Hu’s an Economic Threat?
Americans see more economic threat than opportunity in China, and divide almost evenly on whether they regard it as a friendly or unfriendly nation – results that underscore the challenging nature of relations between the two powers.
With President Hu Jintao visiting the United States – including a state dinner at the White House tonight – an ABC News/Washington Post poll finds that 47 percent of Americans see China as a friendly nation, while 44 percent regard it as unfriendly. Personal views tip the other way – 42 percent say their own opinion of China is favorable overall, 49 percent unfavorable.
While hardly warm, those could be worse, on two scores. One, Americans by a broad 61-29 percent in this poll, produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates, see China as more of a “threat to American jobs and economic security” than as “an opportunity for new markets and investment.” Also, China has been viewed much more negatively in the past; today’s 49 percent unfavorable rating compares to 58 percent in March 1990, a year after its crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square.
Similarly, while fewer than half, 47 percent, see China as friendly, that’s up from 39 percent in 1998 during a kerfuffle over alleged Chinese political contributions to the Democratic Party; and from just 28 percent in 2001, during an imbroglio over China’s detention of the crew of a damaged U.S. spy plane.
Then again, China’s also been rated much more favorably; in a show of support at the height of its pro-democracy movement, in April 1989, positive ratings of the country soared to 80 percent. That plummeted by 41 points after the suppression that followed.
In the current economic climate, views of China as an economic threat appear to have grown; 51 percent held this view in a Transatlantic Trends survey in June, compared with 61 percent now. The past six months of continued economic difficulties in the United States – juxtaposed with ongoing reports of China’s economic boom – could be a factor.
Obama, for his part, gets a tepid rating for his handling of relations with China – 43 percent approve and 35 percent disapprove, with a substantial 23 percent expressing no opinion.
There are differences among groups in views of China. Republicans and conservatives – especially Americans who call themselves “very” conservative – are more likely than their political opposites to see it unfavorably. And China is seen much more positively by young adults than by their elders.
Some differences are starkest in views of China as an economic threat. It’s lower (though still substantial) among young adults (52 percent among those age 18 to 29) and higher among older Americans (72 percent among seniors). It’s lower among better-educated adults (46 percent among those who’ve done postgraduate work) compared with two-thirds among those who haven’t completed college. And it’s 46 percent among people who rate the U.S. economy positively – but among Americans who say the economy’s in poor shape, views of China as an economic threat soar to 71 percent.
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Posted by: Brenda Grimes | January 19, 2011, 12:12 am 12:12 am
China is the silent invader, they will own the USA soon and no one does anything about it . Everything is made there and the US owes them soooooooooo much money it’s rediculous,Save Haiti, save a child in Africa, save this, save that, HELLO————– SAVE THE USA, wake up America !!!
Posted by: valerie myers | January 19, 2011, 12:18 am 12:18 am
China is, has and always will be a threat to the American way of life.
One only has to look at the oppressive manner in which they treat workers, prisoners and the general public; steal industrial secrets, make trading packs with country’s who are America’s sworn enemies. Don’t forget they are one of the top world polluters and couldn’t care less… They export poisonous food, toys and poorest quality goods and couldn’t care less how many people or pets suffer. It is rumored China kills prisoners with a gun shot to the head outside the prison because they can’t house, clothe and feed such a large population of wrong-doers.
When one country has over a billion people, many living in the countryside without any resources – except the regular visit from their Comrade from the Communist party to spy on everyone- they will do anything, seriously – they must – do anything just to survive. Don’t be fooled, a tiger doesn’t change their stripes. They all of a sudden look like they have embraced Capitalism and all the finer things of life in the West… Baloney! They merely want to make cheap goods to export to keep the Communist Party alive and well… Although now they keep the party rhetoric a little quieter than in the past. Don’t be fooled by the new mask at the Masked Ball!
Wake up America before we have to speak Mandarin to buy a quart of milk for our children!
Posted by: Coco | January 19, 2011, 12:42 am 12:42 am
China is a threat to the USA’s economy! Sadly, they aren’t the only country that is. We import so much more than we export. I know we can change and start taking more pride in our work and stop out sourcing jobs. It may be painful at first, but we must do it for our future generations! We live in the best country on earth and we have diversity, which is great, so we should all work together to show the world how strong we can be!
Posted by: Barbara Chaddick | January 19, 2011, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Whining, whining…Did China force anyone of you to purchase anything???
Posted by: SpockV | January 19, 2011, 1:00 am 1:00 am
We are a dumping ground for all their Subquality Junk…
They are now and will always be a threat to freedom…
Posted by: PKC | January 19, 2011, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Chinese people do not trust the Americans as usual, the United States is the world’s worst and arrogant country! Why did the” 911” happen in the United States but not other countries? That is reasonable.
Posted by: J20 | January 19, 2011, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Notice how the Yuan issue died immediately after the November elections… and now has resurfaced with full vengeance on the weeks before the China-US summit?
Another political gimmick. China’s Yuan appreciated 25% between 2005-2008 (before US made crisis) and US exports manufacturers grew negligbly.
Hey, Americans can’t see through their bias media scapegoating foreigners for their own domestic problems. Bad leadership.
Posted by: LOL | January 19, 2011, 1:46 am 1:46 am
“J20″— is most likely an anti-Chinese activist who spread spams in 2008 Olympics. We live in this world by our own credibility. There are people with good and bad credits in every country. Myself did not have problem in Europe, America, or China anywhere. I am confident in every place. As this study showed, well educated are always confident and open minded. Poorly educated struggle in curse and despair everywhere, with nationalism, extremism, and racism.
Posted by: Wei_Quing_Shanghai_200034 | January 19, 2011, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Starve the Beast!
Posted by: bondservant1958 | January 19, 2011, 3:10 am 3:10 am
To all of you who keep bashing China: can you count to, let’s say, ten. If you can, then count the number of wars the US is raging since WWII, then count those China was involved in. Divide or subtract, as you whish, then start thinking…
Posted by: Laaz | January 19, 2011, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Friend or foe? It depends on how one feels about the missle launch off the coast of California a couple months ago.
Posted by: LongT | January 19, 2011, 4:43 am 4:43 am
I don’t know if u are aware that American tv is translated in china shown to the general public, as in many other countries. America, wake up, we spread our culture and military industrial complex ubiquitously and now that the student has become master, we all of a sudden have sour grapes?
Posted by: H | January 19, 2011, 6:01 am 6:01 am
As our economy is wholly dependent on dwindling resources, the greatest threat to our economy isn’t from other countries, it’s from time itself. Even already the wholesale price of oil is a record high, wait till it doubles then quadruples (as it will do over coming decades).
Our grandkids are screwed regardless of China because of our (and our parents’) own selfish greed and inability to use unreplenishable resources (e.g. oil, metals) sustainably.
Posted by: John | January 19, 2011, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Simple Answers:
January 2001-U.S. Debt to China = 61.5 billion dollars
January 2009-U.S. Debt to China = 739.6 billion dollars
Looks like to some people, they were a “banking friend” to pay for a couple of wars while we introduced some “tax cuts”.
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | January 19, 2011, 6:22 am 6:22 am
China is not the threat. It is America’s greed from Wall Street to D.C. that is the real threat. There is a imperialistic view from our government and leaders. It is the mentality that has brought all great nations to an end. We just don’t have China to blame. We have NAFTA, CAFTA, Brazil, India. But they saw the Eagle came with promises of getting their people jobs. And we educated them and now we musty be like the British empire, ancient Rome. We have allowed this new world order which everyone from DC to Wall Street wanted. Our influence and our own greed has done us in. Good job to all the American people for voting to secure our definate demise.
Posted by: didit1959 | January 19, 2011, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Simple Answer:
January 1987 to January 1995 = 8 years of a Democratic congress and according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics data, the number of U.S. “Made In America” manufacturing jobs shrink by 200,000.
January 1995 to January 2007 = 12 years of a Republican congress and according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics data, the number of U.S. “Made In America” manufacturing jobs shrink by 3.3 million.
Posted by: Georgie Bushie | January 19, 2011, 6:42 am 6:42 am
Is China a friend or foe? If you treat an enemy like a friend, you may end up with a friend. If you treat a friend like an enemy, you will have an enemy.
Posted by: Ben Gee, Edmonton, Canada | January 19, 2011, 7:09 am 7:09 am
i like reading all your comments,u give me a chance to see different aspects of china ans america. all in all, we comment to call for something, which can make our life and the world better, i am a chinese but i do feel bad about some of the comments upstairs, i just think how can we make things better and reduce the nagative impression. to american friends, i very much appreciate your comments no matter positive or negative , u criticize our country,because we are friend and cooperator.can u imagine that china defeat us or us defeat china in all aspects? just like sibling,there have been always competition and something can not be accepted or understood. however, we share the same same dreams and burden. taking care of the little brothers and maintain the family.
Posted by: michael lee | January 19, 2011, 7:12 am 7:12 am
I wonder if Obama will bring up that missle launch off the coast of California?
Posted by: LongT | January 19, 2011, 7:34 am 7:34 am
The most populated country in the world is not a threat to he USA. China has risen to the world power status by being more American in its economic policy. Yes we desire change in China as we desire it in our own country but certain things will not change to our liking and our pace. That is just the way it is and will be. We should welcome the friendship of the American and Chinese people and also welcome the pleasant president of China. Communication is key to any successful relationship and both the USA and China are communicating their individual concerns and paying visits to each other. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. China has a lot to offer the world and we should accept the good that they have to offer with humility.
Posted by: GJKOTW01 | January 19, 2011, 7:34 am 7:34 am
…”fear”…LOL…LOL…exactly WHAT the Party of Cynicism, Fear, Negativity and Confrontation wants the people of the USA (or at least their dumbed down base) to feel. Thank goodness we have a more intelligent President and Secretary of State who are much BETTER than that. These two countries better find “common ground”. They hold the KEY to people’s lives in the world…in the 21st century.
Posted by: CND FOX | January 19, 2011, 7:51 am 7:51 am
I think we should break ties with China altogether. They don’t have any of our interests in mind other than the interest on the loans we owe them. And I see the impact of their one-sided trade practices on a daily basis.
One, the company I work for went from 260 employees prior to 2005, to 20 now, all because China can produce the same saccharin we did for a third the price. Why? Because they can pay their labor slave wages, they don’t have environmental controls to worry about, and their quality control is so lax we’ve found twigs and leaves in their product before.
Two, the company I work for owns a 49% share in a Chinese company making product for us to sell here, but we can’t really control what happens because the Chinese government, through its proxies, holds the other 51%.
Three, Chinese laws prohibit any US company doing business on Chinese soil to take any profits from that business back home in cash.
So anyone who thinks China is our friend is in for a rude awakening. They just want to bleed us dry.
Posted by: Jon | January 19, 2011, 8:06 am 8:06 am
“jon”…did you ever THINK that your company’s GREED was the problem…and not China’s? The Party of NO, Negativity and Fear understands how easy it is to “play on your emotions” especially when you are under “financial distress”. Until middle America holds that Party
ACCOUNTABLE for their “pandering” to the richest of the nation (which your company is a part of)…nothing will change. Anotherwords…until the “middle class” learns to think for itself rather than with their “emotions”…the Party of NO will take advantage of you. Its pretty much…that simple.
Posted by: CND FOX | January 19, 2011, 8:19 am 8:19 am
“Americans see more economic threat than opportunity in China” … Then quite buying their junk! If it says Made in China then don’t buy it if you don’t have too. Look for another brand made elsewhere (preferably in the USA) or do without if you can. And tell the stores you don’t want Made in China. Learn who carries Made in USA stuff and shop there.
Posted by: pgd | January 19, 2011, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Coco: you wrote “One only has to look at the oppressive manner in which they treat workers, prisoners and the general public; steal industrial secrets …Don’t forget they are one of the top world polluters and couldn’t care less” **** how is that different from the US?
Posted by: map2history | January 19, 2011, 9:05 am 9:05 am
“…just 28 percent in 2001, during an imbroglio over China’s detention of the crew of a damaged U.S. spy plane.” While that plane was still detained, I visited China in 2001 and was delighted to find that the Chinese public likes Americans very much. Even when clearly no tip was in store, we found that Chinese waiters and waitresses liked to hang around American tables. In Chongqing is the “Stillwell Museum”, honoring that WW2 American General who advised the Chinese and honoring Chenault’s “Flying Tigers” whose American pilots saved the Chinese Army. The government in Beijing would have liked the museum closed but the sign in front says in English: “We will never forget what the Americans did for us and look forward to a long friendship with America.”
Posted by: The_Mick | January 19, 2011, 9:05 am 9:05 am
This is xenophobia pure and simple. Its necessary to point out a few facts; 1) the American economy is being crushed under the wait of a military-industrial complex which devours more money than the REST OF THE WORLD’S MILITARIES COMBINED! Just as a point of reference, we have over 800 military bases worldwide, spend exorbitant amounts of money on R&D for obsolete weaponry (F-22, F-35, for instance), and outsource most services that the military used to take care of (food, laundry services for instance) so that we spend $750 billion (that’s only the amount we’re able to keep track of) PER YEAR! By contrast, everyone raised a big stink over the two TARP bailouts that account for roughly the same amount BUT WERE ONE TIME DEALS! How are the Chinese doing it? They’re spending on R&D (the useful, industrial kind), they’re focusing on improving their education, they’re creating manufacturing jobs. They spend about $70 billion on their military! And let’s not forget, that before we even begin to criticize them for human rights violations or pollution – the US is the world’s biggest polluter and we imprison roughly 2% of our population. Democracy? Don’t make me bring up the 2000 election. Let’s put our own house in order, AND THEN worry about the Chinese!
Posted by: map2history | January 19, 2011, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Hu’s visiting Obama today?
Hu’s visiting from China?
Hu’s a threat to the US?
Hu’s on first? I don’t know. 3rd base!
Posted by: Pretty Boy Floyd Boyd | January 19, 2011, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Foe, But then so are most of the US Companies that seem to throw money at the Chinese to manufacturer there. They will sell out there own country for market share. Do you really think the Chinese want to be our friends! Just keep those US dollars pouring in. The Chinese military and missles that attack the U.S. will have been sponsored, financed with the blessing of GE, Wal Mart and every other “U.S.” company that has sold out to the Chinese.
Posted by: Buckie | January 19, 2011, 10:28 am 10:28 am
“Pretty Boy Floyd Boyd”…a fan of the “big hair group” of the past…?
Posted by: CND FOX | January 19, 2011, 10:34 am 10:34 am
America imports 243.5 Billion dollars worth of goods from China,while we import 41.9 Billion dollars, is there something wrong with these figures???????? Either balance the numbers or stop China,s imports.
Posted by: sieben13 | January 19, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am
But China’s funding a good chunk of the resoundingly successful deficit-generating programs that Obama insisted upon. We only need fear China’s economy faltering. Without them to fund our spending sprees, we’d actually have to cut spending or be a financial slave to another responsible nation.
Posted by: s | January 19, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am
As usual, Americans be hatin.
Posted by: Bringoftruth | January 19, 2011, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
China is primarily in the US at the moment to help the US transition its energy supplies.
It’s clear that oil demand (surging on India, Brazil, China) is moving at twice the rate of the oil supply. Deep water oil ventures are also proving hard with the deep water pressure problems (e.g. BP which wasted half the oil well).
As a result, China has moved rapidly over the past year to move towards energy independence, building wind farms, nuclear power stations, now building the largest solar farm, etc.
The issue is the US has become increasingly militarised, and the threat of tea party backed candidates getting near the nuclear arms portfolio in America would doom us all to nuclear oblivion. Chinese leaders realise this, and are giving away jobs to the US to build renewable energy products, in the hope the US won’t spiral into economic breakdown and create extremists silly enough to push the nuclear button.
The problem lies in divided American political culture – e.g. Obama tried to pass an Energy Bill thrice, and was blocked by Republicans who called it a tax and trade. But how else do you force energy transitions? Good will? The free market works on price. But electricity prices don’t affect food and goods transport, whilst rising oil cost does. The US is falling behind in the $6 trillion p.a. renewable energy industry (India signed Japan/Germany in $630 Billion to build solar energy in India), and is imperiling its energy independence and the US economy at the same time because a rattled House and Senate cannot unite to pass an Energy Bill.
All in all, that’s why the Hu’s “first State Visit” is so significant – and why jobs, removing trade barriers in China and renewable energy are so forefront to the discussions.
Renewable energy race or nuclear arms race?
Posted by: Jason | January 19, 2011, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Watch out :China is greedy and very dangerous.look at how they treated the small nations around them such as Vietnam communist ? china claimed 3/4 “East Ocean” belong to them. they arrested and killed Vietnamese fisher men when they are fishing at their water. china treated their prisoners as a dog! no human right respected. wake up America, China will be a threat to the America in economy, military and security.
Posted by: lu | January 19, 2011, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
China took advantage of the world and was the lowest bidder for manufacturing. Their people just worked and saved their money. But saving their money did nothing for the rest of the world. China has dumped products on the US and elsewhere for a while. Now the US is in a bad way. China wants to invest some $40 billion in the US said to generate or retain 200,000 jobs. That is a drop in the bucket job-wise. China has a huge surplus in trade but they still haven’t promised to devalue their currency. It is time the US paid off China and then closed its markets to them. Then we’ll see what China is really all about. What goes around comes around. With unfair trade, we need to protect our own country. We’ve been fighting the world’s wars for a long time. Let’s see what China does for the world instead of them greedily looking out for themselves.
Posted by: Bob | January 20, 2011, 10:35 am 10:35 am
We should be afraid. We are failing in education, infrastructure, manufacturing, etc. People are so afraid of making the changes needed to help the country, instead it is a war of selfishness. Conservatives don’t want change, but without change we will not keep up with a changing world. That’s right, the world is changing. If we don’t the USA will become a “has been”. In a lot of respects, we already are a “has been”.
Posted by: raggmopp | January 21, 2011, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
@J20: “Chinese people do not trust the Americans as usual, the United States is the world’s worst and arrogant country!”
Of course you’re pulling our leg here. Did you hear the Chinese foreign minister’s reaction to the Senkaku Island dispute incident in 2010?
@LAAZ: “To all of you who keep bashing China: can you count to, let’s say, ten. If you can, then count the number of wars the US is raging since WWII, then count those China was involved in. Divide or subtract, as you whish, then start thinking…”
KOREAN WAR for starters
@H: “we spread our culture and military industrial complex ubiquitously and now that the student has become master, we all of a sudden have sour grapes?”
I don’t understand this post, so it’s okay for china to have a military-industrial complex but not the US?
Posted by: TheTruth | February 28, 2011, 2:16 am 2:16 am