Mar 22, 2011 8:39am

The Note: Frustration Over Obama’s Libya Policy Grows, But Hasn’t Reached The Boiling Point

By MICHAEL FALCONE and AMY WALTER

It’s likely to be another day of more questions than answers from the White House on the Obama administration’s strategy and end game in Libya.

And the growing bi-partisan chorus of discontent — and in some cases outright opposition — to the U.S. missile strikes aimed at dismantling Moammar Gadhafi's military assets may grow even louder today after the crash of an American fighter jet in Libya.

Both crew members were safely recovered after the U.S. Air Force F-15 suffered a mechanical problem last night and went down 25 miles east of Benghazi. Still the incident underscores the risks involved in the expanding military operation at a time when it seems like no one country has its hand firmly on the steering wheel.

“The biggest obstacle to the Libyan intervention right now isn’t the Arab world but rather differences among France, the U.K. and the U.S. about who’s in charge,” Jan Techau, director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Brussels and a former NATO defense analyst, said in an interview with Bloomberg News.

The Obama administration continues to emphasize the operation will be short in duration and scope, and that the U.S. will hand over authority to its coalition partners soon. The transition will happen in a “matter of days, not a matter of weeks,” President Obama said on Monday. “How quickly this transfer takes places will be determined by the recommendations of our commanding officers.” (More from ABC News’ Jake Tapper, Martha Raddatz, and Huma Khan: http://abcn.ws/hDNG76)

Meanwhile, as ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf points out, some conservative Republicans like Newt Gingrich are criticizing the President for not having a coherent policy. Sarah Palin is frustrated that he’s apologizing all the time. And some lawmakers, including moderates like Sens. Jim Webb, D-Va., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind., are also expressing their concerns.

“There needs to be a plan about what happens after Gadhafi,” Lugar said yesterday. “Who will be in charge then, and who pays for this all? President Obama, so far, has only expressed vague hopes.”

Lugar’s comments were more tempered than those of his GOP colleague, Rep. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md., who said yesterday that the president’s “unilateral choice to use U.S. military force in Libya is an affront to our Constitution.”

“The United States does not have a King's army,” Bartlett said in a statement yesterday.

Some liberals are fuming too. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, called Obama’s authorization of force an “impeachable offense.”

BOTTOM LINE: Despite some loud voices of discontent on the left and right, President Obama’s decision to intervene will likely be supported by most in Congress unless it drags on or goes terribly wrong, ABC’s senior political correspondent Jonathan Karl notes. The voices of outrage have been the predictable ones. There’s a silent majority that might not be thrilled about it — and would like to see the president do more to inform Congress and explain to the public why this action is necessary — but is more than willing to give the commander-in-chief the benefit of the doubt, at least for now.

Also worth noting are the economic costs of the military action at a time of tense negotiations over the budget and debt ceiling. As The Hill’s Russell Berman and John T. Bennett point out today, “U.S. military operations in Libya could wipe out a significant chunk of the budget cuts won by congressional Republicans in recent weeks, defense analysts say. GOP leaders have trumpeted enacted spending reductions that amount to more than $285 million per day since the beginning of March. … [The] Pentagon could be burning through more than $100 million per day in Libya, putting those budget savings at risk.” http://bit.ly/gOggvx

And what do the American people think about all of this? According to a new CNN/Opinion Research poll, 70 percent of Americans support the enforcement of a no-fly zone in Libya, while just half — 50 percent — support President Obama’s handling of the situation.

JAKE TAPPER’S WHITE HOUSE WATCH. The White House pushed back Tuesday against suggestions that the international coalition supporting Operation Odyssey Dawn is fraying, and that the White House didn’t adequately consult with Congress before launching attacks against the Libyan government on Saturday, Tapper notes. Amidst reports of potential partners such as Norway and the UAE hesitating or pulling back from contributing military assets to the effort, a senior White House official told ABC News that “on any given day of a complex situation there will be different data points, but the fact is we have effectively destroyed Gadhafi's air defenses, he has pulled back from Benghazi, and the coalition continues to grow.” The official also said that on Monday “allies flew more missions than the U.S. for the first time.” The government of Qatar is “moving in a positive direction,” the official said, with the Canadians, Spanish, Italians and Danes committing to join.” http://abcn.ws/eNyOCk 

 

ROMNEY ON LIBYA. Mitt Romney offered his first words on the military strike on Libya last night — supporting the decision to intervene, but hammering President Obama for the way he made the decision. “I support military action in Libya. I support out troops there in the mission they've been given,” Romney said in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt radio show. “But let me also note that thus far the President has been unable to construct a foreign policy, any foreign policy,” he added. “He calls for the removal of Moammar Kadafi but then conditions our action on the directions we get from the Arab League and the United Nations.” http://abcn.ws/htj84E

 

PAWLENTY GOES EXPLORING. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty announced the formation of a presidential exploratory committee in a Facebook message to supporters yesterday. It’s already clear that Pawlenty will build his campaign around his blue-collar origins, a compelling personal story as the grandson of immigrants who put himself through college and became the conservative Republican governor of a relatively blue state. "We know what we need to do: grow jobs, limit government spending and tackle entitlements," he said in a video message. "Join the team and, together, we'll restore America. http://abcn.ws/fw79jg

Pawlenty faces a steeper climb than other potential rivals, such as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, as he introduces himself to voters. In a recent ABC News-Washington Post poll, for example, 58 percent of Republican-leaning voters had yet to form an opinion of Pawlenty compared to 19 percent for Romney and 5 percent for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Another question Pawlenty faces is whether he can raise enough money to fund a successful campaign, especially when he will potentially be competing against candidates with the resources to pour large sums of personal money into their campaigns such as Romney and Ambassador Jon Huntsman. But sources close to Pawlenty have said that the past couple of months were about taking the pulse of donors: If the money wasn't there, he wasn't going to run. That he made this announcement yesterday suggests he and his team are confident about his ability to raise money.

 

AIR MCCASKILL GROUNDED. “Missouri Democrat Claire McCaskill has made fighting government waste, pork barrel spending and corruption the focus of her entire political persona,” ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf and Matthew Jaffe note. “That’s why her admission that she may have improperly charged taxpayers for a flight to a political event on her private plane could be particularly troubling to her brand. McCaskill is up for reelection in 2012 and facing a likely tough campaign. She quickly repaid about $88,000 to taxpayers for all her flights on the plane, when she was asked about them by Politico earlier this month. But the resulting review of her plane unearthed something more troubling. McCaskill admitted Monday she had failed to pay four years of taxes on the plan — $287,000 worth. In a conference call with reporters McCaskill said she will get rid of the plane. ‘I have convinced my husband to sell the damn plane,’ McCaskill said. ‘I will never set foot on the plane again.”She said there was never a bill for the property tax sent by the state or county because, in an oversight, she had never reported to the county that the plan was being kept in St. Louis. The plane is owned by a Delaware corporation set up by her husband, the businessman Joe Shepard.” http://abcn.ws/gh8jQp

THE BIG PICTURE. Democrats argue that by coming clean voluntarily and in her trademark no-nonsense way (“sell the damn plane”), McCaskill helped limit the damage. But, is this really the end of this story or are there other shoes to drop? “Millionaire Claire McCaskill wants to simply write yet another big check and hope people won’t ask any more questions,” National Republican Senatorial Committee executive director Rob Jesmer said yesterday. “It’s high time for McCaskill to finally live up to the same standards of transparency and accountability that she demands of others by immediately releasing her shell company tax records.” Notably, Republicans need to pick up four seats — three if they win the White House — to take control of the Senate in 2012. And they've got plenty of good targets. Even Democrats admit privately that the North Dakota open seat is a goner. That means Republicans need to win just half of the Democrats’ 6 most vulnerable seats, to get to a majority: Montana (Tester), Nebraska (Nelson), New Mexico (open), Virginia (open), Missouri (McCaskill), and West Virginia (Manchin). Assuming, of course, that Republicans hold onto their two vulnerable seats in Massachusetts (Brown) and Nevada (open).

ON TODAY’S “TOP LINE.” ABC’s Jonathan Karl and Z. Byron Wolf interview Steven Cook, a senior fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, to talk about the situation in Libya as well as the broader unrest in the region. Watch “Top Line” LIVE at 12:00 p.m. Eastern. http://bit.ly/ABCTopLine

“TOP LINE” REPLAY: NEERA TANDEN. The Chief Operating Officer of the Center for American Progress, who helped shape the one-year-old health care law as a top adviser in the Department Health and Human Services, predicted on “Top Line” yesterday that the law will grow more popular as its benefits continue to kick in. “It's obviously a sweet day because the law is actually delivering benefits — so it's a great day,” Tand3n told ABC’s “Top Line.” “I think it's unfortunate that there's been so much partisan give and take around the bill and that it continues to this day. But I think over the long haul, this bill will be seen as a crowning achievement for the president. And that's why he's going to defend it and he will defend it in the budget negotiations going forward.” http://abcn.ws/g20mvx  

 

THE BUZZ

KEEPING UP WITH OBAMA. “Barack Obama raised $59 million for his presidential campaign during the first half of 2007. To match that, prospective Republican challengers to his re- election would need to take in roughly $590,000 a day until June 30 if they entered the race today,” Bloomberg’s Jonathan D. Salant writes. “‘It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for the Republicans to raise as much money as Obama,’ said former Republican National Committee finance chairman Al Hoffman Jr., a North Palm Beach, Florida, real estate developer. Even so, that doesn’t mean the Republicans can’t mitigate an Obama funding advantage. Independent outside groups, such as Karl Rove’s American Crossroads, that helped the party win control of the U.S. House in 2010 are preparing for 2012. And prospective candidates are lining up major fundraisers and preparing efforts to attract small donors. ‘All of the potential serious candidates have been laying that groundwork for a long time,’ said former Republican Representative Bill Paxon of New York, a senior adviser at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP. ‘Just because they haven’t actually started collecting the resources doesn’t mean they haven’t been working on building the infrastructure that will allow them to collect the checks’ when needed.” http://bloom.bg/eFjnf3

DEMOCRATS TAKE ON GOP LAWMAKERS OVER SOCIAL SECURITY. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is rolling out another phase of its advertising and grassroots campaign to hold accountable House Republicans who support Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s plan to reform Social Security. Or as the DCCC, puts it, Ryan’s efforts to “radical scheme to privatize Social Security and dismantle Medicare as we know it.” The Committee is launching a new Web site, www.stopbenefitcuts.com, and will run newspaper ads, phone calls, and emails starting on Wednesday in districts of the following Republican members of the House: Paul Gosar of Arizona, Bill Young and Allen West of Florida, Dan Benishek of Michigan, Joe Heck of Nevada, Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania, Blake Farenthold of Texas, Paul Ryan  and Sean Duffy of Wisconsin, and David McKinley of West Virginia.

IS HALEY BARBOUR REWRITING THE 2012 SCRIPT? “Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour can seem like a man from another time — out of step not only with the age of Barack Obama, but also with the era of the tea party movement,” The Washington Post’s Karen Tumulty writes. “He is an insider’s insider — a backroom dealer, a trader of favors, a conservator of the establishment — at a moment when the Republican Party is in the grip of an insurgency against all three. But however abundant Barbour’s liabilities are, he would enter the 2012 race as a credible contender, even a formidable one, in a GOP field that is the most wide open and unsettled it has been in half a century. The former Republican National Committee chairman — and, yes, people call him Haley, like a one-name rock star — would start with a political network unmatched by any other potential GOP candidate, with the possible exception of former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.). Although Barbour barely registers in the polls, even among Republicans, it is hard to think of any other figure who could tap a deeper reservoir of affection and gratitude among the people who write the checks and run the party machinery.” http://wapo.st/eKG3bc

FORMER GEORGIA GOV BACKS GINGRICH. “Former Gov. Sonny Perdue said Monday he would back a Newt Gingrich bid for president next year, giving the former U.S. House speaker the early endorsements of the current and former chief executives of Georgia,” the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Aaron Gould Sheinin reports. ‘The idea of a Newt Gingrich candidacy is very intriguing,’ Perdue said of the former Georgia congressman who is currently exploring a potential campaign for the Republican nomination. Gov. Nathan Deal, the Republican who succeeded Perdue in office, has already endorsed Gingrich. … Perdue said he and Gingrich have kept in touch over the years and that the race to upset President Barack Obama will be about ‘ideas.’” http://bit.ly/f86BZV

NOTABLE: HEALTH CARE REFORM TURNS ONE. “It was a year ago that President Obama, after months of heated rhetoric, fiery debates and partisan wrangling, signed the historic health care bill into law,” ABC’s Huma Khan notes. “The Affordable Care Act includes a wide variety of changes to be rolled out piecemeal by 2014. Many have already been implemented, including those that benefit small businesses and Americans with pre-existing conditions. Others are targeted to people such as the poor, those under the age of 26 and senior citizens. … Overall, 13 percent say their family has benefited from health reform over the past year, while 20 percent report having suffered a negative effect.” Here’s a snapshot of the provisions that have already been rolled out and what they mean to you: http://abcn.ws/dLSFH9

 

WHO’S TWEETING?

@Reuters: FLASH: French govt says NATO will support coalition partners on Libya when U.S. scales back participation

@HowardKurtz: Harrowing tale of Libya's mistreatment of 4 NYT journalists, including threats, punches, groping of Lynsey Addario.http://thebea.st/gXY2kY

@FredVMalek: What's really in the WI collective bargaining bill? My piece in the @DailyCallerhttp://bit.ly/f1OcqI

@ErinMcPike: Jon Huntsman's resume may be enviable to other GOP prez contenders for the accolades he's won. My story:http://tinyurl.com/5se2nme #GOP12

@WestWingReport: The War Powers Resolution was vetoed by President Nixon back in 1973; Congress overrode his veto with a 2/3 majority


POLITICAL RADAR:

* Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour will travel to Carson City, Nevada to meet with GOP leadership, state legislators and Gov. Brian Sandoval.

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User Comments

When are we going to see protesters camped out in front of Obamas house? Where are you left wing libs? Why are you not crying to get out. Where are the WMDs at?? Why are you not calling this guy names for getting us into Lybia? Sounds like the hipocrite politics you all play is eating you up now.

Posted by: Jim Rod | March 22, 2011, 10:47 am 10:47 am

“When are we going to see protesters camped out in front of Obamas house? Where are you left wing libs? Why are you not crying to get out. Where are the WMDs at?? Why are you not calling this guy names for getting us into Lybia?…”
BECAUSE… unlike the picture this article is trying to portray, people recognize and applaud intelligence. Let me elaborate upon that… Given this President’s demeanor and past actions it is highly unlikely that he would engage us in a military effort without a plan. Of course we don’t know if it work or not (and you might agree or disagree) but make no mistake there is a plan. People feel secure in that. Unlike someone like Sarah Palin who people recognize as woefully unaware and could possibly engage us in “something” without a clear plan. People are secure with that fact too.
Republicans and naysayers are just trying to politicize this issue because if you remember ONLY LAST WEEK you guys were complaining that he wasn’t doing anything. Clearly the President can’t be bothered with all your cacaphonius noise because he has a job to do and he is doing it!
Also…can you naysayers let me in on “what’s up” with spelling Libya as Lybia? I seen it quite a few times… and only from the naysayers.

Posted by: Mytakeonthis61 | March 22, 2011, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I dont think it is an impeachable offense. But congress policy in Iraq should be examined to see if that is right.

Posted by: j | March 22, 2011, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Mytakeonthis61 | Mar 22, 2011 11:09:14 AM
How about Obama let Congress in on his “plan”. Clearly, we have policy conflict here. Our UN mandate is to set up a no fly zone to protect “civilians”. Our US policy is get rid of Gadhafi. Our only plan we have heard so far is to attack and then, “within days” fall back and let NATO and UN forces handle it, except for our unique capabilities. Which capabilities: stealth, air refueling, special forces, GPS and SMD bombs, immense resources? Hmm, which partner in this can bring all of that to bear in this attack? So, while Obama said we would be days, not weeks, what is his plan to make that happen?

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 11:41 am 11:41 am

What did you think would happen when you elected a community organizer to be the commander and chief??? I mean really.

Posted by: billy bob | March 22, 2011, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Yet another dog and pony show from the Republicans. another chance for them to flap their lips and make up scenerios out of thin air to bolster their election. another chance to frighten and anger the ignorant who vote for them.
another opportunity to deceive the public even thought they really do know the why and where-fors of our position on Libya.
Another opportunity for them to stand up and say, metaphorically, they are willing to let the people of Libya die rather than take money out of their own pockets.

Posted by: Wayne | March 22, 2011, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

wow…i never knew there were so many racists in the democrat party. last night on cnn i even saw a black congresswoman spewing her racist hatred of our first black president. i mean, is there any other interpretation considering that we were told back at the beginning of obama’s tenure that all opposition to him from republicans and tea partiers was nothing but racism…i can only assume that the opposition and criticism he is facing from his own party is based in nothing but racism, right? or are these complaints from democrats over libya “principled” whereas the same complaints from republicans are racist? someone please clarify this for me, i’m really confused. is it possible to criticize obama and not be a racist…or does it depend on who is doing the critizing?

Posted by: grumpopolis | March 22, 2011, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Meanwhile, I’d like to hear from the Republicans: what is the “plan” to create JOBS?

Posted by: green.goddess | March 22, 2011, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

green.goddess | Mar 22, 2011 1:12:35 PM
So you are OK with us simply attacking a nation that posed no threat to us right?

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

MYTAKEONTHIS glad to see your an Obama supporter. I now see what is wrong with our great nation. You get to vote. Obama has no more intelligence than a neighborhood activist who all he knows to do is call city hall and blame someone else. He campained against this type of action and he is doing it. Wake up get out of the trance. He failed in his campain promises and economic policies. All this guy has down is spend money on useless programs that only prolong the misery of his failed presidentcy. 2012 is a new year of this nation being taken back from the socialist controlled Senate. Sit back, watch and learn how a nation should be run in 2012

Posted by: Jim Rod | March 22, 2011, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

We sat back and watched a genocide in Ruwanda where nearly a million people were slaughtered…We have not truly recovered from that.. A Nation which values human life CANNOT sit by as a well armed Tyrant kills everyone who lives on the opposite side of a battle front.
The Secretary of Defense warned us about the consequences of our actions,
but the HAWKS (mostly republicans) love war and love to meddle in the affairs of other nations.
The President cannot ignore the desires of those who rose up against the first
Terrorist leader in modern memory..
Nobody new who Ben Ladin was when Quadafi attacked a nightclub with American Service personel in a German Disco and then blew up a 747 over Scotland.
The President has done what he can to help freedom fighters without sending in ground forces.
He didn’t ask Congress for a debate because the war would be over and Quadifi would have won had we waited for the snail paced congress to act.
Remember this folks…the easiest thing any of these so called leaders can do is criticize or arm chair quaterback the decisions made by our Comander in Chief. Doing so give “AID AND COMFORT TO OUR EMEMIES”.

Posted by: Blackie | March 22, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Where is Cindy Sheehan? The networks had her on daily during the Iraq war, bashing the President.
Now the networks are downplaying the dissent…

Posted by: Bob | March 22, 2011, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Someone needs to point out to Obama that he is not the leader of the United Nations or the Arab Nations. He is supposed to be the leader of the United States. He is supposed to be a Constitutional scholar. He is ignoring the Constitution and breaking the United States, all because a few Arab nations supposedly wanted the US involved. THIS MAN HAS THE WRONG PRIORITIES!

Posted by: wheresmymoney | March 22, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Blackie–”Remember this folks…the easiest thing any of these so called leaders can do is criticize or arm chair quaterback the decisions made by our Comander in Chief. Doing so give “AID AND COMFORT TO OUR EMEMIES”._- You mean like the democrats did to George W Bush throughout the Iraq war? Like when harry reid said “This war is Lost” Likle when Kerry said “I was for this war before i was against it” — Like when Hillary said “We voted to allow military action but we didn’t actually want the president to use the power we gave him”… the democratic party WROTE THE BOOK ON AID AND COMFORT TO OUR ENEMIES.. Scratch that… let me rephrase.. the DEMOCRATS didn’t write that book, the PROGRESSIVES did..

Posted by: arkie vet | March 22, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

The negative reaction and resulting hypocrital criticism concerning the President’s decision….is just that. Total hypocritical, emotional garbage. If the President does what he has outlined…then he should be supported, The hypocritical GOP was going to criticize him either way…and everyone with a brain knows that. And every recent President since Reagan has been faced with this type of “moral obligation decision”. As I posted on a “similar article on this topic” at least Libya has a natural resource that the world needs and can utilize – unlike Afghanistan which is nothing more than a negative “money pit” that will revert to their “tribal ways” once we leave it.

Posted by: CND FOX | March 22, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

green.goddess–’Meanwhile, I’d like to hear from the Republicans: what is the “plan” to create JOBS?”– No, you wouldn’t LIKE to hear it because its out there if only you would listen… No one is keeping it a secret.. Make the tax cuts permanent to stimulate REAL economic growth and get companies to let go of some of the capital that they are holding..REPEAL and rewrite Obamacare so that it actually works FOR America and not simply builds another unsustainable government entity, Invest in Domestic energy resources while pursuing new energy in a reasonable manner, CUT spending and stop printing money (quantative easing) so the we are not faced with hyper inflation like we were at the end of the Carter administration… Its all out there green goddess… and It WILL work far better than the Keynesian STIMULUS plan of our current administration that basically just throws money we don’t have at a problem with NO REAL RESULTS..

Posted by: arkie vet | March 22, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

O’s 2009 speech to the Arab countries;
Now the White House says the goal is democracy for Libya. Well…
President Obama, 2009: “I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.”
Oops!!!

Posted by: patrick | March 22, 2011, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

arkie vet | Mar 22, 2011 3:51:15 PM
That’s gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

WAYNE–”another opportunity to deceive the public even thought they really do know the why and where-fors of our position on Libya”– Big statement.. why don’t you enlighten us all.. WHAT EXACTLY is our current presidents “position” on Libya?? Since his own people seems to have about three differnet versions of what it is, and the democrats have an even differnet one assuming they are not part of the group that feels completly betrayed by his actions.. If he is just trying to protect the rebels, then why didn’t he do it two weeks ago? BEFORE two strongholds went back to Quadaffi and about 10,000 of them died. If He is not trying to dipose a dictator then why did he have the UN authorize air strikes against Quadaffi.. Those are not required for a No-fly zone.. Why did he wait, why did he do it without congressional approval (required by law).. Apparently US law means little to this president.. Just ask Arizona, Florida, and Louisiana..

Posted by: arkie vet | March 22, 2011, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

“”"”"the President must make an “on-time, big picture” decision. “”"”"
Posted by: CND FOX
But did he make the right one after 40 days of dissecting? As was said, he is authorized a no fly zone to stop attacks on civilians. How do you define the rebel opposition? The UN mandate is now met, yet we are destroying Libya’s forces daily. OUR US policy, as Obama said, is regime change. How much of our policy is going to drive our actions on the battlefield? We have chosen sides with an ally we don’t know anything about. Hardly a smart move.

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

You right wing nuts drive me up the wall. You guys complain about everything Obama does! Listen, it’s damn if you do, damn if you don’t, you guys were going to complain no matter what he did. If Obama had done nothing, you’d be saying that he’s weak and he’s letting Gadhafi slaughter innocent people. As far as I am concerned, the republican party has lost all credibility (if it ever had any) with me. They are not really concerned about what’s going on; they just “WANT OBAMA TO FAIL.”

Posted by: martin | March 22, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

martin | Mar 22, 2011 4:19:19 PM
Are you hear simply to rant or do you agree with the way Obama is handling Libya?

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

This POTUS is a joke to all of America. He DOES NOT have America’s best interest in his mind. He is so full of lies it is uncomprehensible. Worst day in history is when he was voted in as POTUS. He is tearing this country apart.

Posted by: tennishoe28 | March 22, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

“”"”"If the President does what he has outlined…then he should be supported,”"”"”
Posted by: CND FOX
Here’s the outline: 1) Attack Libya and set up a no fly zone. 2) Prevent civilians inside Libya from being harmed by Gadhafi. 3) Have the US drop back using only our “unique” resources while “someone” else takes the lead. That’s it for the mandate, BUT 4) It is US policy to remove Gadhafi.
So, the decision to attack a sovereign nation that posed absolutely no threat to us is OK by you. So I will say this, Iraq’s dictator GASED Halabje and nobody cared, but you were up in arms when we actually went after Saddam. And don’t come with the WMD BS because everyone had the same intel and all voted for the war. Why is it OK now and not back then? How are we going to balance UN policy with our Obama stated US policy?

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

“”"”"unlike your favorite president, GWB! You would have been one of the first ones to complain if he had done nothing.”"”"”"
Posted by: martin
You obviously don’t know me very well, or at all. IF you read my posts since this began, you would have seen I said the President needs to say “we wish for a peaceful solution to the issues facing Libya” AND STAY OUT OF IT. How many times have lefties said “we aren’t the world policeman”? Secondly, I didn’t vote for Bush BECAUSE of his handling of the wars. Try again!

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Lfrichar”…you know as well as I that it is way too early to criticize the President’s decision. And we will never know how many “genocidal deaths” that were prevented by his decision to take action. If you haven’t included that in your decision to “criticize” … you should have. And like it or not …Libya has oil and we have American oil companies there. Therefore…I would say almost everyone’s “criticism” that I have read so far is “pretty small” and does not match the “reality” of the situation our President faces. For the sake of Libya’s “rebels” and our own American companies.

Posted by: CND FOX | March 22, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

CND FOX | Mar 22, 2011 4:46:00 PM
It’s not too early. It is his decision to attack a country that posed no threat to us whatsoever. His decision was wrong. Furthermore, we have taken sides in a civil war with an ally we don’t even know. I consider you intelligent and have sparred with you many times, but just looking at those 2 items, how can we even say he made the right decision?

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

CND FOX | Mar 22, 2011 4:46:00 PM
Please don’t get me wrong, I hope we are extremely successful and he will receive the credit for that if we are, but I believe, besides being the wrong decision intitially, we hastily began the attack, I believe, because of the French initial actions within Libya. That’s what make me a bit nervous if we hand this over to others.

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Lfrichar”…time will give us the answer. Until then we should support our President. As bad as I thought Bush was….when he made his intitial decisions I gave it it time before I vented my criticism of him. There is a a powerful “money, neocon group” (not accusing you of being one of them) that has done NOTHING but tear this President down since he took office. To me that is totally – “un-American”. I hate to say this is all about money (oil) because I believe our President is very much a good “human being” (and is also thinking of the rebels) but you and I know that the “oil & money”…is a large part of this decision.

Posted by: CND FOX | March 22, 2011, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Lfrichar: You didn’t vote for Bush? So did you vote for Gore or Kerry? Are you a closet democrat? :)Wow, maybe I have to start being nicer to you. Hm… hm…Not! Your blogs lean too heavily to the right. In your heart of hearts you know Obama is doing a better job than anyone the republicans have now, and after the republicans have ticked off all of the union people in the midwest,that area is going back to Obama. The republicans are not going to win with their narrow focus; the country is changing; that’s why so many of the right wing (“I want my country back”) are nervous. Have a great day!

Posted by: martin | March 22, 2011, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

CND FOX | Mar 22, 2011 5:16:10 PM
I only have one President and being retired military, of course my support is there. Staying out of it is a moot point now isn’t it? Anyone that doesn’t hope for the best is un American. Politically, even if this goes well, I think Obama will be hurt a little because of what some must see as a drastic move for Obama (given much of what he has said about war in the past). Let’s just hope forthe best.

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

martin | Mar 22, 2011 5:17:46 PM
Kerry.

Posted by: lfrichar | March 22, 2011, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm

Lfrichar…I agree. We should always “hope for the best” in this complicated, convoluted world.

Posted by: CND FOX | March 22, 2011, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Lfrichar: I’m beginning to like you. Oh my God, I’m in trouble. Have a great evening!

Posted by: martin | March 22, 2011, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

Obama is a loose cannon, a cowboy. His stated reasons and goals for invasion keep shifting with high possibility of mission creep. The American people don’t know who we are assisting in Libya. “Gimme Some Truth” ABC and the rest of the alphabet.

Posted by: pinky | March 22, 2011, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Pinky”…LOL…a “cowboy”? I think you have our current President confused with our “former one”. And he…was a “stupid cowboy” at that! LOL…LOL

Posted by: CND FOX | March 23, 2011, 7:22 am 7:22 am

CND FOX | Mar 23, 2011 7:22:22 AM
OK, that was funny!

Posted by: lfrichar | March 23, 2011, 9:32 am 9:32 am

wHERE WAS THE ANGST AND FRUSTRATION WHEN BUSH TOOK US INTO A WAR WITH LIES. NOT ONE. Now this president has asked us to help save lives and do a fly over which other presidents have done without the congress and all hell breaks lose. Just because he is Obama..that is all this about…lets get him on everything..that is the mantra of the republican party. While at the same time they are ignoring theier campaign promises of JOBS JOBS JOBS..REMEMBER Mr. Boehner? They are wasting time taking women’s rights away and busting unions and complaining about the deficit and still giving corporations big tax breaks and asking the teachers and firemen and cops to pay for it. Are you listening America?

Posted by: talmag | March 23, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Arkie Vet, thanks for reading…
But here’s where you and many on this site are wrong..
1. Taxes are at there lowest point in our life time. (I was born in 58)
2. Capitol Gains lowest in memory.
3. Regulations under 12 years of Repub.
control 94 -06 and 8 years of Bush were at best LACKS. The financial sector is virtually un-regulated.
4. It was wall street and the private sector that crashed the economy.
5. No inheritance taxes in 2010.
6. Tax cuts for Billionaires busted the budget. Do you really think they needed it. as you said..a lot of capitol is setting idle because they want President Obama to fail not because of uncertainty…that’s BULL.
7. 847-Billion dollars for defense..
do you really believe we can’t defend the country on 500-Billion.
8. The Republicn party will not REPLACE the Affordable Insurance bill which was formed by the Insurance Companies..with lots of Republican ideas…No public option..not one insurance company was nationalized…
9. If Obama had not acted…last night
that Bas&$#d Hannity kept repeating the phrase “dither and delayed” about 20 times, so I guess according to FOX Noise we should have attacked Lybia sooner..Obama is ‘damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
What would you do?
The Republican’s have voted on 3 anti-abortion bills since they got back into power…NOT ONE MEASURE TO HELP EMPLOYMENT.. IN FACT THEY WILL INCREASE UNEMPLOYMENT BY CUTTING FEDERAL JOBS.
Great job Behner.
Republicans are for the rich..if your are rich then I guess you’re happy..
but they are waging war against us trying to be middle class..shame..shame.

Posted by: Blackie | March 23, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

TALMAG: You speak the truth (you hear that Lfrichar) God bless you!!

Posted by: martin | March 23, 2011, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Invest in Domestic energy resources while pursuing new energy in a reasonable manner, CUT spending and stop printing money (quantative easing) so the we are not faced with hyper inflation like we were at the end of the Carter administration… Its all out there green goddess. http://www/top-seoexpert.com

Posted by: john | March 31, 2011, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Hey friend

Posted by: Hans Gunther | September 6, 2011, 8:28 am 8:28 am

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