Senate Shoots Down Controversial Ryan Budget & President Obama’s Plan, Too

They need first to get rid of the anti-Robin Hood, along with Boehner, and all the “Save the Wealthy” agenda, and start looking at real answers, figured out with real math, and not the Republican math.

President Bush sure did ruin this country. I am imagining if John KERRY had won with John EDWARDS.

By voting counts the Senate pretty much said that Obama’s plan sucks more than Ryan’s plan.

ERROR ALERT: Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is no longer a Republican!

Voice of Reason,
I hate to brake it to you but she run as independent. Remember the republicans nominated a Tea party guy who was literally measuring the curtain before the election? Alaskans fired him.
Medicare will endure. It is heartless to take 6000 dollars from over 22 seniors to give it to one rich millionaire! It is immoral.

DEANBOB,
Your advice would have come in handy in Nov 2010 when your folks were lying about healthcare. The same healthcare that extended Medicare by more than 8 years without cutting essential benefits but actually expanding it! Remember how the republicans lied about it?

The republican save the wealthy agenda. Too funny!

DeanBob So if the Ryan plan is so so gooood, why doesn’t the party of capitalism (concentration of wealth) not free enterprise advocate implementing it immediately on everyone who has participated in Medicare?

DEANBOB (7:09 PM); Lately in DC a rising tide floats all “turds”.

What was Kay Bailey doing that she couldn’t vote?! Its not like she is running for reelection!

@ ABCNEWS____”In a procedural vote this evening, five GOP senators opposed the Ryan budget: Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Susan Collins of Maine, Olympia Snowe of Maine, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Every Democrat opposed the measure. The final vote tally was 40-57, sending the House-passed Ryan plan down to defeat.”__________Ouch! must must really hurt, congressman Ryan

The gop wants to throw grandpa and grandma under the bus to keep the bush taxcuts for millionaires and billionaires.

I am just wondering that for those of you that earn less than a million dollars a year how are those Bush taxcuts and current economic climate working out for you? Anyone lose their job?

First hand look at how they railroad and played mind games with the President passed healthcare reform!
Now just because it’s Ryan’s plan (that of course he was going to use in 2012 for political gain) the Senior’s don’t understand… how dare they tell those senior’s the truth about this plan.. what worked for the scare mind tactics created by the GOP/Teas REALLY does work even if it is the truth and their usual lies.

Those rabid excuses from Maine, Massachusetts, and Alaska are nothing more than shameful politicians. They are not team players and add to the disgusting state of Washington DC politics.
But, what would one expect from Godless New England and Alaska. They have little or no moral undergirding. It’s all about themselves. But, they’re in Washington because like-kind residents of their respective states voted for them……or was it Acorn that assured their election??
Remember their names: Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Susan Collins of Maine, Olympia Snowe of Maine, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Rand Paul of Kentucky is another issue.

LADIES & GENTLEMEN HERE IS WHAT THE RYAN PLAN DOES;
The Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) demonstrates that the Medicare portion of the Ryan plan shifts rising costs to beneficiaries. “Ballooning health care costs continue to be the main source of the rise in future deficits,” said Dean Baker, an author of the brief. “The Ryan plan does nothing to address the projected explosion in health care costs. Instead it just shifts the burden of these costs more squarely on the shoulders of seniors.” In fact the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) Report of the Ryan Plan Specifies a Spending Path That Would Nearly End Most of
Government Other Than Social Security, Health Care, and Defense by 2050. That means no EPA, EEOC, FDA, Veterans Administration, Department of Education, National Science Foundation, etc. The Plan also Contains Deeper Cuts to Medicare and Medicaid than Ryan Revealed. In addition the Paul Ryan deficit-elimination plan assumes that unemployment will drop to 2.8% by the year 2028.As Paul Krugman points out, the only time we’ve been at this level was briefly, during the Korean War. Even during the crazy .com,unemployment barely broke below 4%. On TAXES, Rep. Ryan’s budget simply doesn’t describe exactly how his tax plan would work, it conveniently skips over important details however, the broad outlines of his tax plan are to:
(a) Maintain the Bush-era tax cuts beyond their expiration in 2012 and cut the top individual tax rate down to 25 percent from 35 percent.
(b) Consolidate the current six tax brackets into some, unspecified, fewer number of brackets
(c) Keep overall tax revenue levels the same
(d) Pay for the enormous tax cut for the top by eliminating or curtailing some, unspecified, tax expenditures
Without the missing details this is nothing but pure political boilerplate which is probably on purpose since any detailed description of his ideas for tax “reform” would reveal a massive tax hike for the middle class. For Rep. Ryan to cut the top rate by nearly one-third and still keep tax revenue the same as it would have been under President’s Bush tax-cut regime means he’s going to have to raise taxes somewhere else. The Rich get their Taxes dropped to 25% (item “a”) but in order to keep the “tax revenue levels the same” (item “c”), that Rich mans tax cut has to be made up by someone. And that someone is you! Republicans are defined by their willingness to believe whatever they want about the world. They are like children, playing in a make-believe world. To call
Republicans members of a political party is a misunderstanding of the situation. Republicanism is a medically verified personality disorder. In short–Republicans don’t need votes, they need medication. And if you vote for these charlatans, YOU DO TOO!
REPUBLICANS ~ Preaching doctrines they know to be untrue to people they believe to be idiots.

“The Republican plan to kill Medicare is a plan to make the rich richer and the sick sicker,”
Apparently the democrats plan is no one get richer and everyone get sicker, one of those “everyone must suffer together” mentality liberals love to use when it comes to something that doesn’t work but they want to keep it. How are the rich getting richer and the sicker getting sicker with his plan? If you are over 55 you are fine, you get to use the same old broken system, but if you are under 55 you have to actually PLAN for the future and SAVE, I forgot, liberals are the party of don’t worry about taking care of yourself big brother will do that for you.

Medicare does need help, but the Ryan voucher plan is not only a joke, (IN FACT IT IS NO JOKING MATTER FOR THOSE WHO WOULD BE EFFECTED), but it is criminal to take away from the people who need it most, to insure healthy retirement for people who have billions of dollars, from the same people, it would be stolen from. They say Ryan’s brave, but I don’t see him standing up to the real problems in this economy.

So is Senator Ryan going to make any changes to the bill to get it passed or just be stubborn and pig-headed and still try to push the same bil through? Is he going to keep beating the same dead horse with the stick? It’s clear that the Tea Party does not want to compromise, that’s the problem.