote in mid-terms and the state of the economy. So-called conservatives go bonkers whenever a Democrat president is elected. Conservatives have made no inroads with the growing segments of the population.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Chuck – It would probably be good for you to study the facts and develop your own opinions instead of copy-pasting something from a conservative commentator on The Examiner.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
“Many of the people raging against “gubmint takeover of healthcare” are completely oblivious as to how much their quality of life would improve thanks to a U.S. version of single-payer.”
Or how much the economy would improve with massive bailouts of Wall Street! If only people knew…
Posted by: Above 8% | January 25, 2011, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“Something to ponder….. why does the most liberal POTUS in 50 years feel the NEED to veer to the “right” to protect his chances of re-election??? — It says something about the mood of the country… and why it isn’t going to get any easier for the Dems for the next several election cycles!!!”
It has to do with a phenomenon called the Overton Window. Judging by the reactions that followed when I pointed out that Obama is a center-right corporatist, many people here are apparently unfamiliar with this.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
PROGRESSIVEMAMA —– You said “if 53% of voters vote for you after you campaigned on reforming health care” —— Yes, BOTH sides preached “healthcare reform” in the last election…….. but the public didn’t count on a 2,700-page bill granting 1,968 powers to the APPOINTED Secretary of Health and Human Services….. and creating 159 NEW boards, bureaucracies, and programs!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“Or how much the economy would improve with massive bailouts of Wall Street! If only people knew… ”
When did I say anything at all about Wall Street? It’s almost as though you believe that holding favorable opinions on some of the administration’s actions means you must be lock-step in supporting them all. What a horrible viewpoint to have.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Posted by: shivadas | Jan 25, 2011 3:01:17 PM
You’re attacking the messenger instead of debunking the facts in the post, which incidentally came from the HHS.
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Judging by the reactions that followed when I pointed out that Obama is a center-right corporatist, many people here are apparently unfamiliar with this. -
And cheaply bought too…
Posted by: Sachs Machine | January 25, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Shivadas —— You said “Obama is a center-right corporatist” —— OK, I’ll bite…. please tell me WHY you believe this!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
The House Republican’s repeal bill will increase the deficit by almost $150 billion, increase the number of people at risk of bankruptcy, repeal a $110 billion middle-class tax credit and weaken Medicare’s solvency. And the wingnuts yell “boo-yah.” They just aren’t serious people.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
shivadas —- I said “private insurance companies will be out of business within 10-15 years” — You said “If you have a source for this… I’d love to see it.” —— My sources are Barach Obama, Barney Frank, and Berkley Professor Jacob Hacker (the chief architect of Obamacare) —– There is video of ALL of them saying that “single-payer” is their primary GOAL… and how they were sneaking their way into it!!! —– Now you don’t have to get much better sources.. huh????? — Watch for my next post…. I’ll tell you how it will happen (IF the GOP doesn’t stop it)!!!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Anybody else find it funny that he’s deciding to do this now that Republicans control the House?
If they do the job *I* sent them there to do, they don’t need this reminder, but instead a tape recorder to play back to the Prez later on.
Posted by: Tim | January 25, 2011, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Maybe Mitch McConnell shouldn’t feel left out after all. Before the midterm election, the New York Times reported that it took 18 months for Barack Obama to get around to meeting with the Senate Minority Leader, despite Obama’s promises to work across the aisle and to become a post-partisan President. This week, John Heileman reports for New York Magazine that McConnell fared better than some Democrats did, including a half-dozen appointed by Obama to his Cabinet. During the first two years of his presidency, Obama didn’t bother to confer with them at all — not even so much as a phone call.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 25, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Center right is a good description. He’s spent trillions of taxpayer dollars supporting large corporations (i.e. bailouts), he’s acquiesced to all sorts of GOP demands, and none of his policies can be considered particularly leftist (unless you’re so far to the right that you think everything left of Reagan is “socialist” — though unfortunately, a lot of people actually think this way).
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Yes, it’s Talk Like a Republican Day at the White House. Words, just words.
Socialism is for the people, not the socialists…
Posted by: jgalt11 | January 25, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Shivadas —— You said “Obama is a center-right corporatist” —— OK, I’ll bite…. please tell me WHY you believe this!!!
Ask Jeffery Immelt. The whole lefty thing is just a show for the suckers like Progressive Mama and the like. They fall for it every time.
Posted by: Easy $ | January 25, 2011, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Shivadas —— You said “Obama is a center-right corporatist” —— OK, I’ll bite…. please tell me WHY you believe this!!!
Ask Jeffery Immelt. The whole lefty thing is just a show for the suckers like Progressive Mama and the like. They fall for it every time.
Posted by: Easy $ | January 25, 2011, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
“Watch for my next post…. I’ll tell you how it will happen (IF the GOP doesn’t stop it)!!!!!!”
Let me stop you there before you hurt yourself. I didn’t ask you how single-payer would eliminate the need for private insurance– that’s obvious. I asked you for a source on how the weak health care bill currently in existence would put insurance companies out of business in 10-15 years, as you claimed.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
progressivemama —- You said “The House Republican’s repeal bill will increase the deficit by almost $150 billion” —— ANOTHER left-wing propaganda bulletin!!!!! ——- Even the CBO now says Obamacare “raises the debt”… but how can that be when the CBO scored the bill in 2009 and declared it would cut the deficit by $147 Billion? — When the CBO measures the “debt”, they look at all interaction of all fiscal policies affected by the bill, NOT just the figures placed in front of them by the DEMS when “scoring a bill”! Looking at the big picture, the CBO can take into account that $70 Billion in class act premiums are being double counted, $53 Billion in social security taxes are being double counted, $398 Billion in Medicare cuts are being double counted, $115 Billion in new appropriations needed to hire the beauracracy that wasn’t counted in the bill, and $208 Billion for the “doc fix” that was removed into its own “stand-alone” bill. The truth is when ObamaCare is fully implemented it could cost as much as $2.6 trillion. — – COMMENT progressive mama????????
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Obama… too little, too late! You should have thought about this the day you became president, not months later when you helped spend us into poverty.
Posted by: Bob | January 25, 2011, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Shivadas — “trillions of taxpayer dollars supporting large corporations” —- This is called Keynesian Economics, that the government can “spend” its way out of a recession….. not very “right wing”!! —- Also, the bailouts to companies made them beholden to Obama and made some of them “government owned” for a while (or even now)… yeah… very “right wing”!! … and “stimulus” to the states had strings attached…..forcing them to promise to spend more money in the future that could lead them closer to bankrupcy (and therefore dependence on the FED… can you say California!!)
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Sounds pretty good to me, Loyal Opp. Single-payer would be fantastic for our country.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
A budget FREEZE is woefully INADEQUATE!! The Republicans/Independents are going to DEMAND (as the citizenry wants) a REDUCTION in spending to pre-2006 levels. Using the newspeak-like term “investment” repeatedly tonight will just expose Obama as the TAX AND SPENDER that he TRULY is….
Posted by: Todd P. | January 25, 2011, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
“Single-payer would be fantastic for our country.”
Except that we already have a single-payer system called Medicare, and it’s insolvent with nearly $78 trillion in unfunded mandates.
Posted by: Chuck | January 25, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“”"”Single-payer would be fantastic for our country. “”"”"
Posted by: shivadas
Wow, craniums are thicker everyday. So you are OK with our President underhandidly trying to circumvent a system that has survived over 200 years to get his agenda through? How about he just write it into the legislation and put it up to vote? Oh wait, he did and it was soundly rejected by his own party (remember public option and the Blue Dogs)? Stop defending what can’t be defended.
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Progressivemama said “I’ve always said he was a centrist, slightly center-left but over time he’s proven to be center-center. Examples include the health care bill, the financial regulation bill” ———- HUH??? — His two largest big-government power grabs prove him to be a “centrist”????? —– I guess thats NOT how most of America saw it as they punched the Dem donkey in the mouth last November!!!! —- You are just TOO FUNNY!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Posted by: Todd P. | Jan 25, 2011 3:30:30 PM
Well, that is interesting since the Republican House leadership isn’t even willing to go out on a limb and fully embrace the RSC’s proposal (or Ryan’s road map)and all polling suggests otherwise. It isn’t nearly the priority for most people that you think it is. What is (hint: jobs and the economy).
lol.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Hey, Sam from Yukon, you’re confusing conservatives with liberals; we don’t want Obama to die (like the libs for Bush) we just want his destructive policies gone but wish him a wonderful life, outside of politics.
Posted by: joe K | January 25, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I’ve always said he was a centrist, slightly center-left but over time he’s proven to be center-center. Examples include the health care bill, the financial regulation bill, foreign policy, FISA, etc. The suckers seem to be those on the right wee-weeing all over themselves because an alleged Muslim communist anti-business corporatist is in office. (And did we mention, he’s *black”, stage whisper on the *black*)–
Why didn’t you ask Mr. Immelt?
Posted by: Easy $ | January 25, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
shivadas — I never doubted that YOU wanted “single-payer” —– but then why doesn’t the Dems just come out and preach their intentions to the public…. get elected on how you REALLY feel… not what you say!?!?!?!?! —- I guess the Dems are too squeemish for that….. they would rather place the country in a position where tey had no choice… I’m sure they think lying is just for the “good” of the people… shhh, don’t tell them!!!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I’m not disagreeing that Medicare is full of problems. A universal single-payer system that addresses and fixes these problems would be a much better idea, and is definitely within the realm of possibility. The trouble is, Medicare is political kryptonite. If you so much as hint at wanting to change or eliminate Medicare, you’re liable to anger elderly people and baby boomers, both of which are groups that tend to lean to the right. Yes, they rail against socialism all day long, but they become outraged by the prospect of losing their government-provided health care.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
progressivemama — I don’t need to read progressive propaganda when the CBO has ADMITTED that their earlier assessment of Obamacare was WRONG!!! —– Laying out all the facts…. Obamacare will INCREASE the deficit… and will be a HUGE burden on America… and will only grow larger!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | Jan 25, 2011 3:35:38 PM
Yes, see power grabs made by Reagan, Bush, Bush, Clinton, etc. It’s a right wing/neocon – centrist/moderate thang.
That isn’t to say I don’t agree with Russ Feingold on this:
“I’m going to be supporting President Obama. I don’t see it as productive to go after, and basically make it very difficult for, somebody to be re-elected who I think has, at least in a number of areas, some progressive instincts. I think there’s still great opportunity for him. So I’m not one who believes that a primary challenge that would weaken him in a serious way is a good idea. Now, I understand some people are of the opinion that a challenge would strengthen him; but I’m a little bit skeptical. I look at these Republican candidates [laughs] and I know pretty well who I want to be president. You know, this is serious business, when you see what these people [Republicans] want to do. You give them a president, and we are really in trouble.”
(See his whole interview with The Nation. Feingold is actually a progressive, firmly on the left, rather than a centrist with some good progressive instincts as he describes Obama. )
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
ABC News 3 keys to speech, Tension, Tone, and Theatrics. Hey I have an idea, how about Tell the Truth Tonight? This is a State of the Union Address, which is supposed to let us know the State of the Union. Clever huh?
Posted by: lfrichar | January 25, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
• While the Democrats rightfully gripe about Bush taking a $200 BILLION Dollar into a $200 BILLION Dollar deficit in 8 years they ignore what Obama has done in 2 years. He has taken a $200 Billion Dollar deficit and turned it into a $1500 Billion Dollar deficit, This in only TWO YEARS. To see the real damage you have to look at deficit to GDP ratio. Bush had the deficit at 2% of the GDP, Obama has taken this to 12% of the GDP! I know Obama is beginning to see this, but it’s already too late for our children. They will be strapped with this debt for years after we are gone. I just hope the liberals wake up before it is too late for our grandchildren.
Posted by: Rich | January 25, 2011, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | Jan 25, 2011 3:42:02 PM
Simply put, you have many things wrong and are trafficking in propaganda yourself, unwittingly or not.
The House Republican’s repeal bill will increase the deficit by almost $150 billion, increase the number of people at risk of bankruptcy, repeal a $110 billion middle-class tax credit and weaken Medicare’s solvency. On some of your other points, see “The Lie That Just Won’t Die: Doc Fix Whopper Rises Again” , New CBO Analysis: GOP’s Push For Health Law Repeal Would Increase Deficit By $230 Billion Over 10 Years; Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2 @ the CBO blog, CBO Analysis of Bill to Repeal the Health Care Reform Law @ Kaiser along with commentary
Posted by: progressive mama | January 25, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“So you are OK with our President underhandidly trying to circumvent a system that has survived over 200 years to get his agenda through?”
Aside from the fact that nothing about the bill was “underhanded,” are you REALLY going to try to use this argument? Think carefully before you do this. Going around saying “why can’t things in America be the way they were 200 years ago” is not going to end well for you.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Yeah…. its too bad Obama wasn’t “lazer-focused” on jobs and the economy when he was making his 100 speeches touting Obamacare!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“shivadas — I never doubted that YOU wanted “single-payer” —– but then why doesn’t the Dems just come out and preach their intentions to the public…. get elected on how you REALLY feel… not what you say!?!?!?!?! —- I guess the Dems are too squeemish for that”
This is the only thing you have posted which comes remotely close to being correct.
Posted by: shivadas | January 25, 2011, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Cut out the bs..earmarks ..freeze..bs!
Obama and the commiecrats loaded the govt programs with sooo much spending fat they could live for decades.Spending on dumo-edcation up 200% EPA up 150% ..the list goes on.
CUT CUT CUT .everything 205 across the board eveything defense,welfare,immigration..
Obam, is lying as usual
Posted by: bigbiz2 | January 25, 2011, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Shivadas said “Aside from the fact that nothing about the bill (Obamacare) was “underhanded,” ——- Ha ha ha ha …. yeah, I guess that since Pellosi didn’t even read it until it was passed….. and the American public didn’t see the 1,968 powers to the APPOINTED Secretary of Health and Human Services….. and the 159 NEW boards, bureaucracies, and programs …… nO, it wasnt’ shoved down our throats!!!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | January 25, 2011, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Lets freeze the budget except for education and infrastructure- translation: lets give teachers (democrats) and unions (democrats) money and not give money to any other programs. In other words lets only give money to people who will vote democrat. He is so partisan and deceitful its sickening.
Posted by: Paulie | January 25, 2011, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
You don’t freeze spending at the extraordinary “emergency” levels from the past two years! Government spending in the past two years was like doubling fertilizer for a plant and expecting the plant to grow trice as fast. It usually kills the plant instead!
Posted by: Voice_Reason | January 25, 2011, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Look, Obama is a MASTER HYPNOTIST. He works best in a live environment. Don’t watch him on video! Read what he has to say tomorrow!
Posted by: Timuchin | January 25, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Bicker, bicker, bicker…call names…insult each others intelligence….sheesh…and we wonder why the government can’t get anything done….
Posted by: Annoyed | January 25, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Not good enough Prez Baby.
Try returning to 2006 spending levels.
Posted by: Noz | January 25, 2011, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
“I’m a strong believer that the earmarking process in Congress isn’t what the American people really want to see when it comes to making tough decisions about how taxpayer dollars are spent,” the president said. “And I, in the rush to get things done, had to sign a bunch of bills that had earmarks in them, which was contrary to what I had talked about. And I think folks look at that and they said, ‘Gosh, this feels like the same partisan squabbling, this seems like the same ways of doing business as happened before.’”
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Funny thing is, IF he had the bills posted for the American public to see as he promised to do on the campaign trail, WE could have told him before hand “hey, hold on a minute, we don’t want you to ‘rush’ and sign these things, they are loaded with earmarks and we’d rather have a sensible approach to this than you just whisking your pen across it.” But, like so many other promises that the American Idol president put out there, allowing us to see what’s going on just didn’t pan out. Shocking…
Posted by: Shoe | January 25, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
A spending freeze means we would continue going into debt at the same pace, $14 trillion and rising.
EXCEPT, our credit want be that good. You have about ruined the dollar, Demos and RINOS.STOP
Posted by: Jack Kinch(1uncle) | January 25, 2011, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Excuse me, Barry is only proposing a PARTIAL spending freeze, which means all his cronies will still get hefty increases in their booty!
Posted by: JacqueBauer | January 25, 2011, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
The dems have been in control since 2006 and today it is all the Reps fault. Cannot wait until tonight. It has been a long time since I watched a funny cartoon show.
Posted by: Jim Rod | January 25, 2011, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Kindergartener learn to color within the lines! Most politicians do not feel staying within the lines applies to them because they are the next Leonardo da Vinci! Sadly this is not the case.
Posted by: Voice_Reason | January 25, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
A partial budget freeze? That’s like being partially pregnant… it ain’t so. It’s nothing more then the usual platitudes and rhetoric from the silver tongue felon. The words mean nothing to real America only the ones who follow him blindly. He created this debt with Pelosi and Read now we got to listen to his lies tonight. I can’t believe the Republicans went along with the cherade of sitting with the dems. Another feeble attempt to hide their minority status and the Republicans bought it. Democrats at their old tactics of lies and deceit with the help of the press like ABC. But real American is on to you and the democrats.
Posted by: Dave | January 25, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
A budget freeze!!!???? A budget FREEEEZZZEEE!!!!????!!! The current budget is $1.4 trillion. A freeze ain’t gonna do ANYTHING! We need MASSIVE budget cuts and FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. I am sure that BO will give fiscal responsibility lip service in his speech (he is a good liar), but he will not mean a word he says. He’s just trying to reactivate his Svengali spell over the weak minded and gullible.
Posted by: Rick | January 25, 2011, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
New drinking game. Every time Barry calls for new spending, by whatever euphemism he might choose, drink up America.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 25, 2011, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Spending freeze isn’t nearly good enough, especially when so many public sector union workers are already overpaid grossly and there are too many goverment jobs. A freeze is wimpy, we need to cut entitlements and jobs.
Posted by: Steve in PA | January 25, 2011, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The hypocrisy of the GOP supporters is truly stunning. Suddenly the President and his party should acquiesce to the republican mandate of 2010 and forget that the republicans ignored a bigger mandate from the voters in 2008. Suddenly spending is a problem because it was done by a Democrat trying to save the sinking ship of state after the profligate spend thrift GOP nearly scuttled it.
Posted by: James Bowen | January 25, 2011, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Huh interesting that – crank spending through the roof – pass a pork stuffed bill then turn around and say “let’s do the right thing and limit everything from now on” – total empty gimmick – who wouldn’t think this is a good idea but then again why would anyone trust you either?
Posted by: meso | January 25, 2011, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
TheLoyalOpposition :”but the public didn’t count on a 2,700-page bill granting 1,968 powers to the APPOINTED Secretary of Health and Human Services….. and creating 159 NEW boards, bureaucracies, and programs!!!”
What the heck are you talking about?? The only bill pertaining to health care had less that a thousand pages including the reconciliation. PLEASE try to be factual and stop repeating GOP myths and fantasies.
Posted by: James Bowen | January 25, 2011, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Budget freeze?…The sad part is, most Americans will believe he’s on “the right track”. Now that we’re solidly on the path to self destruction…let’s hold it there! He’s a genius.
Posted by: Paco | January 25, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Obama is a liar. He doesn’t care about earmarks as long as they go to minority welfare, unions or special interest groups helping with his re-election. He will continue to spend us into bankruptcy until we send him home to Chicago. An Obama ‘investment’ is just more credit card spending to teacher unions and green companies who kick back donations to him.
Posted by: betsp | January 25, 2011, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Neither party has stopped using earmarks and porkbarrel, at least no longer than a few days. As far as not spending more funds than they have, Republicans generally promise it, but neither party does it. Both are concerned about health care costs going up and neither have stopped the rapid increase. Both express concern about Social Security, but both raid the extra money that Social Security brings in and spend it on other things. Both speak for the American public, but both work for themselves, their party, and the rich and powerful because they have a working relationship with their lobbists and deep pockets for elections. Quit complaining about this President when previous Presidents have done the same things. You need to get mad at both parties for creating these dishonest arguments that wastes our time when we should be angry at both parties for real reasons. Judge both parties by what they have accomplished and not by their words.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 25, 2011, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Its a catch 22; Even though freezing the budget and not adding a single extra entitlement will bankrupt this country by 2020 the idiot Reps who are sitting amongst the wolves will either B) Not applaud and appear that they are FOR spending or A) Applaud and look like they think Obama is right on. Either way, the liberal media will know how to make this appear to the 95% of the public who doesn’t normally watch the news. Not only should they not have “dated” each other for this event because some wacko liberal shot a Congresswoman, they shouldn’t even share the chamber with this manipulator. Once the deficit gets up to 20 tril, 1/3 of what we take in will be spent on interest alone…The flag burners want to cave in the country so they can take advantage of the Ultimate crisis and be our slave masters. Everything is going according to plan..
Posted by: chino | January 25, 2011, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
A freeze on spending for fy 2010? Are you kidding? By the group and leader who spent like no one else, ever. Spending $1.65 for every $1 of revenue. With a track record like that, only a fool would think it is a good idea at that level.
Let’s get groundups making groundup decisions. Listen to Ryan this eve.
Posted by: Huh? Too Late. | January 25, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Making bogus arguments does nothing to improve government.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 25, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Don’t worry about what he will say today. Watch Diane Soyer and the whole hosts of every networks and cables will sing the OB’s songs no matter what he says, what the facts are. I suggest all of you that today’s speech and the one of last year and take a close look with three things in mind: Jobs, spending, home price. All of this what he has promised and what he has done so far is disastrous, and disgracefull, dangerous. I don’t believe any words spill from his mouth. But this time I want to check whether the media people have brains or not or they just close their eyes and ears then sing and praise their extremist lest OB whatever he throws up
Posted by: tom | January 25, 2011, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
The war of choice [Iraq] is now in the trillions and Bush’s “tax cuts” were the greatest shift in personal wealth in the nation’s history. The watchword for BOTH Democrats and Republicans is accountability. Unless I’m missing something the President has no where come close to the trillion mark nor the extension of the billions. We have to work together but the shift for responsibility is uncalled for. When my child is sick I first look to why and what I had to do with it.
Posted by: Gatheringofdoves | January 25, 2011, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Honestly, what I’ve come to realize about Republicans is this: Republicans just hate Obama. He takes the moderate position and agrees to a compromise deal to cut taxes, and Republicans say it isn’t enough. He proposes a moratorium on budget increases. Republicans call him names. I’ve just come to realize that I just don’t like Republicans, pure and simple. Especially not aggressive, neo-con war mongering hypercapitalist republicans. I just think they’re bad people. I will never vote for them. I will never like them. Nothing Obama can ever do will make you agree with him, or respect him. It’s just pure bias, nothing else. Talking to republican is like talking to a child. And I’m just here to let you know: my whole generation is through with you guys. You’re an embarrassment to our country. You’ve been bought by greedy corporations. You’ve done nothing about real issues like our nation being inundated by third world immigration. And it’s over. Republicans will not hold power in thirty years. If we’re lucky the party will disintegrate and one with a bit of integrity will crop up in time. If we’re really lucky, the entire federal government will collapse. But really, republicans are an embarrassment. They make it hard to like even one of them. They’re just bad people. It’s harder not to stereotype them than it is not to stereotype black people… Really, I just had to say this. It was like an urge I needed to get off my back. The things you guys say about Obama… the guy is doing the best he can in a terible, violent political environment, and frankly he’s hardly equipped or wise enough to deal with the real, true, politically incorrect dilemmas facing our country. Sad though, really sad. Yeah we’re screwed. You know why? Because we’re lost as a nation. The left is insane. The right is more insane. I mean we can’t get anything right, not even partially. We are a nation of idiots; bona fide, ideologue idiots. Idiots who totally believe with absolute certitude in their absurd, illogical, prejudiced, irrational, often perverse thoughts. That is the scariest kind of idiot there is.
Posted by: Anthony Platt | January 25, 2011, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Talk, talk, talk. Silence. No Action. What he should say is “that today my fellow Americans, I HAVE frozen all foreign aid, rolled back the budget to 1999, paid out all pension money to government employers and their will be no more pensions from this day forward. Well, he has brown eyes, so you know what that means.
Posted by: 14401 | January 25, 2011, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
While it won’t make a noticeable dent in the deficit, it will prevent both parties from buying votes with earmarks. Too many earmarks are quietly slipped in, just to get someone to vote for a bill that they wouldn’t otherwise vote for in good conscience.
If nothing else, it emphasizes a mindset to reduce spending. We all have to live within our means. It’s about time our government started doing the same.
Posted by: e | January 25, 2011, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama,Pelosi,and Reid feel the health-care bill is their greatest achievement.My question is if this bill is so great why did they pass a bill exempting themselves from it……Wasn’t this bill for everyone?
Posted by: Richard Oz Mesa AZ | January 25, 2011, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
“Honestly, what I’ve come to realize about Republicans is this: Republicans just hate Obama….
You complain about Republicans calling the president names, and then proceed to post a long post of name calling directed at Republicans..
Posted by: Sigmonde | January 25, 2011, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Great. Let congress agree to no longer take ear marks and then have Obama garantee that the executive branch will not take the unused earmarked money and distribute it for their pet projects. Have Obama put a little skin in the game. It is about time he came out of hiding and faced the American people with his ambitions and policies. Try a little transparency Barrack.
Posted by: MGFree | January 25, 2011, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
A budget freeze? Give me a break. How is freezing a budget that has been $1.5 trillion in the red for the past 3 years going to solve the budget crisis? Nice try Comrade. As for earmarks, didn’t he try that line when he got elected then produce a bailout bill with over 5,000 earmarks in it. The man is a habitual liar and if the Republicans don’t remind the public of these lies then they’re idiots also. As for the public, many will know that he’s just lying but many of the independent morons that voted for him might still believe him.
Posted by: COMountainguy | January 25, 2011, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
It’s a waste of time to even talk about a budget when we can’t even pay off the US national debt. The interest alone on the debt is $1 trillion per year. Where is this trillion coming from from? Welcome to Zimbabwe II.
Posted by: JoeNJ | January 25, 2011, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Talk is cheap!
Posted by: Bob W | January 25, 2011, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Lies, lies and more lies — all to prop up the house of cards that ultimately will collapse. Nothing will change except the rich will get richer and the poor will become poorer — and the middle class will discover what it means to be poor.
Posted by: Bob W | January 25, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
MSNBC and Fox News — opposite sides of the same propaganda machine that fuels divisiveness and distraction among the people — all while the banksters grow their hoards of ill-gotten riches with the aid of their paid-off politicians. Mr. President, fess up and expose the lies and you’ll have the people behind you. Keep on being a sock puppet President (like Bush) and your legacy will end up in the dustbin of world history.
Posted by: Bob W | January 25, 2011, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
He’s going to ask Congress to end the special tax breaks for the oil companies – let’s see how the paid-off Congressional puppets get out of that one.
Posted by: The_Mick | January 25, 2011, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Nat’l Journal version of the SOTU is about 6,800 words. Gettysburg Address:272. Decl of Independ: 1,458, Constitution: 4,543
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 25, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
To Obama on Education; what we need to do is bring Prayer and God back into our schools, not better teachers, money and all that. The problem is we took God out of our schools and prayer as well. Thats the best recepie for better students.Also he says that the illegal students in our schools had nothing to do what their parents did, they had nothing to do but they are out there protesting against illegall imigration calling Obama and the rest of the politicians dummies, clowns, racists and a whole lot of other bad names.The politicians dont really care about them, what they care about is votes! Also he mentioned that this illegalls pay allegieance to our Flag: thats baloney as Judge Judy says.They go around raising the mexican flag everywhere they can with their viva mejico yell. If they love mexico so much what are they doing here? What they are doing here is taking advantage of our freeby programs and send their money to mexico.How blind and deaf can obama and the rest of the politicians be!Our schools are for the American kids (students)not illegalls.Im sorry if I sound rude but me and others feel the same way, we are tired of whats going on in this country.
Posted by: Bill Rodriquez | January 25, 2011, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Obama says he is going to create more jobs and put money in peoples pockets. Yea hes creating more jobs so people like you and me go work and some of our money goes into lazy peoples pocket, thats distributing the wealth. Thats what he wants to do, give to all those people that dont go work, wear baggy pants and caps backwards and selling drugs. Thats who he wants to help out in the long run those people that sleep late no job to report to and run around at night stealing what you and me worked hard for and partying and drug activities.You know which people Im talking about!
Posted by: Bill Rodriquez | January 25, 2011, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I know exactly which people you are talking about, Bill. Don’t be shy – name them: Bank of America, AIG, JP Morgan Chase, et al
Posted by: Flash Override | January 25, 2011, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
The Master of Illusion is Back !
Posted by: btrask3 | January 25, 2011, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Wonderful speech. As usual he is well spoken and well understood. I am proud to have such a caring and bright man as our President I just hope everyone will work together for the good of the people and not their own political agenda. Everything including education seems to be overtaken by politics it’s really a shme that it has been politics before people
Posted by: Merri | January 25, 2011, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I wish some of you would go to fact check and see who wants all the pork that has been stuffed into the bills and to see how many of your politicans who voted against the stimulus had their hands out before the ink even dried on that bill. And remember where the stimulus came from lets not forget that.
Posted by: Merri | January 25, 2011, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Nothing was said about the brake down of the Meantal Health programs in this country and what will be done to improve them such as the AFC Homes all being money pits and taking all the money’s away from the consumers who have to live their and why not keep the con sumers in school and teach them what they want to learn so they can have a sence of accomplishment sudent teacher’s should tuter them for their grade’s in school so that their are not at home doing nothing most of the time
Posted by: Diane | January 25, 2011, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
The President is a rock star. It is so great that he cares what more could we ask for. He wants all of us to be financial fit and healthy. Repulicans need to look in the mirror and see that the people they represent are like all of us. Listen to the President and we will be better off. GREAT SPEECH!!!
Posted by: Kim Johnson | January 25, 2011, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
His speech was a “spirit of the nation” and I thought it was fantastic, if only they could do everything that was in his speech, including holding the rich accountable for their fair share of taxes. Without a balance in this nation we will fall and the balance is the middle class.
Posted by: Nancy Taylor | January 25, 2011, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Obama’s worst speech ever, ego of nothing.
Posted by: firedup49 | January 25, 2011, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
President Obama’s speech tonight was the assurance, we as the United States needed. Throughout the State of Union I was encouraged and honored to call him my president. Touching on some of his topics this evening such as Education, Solar Energy, Advances in Technology, Reforming Government, and Universal Health Care are all things I deeply believe in that are going to greater our nation. We need to stop referring to our founders for the answers and looking to invest in tomorrow. Thats the American dream I proudly believe in.
Posted by: great-heartedcollegestudent | January 25, 2011, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
As always, I am extremely proud of what President Obama is trying to accomplish….We need to all be open minded and willing to try new things…..And, we must unite and do it together……..I thought the speech was very much on point with the issues at hand; which hopefully will be resolved in a more timely manner that in the past. We need to be patient and supportive of the changes that need to be made in order for us to have a better America. As the late Walt Disney said, “All dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.” Let’s walk the talk and realize that we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable. We need to unite for the common good for all of our sakes…God Bless America…..Continued Blessings to President Obama and his cabinet.
Posted by: DOLORES | January 25, 2011, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
The President made a great speech, he is for moving the country forward, create jobs, reduces taxes, cut spending, end wars, restructure the government system, challenge teachers to do better in schools, etc.
The Global World has changed, our track record has falling behind in all phases of economics.
It’s time for our OLD Government system too change. We need leaders who will stand for that change, take on the challenges make the adjustments to put this great nation back on top.
Posted by: dcool1 | January 25, 2011, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Pres. Obama is a wonderfully accomplished performer. In preparation for the 2012 elections we must watch closely through the smoke and mirrors to see what is done. Will the Mexican/U.S.A. border be closed? Will mortgage foreclosures slow then stop? Will teachers receive more pay for the same poor job? Will earmarks stop?
Posted by: Hansen | January 25, 2011, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
As far as the spending freeze is concerned, I hope that doesn’t mean that AGAIN, us on Social Security will have a cost of living freeze for another 5 years. We haven’t had a cost of living allowance for over 2 years now. I guess keeping us poor is the way to go.
Posted by: Sigh | January 26, 2011, 12:49 am 12:49 am
He says he will freeze spending and at the same time proposes new spending on government projects – suggesting doubling of previous spending.
Posted by: Sigmonde | January 26, 2011, 8:37 am 8:37 am
I’m going to buy a Mercedes Benz, and a house in Hollywood and then freeze my spending..
The speech was the usual Pres Barry rhetoric, no plan to increase jobs, no plan to cut the deficit,no leadership provided, just some pie in the sky challenges.
How about some leadership in problem solving? Get unemployment down below 8%, figure out how to get 350000 new jobs every month from the private sector.
Pres Barry has done nothing in his life but talk. Twenty more months to produce results Pres Barry or be replaced.
Posted by: bl | January 26, 2011, 9:02 am 9:02 am
I see the ceriticism in reference to Barak’s speech Onace Again is in full bloom.Paul Ryan’s Republican response was full of obama didn’t say or do this that and the third and the same ol our children will have to pay for this and that. Okay we understand that, we’ve heard it over and over again but when will the Republicans produce any jobs. It’s almost february. What are the Republicans going to produce besides a bunch of criticism and talk.
Posted by: vanessa penney | January 26, 2011, 9:24 am 9:24 am
“And I, in the rush to get things done, had to sign a bunch of bills that had earmarks in them, which was contrary to what I had talked about. ”
Ooops…6000 plus earmarks but I was too busy to notice..
Posted by: Sigmonde | January 26, 2011, 9:26 am 9:26 am
“What are the Republicans going to produce besides a bunch of criticism and talk.”
Liberals said the same thing when Republicans won House majority under Clinton. Look at the unemployment numbers from 1993 to 2007 and compare 2007 to present when democrats had control.
Posted by: Sigmonde | January 26, 2011, 9:35 am 9:35 am
vanessa penny, you know what I noticed about Paul Ryan’s response? No specifics but a healthy dose of vague ideological corn pone and a metaphor of leisure to talk about suffering. Not to mention what a boring public speaker he is.
At Salon, I read this, which is perfect: “The president was lucky to have not one but two GOP rebuttals, and they were equally strange and dishonest. Rep. Paul Ryan railed against the deficit without proposing even one specific cut. He didn’t talk about his own infamous “Roadmap,” maybe because most analysts have called it a budget buster, even though it essentially replaces Social Security and Medicare with vouchers. The Congressional Budget Office estimates Ryan’s plan wouldn’t balance the budget until 2063, and would add $62 trillion to the debt by then. Citizens for Tax Justice said Ryan’s Roadmap raises taxes on 9 out of 10 taxpayers and while slashing them for the wealthiest.
Wisely, Ryan talked about none of that.”
Posted by: Cheri | January 26, 2011, 9:51 am 9:51 am
While the president gave an uplifting speech last night and said what we could accomplish with cooperation and working together, Mr. Ryan gave a somber sinking feeling speech. While we all realize cuts need to be made Mr. Ryan wants to do away with medicaid and give out vouchers to the people. What happens to those with pre-existing conditions…what insurance company will take them without charging exorbident fees? What will happen to these people…they will wind up in the emergency rooms with no insurance and this will raise the deficit which we are trying to control. His ideas are useless and not practical at all. His gloom and doom response is not what this country needs. We need something uplifting like saying we can achieve great things and we will. Everyone is tired of feeling down and want some encouragement and that is what this president did last night. He was appealing to the republicans to ask that they stop this nonesense and start working together to achive things. Look at how successful he was in the lame duck session…more than any other president and still the reps. refuse to work with this man and only want to take down everything he has accomplished. Remember, it was Bush who gave out the first bailout and that the recession started in 2007 and Obama and Mc Cain did not want to give it but went along in a spirit of working together…something these republicans seem to forget and will not do. The success of this country depends on not repealling the health care bill which is fine…it depends on how adults act and how they will see that like the lame duck session….things can be accomplished and they can be done together. Never in the history of this nation has one party held up the success of a nation like this republican party. They say they are for the people..not true..the people want unity and it was they who did ot want the unemployment bill extended nor the money given to the 9/11victims. We all need to open our eyes and see just who really want to help this nation not just a party.
Posted by: talmag | January 26, 2011, 10:25 am 10:25 am
According to the piece on the Egyption riots shown on GMA this morning, America pays Egypt 1 billion dollors a year. Thats only one country. How many more countries do we help support? We, the American people can barely support this country let alone any other. I listened to the “State of the Union” address last night. All I heard was we need to make cuts, cuts, cuts. All talk, no action. I could care less where the Dems and Reps sit. I’m tired of supporting other countries, illegals, and the extravagant spending of the government. You want to know what to cut? Start here! It’s that simple. I want to know if all the money over the years comming out of my paychecks are going to be there for me when I retire (Social Security, Medicare).
Posted by: Leslie L | January 26, 2011, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
The Republicans should agree to freezing the budget to 2008 levels adjusted for inflation. As any Social Security recipient knows the government says that there has not been any inflation adjustment in benefits for the past two years!
Posted by: Voice_Reason | January 26, 2011, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
To Sigh and Voice of Reason, there hasn’t been a cost of living increase in Social Security payments in two years because the cost of living hasn’t gone up due to the recession. The COLA is determined by a formula set by federal law, and it roughly parallels the consumer price index, which hasn’t risen. This was all determined by federal law years ago. Notice in years past when the cost of living went up 5% that’s how much of a ‘raise’ social security recipients got. Only it isn’t really a raise, it just is supposed to cover higher costs of goods.
Posted by: Lydia | January 26, 2011, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
I love the idea of banning earmarks and a partial budget freeze.
The idea of signing good legislation with pork attached never was a good idea but an invitation for graft and bribery.
We need the partial budget freeze and a very careful look at other spending, such as military. After working in business for years, I can tell you every department tries to increase their budget yearly whether they need it or not. It is a way to look necessary and busy. Same with spending each year’s budget. Bosses would spend it on anything, (but increasing workers salaries) rather than give the money back. (One guy spent thousands illogically moving offices from one end of the building to the other at the end of the year, just to use up his budget.) For the military, I’m all for paying our troops better, less for the most expensive newest missiles rather than buying the old reliables. There is probably a lot of waste that could be cut out.
Great State of the Union speech!
Posted by: Lydia | January 26, 2011, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
We have given the defense a budget of something like 700 billion? slash this defense budget! we need nothing close to this!!!
Posted by: Cory Trevor | January 26, 2011, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm