“Painful Conclusion”: Senators Say FBI & DOD Could Have Prevented Ft. Hood Shooting

Obviously.
So…….what’s new?????

The old “We’re just like the Three Stooges” excuse. “We’re just bumbling idiots that the American people pay top dollar to, to be incompetent and let these disaster just happen.”
UH HUH!
Sorry….I don’t believe a word of it.
They do this every time there is a SO-CALLED Terrorist attack or massacre or assassination. Puhleeese. also guys what happened to the othergunman that was seen and reported ON THE NEWS) to have been at Ft HOOD? Disappeared I guess.

The EASIEST way to have prevented it is to have ALLOWED SOLDIERS TO CARRY THEIR HANDGUNS ON THEIR OWN BASE!!!!
I thought they were joking when I heard that these highly-trained soldiers can’t even carry their own guns on base – They have to keep them locked up and inaccessible.
Plus, they eliminated most of the armed MP’s??? – unbelievably dumb!!!

13 of our finest gunned down, and not a single “Together We Thrive” pep rally? I guess some lives are more important than others to our POTUS.

Rick, is completely correct. If this nut had been called on the carpet for his views. He would have run screaming to RREO that his religion was the reason that he was being singled out. PC is a good part of the reason for the stupidity that has taken hold of us. 94 year old woman take out of line at a airport and searched. If we cannot see that is one theme is going to ruin us. Then we are in trouble. Sometimes you have to do what is PC incorrect.

It’s sad how media and political blowhards made a huge hue and cry over the Tucson shootings being caused by incivility of discourse and the availability of large capacity weapons magazines. Maj. Hasan solved the magazine problem – he had more than 1 pistol; wonder if he was set off by seeing the ‘crosshairs’ on conservative websites or listening to political conservatives? Or, just possibly, by stupid political correctness??

Major Hassan’s views weren’t even that radical. I suggest that he actually understands Islam. He created a Powerpoint presentation that accurately depicts the Muslim’s view of the world. Unfortunately this doesn’t fit into the accepted view of Islam in polite society.

The administration still characterizes this as “normal work plac3e violence”, not terrorism.

Here is the even more painful truth. Had anyone in Hasan’s chain if command recommended that he be sanctioned or discharged for his “radical” views, he or she would have been slapped with an Equal Opportunity violation and his or her career would have come to a grinding halt. Political correctness has been forced down the throat of our Armed Services by the very likes of the senators who came to the conclusions mentioned in this article, yet nowhere do they assume one bit of the blame for this tragedy.

Cue the attorneys.

THANK YOU, CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT!

Chuck…there’s a great recipe on the back of 20 mule team borax for a cleaning paste….works great for the removal of blood…especially from hands!!! Yes, liberals like you have blood on your hands for allowing this level of PC to flourish in our society, and even our military. EVERYTHING that is idiotic can be traced to the mental disorder that is liberalism. This country deserves to fall if we do not get it together soon.

Instead of a moratorium on drilling for our country’s badly needed oil, how about a 10-year moratorium on all immigration as Pat Buchanan proposed some years back.
And, if Mubarak goes, so should the Egypt aid we have donated for decades be immediately stopped!

If I recall,President Jimmy Carter made the brilliant executive decision to disarm all the military bases. That along with giving the Panama Canal away and allowing the Ayatollahs to take over Iran were his greatest achievements. Don’t just point the finger at the FBI and the military for the Fort Hood massacre, Carter deserves some of the credit for what transpired.

OK suppose Hasan had been discharged (for what exactly I don’t have a clue). Now he’s a civilian with the same radical islamic views. And eventually he gets himself armed, and kills a bunch of people. So tell me, what’s been solved?

So typical of the Liberals…..blame the media.

The incompetence and moral failure of all of these organizations is not “hard
to explain” by any one. These one reason is obvious and has been stated by all the bloggers. It will happen again and again. It won’t stop it, but at least the Army could say that the next time, the CO for the three levels above will be discharged with dishonorable status.

The army narrowly missed having a similar fiasco take place at Ft Dix, NJ a year or two earlier when unarmed troops were slated to be massacred by a handful of Bosnian muslims who were/are in the country courtesy of Bill Clinton and George Bush. Thank God for an alert and intelligent clerk at a photo center who detected the plot or the death toll would probably have been several dozen. I don’t know what the fate of the “wannabe” shooters has been, but it would not surprise me if they were attending Harvard on foreign student assisstance.

Can you imagine our GI’s returning from war only to talk with Hassan the shrink!!
Outrageous. If someone complained they would have been called out for political correctness nonsense.
This country has gone crazy..many thanks to the liberals.

Hasan was obviously a loose canon and should have been disciplined early on for voicing his political views at inappropriate times. However, I am amazed that Senators Lieberman and Collins could have endorsed a report that would advocate someone being disciplined for “embracing” an extreme view.
Maybe they would also say that people should be punished for embracing the “extreme” view that illegals should be deported.
So much for freedom of belief.
After 10 years of “fighting for freedom”
why are we less free and less safe ?
Maybe the real enemy is Israel and it’s stooges in the USA.

We were promised “Hope and Change”, but this is what we got from this hopeless changeling.

AB, here is a more painful truth:
No one in his chain of command thought that their career was less important than the health and welfare of the Army, or they would have fallen on their sword to protect the ones who eventually fell. Cowards and hypocrites all.

Every security manager in every unit that Hasan belonged to should have, and might very well have, insisted that Hasan must be removed. It would only have been the chain of command that allowed him to stay.
There are a plethora of existing laws and regulations specifically designed to prevent him from getting to the stage he did. It would not matter whether he was green, red, white, black or brown. It would have not mattered what religion he espoused. What mattered was the undeniable instability of the man and recognition of the danger he posed to the people of the United States.

Boog – i Believe the US Military is the only country which does not allow its Officers to carry firearms unless in certain situation (combat or combat situations) This is terrible mistake. We lost a couple of recruiters in Arkansas last year to radicalized homegrown “terrorist”. Unfortunately, our leadership has strangely been quiet about this. The US Military in the CONUS is becoming a target of choice/opportunity.
Luckydog – Major Hasan carefully chose his weapon. I believe it was the FN57. This semi automatic pistol fires a 60 grain bullet approaching 2000 fps – lethal enough to negate bullet proof vents….. This was a calculated decision by the major to leverage the maximum lethality on his victims…..BTW Bush 43 was there at the Post shortly after the event… I guess the american people can blame him for that one too.
The US Military is being hamstrung by the PC community and the lawyers that guide our military leadership. Until there is an acknowledgement of the facts we are facing and we start dealing with these events in a clear and unbiased (PC) way, they with likely continue to happen.

It has been correctly said that everyone knew why this was allowed to happen as soon as it happened. PC run amok. If anyone had tried to deal with him before he went off they would have been ruined so they all stood aside and let it happen.

The real people responsible are those who foster political correctness, so that would be liberals and democrats.

So, they could have stopped the Ft. Hood shooting by kicking him out of the Army…. If they had not locked this guy up he would just go a shoot a bunch of people in DC, Time Square or something. Yeah, that is better…?!?!
How about deporting idiots (yes, even citizens) with radical islamist views to the radical islamic country of thier choice so long as we shred thier US passport.
We were able to defeat the previous attacks we had by suicide bombers (they called themselves kamikazis) because they were all in one place.

This man killed – no murdered 13 people injured 30 others, expended over 140 rounds and he is solely responsible for his own reprehensible actions whatever the cause or his intention, or his reason. He only show that the muslim faith of Islam is NOT a religion of peace and has no intention of any kind of tolerance. They are poison, their philosophy is directly and diametrically opposed to the American individual and family.
He should be brought to trial quickly as it has been 18 months or so since his vile act.

Why are so many Muslims allowed to immigrate to this country when many of them seem to have enabling attitudes towards terrorists? Very rarely speaking out against the daily killings and other atrocities commited daily- the world over- by their religious brothers

Food for thought:
I’m allowed to think what I want, say what I want, but not do what I want. “Freedom of Speech” guaranteed by the First Amendment. This also means that I can plan, plot, detail, and even theorize any number of heinous crimes, but so long as I do not act or facilitate those plans going in to action, I’ve committed no crime whatsoever. From the military viewpoint, “If Jimmy wants to hate Bill because he’s black, that’s fine. When they come under fire together, so long as they kill the enemy and not each other. I could care less.”

There have been two mass murders in Killeen. One was at a Luby’s restaurant before it was legal to carry a concealed weapon in Texas. The other was on the base where it is illegal to carry a weapon.

After Tailhook, within MONTHS we had hours of “training” to endure, because some female Lieutenant got her posterior groped, allegedly.
Major Hasan KILLED 13 soldiers and absolutely NOTHING gets done.
We don’t have civilian leaders. We have civilians who read speeches. Thank you American people, for voting in absolute clown acts to “lead” us.

it’s all called political correctness run amok!
the joys of supporting multiculturalism and ignoring the traditions and culture of our OWN!
THEY must be stopped NOW or we are in grave trouble! They are on the march in our country to islamize us and eventually all the world! If it takes 5-10-100 years…they are really in no hurry, just so it gets done!
Already they have infiltrated all aspects of our government and education systems! YES they have!!!
Stop them now!

I hope everyone of those families SUES the DOD and The FBI and the particular individuals but of cpourse they will be indemnified.

As Mister Obama admonished us:
“Don’t jump to conclusions.”

The commission is wrong; I’ve been in the Army. It is an organization paralyzed with the rigor mortis of political correctness.
Had the army discharged or even disciplined Hasan, the “watchdogs” in the mainstream media would’ve cried foul. They would’ve screamed to the rooftops about civil rights, profiling, and racism. Jon Stewart would’ve lampooned the officers responsible, and Hasan’s discharge/discipline would be reversed.
What is really at fault here is our country’s refusal to face the reality that Islam is a threat and that it seeks to destroy our civilization.

Of course the Army is at fault. Right after the shooting the US Army chose a new Ordnance Corp Command Sergeant Major, his name is CSM Muhammed (seriously).
Anything to make them look unbiased right?

#1 We’re good at putting up yellow tape and cleaning up the blood after a mass murder, but we’re terrible at preventive measures.
#2 After his Islamist ppt presentation, he should have been pulled out of the herd, vetted, analyzed, dismissed, and watched for anti-American sentiment.
#3 The current standards for determining who is/isn’t dangerous are ineffective, not predictive, left in the hands of the untrained, the unwilling, and the inattentive.
#4 And yes, it’s not PC to profile Muslims, so very few civilian or military administrators, Sheriff’s, FBI agents, D.A,’s, or Assistant US Attorneys are willing to commit career suicide by countermanding their know-nothing PC masters.

Most of you people are wrong on one count. The term “Radical Islam”. This is not a result of radical islam. There was nothing radical of this mans actions. He was just following the Quran. Only when the American People realize this will we be able to take appropriate action to protect ourselves and America.

having no muslims, who are obviously prone to unpredictable and violent behavior, in the US armed forces would have prevented this too.

Unless something drastic happens, the “progressives” in the administration and the media will one day wake up to find the Constitution replaced by Sharia law.
In the meantime, ask yourself, how many of these Muslim regimes are committed to U.S. ideals of freedom, choice, democracy, and equality?
Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Algeria, Afghanistan, Morocco, Iraq, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Syria, Kazakhstan, Niger, Burkina Faso, Mali, Senegal, Tunisia, Guinea, Somalia, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Sierra Leone, Libya, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Chad, Lebanon, Kuwait, Albania, Mauritania, Oman, Kosovo, Gambia, Bahrain, Comoros, Qatar, Djibouti, Brunei, Maldives…

Of course libs would find the FBI and the Army at fault and they were because they didn’t have the guts to ignore the political climate of Obama and do the right thing … and good people died because of cowards who kept their mouths shut.

Obama is the head of the FBI and the military. This is his fault.

There are mosques all over our nation that are promoting the overthrow of our government and the murder of U.S. citizens………but our federal government is too gutless to address this.

Why is Major Hasan NOT being charged with treason? (fixed).

Liberal P.C. = 13 dead.

This report reveals the truth about what happened, but does not point the finger where it must be pointed. Hasan was allowed to remain in the Army and continue with his hate-filled decline into radicalism because political correctness has run a mock in the US military. Every supervisor, in his chain of command, was scared of pointing out his “views” for fear they would be disciplined for being insensitive or intolerant or not “diverse” enough. If ever there were a case of wrongful and preventable death, this is it. And Hasan’s supervisors have this blood on their hands. PC will destroy this country, from within, if it does not STOP. Nobody has the right to not be offended by something someone else says.

“did not understand” his conversion to extremism? You mean the people responsible for fighting al qaeda and the taliban in afghanistan for the last ten years don’t understand islamic extremism? Really? Really?

Political correctness is the total reason for this happening!

Slightly off topic, but I feel in cases like this, where there is absolutely no doubt of guilt, a noose should be strung on the spot, right where the crime took place.
Then, there would be no need for lengthy investigations by incompetent government employees.

Why haven’t the officers and faculty at Uniformed Services University and Walter Reed Army Medical Center been appropriately castigated? Senior officials had to sign off on an annnual evalution (officer fitness) report, each year! Why haven’t those individuals been disciplined??

@FCC: Fairness Doctrine Now!
How about some profiling to go with your koolaid?

`Turning speech control into thought control.
Large bureaucracies are out of control. Ex: GM carrying a lot of dead weight because of unions.
The government is lot of bureaucracies often supposedly
doing the same thing but being out of control doing damage. Like giving
a promotion then transferring a crazy to a different station.

All for naught…..no one will have to answer, no one will be demoted, no one will be fined, imprisoned or even discharged and the blood of the victims will go without justice….The new Obama America….and Valarie will have a General wait on her….and bring her a glass of wine….My God, we should be ashamed…..

Chuck, you are an idiot! Fox News and conservative talk radio is the other fair view against all the other stupid liberal stations and their point of views.

Now these clowns need to beg the next question…Why hasn’t Hasan been tried by now..convicted by now…and executed by now??
Didn’t even enter thse incompetant fools mind…

Also ..there needs to be major punishment ..demotions loss of rank..I’ll never forget the PC General puke that was more concerned about losing diversity due to intolerence than security…
Boy ..the PC Pentagon and Mutt Mullins didn’t take long to releave the Captain of the Aircraft Carrier Enterpriize because he made fun of gays…Oh Gawd we are in big trouble

Highly trained American soldiers are NOT allowed to carry their own weapons on a restricted military base?! Who the freak is running this dump. And the maniac walks around with a gun and additional ammo. The end is here!

“…for a host of various reasons and frankly some things that are hard to explain…”
I can explain them in two words: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!

btw: It seems Obama is trying too hard to convince everyone that he’s Christian
as many DON’T see it’s for real. He did
not participate in Nat’l Prayer Day & now wants to pretend he would have-?
Other POTUS’ went to churches, why is he
using the excuse about it being ‘too disruptive for other church members, when he’d rather be playing golf or be on a basketball court? What a fraud-as
AGAIN, he HIDES WHAT HE REALLY IS ALL ABOUT, AS HE LOOKS TO GATHER VOTES DOWN
THE ROAD-This guy is totally narcisstic
and it’s always about HIM & HIS CAREER.
I believe this man actually hates America as he proves it, again & again in disparaging her to others worldwide.

In addition to the FBI & United States Army, let’s assign some blame to Islam, the religion of peace.

greyghost has it right, as long as PC is the coin of the realm you can expect more of the same down the line. Moreover
you don’t dare suggest anything improper about a Muslim brother or you really are in deep doo doo. Get rid of PC or live happily with what you’ve created.

This report is further evidence that the government is in the business of social engineering. They want us to believe that it was the FBI or Army’s fault when in fact it was a Muslim extremist, whose religious ideology brought death and destruction to America’s front door step again. Let’s call a spade a spade here. And if you want to talk system problems have the military services corrected the problem of not having even one armed Soldier, Marine, or Airman armed on its bases so they can defend each other and prevent a tragedy like this from happening, again?

Problem is we haven’t had to fear such internal threats since the 1700s. Declaring an internal, identifiable threat from (moslem) terrorists would send us all into panic, or would it? They are here, they intend to do harm and it’s time to buck up and ACKNOWLEDGE IT!. Train our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines responsible weapon handling and make them carry their weapons at the very minimum while on duty. If they get a nut case that can’t responsibly handle a weapon, kick them out and move on. That b@stard would be finished if our soldiers had been armed and properly trained and we wouldn’t be “debating” his motivations or a “case”..

What? Of course only the people with the intellectual prowess to con the voters into electing them for office would come to this conclusion. Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie. If you tell us lies long enough, it is sad that many sheeple will believe you. But you, the smart ones, forget that you lie, and begin to actually believe that you’re telling the truth. That’s right call the rest of the world the bunch of bumbling fools. Only the US senators and especially Harry Reid could ever get everything right

Hurry – alert the Ny Times! The report reporting Hasan had extremist views! The NY Times led the charge warning people not to assume Haan’s extreme religionist views had anything to with this attack. Now a commission says the military should have acted due to those beliefs. This is going make the ALCU very angry.

I really glad though they are looking at my Grandma’s and Kids naked body before we go on vacation.