http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/ The latest Politics news and blog posts from ABC News contributors and bloggers including Jake Tapper, George Stephanopoulos and more. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:42:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141479 Josh Wed, 04 May 2011 06:06:42 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141479 Although India has a No First Use policy, Pakistan doesn't. So any misunderstanding on their part might have resulted in a Dr Strangelove-type scenario between the two nations. Although India has a No First Use policy, Pakistan doesn’t. So any misunderstanding on their part might have resulted in a Dr Strangelove-type scenario between the two nations.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141476 Dave Tue, 03 May 2011 10:19:45 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141476 "As long as you understand that the purpose of torture is *not* to obtain information, that is." Flash, again, you present a FALSE CHOICE (and you can never prove a negative anyway, so why make the argument unless you just want to spout? Sheesh.) Torture does not have just one "purpose," so it's not a question of IS or IS NOT. Just study torture in WWII. It has always had more than one purpose, and yes, its purposes include obtaining information for which it can be very effective when used by the lower elements of humanity. Because no human wants to be tortured. Basic. “As long as you understand that the purpose of torture is *not* to obtain information, that is.”
Flash, again, you present a FALSE CHOICE (and you can never prove a negative anyway, so why make the argument unless you just want to spout? Sheesh.)
Torture does not have just one “purpose,” so it’s not a question of IS or IS NOT. Just study torture in WWII. It has always had more than one purpose, and yes, its purposes include obtaining information for which it can be very effective when used by the lower elements of humanity. Because no human wants to be tortured. Basic.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141474 Flash Override Tue, 03 May 2011 09:45:26 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141474 "Take, absolutely nobody doubts that torture works." As long as you understand that the purpose of torture is not to obtain information, that is. “Take, absolutely nobody doubts that torture works.”
As long as you understand that the purpose of torture is not to obtain information, that is.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141470 Dave Tue, 03 May 2011 00:25:15 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141470 It's SO depressing when we see the "right wing" using the "ends justify the means" mentality. As if even they truly believe there is no reaping what you sow. It’s SO depressing when we see the “right wing” using the “ends justify the means” mentality.
As if even they truly believe there is no reaping what you sow.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141468 Ryan C Tue, 03 May 2011 00:14:41 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141468 Ding Dong...bin Laden is dead. Happy day for all Americans! Ding Dong…bin Laden is dead.
Happy day for all Americans!

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141464 Ryan C Tue, 03 May 2011 00:13:34 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141464 Donald Rumsfeld:"“The United States Department of Defense did not do waterboarding for interrogation purposes to anyone. It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance. But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.”" It appears reality has blown up yet another right wing torture apology. Donald Rumsfeld:”“The United States Department of Defense did not do waterboarding for interrogation purposes to anyone. It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance. But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.””
It appears reality has blown up yet another right wing torture apology.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141460 sherriww Mon, 02 May 2011 23:39:47 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141460 I said it earlier and I will say it again. OUR MILITARY,AND SPECIAL FORCES,AND OUR PRESIDENT,BARACK OBAMA-THE BEST IN THE WORLD! GOD BLESS THEM AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! I said it earlier and I will say it again. OUR MILITARY,AND SPECIAL FORCES,AND OUR PRESIDENT,BARACK OBAMA-THE BEST IN THE WORLD! GOD BLESS THEM AND GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141459 Dave Mon, 02 May 2011 23:17:29 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141459 The only question is does America really want (or need, which is the scarier question) to be like them (the lower elements of humanity)? The only question is does America really want (or need, which is the scarier question) to be like them (the lower elements of humanity)?

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141455 Dave Mon, 02 May 2011 23:16:23 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141455 Sorry Pablo, I don't believe everything I read on the Interweb. There's too much astroturfing and stuff written that is not even meant to be truthful or mimic reality. It's like reading the Star or the National Enquirer. For you, I guess I should have said absolutely no rational person in their right mind doubts that torture works because obviously if it didn't work, the lower elements of humanity throughout history wouldn't have used it for interrogation. Sorry Pablo, I don’t believe everything I read on the Interweb. There’s too much astroturfing and stuff written that is not even meant to be truthful or mimic reality.
It’s like reading the Star or the National Enquirer.
For you, I guess I should have said absolutely no rational person in their right mind doubts that torture works because obviously if it didn’t work, the lower elements of humanity throughout history wouldn’t have used it for interrogation.

]]> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141451 Pablo Mon, 02 May 2011 22:48:51 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/tension-in-the-situation-room-and-the-risk-of-the-pakistani-jets-todays-qs-for-os-wh-522011/#comment-141451 Posted by: Dave | May 2, 2011 6:24:39 PM Have you been asleep the past 10 years. Try googling "torture doesn't work" ...BUT...splashing water into some interogatee's face ain't torture God bless Bush and Cheney Posted by: Dave | May 2, 2011 6:24:39 PM
Have you been asleep the past 10 years. Try googling “torture doesn’t work”
…BUT…splashing water into some interogatee’s face ain’t torture
God bless Bush and Cheney

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