Apr 16, 2011 10:43am

Obama on Signing Statements, 2008

In May 2008, then-Sen. Obama denounced the notion of presidential signing statements – wherein a president says he will choose not to abide by a provision in a bill he has just signed – at an event in Grand Junction, Colorado.

This pledge to voters is not as nuanced as the 2007 statement he gave to the Boston Globe about the matter,  and certainly would seem to convey a different take on signing statements than his actions yesterday would indicate.  Watch for yourself:

 

We should also note this is hardly the first time the Obama administration has done this in one form or another. (See HERE and HERE and HERE.) For more on presidential signing statements historically, see this 2007 study

-Jake Tapper

User Comments

As I’ve said many times before. With Obama words, speeches, etc are meaningless. Only his actions, which most often belie his words, matter. Examples abound of actions contrary to his fluffy rhetoric. He uses speeches and rhetoric the way Nation Sates use dis-information. That is the reason I refused to watch Stepanopolis’s recent interview. Why? Simply discount Obmas’s words and judge him on his actions.

Posted by: pauldia | April 16, 2011, 11:52 am 11:52 am

He can have as many advisors as he wants, but Congress controls the money. If he thinks separation of power means he has a bottomless supply of funding for the executive branch, I think Congress should call his bluff.

Posted by: MayBee | April 16, 2011, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Barack Hussein Obama is a failure because he doesn’t have any principals.
As a Senator he was for transparency.
As President he isn’t transparent.
As a Senator he was against signing statements.
As President he uses signing statements.
As a Senator he was against raising the debt limit.
As President he wants the limit increased.
As a Senator he was against Wars.
As President he says Iraq is a success, increased the effort in Vietnamistan the Sequel and started military operations in Libya.
As a Senator he was against the Big Banks.
As President he bailed them out.
As a Senator he was against 4 more years of Bush.
As President he has given us 4 more years of Bush.
It isn’t his fault though, it’s a result of being raised so poorly.
He was abandoned by his Dad.
His Mom left him behind to move to Jakarta.
He then was raised by his maternal Grandparents. The same folks who raised Stanley so well that she picked a loser to have a baby with and didn’t finish raising her own son.
Values and Principals were not fixtures in the Obama House.
It is our fault that we voted for this kind of man.

Posted by: Noz | April 16, 2011, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

You have to be a complete idiot to believe anything Barack Obama says.

Posted by: drjohn | April 16, 2011, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

“Hope and Change” you mean “Shallow and Hypocritical”?

Posted by: shawn | April 16, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

If you want a detailed evaluation of how many promises Obama has kept or not kept PolitiFact is keeping track of hundreds of them. There is no need to seriously consider heavily abbreviated and biased right-wing selections mixed with amateur psycho-babble. If there is any doubt about how Obama got elected simply review Sarah Palin’s interviews with Katie Couric, it was all she wrote.

Posted by: Skip | April 16, 2011, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

So… You have to ask yourself, did Obama study the Constitution just to look for loopholes?
Hey, Mrs. Palin really took him out back to the woodshed in Madison today.
She was awesome!

Posted by: Bo, PWD | April 16, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

That “Ms. Palin’s” opinions are considered of any noteable worth shows the extreme shallowness of the right wing brain pool. Sad indeed.

Posted by: Dan | April 16, 2011, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

“If there is any doubt about how Obama got elected simply review Sarah Palin’s interviews with Katie Couric, it was all she wrote.” – Skip
Yeah, Couric did a lousy job. After her amateur interview the American Public didn’t have any idea what Palin was all about. You would think a pro reporter could do better work. Thank Goodness she is leaving the profession after her failed attempt at News Anchor.
“That “Ms. Palin’s” opinions are considered of any noteable worth shows the extreme shallowness of the right wing brain pool.” – Dan
Excuse me Dan, but Palin wanted to drill for oil and use the resources that we have here to make us more self reliant. That is an opinion worthy of consideration and it’s too bad our current President doesn’t understand energy and what to do about it.

Posted by: Noz | April 16, 2011, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

“That “Ms. Palin’s” opinions are considered of any noteable worth shows the extreme shallowness of the right wing brain pool.” – Dan
Excuse me Dan, but Palin wanted to drill for oil and use the resources that we have here to make us more self reliant. That is an opinion worthy of consideration and it’s too bad our current President doesn’t understand energy and what to do about it.
Posted by: Noz | Apr 16, 2011 6:52:14 PM
Ms. Palin’s opinion ‘drill, drill, drill’ had the depth of a third grade moron.
Again, this is what the Republican brain trust has to offer?

Posted by: Dan | April 16, 2011, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

“Excuse me Dan, but Palin wanted to drill for oil and use the resources that we have here to make us more self reliant. ”
That is not correct. It is as woefully ignorant as anything you would expect considering the source.
For the uninformed, Palin wanted to open up leasing of federal lands and waters for oil drilling. That is of course not the same thing as wanting to drill for oil, given the fact that millions acres of leases are going unused already.

Posted by: Flash Override | April 16, 2011, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

He is simply a dishonest man.
If he does indeed fund his “czars” without congressional appropriation of the funds to do so, he is doing exactly what Reagan did in funneling unappropriated funds, against the congressional action, to the Contras.
Are you dopes starting to get the picture about this guy?

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | April 16, 2011, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

“Ms. Palin’s opinion ‘drill, drill, drill’ had the depth of a third grade moron.” – Dan
Hummmmm . . . . and yet it is beyond President NoBo’s comprehension.

Posted by: Noz | April 17, 2011, 12:26 am 12:26 am

“…given the fact that millions acres of leases are going unused already.”
Millions of leased acres don’t always produce viable oil wells. A lease only gives the right to explore and drill.

Posted by: Sigmonde | April 17, 2011, 8:48 am 8:48 am

You have to be an idiot to believe anything Obama says. Anything.

Posted by: drjohn | April 17, 2011, 9:46 am 9:46 am

“You have to be an idiot to believe anything Obama says.”
Posted by: drjohn | Apr 17, 2011 9:46:56 AM
An idiot or a paid Obama blogger. They’re pretty easy to identify. They blamed Bush for high gas prices but completely ignore $4 gas now.
They also screamed for more pictures of flag-draped coffins when Bush was in office but ignore the fact that Obama is responsible for more casualties in Afghanistan than Bush was. They also have no problem with Obama prosecuting three additional wars in Yemen, Pakistan, and Libya, all countries that never attacked us. All military actions that Congress never approved.
The Patriot Act was evil under Bush, but when Obama greatly expanded internet and phone wiretapping, it’s not fascist at all. The hypocrisy is endless.

Posted by: Justin | April 17, 2011, 10:05 am 10:05 am

>”You have to be an idiot to believe anything Obama says.”
Posted by: drjohn | Apr 17, 2011 9:46:56 AM<<
…and you'd have to be an idiot journalist to think the public is falling for your crap

Posted by: No Soy Paco | April 17, 2011, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

This is far more than simply another cynical, hypocritical flip-flop by this dishonest poseur.
What he is saying he is going to do–spend money for a purpose forbidden by congress–is precisely what Reagan did in Iran-Contra, which of course enraged all the usual suspects in the MSM. Still waiting to hear from them now.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | April 17, 2011, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

aside to PAULDIA….I guess you realize that what you are saying is that we have NOTHING on which to judge him….and you are right, my friend!

Posted by: justj joey | April 17, 2011, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

The problem is Obama is PEFECTLY safe when he copies Bush. And Bush was our worst power-grabbing, Constitution-crippling, “I’ll obey the law when its expedient for my political agenda” President ever.
For eight years Republicans were completely mum about what Bush was doing simply because he was anti-abortion and pro-their-crony-capitalism. Now, all of a sudden Republicans turn hypocrites and say signing statements are wrong simply because Obama’s cronies are on the other end of the scale!
Obama is Bush III. We deserve everything that’s coming – actually, the Bush Republicans ASKED for it, and now the harvest is coming in. It’s a two-edged sword.

Posted by: dave | April 17, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Some Americans are blogging that Mr. Obama is a dictator. They are flat wrong. Dictators implies lying, but a liar does not imply dictatorship.

Posted by: young_voter | April 17, 2011, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Barak is a dictator; as was Bush and Clinton before him. Every year the dictatorial powers of the Executive, and the President, increase. Obama(sic) has expanded the Bush/Clinton era anti-civilrights laws to new heights. Now he is “coming after” the internet, healthcare, banking, besides the exists Patriot Act(s) that he expanded, the warrantless wiretaps, the data mining, the new war(s), the freespeech zones, etc etc etc

Posted by: Ed | April 17, 2011, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Dave,
I don’t have a problem with signing statements, and most Republicans don’t either, which is why they never said anything about Bush.
What we DO have a problem with is hypocrites that demagogue an issue to make a point, and who then turn around and do exactly what they were criticizing before. THAT is why Republicans are making a big deal about this.

Posted by: Jose | April 17, 2011, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Jose,
What I DO have a problem with is hypocrites that demagogue an issue to make a point, and who have ALREADY DONE what they are criticizing.
Take DEFICITS, for example. Bush ran the greatest deficits in American history up until Obama. He ran them EIGHT YEARS IN A ROW, and the Republicans were completely MUM because it was their guy running them (and running us into the ground with big government).
Take HEALTH CARE, for example. Republicans instituted prescription drug coverage to buy the senior vote which cost (and will cost) trillions that we cannot afford. But when Obama buys the young and poor vote with health care handouts, the Republicans say, “Dictator! Socialist!”
Obama is doing EXACTLY what Bush did to destroy the country, only better! (And most Republicans long for their man to be back destroying the country, because they care more about their party than the country.)
The Ds and the Rs are identical now. Their just fighting over who gets to use the credit card. The credit card is more important to most Republicans than the country. They both want to feed the beast because they’ve set it up so that the beast feeds them. It’s so sad.

Posted by: dave | April 18, 2011, 7:07 am 7:07 am

“The Ds and the Rs are identical now. Their just fighting over who gets to use the credit card.” – Dave
Which is why the Tea Party is America’s Great Hope.
Stand Strong T-Party and if Obama takes raising the Credit Limit to the brink, so be it.
You need to force him to be responsible, he won’t do it on his own.
2012 Vote Conservative

Posted by: Noz | April 18, 2011, 7:56 am 7:56 am

“If you want a detailed evaluation of how many promises Obama has kept or not kept PolitiFact is keeping track of hundreds of them.”
Yeah, and according to Politifact Obama’s promise not to use signing statements doesn’t register as promise broken, but “compromised.” That’s all you need to know about their idiotic rating system.
Like Jim Geraghty over at the National Review says, all Obama’s promises come with an expiration date.

Posted by: J.R. | April 18, 2011, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Justin,
. . . not to mention the hypocrisy of the left when they continue to turn a blind eye to the US military death squads in Afghanistan with Obama in office and then impulsively blame Bush for their feigned outrage over the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse. Humiliating nude prisoners is one thing, repeatedly hunting down and murdering civilians in cold blood is radically much worse. Yet all we heard from the left was that the prisoner abuse “must have come from the highest echelons of the White House” sparking riots and death. The media is curiously hush about the death squads.
How about that 2005 hoax about a Koran being flushed down the toilet which never happened? But because the loony left ran with the phony story, riots broke out and 15 people were killed. Liberals lied, people died.

Posted by: EPU | April 18, 2011, 10:10 am 10:10 am

EPU, you don’t see any hypocrisies on the part of Republicans? Not even a teenzy weenzy bit??
Sadly, it’s like 90% of the country has self-blinders on and only see what the other guy is doing wrong, all while they’re doing the EXACT same thing.

Posted by: dave | April 18, 2011, 10:47 am 10:47 am

“He ran them EIGHT YEARS IN A ROW, and the Republicans were completely MUM because it was their guy running them (and running us into the ground with big government).”
Dave, if you actually searched the archives of some popular conservative blogs and magazines I believe you would be shocked at the amount of people crying foul of Bush and his deficits and big-government ways.
Try and step away from the liberals lines you’ve been spoon fed by the media.

Posted by: J.R. | April 18, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

J.R., I used to post at HotAir, but AP is a little too liberal for me – he says the “natural born citizen” requirement of the Constitution is “antiquated.” (Rove would say the same thing, I’m sure, to use Obama to aid the Republican party.)
Precious few establishment Republicans understand what Bush/Rove/McCain/Graham/Boehner tried to/are driving our country to. They think all we need to do is get rid of Obama and put in Romney (or another RINO) and everything will be swell.
They don’t realize that they (the establishment Republicans who are 90% RINO) are the cause of the problem. (Just like Carter needed Nixon to get elected, Obama needed Bush. If Bush weren’t the worst President in history, we would never be experiencing the Obama backlash.)

Posted by: dave | April 18, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

To have Carney so blatantly lie about this confirms to me that these guys will say anything to try to look better,even when the statements are obviously false.I think that this is the key to the birther issue-if they lie and avoid the subject it ultimately will go away. the ONLY reason for such a strategy is that the truth is too terrible to be allowed to come forth.I am now convinced that the Hawaii birth history must be a myth-there can be no other rational excuse for the actions of the White House.For now the most rational explanation is that Obama was born in Washington State and his Grandparents created the Hawaiian birth myth .

Posted by: Nephron | April 18, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

This man thinks he is a dictator or king, or would like to be. He really wants to be global King and how dare we American idiots stand in his way. Wonder if he bows to himself in the mirror and kisses his own hands before he goes to bed?

Posted by: Freedom | April 19, 2011, 10:07 am 10:07 am

wherein a president says he will choose not to abide by a provision in a bill he has just signed – at an event in Grand Junction, Colorado.

Posted by: magic bullet | August 26, 2011, 9:13 am 9:13 am

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