Rand Paul’s Toilet Tirade

He is right. Our choices are getting more restricted every day, and every day, we are being forced to buy more and more imports, rather than American made products.
Glad to see someone is raising the flag about what is going on.
The consumer should have the right to choose, what is best for them, and not have government dictating to us.

God Bless Rand Paul for speaking up for us. I agree 100%.

So this is what it’s like to have a Senator that actually represents the American peoples best interest…

Rand Paul’s had toilet trouble for 20 years? Maybe the problem is he’s lazy and cheap when it comes to plumbing problems. Maybe he shouldn’t have hired Joe “The Non-licensed” Plumber to fix his toilet.

He’s right you know.

A Senator knows more about toliets then medican or government. What few bother to realize is Aqua Buddha pot smoking Senator Rand Paul is working for the Coal Company not the people. He was paid to get those miners back to with even without the companies repairing the safety or even paying the billions in fines due. This is about the dumbest Senator in office. Wing nuts do have followers and Rand Paul is an embarrassment to his Father and now the country. He should be on SNL with his fellow nutter Sarah Palin.

many cities have rebate programs for getting these new toliets. I’m pretty certain it is a scam or kickback somewhere. Nothing is “free”. Somebody, foreign manufacturers, plumbers, etc is making money off of the deal or somehow we are paying for it (taxes, increased water costs, etc.) If the price of water reflected actual costs then people would be forced to improvise, pay more, or buy a low-flush toliet. Simple.

Libertarians are a hoot. They appear to have ZERO cooperative skills and even less empathy. It’s all about ME! Who cares if MY high water usage forces a farmer to have less or an aquifer to go dry? It’s the invisible hand of the Free Market!

How about those 1 gal/flush toilets that need to be flushed 3 times. Yeah, the congress is real smart.

LOL…LOL…What a bunch of “ignorant clowns” got elected by the far right last fall. And evidently a bunch of “clowns” who are resistant to change…even when it has been proven best for our environment. Senator…it is not about the “subjectivity of your RIGHTS”…it is about the “livability of our world…our environment”. Rand…you have no business being where you are at if you are that “backwards and ignorant”.

Its all true. The light bulbs are dangerous. Thet are not to be thrown in the trash because of the mercury inside. Where the hell do you take these little critters. Drive to the dump to put in hazard area. 20 miles from my house. All made in China. That will put more american workers out of work. We made a mistake and bought a low flush toilet when they first came out. The flush barely moved the water. We bought a used one to replace the one we dumped. They redesigned the toilets and they are better,but,not as good as the old ones.

It was a change to the tile adhesive (for enviromental reasons) contributed to space shuttle Columbia disaster.

That was hardcore. I miss the old toilets too.

Peter King can show Rand Paul what happens when you drink toiletwater ..with a side of phosphates

It takes 1200 gallons of water to create 1 lbs. of beef to eat. Penny wise and pound foolish people always want to look like they are changing but never really change in a way that will have a significant effect. How about this….convince everyone to eat a little less meat and then we can all take half hour showers and have toilets that I don’t have to flush 3 times to work. How about the shower heads that you can never get the soap out of your hair? You use the same amount of water because your in the shower 3x as long .
Dont get me started on the new lightbulbs that contain toxic metals. LED lights are the only choice.

“I really find it troubling – this busy-body nature that you want to come into my house, my bathroom, my bedroom,” BUT the Republicans are the ones who are against abortion and gay rights [bedroom], against funding for birth control and against sex education to help prevent unwed pregnancy. When they get out of OUR bedroom, we will get out of theirs!! :)

Re: “This is America, I can crap where I want!” Funnily enough, this is actually the case in India, whose citizens own more cell phones than toilets.

The way the government does business, as Hogan, is just traditional. It’s kind of the way they are used to thinking or doing things. Rand Paul is right to question it. Sometimes you have to rethink, why are we doing it this way, is it the best way, or just the way we’ve grown accustomed.
The pure libertarian argument is that as water supplies shrink, the cost will raise, as the cost goes up, the consumer will seek out low-flow toilets on their own, to save money.
Which would work, the trouble is, it works too late.
But, there are ways to tweak that process, and ultimately leave it as a consumer choice, and not have it work too late. Artificially reserve part of the water supply, to increase water costs of the remaining consumable water, earlier.
The problem with toilets is they flush drinking water.
That’s the problem, the solution is – collect rain water, and flush water that is not drinking water.
You can then use 5 gallons if you want, frankly it doesn’t matter….if its rain water.
Water, itself does not poison the environment, I assure you of that. And none of these regulations address the amount of the other thing that you are flushing.

Maybe if Rand Paul can’t flush his toilet, he should restrict his choices of what he eats. Choose fiber next time, Senator.

Targetted product restrictions are a means to address the true environmental cost of inefficiency because the people are really bad about comparing short term costs (the cost of a toilet or a light bulb) with long term costs (water and energy bills). Yes, it does disrupt things in the short run (poor performing toilets, so-so cfl bulbs), but in the long run, it encourages innovation. American companies have every opportunity to take part in that innovation (and frequently do). Modern water use-compliant toilets work fine and have improved considerably since the whole three flushes to get it down ones.

I will be the first to admit the lightbulbs and toilets annoy me. But I also grasp my children and grandchildren deserve an ounce of respect, and it’s just not loving to think we can live in excess waste with no regards to what we are leaving for our children. We know these resources are going to run out at some point.

In point of fact, low-flow toilets actually SAVE money for everybody, even if you don’t have one in your house. In a growing population like ours, less waste water means building additional sewage treatment plants can be put off longer. Thus, taxes for those plants don’t have to be imposed.
And it isn’t as if people are forced to replace their old toilets; rather, new construction has to have them. And in truth, the new ones typically work better than the old ones.

Thank God for Rand Paul. Someone who will stand up to Washington’s continuing idiocy.

Mr. Paul should consider buying a water efficient toilet from Kohler. I got a couple in compliance with new toilet regulations in my state. These great U.S. made toilets work perfectly, and I am already seeing substantial water savings. Get with the program and be a water conservative instead of sitting in the pockets of corporate lobbyists.

Yeah, talk about freedom of choice whatever happened to private enterprise? Are monopolies the new private enterprise? Whatever happened to that invisible hand of the market that kept them FREE? If Paul wants to rant about something then let him rant about how the free market has become the controlled market; not by government but by Big Business and the politicians it has bought to enslave us, just like Paul.

Wow. Rand Paul’s father Ron may be an iconoclast, but at least he has coherent principles and a few decent ideas. The son Rand apparently is just a demagogue with no sense of priorities. Or, perhaps, just an idiot.
Can he really claim to be a libertarian if he panders to pro-lifers about abortion in the same sentence that he claims choices of what to *buy* are essential to liberty? Can he really not understand that one of the main *jobs* of government — which is where he works, the role he campaigned for — a job that it’s been doing for generations, is to protect the public interest when market shortcomings fail to do so?
(Overuse of limited resources like water is just one of these areas. You can’t buy tainted meat anymore, either, or hire a 12-year-old to work in your factory… do these things bother him?)
What’s worse are the people on here claiming “he’s right.” No, he’s not. When it comes to toilets, for instance, apparently neither he nor his fans here have taken the trouble to actually visit a store, talk to a plumber, or read an article in Consumer Reports, because their information is laughably wrong.

Apparently Rand’s never been to Lowes. They have a whole isle dedicated to light bulbs. Energy efficient incandescents, fluorescents in several different wattage’s, even three-ways, daylight, soft white, halogen bulbs. And even another whole isle with several varieties of toilets. Flushings above the bowl around the rim, below the bowl. I just remodeled a bathroom two years ago. Everything from the bulbs to the toilet are energy efficient, and I’ve had no problems at all. What’s the contrived argumant really about Rand? Rallying the base?Seriously, what a waste of tax payers money.

I can’t understand what he is doing wrong. I have a new inexpensive 1.6gal/flush toilet and it works better than the 6gal/flush it replaced. I even installed a cheap dual flush retrofit system on it (1/2 flush for #1, full for #2) I have had zero problems with it. I also haven’t had to replace a lightbulb in years since we switched to CF bulbs. I think advancements in technology are a wonderful thing.

I just think it’s interesting that Rand Paul seems to think that light-bulb choices implicate the same sort of personal, privacy, and constitutional rights as abortion choices.