President Obama Says He Hopes “Patriot” Mubarak ‘Makes the Right Decision’
Seeming to further ease President Hosni Mubarak out the door – gingerly – President Obama today praised the longtime U.S. ally and dictator, urging him to think of his exit in historical terms. But even while he did so, he condemned Mubarak’s “old ways” of doing things.
“Once the president himself announced that he was not going to be running again, and since his term is up relatively shortly, the key question he should be asking himself is: ‘How do I leave a legacy behind in which Egypt is able to get through this transformative period?’” President Obama said. “And my hope is that he will end up making the right decision.”
Seeming to put Mubarak on the proverbial analyst’s couch, the president said that he believes Mubarak “cares about his country. He is proud, but he's also a patriot.”
Noting that Mubarak has been in power for nearly 30 years, Mubarak’s decision to not appear on the ballot in September – a decision urged by the United States government – was key, President Obama said. “Having made that psychological break, that decision that he will not be running again, I think the most important (is) for him to ask himself…how do we make that transition effective and lasting and legitimate?”
“If you end up having just gestures towards the opposition but it leads to a continuing suppression of the opposition, that's not going to work,” the president said. “If you have the pretense of reform but not real reform, that's not going to be effective.”
President Obama made his comments at a joint press availability with Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. He said that “some discussions have begun” about the details of Egypt’s transition, and while arguing that final decisions will be made by Egyptians, the president conveyed that his administration was strongly lobbying both Egyptians and others on how best to proceed.
“We are consulting widely within Egypt and with the international community to communicate our strong belief that a successful and orderly transition must be meaningful,” he said. “Negotiations should include a broad representation of the Egyptian opposition. And this transition must address the legitimate grievances of those who seek a better future.”
The president said “in light of what's happened over the last two weeks, going back to the old ways is not going to work. Suppression's not going to work. Engaging in violence is not going to work. Attempting to shut down information flows is not going to work…The only thing that will work is moving a orderly transition process that begins right now that engages all the parties, that leads to democratic practices, fair and free elections, and representative government that is responsive to the grievances of the Egyptian people.”
Mr. Obama said he’d suggested to Mubarak that he heed the advice of his advisors and listen to demonstrators in the streets.
“He needs to consult with those who are around him in his government,” he said. “He needs to listen to what's being voiced by the Egyptian people, and make a judgment about a pathway forward that is orderly but that is meaningful and serious.”
Calling attacks on reporters, human rights activists and peaceful protesters “unacceptable,” the president said he was “encouraged by the restraint that was shown today. We hope that it continues.”
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Posted by: Joe White | February 4, 2011, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
“If you have the pretense of reform but not real reform, that’s not going to be effective.”
see Barry’s “very serious path to deficit reduction” for one example.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | February 4, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Finally, the idiots in the White House and the Dept of State are getting the message. “Now means now” was an appallingly ignorant policy. It’s about time they backed away from it.
This guy is the most ill-suited person we have ever had in the WHite House. It shows in his economic policies and now his foreign policies. It’s not a team of rivals, its a confedaracy of dunces who are running our country
Posted by: Looking For Sanity | February 4, 2011, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Mr Mubarak will make the right decision. The question is, how soon? He of course needs time to pack his bags and sort out what he leaves behind and what he takes with him.
I’d say give him 4-6 weeks to pack and leave. The army has the power and the responsibility to ensure Egypt remains stable. The army can remove the president.
Posted by: kottaras | February 4, 2011, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
“He needs to listen to what’s being voiced by the Egyptian people, and make a judgment about a pathway forward that is orderly but that is meaningful and serious.” Obama.
When will Obama listen to what is being voiced (elections) by the American people? If we get .3% of the American people to show up at the WH will he resign? Less than this number are showing up in Egypt. Did Obama have this same attitude with the Iranian protestors? No, he said he wasn’t getting involved. And the media continues to cover for this man child.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | February 4, 2011, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain’s nuclear secrets
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | February 4, 2011, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Of course, Obama hasn’t the slightest clue as to what the “right decision” is, but why should that stop him from talking endlessly?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 4, 2011, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Is this an indication that Obama will also be a patriot in 2012 and not run for a second term?
Posted by: Teddy | February 4, 2011, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
“Is this an indication that Obama will also be a patriot in 2012 and not run for a second term?”
In a democracy there is no reason why a president cannot run for 2nd or even 3rd terms, provided those elections are fair and free.
Obama can run again if he wishes.
Posted by: kottaras | February 4, 2011, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Remember Obama’s Cairo speech two years ago? Check this out:
“According a Zogby International Report, ‘Egyptians are disappointed with President Barack Obama and have a decidedly negative view of U.S. policy in the Middle East.’
“Here are some Zogby public opinion numbers, after two years of an Obama foreign policy that was silent on human rights in the Middle East but apoplectic on Jewish apartment condos in Jerusalem:
- 85% had an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
- 87% had no confidence in the U.S.
- 92% named the U.S. as one of two nations that are the greatest threat to them”
Heckuva job, Barry. Is it time for another speech? That oughta do it.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 4, 2011, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
“WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain’s nuclear secrets” – Foghorn Leghorn
Wasn’t that agreed upon in the START treaty?
Posted by: Noz | February 4, 2011, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“Is this an indication that Obama will also be a patriot in 2012 and not run for a second term?” – Teddy
H O P E makes a comeback!
Posted by: Noz | February 4, 2011, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
“If you end up having just gestures towards the opposition but it leads to a continuing suppression of the opposition, that’s not going to work,” the president said. “If you have the pretense of reform but not real reform, that’s not going to be effective.”
well, he said it…not that he’s ‘listening’ to what he says, even with his Nov ‘shellacking’…
so now he’s ‘projecting’ his faults on Mubarak…well, that’s easier, isn’t it? narcissists are never at fault, ever…
Posted by: push2shove | February 4, 2011, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
This guy and news network will not tell the
truth. The Wiki-leaks story about selling
out the British will not be published. Look
it up. How about rolling blackouts in the southern states no comment. Tell me the true unemployment numbers. Look at the big states numbers and tell me the governments numbers are that of someone
running for president. Egypt well maybe he
walks like an EGYPTIAN.
Posted by: deadwrestler | February 4, 2011, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
“In a democracy there is no reason why a president cannot run for 2nd or even 3rd terms, provided those elections are fair and free.”
Except in those democracies whose constitutions have been amended to prohibit a third term.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 4, 2011, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Tax the rich and feed the poor til there are
no rich no more. Sky`s are funny, these are
lyrics from a song and now sound like
someone`s campaign promises. The democratic party has not changed in over
50 years. Ask not what this country can do for you but what you can do for this country,
well they now want to tax you for all these
entitlements and the people paying them
probably will not receive them. AND THEY WILL NOT ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: deadwrestler | February 4, 2011, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Whose interests are served by the following?
1)An assassination attempt was made on Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman? Why no comment from the White House? If Suleiman is “gone” and Mubarek is forced out who or what is likely?
2) Masked men engaged in a ‘Terror attack on Egypt-Israel gas pipeline in El-Arish’. The Muslim Brotherhood has stated if would shut of Egypt’s gas supplies to Israel.
3) An immediate resignation and elections in Egypt? Who is the most organized party? Which “leader” is backed by financier and Obama backer George Soros. Which opposition leader has a working relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood?
4)Who has been calling for non secular participation in Egypts new government? Who are the Obama representatives meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood and what is their affiliation with the Int Crisis Group? Who funds the Int Crisis Group?
5) Where are the News organisations demands for answers or questions ? Who is Jamie Rubin’s wife and what is her ideological and/or Journalistic curiosity to these questions?
6) What is the Open Societies relationship to to former Clinton and current Obama high ranking figures,negotiators and media?
7)Who benefits from chaos in Egypt? Why do we want an immediate resignation of Mubarek yet did not want to “meddle” in Iran?
8) Is the Saudi Kingdom a model of democracy? Is Col Qaddafi a follower of Jefferson? Is Basher Assad going to resign? Is Lebanon better off after the murder of Harari and the Hezbollah representation and/or takeover of the government?
9) Where is the fourth estate and why are questions not being asked?
Posted by: pauldia | February 5, 2011, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Mr. Obama is a weak, indecisive President because of his inexperience and sporadic knowledge but he has masked all of that and present it to the American people as careful thinking.
Posted by: young_voter | February 5, 2011, 7:09 am 7:09 am
Obama is still pretending that Mubarak is actually making decisions. That time has passed, and he is no longer in control of the State.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 5, 2011, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Its just plain wishful thinking that Mulbarak & Co will pack up and go abroad like former Shah of Iran, as long as he still have the support of giant army and police forces around him.
Posted by: austin | February 5, 2011, 10:03 am 10:03 am
I’d like to see a story about Obama selling out Britain to get Russia to agree to the START Treaty.
But don’t expect to. Journalism is truly dead at ABC.
Posted by: Obama, the American (Idol) President | February 5, 2011, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Good heavens, how did such a stupid man ever get elected? How did he ever get the reputation for being the most intellegent person in the room?I could accept his clueless handling of the Egyptian crisis as a reflection of his inexperience and general timidity, but selling out our closest ally,the one country that has stood by us during thick and thin,the only country that has a secruity classification “NOFORN except UK” is the action of a certifiable idiot.And for what-an essentially meaningless and mainly political treaty that will not have any real practical benefits to us but may have cost us the trust of the best friend that this country has.It cannot be any more obvious-the reason why he has hidden his transcripts is because his grades stink,because his “political science” courses were piece of cake subjects devoid of any need for study as long as he could regurgitate the political leanings of the teacher.Now you can see why he thinks that Americans took Auschwitz,why there are 57 states,why he doesn’t know how to pronounce “corpsman”,why he doesn’t know that there is no Austrian language.I could go on and on,but at some point the media is going to ha ve report the truth about this man.In the same manner that a stopped clock is right twice a day,even Chris Matthews may be starting to see the light-his Egypt comments yesterday were incredible.Matthews entire fixation with Obama and belief that he was an intellectual was from reading “Dreams…”-what would he say if he ever looked into the authorship of that book and came to the conclusion that is becoming more obvious each day-that Barack Obama never had the literary or intellectual skills to write that book.
Posted by: Nephron | February 5, 2011, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Pathology and spite
Touchstones of the political right.
Posted by: Cheri | February 5, 2011, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Where’s Joe Biden when we need him?
Posted by: Sadd | February 5, 2011, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
It’s no coincidence that Al Baradei showed up in Cairo only two days after the uprising began and was immediately named a negotiator by the Muslim Brotherhood. In fact, he had been waiting in the wings for quite a while.
He’s on the board of an organization headed by George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski called International Crisis Group. Brzezinski is the same man who supervised the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979
Posted by: Paco | February 5, 2011, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“Good heavens, how did such a stupid man (BH Obama) ever get elected?”
It was because of how Bush went Progressive and drove away Conservatives making sure whoever had the “D” was going to win the election. As I’ve said many times before, Bozo the Clown would have won if he was the Demo Candidate.
Add to that the incessant Propaganda messages gleefully repeated by the Media
Hope and Change
McCain = 4 more years of Bush
both of which were untrue and you get a stupid man elected President of the United Sates of America.
Posted by: Noz | February 5, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Nephron, wow, so much bitterness.
Why is a national movement in Egypt any fault of Obama? How is he selling out Egypt, unless you mean Egypt is Mubarak’s government, and not its people or their welfare?
Mubarak is responsible for Egypt’s people revolting against him, by allowing corruption on all levels of government, and violence in the police force to flourish. I pray that the Egyptian people can have a fair election and get better leadership.
Posted by: Lydia | February 5, 2011, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
It was because of how Bush went Progressive and drove away Conservatives making sure whoever had the “D” was going to win
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Whoever had the D was going to win because Bush drove away everybody EXCEPT the conservatives who all voted for Palin.
Posted by: Skip | February 5, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
I wish that those people who now mainly define who they are by how much crazy they can fling about Obama would wake up and begin studying whats really going on in the world, because that much energy and passion could be put to good use.
What we’re seeing in Egypt right now is a slow-moving coup, one that have been planned for quite a long time. The only wild card is the youth movement in the streets, and both their fortitude and their perspicacity is about to be tested to the limit.
So far, they have proven able on both fronts. These are their current demands:
• the removal of Hosni Mubarak and the whole apparatus of the Mubarak regime;
• a committee which will appoint a transitional government, the committee to be made up of 6 named senior judges, six representatives from their youth movement and two members of the military
• a council to draw up a new constitution, which would then be put to the people in a referendum
• elections at national and local level in accordance with the constitution.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 5, 2011, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Whoever had the D was going to win because Bush drove away everybody EXCEPT the conservatives who all voted for Palin.-
Including incompetent hacks who were bought by Wall Street and oil companies even before they stepped into office?!?!
Posted by: Youdontsay | February 5, 2011, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
ElBaradei, and his National Association for Change movement are in no position to begin negotiations on behalf of the anti-Mubarak Egyptian people. Elbaradei must wait until Mubarak leaves office and leaves Egypt before any type of negotiation can begin. The sooner Mubarak leaves office and leaves Egypt, the sooner negotiations can begin.
The Egyptian people, represented by the anti-Mubarak demonstrators in Tahrir Square, do not recognize Mubarak’s National Democratic Party nor the constitution of that party.
The anti-Mubarak protestors and the Egyptian people, whom they represent, call for drafting of a new constitution and the forming of an “adhoc government”, composed of ElBaredei, and the popular Egyptian leaders, whom Mubarak banned and tortured, some of whom live in exile.
Frank Wisner, Obama’s Special Representatitve to Egypt, is on the wrong side of history in going against the will of the Egyptian people. Hillary Clinton and Frank Wisner don’t understand that the people of Egypt do not accept the “constitutional hurdles” that they speak of. The people of Egypt, represented by the anti-Mubarak protestors, have declared Mubarak’s constitution an illegal document, and a document of terror against the Egyptian people.
Hillary Clinton has beern wobbling like a duck, all over the place, ever since the Egyptian peoples’ revolution begin. It is obvious that she and the powers that be in Washington would like for Mubarak to stay in power. However, she knows that is not going to happen. So Hillary Clinton’s statements, and posturing, change daily on the revolution occuring in Egypt. She, like most American leaders, are behind the curve on what is taking place in Egypt.
Posted by: abdullah | February 5, 2011, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
The Obama administration speaks:
“US special envoy Frank Wisner has said that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak should remain in power to oversee a transition to democracy. The remarks appear to contradict previous US calls for Mr Mubarak to begin an immediate transition. The state department has not yet commented.”
These people are not merely incompetent. They are haplessly, cluelessly, dangerously incompetent.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 5, 2011, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
The Egyptians seem very adept at completely ignoring Obama’s instructions:
“Suleiman met Saturday with representatives from several opposition parties. But representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest opposition party, said they had not participated in the talks. Nor did Mohamed ElBaradei, the democracy advocate and Nobel Peace Prize laureate, who had earlier been chosen by opposition parties as their spokesman.”
If what emerges is a regime even remotely sympathetic to US interests, it will be in spite of what the Obama morons are doing.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 5, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
“If what emerges is a regime even remotely sympathetic to US interests, it will be in spite of what the Obama morons are doing.”
That depends. What exactly do you mean by “sympathetic to US interests”?
If you define the Mubarak regime as sympathetic to US interests, you have alot of explaining to do.
Do US interests include a union busting climate for the export of US jobs? Or do you mean to say what is good for the rich is good for the rest of us? Do we exist simply as a means of supporting the rich?
Is the security of the Likud bloc so important to the US that it requires the brutal repression and impoverishment of the Egyptian people?
Posted by: Flash Override | February 5, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“US special envoy Frank Wisner has said that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak should remain in power to oversee a transition to democracy. The remarks appear to contradict previous US calls for Mr Mubarak to begin an immediate transition. The state department has not yet commented.”
These people are not merely incompetent. They are haplessly, cluelessly, dangerously incompetent.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena |
So Barry was against Mubarak (2002ish speech) before he was for Mubarak(last week) before he was against Mubarak(this week) before he was for Mubarak. It’s like he is getting advice from a Magic 8-Ball.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | February 5, 2011, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
“That depends. What exactly do you mean by ‘sympathetic to US interests’?”
I mean aiding the US in the War on Terror and maintaining peaceful relations with Israel, for starters. And I would never be so preposterously stupid as to attempt to ascertain which regimes in the Middle East are or are not likely to favor unions, “the rich,” or whomever. So far as I can tell, the Islamist Iranian regime facilitated by the oaf Carter is hostile to unions, the rich, the poor, and just about anybody who isn’t a jihadist.
Perhaps Mr. Obama can persuade the new Egyptian regime to institute card check and implement the Clinton income tax rate structure–wouldn’t that be just ducky?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 5, 2011, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
The essential question in Egypt for the state is whether or not they are going to be able to shuffle people around like a Three Card Monte game, but continue with the same neoliberal policies that brought the population to the boiling point.
To pretend that economic repression is not the central issue here is either willfully ignorant or insanely cynical.
The problem I have with the wingnuts is not their crazy conspiracy theories, it is in fact that they are actually naively innocent when it comes to analysing whats happening. The Obama plan is not in the interests of the US, but not for the reasons they think. Do they understand that the Obama plan is to remove Mubarak and substitute his chief of intelligence, and keep all of the state institutions of repression of the people and the peace treaty intact? From their comments you would think not.
Do they understand that 90% of Egyptians are in favor of a secular state? Apparently not.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 5, 2011, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
“Whoever had the D was going to win because Bush drove away everybody EXCEPT the conservatives who all voted for Palin.” – Skip
Good point Skip.
Bush not only drove away Conservatives with his Progressive shift he drove away Independents too. They don’t like Progressives either. That explains Obama’s huge November 2nd loss too. When the Independents realized Obama and the Demos were bigger Progressive than Bush they voted for Conservative Repubs.
The Liberals don’t count because they always vote Demo no matter if it makes sense or not.
Posted by: Noz | February 5, 2011, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
“Bush not only drove away Conservatives”
Just where exactly did he drive them away to? It’s amazing the lengths these baloney-meisters will go to to try and wash the Republicans’ hands of George Bush.
Posted by: Skip | February 6, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am
In 2008 Millions of Repubs stayed home and didn’t vote.
He drove them “underground” Skippy.
I thought you already knew this stuff.
Posted by: Noz | February 6, 2011, 11:52 am 11:52 am
And here I thought Sarah Palin had rallied the conservative base; it shows her popularity has been exaggerated all along.
Posted by: Skip | February 6, 2011, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
I think very few people of any political affiliation are going to lend any credibility whatsoever to the ludicrous claim that independents voted for Obama because they thought he would be less progressive than George Bush was. Is there any exit polling data or anything to back it up? I realize there is no rule against mental self-amusement.
Posted by: Skip | February 6, 2011, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
“And here I thought Sarah Palin had rallied the conservative base; it shows her popularity has been exaggerated all along.” – Skip
Silly Rabbit, people vote for the Presidential Candidate not the Vice Presidential one.
Rally all you want but McCain was the Man and he wasn’t conservative enough so Millions of Repubs stayed home in 2008.
Common Knowledge Skip.
Posted by: Noz | February 6, 2011, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
“I think very few people of any political affiliation are going to lend any credibility whatsoever to the ludicrous claim that independents voted for Obama because they thought he would be less progressive than George Bush was.” – Skip
Actually Skip no one would make such a claim because Obama didn’t run against George Bush, only the ghost of George.
: o )
Posted by: Noz | February 7, 2011, 12:02 am 12:02 am