Why Ron Paul Would Not Have Ordered Osama Bin Laden Killing

This man is an idiot. Bin Laden was alive because Clinton had the same mind set.

A little naive Dr. Paul. If OBL was in London he would have been arrested by the local authorities. In Pakistan, they usually don’t. That is the difference. If anybody knew those who kept OBL there would have informed him before the Americans arrived let alone do it themselves. You should have seen the 60 min program about the Tora bora debackle as told by the Leader of the Special forces–Delta that led that potential assault.

Paul is wrong. But the American people should see his death Photo and the disposal
of the body. All this was done with the
Iraq Dictator and sons and their henchman.
The enemy beheads people and has no problem putting it out for the world to see.
Most people sit and grieve while we watch a
love one die and we stomach it. Seeing the
man who started this mess and changed our way of life die, would be fitting. Everyone back in WW2 would have loved to see Hitler put to death but he robbed
us of that. So here we go again.

Ron Paul is on video in 2001 on the congressional floor saying we should authorize the use of Marque and Reprisal to capture or kill Bin Laden. This means that a group like Blackwater would have had Bin Laden 10 years ago. But since we have had such a disastrous policy for so long people are acting like the OBL killing justifies all the wrong actions. Remember GWB and Obama were giving Pakistan billions of our taxpayer money and they were protecting them. We should of ended that a long time ago.
Fools are pretending to be super patriotic when in fact Ron Paul offered solutions that could of ended OBL 10 years ago. Thanks for being statist opportunist schills.

You cannot compare London to Pakistan — apples and oranges. The Brits are with us; the Pakistanis are not. If we had involved the Pakistani government, we would not be talking about OBL’s death. Paul is just jumping on the anti-Obama band wagon.

I love Ron Paul (R-Texas) more than most of his Republican collegues…And I do believe in many Libertarian ideas….BUT.
If a Libertarian had been president in the late 1930′s instead of Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt…WE WOULD ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN/JAPANESE AND ITALIAN.
To be fair, The Pakistani have done many things to help us with the Al Queda threat..because they have suffered with Terrorism as well.
Hundreds of troops were killed in the SWAT valley…but tipping them off before hand of the OBL raid would have been stupid..
We need their supply lines for the war in Afganistan.

I see (sorta) where he is coming from. What if some other country raided one of our towns to do a similar operation? What I don’t get is how an administration that appears in a quandry on how to interrogate prisoners can give a free pass to the killing of anyone. For example a suspected “bad guys” location is discovered and we send a drone over, fire a missile and kill him as well as anyone else who happens to get in the way. No trial, no interrogation, no nothing except death.
Someone has already decided the guilt and the punishment without really knowing the involvement of this person in terror or any crime for that matter.

Posted by: forthought
“This man is an idiot. Bin Laden was alive because Clinton had the same mind set.”
Clinton tried to bomb him to death.

The decision to kill OBL was left up to the SEAL who decided he was a threat and shot him. I back his decision 100%.

when your loyalty goes to the highest bidder you can not depend on diplomatic proceedures and comradery amongst politicians you must strike first ask later

Some interesting Osama history….
1993 (A): Canadian police arrest Ali Mohamed, a high-ranking al-Qaeda figure. However, they release him when the FBI says he is a US agent. [Globe and Mail, 11/22/01] Mohamed, a former US Army sergeant, then will continue to work for al-Qaeda for a number of years. He trains bin Laden’s personal bodyguards and trains a terrorist cell in Kenya that later blows up the US embassy there. Meanwhile, at least between 1993 and 1997 he tells secrets to the FBI about al-Qaeda’s operations. He is arrested in late 1998 and subsequently convicted of his role in the 1998 US embassy bombing in Kenya. [CNN, 10/30/98, Independent, 11/1/98] Says a former Egyptian intelligence officer: “For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan. It’s impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn’t caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile.” [Wall Street Journal, 11/26/01]
1995: For the first time, though not the last, the government of Sudan offers the US all of its files on bin Laden and al-Qaeda. The US turns down the offer. Bin Laden had been living in Sudan since 1991, because there were no visa requirements to live there. Sudan was surveilling him, collecting a “vast intelligence database on Osama bin Laden and more than 200 leading members of his al-Qaeda terrorist network… [The US was] offered thick files, with photographs and detailed biographies of many of his principal cadres, and vital information about al-Qaeda’s financial interests in many parts of the globe.” [Guardian, 9/30/01]
1996 (A): FBI investigators are prevented from carrying out an investigation into two relatives of bin Laden. The FBI wanted to learn more about Abdullah bin Laden, “because of his relationship with the World Assembly of Muslim Youth [WAMY] – a suspected terrorist organization.” Abdullah was the US director of WAMY and lived with his brother Omar in Falls Church, Virginia, a town just outside Washington. WAMY has its offices at 5613 Leesburg Pike. Remarkably, it is later determined that four of the 9/11 hijackers lived at 5913 Leesburg Pike at the same time the two bin Laden brothers were there. A high-placed intelligence official tells the Guardian: “there were always constraints on investigating the Saudis. There were particular investigations that were effectively killed.” An unnamed US source says to the BBC, “There is a hidden agenda at the very highest levels of our government.” [BBC Newsnight, 11/6/01, Guardian, 11/7/01]
1996-2000: The CIA officer in charge of running operations against Al Qaeda from Washington writes, “I speak with firsthand experience (and for several score of CIA officers) when I state categorically that during this time senior White House officials repeatedly refused to act on sound intelligence that provided multiple chances to eliminate Osama bin Laden.” [Los Angeles Times, 12/5/04] In late 1998, President Clinton signs a directive authorizing the CIA to plan an assassination of bin Laden. The CIA draws up detailed profiles of bin Laden’s daily routines, where he sleeps, and his travel arrangements. The assassination never happens, supposedly because of inadequate intelligence. An officer who helped draw up the plans says, “We were ready to move” but “we were not allowed to do it because of this stubborn policy of risk avoidance… It is a disgrace.” [Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/16/01] From 1998 to 2000, the US permanently stations two submarines in the Indian Ocean to hit al-Qaeda with cruise missiles on short notice. Six to ten hours advance warning is needed to review the decision, program the cruise missiles and have them reach their target. On at least three occasions, spies in Afghanistan report bin Laden’s location with information suggesting he would remain there for some time. Each time, Clinton approves the strike. Each time, CIA Director Tenet says the information is not reliable enough, and the attack cannot go forward. [New York Times, 12/30/01]

Not true- I heard Ron Paul say many times that he would use covert action to route out the alkida which only was a few hundred at the time. Instead we go into Iraq Afganistan- Who ever wrote this doesn’t even care to know who Ron Paul really is- HE MOST CERTAINLY would have gone after Bin Laden

What if the forces of the Communist Party of China crossed our borders and did a raid in the middle of New York City? I seriously doubt someone acting in the interests of America, as Ron Paul repeatedly and courageously does, would have let Bin Laden slip away.

I think Ron Paul makes some solid points. Most people assume it wouldn’t have worked if Pakistan were involved and he gave examples of when it did before with other high profile terrorists.
And as for the comments about a libertarian during WWII, understanding what lead to WWII will help to reduce your concerns but more importantly the constitution which allows us to defend ourselves should do that. Ron Paul, if president during WWII would have entered into war after an attack at Pearl Harbor just like history already recorded.

You can too compare Pakistan to London. In fact you can compare Pakistan to any country you want to and you will find some easier and some harder to work with. The bottom line here is that we had the opportunity to capture Bin Laden but we elected to shoot him instead. Why? Now he is martyr rather than sitting rotting in a jail cell. Good job Obama. Thanks for escalating a marginalized sickly old clown to a martyr that muslim extremists can rally around for next ten years while we spend ourselves into bankruptcy fighting a futile “war” on terror against these boogie men. Ron Paul is absolutely right. If you will all just start thinking for yourselves rather than parroting the latest group think jibber jabber coming from the MSM you too will see the world more clearly. WE have a constitution and we need to follow it. This is not an option. If you want liberty there is only one man who you can trust to be your next president and it is Ron Paul.

Remember the ’07 – ’08 campaign …
Remember what they did, remember who did it.
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This time a whole citizen army of every stripe stands behind Dr Ron.

No, Mr. Paul was for getting OBL after 9/11. He was for doing it in 2001 when the US had OBL cornered.
Mr. Paul is not for the extra decade it took, no trial that occurred, violation of sovereign borders that occurred, etc.
Imagine being able to try OBL in a court of law as they did Sadam?
Look at Mr. Paul’s record and you will see he supported going after OBL but not the war in Iraq.
Thank You
Ron Paul 2012

Hey, smart people, listen to what Paul is actually saying and has said. Basically that such things need to happen in the right place, right time.

If everyone would have listened to Ron Paul before, Osama would have been dead for 5+ years already.