John Quincy Adams a Founding Father? Michele Bachmann Says Yes

John Quincy Adams a founding father??? Not likely. He was born in 1767. The constitution was signed in 1787. I don’t think there were any 20 year olds in the Continental Congress.

I just wish George would vett half the idiot things coming out of Obama’s mouth… but they never even bothered to vett him at all in 2008!! —- And YES… the “Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery” is TRUE!!! —- They anguished over parts of the document to make sure it did not support slavery! — The 3/5ths rule was designed to make sure the south didn’t get over-represented in congress, with the idea of abolishing slavery later… the “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” clause used to say “and property”, but they removed that to protect against future wramgling over the slave issue!! — George isn’t as smart as he is boorish!!!

My God this woman is stupid. How can ANYONE take her seriously about a run for President? Everytime she opens her mouth the rest of the world laughs at us. What an embarassment she is.

Response to Leo…
The difference between a gaffe by President Obama and one from Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin is that NO ONE believes that President Obama thinks there are 57 states. NO ONE. He just misspoke. BUT everyone believes Sarah Palin thinks that Paul Revere warned the British (she even defended it on FOX the next day) and that Michele Bachmann believes… well, who knows what that Fruit Loop believes. Maybe that cave men rode dinosaurs to work. See the difference though here?

Oh please . . . she can’t compete with Obama and the idiocy that has flowed from his mouth over the past 2+ years. This left wing electronic rag is starting its conservative trash talk early.

Does not make a difference. This country is on the wrong course under the democrats.

In regard to the subject of doing away with the minimum wage……how on earth does that help anyone? People making minimum wage now have a hard time making ends meet. Oh wait, I see…….the rich still get rich and the poor get poorer yet again. Only in America!

Thomas Jefferson had slaves and wanted to abolish slavery. At least that’s what the PBS special said. How are we to know exactly what our founding fathers thought and felt at every stage of their lives?? Also, how is it relevant to our life today? She didn’t answer the question well, but I’d vote for her ANY DAY over Obama. Obama has had some major mistakes and where are you on that Georgy boy?? Sorry, I forgot, your bosses have brain washed to love Obama no matter what he does. Nice journalism….

Yeah, and I remember when Obama said in ’08 that he traveled to all “57″ states. Funny how the media remained silent on that gaffe.

She is an absolute nut, and will not directly answer a question, BUT I give her four points because unlike the “other one,” she does not shy away from the mainstream press! Whether right or wrong Bachmann WILL appear on GoodMorning America, speak to credible reporters etc. rather than hide cowardly behind the shield of FOX

LOL! As usual, the Obama haters trot out the ’57 states’ gaffe as proof positive that Obama is, I don’t know, a Marxist or something. They have no CLUE about the difference between making a slight verbal gaffe after a long and tiring day (and correcting himself almost immediately, too), and the absolute and utter GARBAGE that Bachmann spills on a nearly daily basis. John Wayne from Waterloo? The ‘shot heard round the world’ in New Hampshire? Republicans don’t understand the difference between when someone misspeaks and when someone simply doesn’t know the truth…..

“Thomas Jefferson had slaves and wanted to abolish slavery. At least that’s what the PBS special said…”
LOL!!! THAT speaks for itself! …keep in mind that these were the same people that wanted to strip PBS of all funding. LOL!!!!
Television is helpful but nothing beats a good history book and research!!!

Mick you sound really smart, boy you are such a big boy and thank you for your corrections. ever thought about running for President as a democrat.

boy she got all the answers doesnt she. i’d rather live in botsawanna than have this woman as my president

Funny. I don’t recall a headline on the homepage that reads “String of Gaffs” in huge red lettering when Obama or Biden makes their usual gaff.

Yeah Patrick, any mistakes Obama makes ABC and all the dems just totally ignore his statements …he will go down in history along with Jimmy Cater as the worst pres we have ever had.

I remember seeing Bachmann on Chris Matthews’ show a few years ago and thought what a scary person. And now here she is even scarier now. It would be refreshing to see and hear a candidate tell the American people HOW they plan on getting jobs back, getting our economy back on track and not just sprouting the “When I’m elected.” It is a sad state of affairs in our country.

While this woman will never be President, Obama’s same old story about how the GOP want to kill the middle class is getting old. I rose to the middle class under Bush and many middle class families prospered even more, but the Obama followers would have you believe all the middle class did was drop. “”"”Obama Campaign Says a Bachmann Presidency Would ‘Erode the Path to Prosperity for Middle Class Families’ “”"” What a weak argument and I hope people see through it.

I bet that if you gave Obama a ten question test on 18th century American History he couldn’t get half the questions correct.

Nope, sorry my kids are not critical but even they knew she made a very factual error about JQ Adams and she will not admit an error. [that was what they were laughing at] If she had laughed it off and said something like “i meant his father of course, sorry” then it is over. The fact is she is wrong far more than she is right. She did NOT raise 23 foster children [implying they lived with her for extended periods]. She DID get money from the farm that gets subsidies she says is her inlaws – up to $105,000 according to her financials. Obamacare will NOT wipe out 800,000 jobs per CBO – the report says that seniors will voluntarily leave jobs they currently have solely because they need health care because the need is met under Affordable Healthcare Act. Breast pumps are not a Tax credit, but an expense added to other Medical expenses on the Schedule A; the total of which are reduced by 7.5% of adjusted growth income. Just a few of her “gaffes”. She is just plain wrong!

Regarding the minimum wage…a few years ago on a major American Indian reservation, the tribal council proposed elimination of the minimum wage in order to entice the location of an electronics contract manufacturing site. The council believed that the location of such an operation would help improve the health and well being of its membership, help restore pride to a community where 85% of the people are unemployed and provide valuable training of high tech manufacturing skills that would allow reservation workers to hopefully migrate to similar work in nearby major metro areas. The plan was presented to a member of Congress who also happened to be a native American. He was non committal but saw the value of such a program. His thought was that since the majority of reservation residents were already on welfare, an adjustment could be made whereby the wages would augment, or add to the welfare received. However, before he would commit to sponsor legislation, he wanted the Department of Labor and the Clinton administration to give pre approval. The Department of Labor rejected the idea. Privately, it was said that unions would loudly protest the deal. The Clinton administration would not bake the deal allegedly for the same reason. The congressman backed down and the council was left with a reservation with only 10% of its residents employed. For all practical purposes, the administration at that time told these native Americans that it was less important that they work and learn than it was to placate unions. Now more than 15 years later, the unemployment on the reservation is at 90% and the welfare bill continues to increase. The problem that we have with our central government is that its members generally have no common sense. Many believe it is more important that the government expand its programs to support people who do not/can not work than it is to design and implement programs to create work and reinforce human dignity. But the problem with that dignity thing and the needs of politicians is that a person with dignity and self respect is that they start to think independently of party instructions. When that happens, the hand-out no longer has the same value and politicians begin to lose their base. The vast majority of social programs sponsored by our central government are to keep people in a position of need so that the central government’s primary purpose can become one of satisfying those needs in the hopes that the satisfied individual will remain a loyal voter. What we need are people who understand that man needs to work and that our real problem is jobs.

Noticed ABC has yet another negative story on Bachmann yet no stories on Obama’s gaffe’s, Biden gaffes, Pelosi’s mind numbing gaffe’s, or other republican gaffe’s from that side of the aisle. Much like Sarah Palin, the liberal agenda of ABC and other news outlets are to attack, attack and attack until a narrative is established and is believed by their blind followers. The R’s and the D’s have plenty of issues and the press should focus on all of these, not just a free pass for the Dems but full speed ahead on the Republicans. Also, George needs a history lesson as well, not saying Bachmann is that knowledgeable on this either but: The original drafts of the Declaration of Independence condemmed slave trade but later removed. In fact at the Constitutional Convention (1787), it was hotly dabated as violating their core revolutionary ideas but abandoned any attempts to limit or abolish slave trade in favor of unity of the new United States (Southern Opposition). Even the Articles of Confederation had limitations on slavery, especially in expansion of slave territories. George, read up on history!

That’s my point MYTAKEONTHIS61!!! How are we to know our founding fathers thoughts on slavery!?!? Unless they specifically said “I want to abolish slavery!”. Just because we don’t have any writings from them saying that they want too doesn’t mean they didn’t. But, the greater point is WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need jobs to be created today and bickering about a history lesson isn’t going to do it. Obama is a horrible President and needs to go.

Did anybody else notice that with every question George asked that only required a simple yes or no answer she launched into a soliloquy that would have made Shakespear proud??? She keeps getting her words thrown back at her and in true politician form she dances all around the issue without ACTUALLY answering the question. I wouldn’t vote for her if she were the only choice on the ballot.

We need to look at Bachmann’s birth certificat and see if she was born in this country and then see if she passed American History in school. It certainly doesn’t appear that she paid attention in class.

Little George still seeking significance as a “smart” journalist/pundit, yet is just another liberal hack out to embarrass a Republican presidential candidate.

It’s to late to vet Obama! we just don’t need another lying hypocrite in the Oval office as Bachmann is!

She was educated at Regent University Law School. It is a Christian law school that will accept anyone and graduate anyone, if they are willing to part with tens of thousands of dollars.
This argument that she’s educated and she’s a lawyer, she just brainfarts every once in a while is giving her too much credit. She isn’t educated and she isn’t smart and I damn sure wouldn’t let her represent me.
It’s funny that the Obama haters keep talking about the 57 states gaffe and why it wasn’t covered, well it was, and maybe that’s why we all know it and he even addressed it. Bachmann can’t even admit her mistakes, and that’s dangerous Bush-like behavior.
But no fear, she won’t win the election. She’ll alienate the intelligent non religious wingnut republicans and get the entire democratic base to the polls. She has 0 chance of being elected President.

She also dogged the question regarding her taking Farm subsidies! She kept reverting back to Obama’s limousine’s which barely scratch the surface of the cost of Farm subsidies.

I think the people posting here need to read a book called _Deliver Us From Evil_ by Lacy K. Ford and grab a bit of history concerning the framers opinions on slavery.I believe you will come away with a different opinion of J. Q. Adams and question of slavery from the Revolution to 1840. There was no way at all that a Constitution would have been passed if slavery was dealt with. South Carolina and Georgia were not going to allow it period. So these are your framers. Additionally, J. Q. Adams was quite aware that freed slaves mixing in with the slave population was frightening for the South so this is why colonization was heavily promoted by Adams and later Henry Clay. Jefferson was not really a framer either for he was in France and John Adams was in England. History is quite difficult for those running for office for they all know so little.
Mike

Like most of the GOP, She really doesn’t care if what she says is true as long as it elicits an emotional response. She’s winging it and most of the time she’s unprepared. Her extreme policies make her unfit for governing this country. A president must realize that they govern a whole nation of people, many of them far different than her narrow-minded white, conservative christian supporters. The media is moderately interested in her because she’s a novelty. By 2012, people will be tired of her shrill Republican rhetoric…

As for Sadie asking do we know what our framers thought? Well, there are letter from Governor Madison and Thomas Jefferson concerning many aspects of slavery and slave revolts. They are easily accessed.
Mike

So George didn’t want to “get too deep into the “flake” flap”. That is all he talked about. What a liar.
What makes people think Obama is so smart? Is it the terrible “cash for clunkers” the 787 billion corporate welfare program, the war in Libya, or telling the Taliban our plans? Obama can read and give a speech but he is stupid. Those who follow him are morons. Follows of Obama remind me of followers of Hitler in the 30′s. They don’t have a clue of what they are saying. You believe and elect someone on “hope and change”? Where is the proof that Obama’s plans work? To dismiss someone over an issue of John Q Adams a founding father is being a moron. What does it matter when people are without a job, losing their home, going hungry, being killed in war or losing their freedom? And all George and the left care about is a few gaffes? Wake up people.

Pure hyperbole from a liberal journalist. Yes, our founding fathers did want to address slavery in our revolutionary documents but unfortunately chose the unity of the newly formed states but many founders continued their anti slavery movements. Too many writings to support this fact to deny it but they will try. George is not well schooled while the partisans on each side will attack one’s intelligence that don’t agree with them. The partisan rhetoric of teh blind followers is at an all time high with each side claiming the high ground while attacking their foes on the other side of the aisle. That’s the pot calling the kettle black; better known as hypocrisy.

J.Q. Adams once said that the President could use his war powers to abolish slavery. Decades later, a President did just that. Armistad. Enough said.

John Quincy Adams was born in 1767. He was an American diplomat, politician, opponent of slavery, and the fourth president of the United States. The United States Constitution was written in 1787, but it did not take effect until after it was ratified in 1789, when it replaced the Articles of Confederation. John Quincy Adams would have been 22 at that time. I’d like to know what constitutes a “Founding Father” in George’s mind? At Least Michelle didn’t say that Adam’s spoke Austrian.

Oh and another thing – did I read the transcript right? Did she really say that she wanted to “Take back the country” “From the people”? That’s a dictator, right? Or someone who can’t think before she opens her mouth.

At least she didn’t say “corpse” instead of “corps” like Obama did. Shall we continue with the Obama gaffes or do we move on to the Biden gaffes which their are entire websites dedicated to his stupid crap?

ABC is biased on Obama’s side. Look at Stephanopoulos’ questions: every one is accusatory against Bachmann. Stephanopoulos has the title of “chief political correspondent”? His title would be “chief liberal hatchet man”. Remember that Stephanopoulos was part of Bill Clinton’s cabinet, so ABC is inherently biased here. ABC is not a credible network for news. The 3 networks are going to try to get Obama re-elected, but this time he has a horrible record; Obama has failed as president.

George did you spend as much time and energy when Obama last week was a complete embarassment to the country and to the family of a slain soldier Jared Monti when he got his name wrong at the medal of honor ceremony? Or his special olympics gagge? Please your bias is an embarassment to all of us.

“The “Palinization” of Michelle Bachmann has begun….”
????
I LOVE IT!!!!
I tell ya… I’m not a fan of Sarah Palin but I do believe that she DESERVES every single penny she earns!!!!

OMG. Had the press paid 1% of this attention to the credibility of the statements and background information of Barack Obama in 2008, America would not be suffering the economic crisis that we are in today. Because Obama would never have been elected.
If the press would pay 1% of this amount of unyielding focus on the unkept campaign promises, the outright lies, the distortions and the misinformation that pours out of the Obama Administration on a daily basis, Mr. Obama would have been impeached by now.

“…Yes, our founding fathers did want to address slavery in our revolutionary documents but unfortunately chose the unity of the newly formed states but many founders continued their anti slavery movements. Too many writings to support this fact to deny it…”
Really????
Please reference at minimum 10 sources (preferably 20) that support your conclusion.

Yet, our Harvard educated president can’t even get how many states we have correct.

Here is a post from Patrick well worth repeating!
“”One trillion stimulus – FAILURE… Auto companies paying back the government… UNTRUE… Obama saying Recovery Summer in ’10 – BOGUS… Cash for clunkers – AGAIN, FAILURE… “You can keep your healthcare provider” – LIE… Promise to close Gitmo – ANOTHER LIE… Going to war in Libya w/o Congressional approval – CRIMINAL… Sticking it to the taxpayer and rewarding union cronies – TRUE…”"
WELL SAID PATRICK! BRAVO!

Mr. Obama’s outrageous gaffe this past Thursday regarding the Medal of Honor is so much more serious than this discussion, I cannot fathom Mr. Stephanopoulos’ fascination (obsession?) with making the distinction about Mr. Adams’ inclusion in the “founding fathers” category, (after all, Mr. Adams’ was certainly a valuable contribution to the establishment of our country).
These were not two random soldiers about whom Obama had no knowledge.
Obama had actually hung the medal around Staff Sergeant Giunta’s neck. He had had him sit next to Michelle Obama at the State of the Union Address, and he had handed the Medal of Honor to Sergeant First Class Monti’s Mother and Father, in person, at the White House.
There have only been 3 Medal of Honor’s awarded during Mr. Obama’s presidency and two have been from his own hand. Also, Sergeant Monti was a member of the 10th not SSGT Giunta who was and is Airborne.
This isn’t about history, geography, spelling or pronunciation. This is about honor, respect and decency.
You tell me how you forget the man to whom you handed the Medal of Honor. You tell me how you forget the parents of the dead son who took the salute in his stead.
I yearn for the long ago days of responsible journalism.

Mytakeonthis, you can do any search you want, I chose to use peer reviewed searches in my college online libraries like proquest, ebscohost, ERIC among others. Too many writings from our founding fathers that support this… Do some non-partisan searches or heck even partisan searches, it is too obvious to ignore. If you just need an encyclopedia, look up britannica or the like, it is so easy to do. Don’t need ten or twenty, look at Smithsonian documents as well. History is their for the reading of those that want to receive it. You would think that either Bachmann or George would have been better read on the subject.

Searambler-How many gaffes does the president get to make before someone calls him on it? How about his gaffe to the 10th Mountain division when he said he personally presented the Medal Of Honor to on of their menbers. Also that he was the FIRST living recipient since the Vietnam war? Wouldn’t you think the C-I-C would know this? Obviously he didn’t have his teleprompter to read, and had to rely on his knowledge. Its not as though there have been that many MOH winners in the last few years. He is a complete buffoon, and the whole world knows it. Too bad the U.S hasn’t seen it yet.

Bachmann wants to take the country back… from the people?? that makes her a tyrant.
virtually every. single. world. that comes out of her mouth is another pearl of stupidity and ignorance.

Bachmann announced her flakey candidacy only yesterday which has excited the like-minded nuts. Her ignorance will become more and more exposed over the weeks and months that lay ahead until she becomes a distant memory.

Here we go. The attempt to isolate and destroy another Republican candidate by the Democrat-loving media. And the salivating, Pavlov response by the Democrat faithful to lap it up. When are you people who buy this crap going to get a clue that your are being manipulated. George Stephanopolis and the media and the democrats are not only flakes, the very accusations they put forth about Bachman others are lies and fact challenged that are eagerly ate up and repeated by the people who accept this bunk. No one tells more lies, gets their history more wrong, more often, or positions things more incorrectly more consistently than the slimes in the media. I’m so tired of your sanctimonious, self-righteous condescention and attempts to destroy others to support your loathsome candidates.

I can’t believe her comments on the minimum wage! Sure corporate America could hire lots of people at $5.00 an hour. The Repulicans could then point to a reduction in unemployment as “a victory”. Would this candidate like to raise her family on $200 a week? Maybe she should suggest that ALL politicians be paid the mimimum wage of the state that he or she represents?

The rise of the knownothings who are proud of ignorance is really a scary thought for America and the world. It is like the pope and Galileo again. Oh! Conservatives the enemies of knowledge and enlightenment. They don’t know it but their enemy is not liberalism, it is time, knowledge and evolution. The funniest people around. Little knowledge is dangerous.

Ann Marie – HUH??? I have no idea what you you are referencing of mine. I do not believe I am telling everyone what to think. Just pointing out a few of her out and out errors and that she does not admit mistakes.

John Quincy Adams was 9 years old when the Declaration of Independence was signed. Founding Father? More like a Founding Son.

Freedom; To which sentence are you referring? If you’ll clarify your remarks, I may find it necessary to correct mine. Perhaps you didn’t read my entire post…

I just don’t understand how George doesn’t yell ” JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION”.
If you mess up and miss speak, just come clean and say so. And we could all “build a bridge and get over it”, instead of trying to defend a stupid comment.

‘Freedom’ copied and pasted this: The Revolution was a turning point in the national attitude against slavery—and it was the Founders who contributed greatly to that change. In fact, one of the reasons given by Thomas Jefferson for the separation from Great Britain was a desire to rid America of the evil of slavery imposed on them by the British.
Hmmm, then why did the US Constitution, our founding legal document, count slaves as 3/5 of a person, NOT abolish slavery, and NOT give Blacks any rights? And why was slavery flourishing until the Civil War, some 80+ YEARS after the Revolutionary War? If the Founding Fathers were so anti-slavery, then why in the hell didn’t they DO anything about it when they had a golden opportunity to do so? Sorry, I don’t buy your attempt at revisionist history………

She wants to take the country back from “people across the nation”? Huh?

George, I think you did an excellent job asking her about the things she thought to be true. She danced around the answer, knowing full well she screwed up. This was the best interview about this candidate yet. She has no idea what she is talking about and makes herself look foolish each time. The only thing about her comment about the founding fathers is, they did not try to abolish slavery, but the indentured servitude empossed on those that owe money to pay off debts. She got lost along the path to her understanding. Thank you George for showing the world that this woman is NOT a good candidate, nor is she ready to take on such a draining task as a figure head for our country. It amazes me how little about American history and the true statutes set forth by our humble beginnings our own government officials really know. And if I hear her state something about her short time living in IOWA one more time, I think I’ll scream.

‘Freedom’ copied and pasted this: The Revolution was a turning point in the national attitude against slavery—and it was the Founders who contributed greatly to that change. In fact, one of the reasons given by Thomas Jefferson for the separation from Great Britain was a desire to rid America of the evil of slavery imposed on them by the British.
Jefferson owned hundreds of slaves, they supported his wealthy landowner status. He felt they were an inferior race that needed to be looked after. He also illegitimately fathered several children with some of his slaves, children he never acknowledged. The institution of slavery was very, very good for Jefferson…..

My complaint is not that this woman is a walking joke generator, and yes, Joe Biden is one too, its the fact that rather than say she was rambling and got her facts wrong, she challenges the validity of her stupid comments by trying to justify them as truth. Its the same with almost everyone on the right, even McCain who last week said Illegal Immigrants started the Arizona forest fires on camera, and then went back and challenged that he didn’t say it even though they presented him with what he just said. I would love ALL politicians to break from this culture of denial and just admit when they are wrong. You know what a thoughtful, measured person does over time? They change their opinions based on fact that come to light and they admit their faults as they occur.

Buddha12: “How many gaffes does the president get to make before someone calls him on it?”
He HAS been called on his gaffes. Every one has been covered in the mainstream media.
One big difference however is that he doesn’t deny ever having said what he said or attempt to cover himself by re-writing history (i.e. “Well, actually, the word “corps” was originally pronounced “corpse”..I was simply using the traditional pronunciation” ;)
Palin and Bachman have both tried, lamely, to worm out of taking responsibility for their mistakes and accused the “media” (which they both court shamelessly) of distortion and persecution.
That is NOT a desirable leadership quality…note that to this day, Bush claims he can’t think of a single mistake he ever made. Uh huh.
I’d prefer a leader who sometimes makes a mistake (as we ALL do) and owns up to it, laughs about it and moves on to one who lies and equivocates to avoid accountability.

Everyone needs to catch up on their history knowledge. The founding fathers did work to abolish slavery – the only reason it didn’t happen early on was for political reasons with some – not all. Quit drinking the Kool Aid and study for yourselves.

AlChemist | Jun 28, 2011 11:07:40 AM
….”BACHMANN is also a FARM WELFARE QUEEN, applying for and receiving hundreds of thousands of your tax $$$$ in farm subsidies. ” Liar. Neither she nor her husband own a farm. Where doo you get you information, liar?

Sorry, but the quality of the responses Michele provided just don’t ring of knowledge. At best, she appears to view history through the voice of a third party. That’s why she never seems to be able to discuss her position with any detail. She may be a nice person, but she doesn’t present herself as intellectual or well reasoned.

The interview was a disgrace and far more revealing of Mr. Stephanopoulos than Ms. Bachman. From the snide interjection of “flake” to the irrelevant argument over the founding father nothing, nothing of substance was covered. No opportunity was given to the candidate to explain her positon on any issue of import and no question was asked on any issue of import. Nothing about foreign policy, nothing about Iran, nothing about nuclear proliferation, nothing about Hamas and wisdom of the 1967 borders position of the president, nothing about Boeing and the NLRB, nothing about the looming entitlement problem, nothing about unsustainable local and state government pensions,nothing about the recommendations of the President’s ignored debt commission, nothing about energy policy, offshore drilling, fracing for natural gas, canadian oil shale and pipelines, nothing about the release of oil from the strategic reserve, nothing about the rise in basic foodprices and the european debt crisis and nothing about the persistent unemployment rate and signs of a double dip. What a disgrace, what an irrelevance what a sorry journalistic and media class.

It is not a good sign when any candidate says something incorrect and then not admit what they said was inaccurate. Everyone misspeaks or says something falsed on faulty information. But when you are asked about it, admit the truth instead of blaming their error on the people that question them. It is funny that we have folklore about the honesty Washington and Lincoln, but current politians think distortion is acceptable.

Several things are perfectly clear with Palin and Bachmann. Both have a limited knowledge of American History, probably 8th grade level. And both a loathe to admit it once caught making a factual error. John Quincy Adams was a Founding Father’s SON. And by the way Michelle, the Revolutionary War started in Mass. not New Hampshire.

@Kathy….you are wrong. Judging the qualifications that each one of the presidential candidates brings to the table is EXACTLY what needs to be done. Are we just supposed to accept that every word out of their mouths is the truth? How on earth would you decide who to vote for? UGH!

SeaRambler wrote: “Sorry, I don’t buy your attempt at revisionist history………” It seems at times you don’t really want to know real history either, I’m with you I don’t like revisionist or progressive historians. However, it is far to obvious to the casual ovserver and teh naturally curious that yes our founding fathers struggled with the issue and many founding father’s and sons went onto do many things that led to the anti-slavery movements. They chose unity of the newly formed states over many moral objections and the stark contradictions within them. Too many writings from these founding fathers and sons to ignore; you just have to have an open mind and a passion to read the docs.

I’ve just spent hours diggin through this website trying to find all the candidate Obama interviews to notice the questions and the tone.
You would not believe what I’ve found. There were so many gaffs on the campaign trail and so many unknowns with Obama, yet we were graced with people like Diane Sawyer absolutely FAWNING over Obama with questions about his wife and kids.
Review the “interviews”, they are on the net for everyone to see just how they treated Obama with kid gloves and asked the most softball questions that have ever been asked in the history of politics.

This woman makes Palin look smart. And that is what is very very sad.

Justhefacts | Jun 28, 2011 9:56:43 AM
That would be a fun fact if it were true. Clinton added to the national debt EVERY single year in office.

Come on george obama is the worst gaffe speaker in the world.Mr, all 57 states but youre a liberal cant help it.Why are you libs so afraid of bachmann,because obama and biden are beatable in 2012 God help us if he wins.—————————————
Wow. People can repeatedly state ONE mispoken comment from Obama and that is somehow ‘the worst gaffe speaker in the world’…. Amazing how they forget Geo. Bush II, Dan Quayle and others…
Obama may occasionally misspeak – but generally that misspeak is corrected within short order.
With Bachman, it’s all about spinning the response with political doubletalk and misdirection so that somehow the mispoken comment (or the lie) is either never actually corrected or fabrications are created to give the impression that Bachman didn’t misspeak/lie.
So you really need to check the facts, not the rhetoric.

she is a joke. her and the GOP do nothing but lia. the white house was made by slaves.

“John Stossal was approached by Bretbart with the scoop on Weiners antics and ABC said no way. Just imagine how much news organizations like ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS don’t disclose to the public because the story’s don’t fit their liberal agenda.”
Hmmm… your observation is quite intriguing and your conclusion quite interesting. John Stossel has not been with ABCNews since 2009. He is a FOX man since that time. Could you explain a bit more regarding how you reached your final conclusion? Thank you.

There were so many important issues to discuss; you debased the conversation with your snarky founding fathers questions. You were almost as trivial and insulting as your colleague on Fox.

“”"”HAVE to babysit the greedy to make sure they don’t steal and rob their own people (Americans).”"”"
Posted by: Z
Actuqally, we were robbed by our government as they are the one’s that bailed out the banks. While I understand bailing out some banks, those that caused some of the most serious damage should not have been helped. The banks got bailed out and we still owe the same amount on a home that is worth 40% less. After the bailout, the banks should have been forced to refinance at the lowest market rate at that time. Nope, instead, they got all the money and they get all of ours!

Kathy:
First of all it’s “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Second of all, that’s advice you should keep in mind before posting things like, “Kay I bet you have taught your kids to be very critical of others.”

Although John Quincy Adams was not techmically a “founding father” of this country he was against slavery and, as a member of the House of Representatives, fought against it until the day he died. Before George crticizes any politician for “gaffes” he might want to read up on his American history.

The biased liberal media ought scare the hell out of everyone especially liberals.
What stories are they hiding?
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Yes, Obama said he visited 57 states.
Of course anyone that knows anything about politics knows there are 57 primaries and caucuses when Washington DC and the US territorial possessions are included. He was speaking about the primaries. It really was never as much of a gaffe for Obama as Republicans like to make it to be. What he said had some foundation in fact.
Many of the statements Bachmann has been saying have zero basis in fact. I could forgive her misstatement about Concord New Hampshire being the location of the shoot heard round the world. But some of her other statements are pretty bizarre.

I for one will be switching parties so I can vote for Bachman in the primaries. lol

My God this President is stupid. How can ANYONE take him seriously about a run for President? Everytime he opens his mouth the rest of the world laughs at us. What an embarassment he is.

bachman’s a dope, no doubt about it. but it’s still rather curious that some of the posters in this thread like to hammer away at others for not knowing what they’re talking about and how people should do some research to back up what they say, but these very same posters run for the shadows when someone points out to them with incontrovertible facts that they are, in fact, themselves spewing incorrect and unsubstantiated information.

OBAMAS 57 STATES TRUMPS THEM ALL! And now he is giving medals to dead soldiers that he claims are still alive!

Hahaha! Are you kidding me? This woman has less knowledge than a box of hair. I LOVE the anger coming from the right about her on this board. If you don’t like what George has to say, don’t read or watch it. How hard is that? Grow up already. She can’t even look into the right camera. See that blinking red light? That’s where you look. Can’t wait until she gets the nomination. Obama will just skip along to the finish line.

I think that these candidates should have to take a history test in order to run for the highest office. My 5th graders know more about American history than Bauchmann, Palin, and Cain combined. They are pathetic and embarrassing.

“Excuse me that was the Acorn debacle.
Stossel Admits He Could’ve Had Breitbart’s ACORN Scoop But Passed…”
Thanks for clarifying. One final note (and I’m truly not dismissing Stossel’s feelings regarding “politics” and/or giving editors an excuse) you do know that those ACORN tapes have since been proven to be highly manipulated and do not truthfully represent the “meaning” presented?
I tell ya… if Andrew Breitbart said “good morning” to me, I would have to go to a window and check for myself!

I’m sorry, but my cat is smarter than this woman! When asked who she was going to take the country “back from” her reply was “Well, from the people all across the nation.”. And as a big-money Republican I’m sure that’s exactly what she would do! In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny: What a moroon!

The knownothing tea party!

Come on ABC do you all really think we are stupid. Where are your stories about Obamas 57 States? How about Obama and his ties with militant activists?

To bad the big 3 networks won’t drill Obama with questions. Why don’t the liberal left media outlets investigate his background half as much as they investigate anyone who runs against him. And where are all his college friends? Schoolmates? Why aren’t they coming forward to say what a great guy he is. One and done…01-20-2013 End of an Error

ryan, you have no idea what you’re talking about regarding regent law school. i’m an attorney in virginia, and although i didn’t attend regent, i practice with and against numerous graduates of the school and they are all, by and large, very capable attorneys. moreover, as an ABA accredited law school, there are minimum standards for entry that must be maintained in order to maintain that accreditation. one of the biggest lies about practicing law is that where you went to law school has anything to do with your abilities as an attorney. you may not like regent because it’s a conservative school with a christian bent, but the legal education the people who go to school there study the same law that all the rest of us study. you should try to keep your political and religious bigotry from leading you to such erroneous conclusions.

Thomas Jefferson had slaves and wanted to abolish slavery—–no he didn’t. When he died he passed on his slaves to his sister and relatives in his will. His own children from Sally Hemnmings were his slaves!!!! He owned his own children, and he even ‘gave’ Sally to his sister after his death, not even freeing the mother of his children!!! His sister, thank goodness, had a heart and freed Hemmings upon her inheriting her. But I dont know what you thought you watched, but Jefferson lived his life overspent, in debt, constantly, and one thing there is plenty of evidence about is about how profitable it was to own and breed slaves, sell off their children in just 15 short years, and make a mint and he did!!! Of all the founders, he is the hardest one to like, personally, as a man. You should do some reading of their personal papers. Get to know these men before you deificate them.

She is, to quote Michelle Goldberg, “a perfect product of the Religious Right.” Her religious credentials are impeccable, which she will use to her advantage over a (relatively) much more secular field of candidates. To a lot of her supporters, how “factual” she is doesn’t matter nearly as much as this. Democracy Now! had a great segment on her presidential bid today, they talk about the extent of her religious convictions and their influence on every aspect of her life, here’s a link:

Was it not the compromises of federalism and slavery in the Constitution wherein the “founding fathers” delt with this, which with this view would support the thought that the “found fathers” looked toward ending slavery?
The oppression of African-Americans was never compatible with the civil society, although some northern state delegates recognized this fact and sought to abolish slavery at the Constitutional Convention. The southern states would not unite behind such as constitution. It is all the more remarkable, therefore, that certain compromises were reached with the Southern state delegates respecting slavery. The constitution they adopted empowered Congress to prohibit the importation of slaves to the United States in twenty years’ time, which it did. It reduced the influence the southern states would have in the House of Representatives by counting slaves as three-fifths persons for the purpose of apportioning seats. Unfortunately, the southern states did succeed in inserting language requiring the return of slaves who escaped to other states. However, the Constitution did not, as some contend, compel the practice of slavery.

This is getting ridiculous. The MSM is not deliberately trying to bait her into saying something stupid. Maybe Bachmann isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, but the media’s behavior towards her is indefensible.

Grade5teacher, The founding fathers were full of moral contradictions that they struggled with. Many of the founding fathers tabled the slavery debate in favor of unity among the states but went on to lead many anti-slavery movements. She may have been off on correctly attributing it but certainly not wrong on the founding fathers wanting to address slavery in founding documents. Research on the topic from peer reveiwed articles and books would go a long way in enlightenment.

Do you honestly think the “57 state” thing was Obama’s only verbal gaffe, searambler? He’s no Joe Biden, but his list is certainly longer than Bachmann’s.
I am also relatively sure she knows how to pronounce “corpsman”.

She’s a topic dodger. If she can’t answer the questions and just keep dodging them and changing the subject, then she definitely is not fit to be Prez. I will not ever vote for a person who does not answer the questions.

What does ABC and the democrats care about the founding fathers anyway?
They want to rip up the constitution anyways, Obama uses it for Bo’s droppings in the basement of the WH…

ragmopp, american history is NOT part of a law school curriculum. the only american history one studies in law school is that which is associated with particular cases, like the rise of the corporation and monopolies vis a vis the gibbons v. ogden case. in other words, the only history one studies is at a minimum for the limited purpose that a law student understand the historical context within which a case was decided…as in new deal agricultural policies and how they were implicated in the wickard v. fillburn wheat case. other than that, one could graduate from law school without even knowing who george washington was.

swl2010………Linda: John Adams was John QUINCY Adams’ FATHER.John QUINCY Adams was born in 1825 and was NOT a Founder…………..Uhhhh no….. JQA was president from 1825-1829….He was born in 1767.

Why couldn’t Michelle give a straight answer to the questions?
For example, the question was “In your announcement you said ‘my voice is part of a movement to take back our country.’ From whom? ”
Answer: “Well, from the people all across the nation”
Take it back from the people?

George,
Would you EVER interview Obama in that manner? You are a hack. Our country is going down the tubes and you think this is important? Any story’s about oblunder naming the wrong Medal of Honor winner?

Somebody get Michelle some help, please–a class, a counselor, an advisor, her mom, her dad. I’m sorry-impressive as her personal appearance is, i.e., her giddy optimism, her mental prowess is profoundly lacking and, I’m embarassed for her. I’m just not sure where these GOP people are coming from. Are they all mentally deficient?

So tired of abc’s “gotta questions”!!!! You would never do that to obama, pelosi, reid!!!!
Don’t you know how to interview a candidate? Stick to the important issues George!!!
That’s what we’re interested in!
Gas prices, jobs, national security, our rising debt.

She’s as dumb as Sarah Palin

Walter Williams, Professor of Economics, believes that the minimum wage has increased unemployment for blacks. Educate yourself George. Walter Williams is an African American.
As for “Taking the Country Back,” that was a Howard Dean talking point. I believe he even wrote a book about taking back the country. Funny, how Dean got a pass and now it is “toxic.”
The press is in full Obama campaign mode.

Why couldn’t Michelle give a straight answer to the questions?
For example, the question was “In your announcement you said ‘my voice is part of a movement to take back our country.’ From whom? ” Answer: “Well, from the people all across the nation” Take it back from the people?

I fear for our future…I once thought,”no one is stupid enough to vote for Richard Nixon,” then I worried that, “surely voters can see through that has-been B-actor and failed governor Ronald Reagan,” then I thought,”a sitting vice-president with linkage to staging revolutions and propping-up vicious dictators will never be elected,” and was, “incredulous that anyone would take that cocaine snorting, former alcoholic idiot from Texas seriously!”
So when I think that Bachman and especially Palin are too stupid and flawed as candidates to succeed, I reconsider our voter history and fear for our future.

Next week George will have Obama on. He will ask him what color his under ware is. Then he will tell Obama how great he is and how well the economy is doing. The media in the USA has learned much from NAZI Germany.

Posted by: Brenda | Jun 28, 2011 12:31:40 PM…………………Slavery actually started in the mid 1600s in MA and it was a black man owning a white man.

Another successful trip visiting us here in NH by Congresswoman Bachmann! Of course, all of you know that Lexington NH is where the shot heard around the world was fired, don’t you? Or that Founding Father 10 year old John Quincy Adams was single handedly abolishing slavery while our country was being formed. I think it’s great that these presidential candidates are offering us their views on American history and clarifying some of these events for us that apparently were muddied in our history books over the years.

I know that John Quincy Adams was the son of one of the founding fathers – John Adams – but that’s because I’m a history nut. I’ve read a biography about John Adams, as a matter of fact. But many of the founding fathers WERE strongly against slavery, including John Adams and his wife. Even Jefferson, a big slave holder, didn’t approve of what he himself practiced. The founders didn’t end slavery, but it had been a point of contention since it first began.
Michele Bachmann doesn’t have time to be a history nut, she’s got too many more important things going.
Where were all these questions when Obama was running? Obama who doesn’t speak Austrian, who gives speeches before corPsmen, and is the president of 57 states. Had he received half the quizzing as Republicans do, who knows what he might have said?

“Listen up!!! All GOP candidates must be labeled as “stupid” – it seems to work! Also, all GOP candidates must be labeled as “extreme” – that works really well too. And don’t forget, ALL GOP candidates are racists – except “Uncle Toms” like Herman Cain…”
Is there a smidgeon of why this is so? Maybe… because… its true?

Hey ABC, I thought I’d do a little reporting for you…
While you ask Barry “whats your favorite color”.
Former Georgia Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney blasted President Barack Obama on Saturday at an ANSWER coalition meeting in Washington, D.C. for engaging the United States in a war against Libya. After returning from Libya with a group of U.S. journalists, Ms. McKinney launched a U.S. speaking tour to talk about her trip.
“I took a rash step because I was so outraged that our president would launch yet another illegal, unconstitutional, immoral, war and so I also knew that my government was lying,” she said to a group of 60 -70 anti-war Left attendees sitting in a Columbia Heights meeting room.

I cannot get over how many of you are saying “she’s a smart woman” and the like. What planet are you on?????? Whatever you all are smoking, please share!!!

Was JQ Adams a Founding Father?
Is ABC a real news organization?
This is the kind of crap they focus on , no matter no one is watching.

Obama statements ignored by Stephanopoulos:
“My fellow americans in all 57 States” (and if you saw this he thought about it before saying it).
“My Muslin faith” (then quickly corrected for him by Stephanopoulos)
“Time has changed for come”
“From the FBI’s 100 days”
“Bring greater inefficiencies to our health care”
“Countries like Europe”
“Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s”
This could continue. My point is that not like Limbaugh/Hannity who tell you their ideology going in, Stephanopoulos cloakes his as a news reporter of ABC News sucking in the dim bulbs of the Left.

The far right rewrites history to suit whatever point they’re trying to make at any given time.
Apparently accuracy is elitist.

Bachmann had the wrong Adams. John Adams was a foe of slavery. Many of the founding fathers actually did try to abolish slavery, according to this left-wing source:

Gosh… I wish George would vett some of Obama’s lies….. somehow he gets away with it!! —- He said “No new taxes for those earning less than $250k” (LIE!!)… when he said “Our healthcare reform bill will reduce the deficit” (LIE!!)… when he said “3 million Jobs Created or Saved” (LIE!!!)… “if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it” (LIE!!!)… “I will close Guantanamo Bay” (LIE!!!)… “we will be out of Iraq within 16 months” (LIE!!)… “we will be the party of transparency” (LIE!!!)… “No more lobbyists” (LIE!!!)… do you wonder why we label the mainstream media as “in the tank” for Obama and the progressives?!?!?!?

So now George and the liberals are going to attack Bachmans children!!!They can not run with Obama’s record so they will use any underhanded way to try to intimidate any consevative. Heard about it through the grapevine so had to check it out myself. The liberals are horrible people!!!

And if we’re talking about gaffes, George Stephanopoulos didnt’ seem to mind when President Obama goofed whether or not he’d given the medal of honor to a live or deceased soldier. Details below. Now I’m not saying Obama is dumb (he’s a sharp fellow though a lefty), but Bachmann is a pretty sharp lady, too.

“Wow the censors allow disparaging comments about conservatives, but not even the hint to a lib…”
LOL!!! …and this surprises you, “WHY?” You and your ilk are constantly and consistantly complaining that ABCNews is the “All Barack Channel;” the lamestream media; liberal press etc. So, why on earth should such a practice (your perception) be of any surprise here? I tell ya… the cognitive thinking of you and your people…

If the media got onto the business of the Obama girls like they do republican womens’ kids the left would be beside themselves. How disgusting of Stephanopoulis to even suggest Bachman’s foster kids will be subject to scrutiny. These slimey so-called journalists get lower every time they open their mouths.

Bachmann comes in second on this foolishness. Did you see the ABC banner across their home page? One of the “Must Reads” is “Backman: John Wayne Gacy” and links to the Bachmann/JQA story. Spelling Bachmann wrong is easy–confusing John Quincy Adams with John Wayne Gacy the serial killer, is kind of unforgivable.

Does she EVER answer a question directly? She’s almost as incoherent as Palin.

The dream Republican ticket for Democrats:
Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann.
Their campaign slogan:
The Mormon and the Moron!

“Does she EVER answer a question directly? She’s almost as incoherent as Palin.”
I disagree with that. Bachman (IMHO) is quite aware of what she does. Unlike Palin who simply does not know anything and will try to come up with something to hide her ignorance, Bachman is much more soundbyte (for lack of better wording) aggressive. In my opinion, she takes the approach that if it is repeated often enough, the content will resonate;
-What is you name?
“President Obama is a one term President.
-How do you feel about RomneyCare?
I have said that I am against ObamaCare and would repeal it and that’s why this President is a one term President.
-Isn’t it a beautiful day today?
Ya know George, there will be a day here and day there but overall the days are bleak and that’s why I’m running to insure that this President is a one term president.
on and on…

Typical of the GOP trend to re-write historical facts to fit their gaffes, despite the fact that those of us who actually paid attention in grade school history class know better. Palin also did it with her “Paul Revere” mistake, and rather than admit it, produces so-called experts to back it up. I could produce endless experts backing up the existence of bigfoot – but conventional wisdom says otherwise. Don’t even get me started on her remarks about evolution being a theory…

Sorry, I’m admittedly right-wing but not impressed with Ms. Bachmann. Too much spinning not enough sincerity.
I dislike Romney as well, for the same exact reasons. I predict they’ll both get smashed in the primary debates once they’re up to full speed.

@Rick Wassner. Just because you are able to obtain/attain a degree (s) does not make you smart. I’m sure you will agree with that. The President has an excellent educational background and yet the Right-Less deem him stupid. Personally, I agree with you. I thought President G W Bush was quite smart. I just thought he made some bad and unfortunate decisions.
I suppose it works both ways, huh?

Now we have “Founding Children”? Makes sense….Nine year olds hold ALOT of poltical power

I would consider him a founding father. Founding Father is not necessarily the people who signed the declaration of independnence and/or constitution. I would say that the first 20-30 years of the USA the nation was still developing into a nation. I would also argue that leaders who worked for a declaration of independence prior to the document being signed could be called founding fathers. I guess I have a broad view of what a founding father would be.

It has always been true that you can figure how much impact you have and how big your shadow is by who and how many are your enemies. Michelle and/or Sarah are smarter than “the ears” every day, all the time. I think he now can pronouce “corpsmen” correctly. Maybe he now knows how many states the US has. I hear that they are coming up with a teleprompter that you have implanted behind your eyelids just for “the ears.”

Just answer the question!!! I think it’s freaking funny reading her supporters try to justify her stupidity! It’s almost as much fun to read Palin’s supporters. Thanks for the afternoon laughs! And for the people that keep saying “Obama said 57 states” please get some new material!

Anyone see the disconnect here besides me? Our forefathers fought tirelessly to eradicate slavery but she wants to reinstate it by doing away with minimum wage so she can hire undocumented workers at $2 an hour. ROFLMAO

George evidently doesn’t know American history, but that’s to be expected since he has been indoctrinated so well into liberal fantasies. George needs to quit laying his fake history on the public and apologize to Rep. Bachmann.
Since he needs some help with figuring out the truth about Founding Fathers who attempted to end slavery, George can perhaps bring himself to read Mark Levin’s excellent critique of George’s false meme. Here’s the link to give George a head start on enlightenment:
But no one should hold their breath waiting for George to apologize to Rep. Bachmann, nor for him to challenge his own ignorance by actually making the effort to learn the facts before he spouts hilarious liberal dogma. It’s asks way too much to expect a committed liberal to be honest, open-minded, and remorseful about their cult ignorance, and actually uttering these words, “I am sorry. I was wrong.”
Cows will jump over the moon before liberals like George admit the errors of their delusional world view.

Let’s review here on Obama gaffes:
1. I have been to 57 states with one or two more to go.
2. “My Muslim faith” mentioned in an interview with Stephanopoulos 2007. George had to “correct” Obama by saying “you mean your Christian faith”.
3.Pronouncing corpsman, not once, but twice as CORPSE-MAN!!!!!
4. Calling the Congressional Medal of Honor winner by the wrong name….a dead soldier…one who had received it posthumously….Obama doesn’t know the difference.
5. Saying that the “police acted stupidly” during a nationally televised teleprompter speech” in regards to the local Cambridge Police Dept. arrest of Obama’s friend. Prof. Gates. Then having to make up for it because of the outrage by hosting a “beer summit” (classiness personified!)
6. Speaking to a town hall regarding health care and speaking about a person with asthma using a “breathalyzer”!!!! (yes, Obama does drink a little too much, so maybe he is very familiar with this device).
The point is that the left attacks personally instead of looking what a candidate can do for our crumbling country.
Americans have smartened up. Attack a conservative candidate by nitpicking. It will only garner support for our candidate. Keep it up.

The real question is, who is the biggest FLAKE palin or bachmann? If you saw her on TV Sunday morning you could not help but notice how she tries to skirt every question that is asked her. For those that are saying people give her gotcha questions. “What did you have for lunch?” would be a gotcha question for palin and bachmann…

Let’s require that ALL politcal leaders answer the questions directly,no bashing each other and give specific solutions to the problems we are facing! Require our media to ask pertinent questions. For e.g. abolish Obamacare? Does that include your federally funded health insurance? Don’t the citizens of USA deserve the same benefits AS THE POLITICIANS? Let’s not get ourselves divided in party groups and continue losing. Remember divided we fall, united we win! Let’s also hold CONGRESS accountable and demand TERM LIMITS FOR THEM TOO! WAKE UP AND UNITE.

Has anyone really taken a close look at the GOP candidates. There is not a legitimate contender in the bunch. This country does not want to go back to the bush days when he had us headed into a DEPRESSION. Thanks President Obama for getting us out of that mess and for getting us back on track. My 401k really took a hit when bush was in charge (fall 2008). Obama in 2012…

This woman is an idiot – and she is like every other candidate – she never answers the question posed. Some of her “social” views are gonna destroy her chances but in the end – she is not smart enough to do the job. She is not “different” than other Washington politicians at all and she will not win the Republican nomination.

“Has anyone really taken a close look at the GOP candidates. There is not a legitimate contender in the bunch….”
I don’t know about that. Personally, I have always liked Romney but in my view he is Obama Light. Stick with what you have I say. I also, find Jon Huntsman interesting. He made my ears perk up with his opening statement to the effect; “I’m not here to bash. I’m here to tell you what I’m going to do.”
I liked that.
Now, the rest of the bunch I agree whole heartedly with you!!!

[QUOTE -- Yeah, and I remember when Obama said in '08 that he traveled to all "57" states. Funny how the media remained silent on that gaffe. -- QUOTE] The fact that you’re comparing that to crazy lady Bachmann’s CONSISTENT statements that are wrong is ridiculous. He misspoke. That’s its very definition. She says these completely nonfactual things, and then tries to defend her inaccuracies (which go against documented history, and often, reality) before blaming the media for reporting what she says EXACTLY AS SHE SAID IT. She’s a perpetual victim. It’s all the media’s fault. Uh-huh.

This flake, this balloonhead, apparently has only one brain cell and that poor cell must be awful lonely! Her biggest night is not election day, it is October 31.

I am surprised that George’s knowledge of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is limited to such an ‘Elementary School’ level.

Hey George, Go review your history books. This from The American Spectator’s Jeffrey Lord this afternoon:
In 1785, James Madison (as noted by his biographer, Ralph Ketcham in James Madison) took to the floor of the Virginia Assembly, where he was a delegate, and
spoke…favoring a bill Jefferson had proposed for the gradual abolition of slavery (it was rejected), and helped defeat a bill designed to outlaw the manumission of individual slaves. Of this effort a French observer wrote that Madison, “a young man (who)….astonishes…by his eloquence, his wisdom, and his genius, has had the humanity and courage (for such a proposition requires no small share of courage) to propose a general emancipation of the slaves.”
Madison was not alone in taking action on the subject. There was another Founding Father, along with Madison a co-author of The Federalist Papers. That would be Alexander Hamilton.
In Alexander Hamilton: A Life, biographer Willard Sterne Randall notes that this Founding Father helped “to found…the Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves in New York.” Randall on goes to say that:
….never forgetting the slave markets of his St. Croix childhood, Hamilton became a prime mover in the early abolitionist group. He pressured the (New York) state legislature and helped to raise money to buy and free slaves. The society’s founders…elected Hamilton chairman to draw up recommendations for “a line of conduct” for any “members who still possessed slaves.” He also established a registry for manumitted slaves, listing their names and ages, “to detect attempts to deprive such manumitted persons of their liberty.”
There’s more with Hamilton, who also demanded (writing and signing a 1786 petition on the subject) the legislature ban the importation of slaves, calling slavery ” a commerce so repugnant to humanity.”
There is a difference between opposing something and being unable to change the practice in the day — and doing nothing. But it is just flatly false to say, as Stephanopoulos says, that the Founding Fathers did not work to end slavery. The historical record, if one looks, is crystal clear. Madison did. Hamilton did. Jefferson did. They did not succeed, they were personally flawed, some owning slaves themselves. (Wasn’t it George who wrote a book on a flawed president he knew called All Too Human?) But these Founding Fathers started the United States of America down the right historical path, personally “working” to end slavery.
There was a reason for the Three-Fifths Compromise in the Constitution. That reason: there were delegates to the Constitutional Convention (and they would be called Founding Fathers ) who supported abolition — as well as those who opposed it. Hence — the compromise. Which was not about declaring a black man three-fifths of a person as, for example, Al Gore and many liberals erroneously say. (Where was George then?) It was about reducing the power of slavery as an institution in the new United States Congress. If, as slave owners insisted, slaves were property — then the obvious: they should not be counted as whole persons, which would increase the proportional power of the slave states in the House of Representatives, where representation was based on population size. The slave owners wanted it both ways — to treat slaves as property but count them as persons, effectively increasing the slave owning power in Congress. The abolitionist delegates said no — hence the compromise.
So Levin is quite correct here — adding another Founding Father to this list: George Mason of Virginia.
Mark Levin caught you out, George, and his details are here.
But Michele Bachmann was right. There were Founding Fathers who worked to end slavery.
Is challenging Michele Bachmann on fundamental history and getting it wrong embarrassing for somebody in the liberal media who criticizes others on the subject? Yes. Will George be concerned enough to retract and correct the record?
Uh-huh. Sure.

All I can say, is that the media is pretty hard up for news when they have to focus on such silly things. Focus in on the issues.

Is she really running for president or is this just an excuse not to do anything but party for a year and stick the campaign donations in her pocket like Newt .

It’s absolutely astonishing how many “conservatives” keep talking about Obama saying there are 57 states… It’s just astonishing. It shows how crazy these people are. Do they actually believe that Barack Obama didn’t know there are 50 states in 2008? Seriously? It’s such an obvious miss-statement. The type of thing that happens to anyone. Sometimes your tongue gets tied and the wrong thing comes out but only a complete buffoon would then assume that you actually believe the thing that you said when it’s common knowledge. I mean… It’s just mind blowing to think about how stupid you would have to be to actually believe that Obama actually thought there are 57 states. Absolutely mind-blowing.
This, of course, is a totally different situation. The history of John Quincy Adams is not known by *EVERYONE* in the US like the fact that the US has 50 states is. While it is something that should be known by a so called serious politician, it is not a basic fact that every American knows. To compare them is ridiculous.
Saying there are 57 states is an obvious example of miss speaking.
Saying that John Q. Adams was a founding father is an obvious example of ignorance.
Comparing these two things as being in any way the same shows an utter lack of basic understanding.

Why try to speculate about what she might have “meant” to say? Why search for some sliver of historic truth in her wandering and untargeted comments? Why compare her to other (potential & not) candidates? Shouldn’t this person (that happens to be female) be able to accurately & effectively defend herself, her comments & her actions? Shouldn’t a person we are considering to be a potential President of our country be assessed based on their own merits & abilities, rather than be touted as “better than” other options? If her true abilities and qualifications have not yet revealed themselves, what can we look forward to? To have the WORST record of making false statements, is not the fault of the MSM, but that of her own capabilities . . . . . Only makes me question our motivation, as a people, to continue to place those “not the worst” in the job, we only deserve to BEST to be performing.

Bachmann and her Republican “trickle-down” economics = Tea Pee for the middle class. How many times will the ill-informed be fooled by Republican promises to protect the working man when history shows that all they do is protect the rich and their corporate donors?

Is Bachmann the best clown that Ringling Brothers has to offer?

Bachmann is an example of why the Republicans will blow it again!
I am a Conservative,yet,I will not vote for her or those the likes…
I will not vote!
Obama can be beat but not with “Flakes” like Bachmann and the majority of rehashed Republicans..
Bachmann is anti veteran,she has proposed legislation taking away benefits and compensation from disabled veterans wounded in combat fighting for their country (USA)
Bachmann is just an example of what is wrong with the republican party.
All those seeking the nomination for the repubs right now are all the wrong people,if you run any of the likes of Romney,Gingrich,Palin,Bachmann it will be an easy victory for Obama

We need a republican in the white house to get America back to where we need to be. Every time the Dems take office this country suffers badly.Liars always turn things sour.

@MARY ELLEN BEEBE,
It’s not that she misspoke, as did Obama in his 57 states comment, of which he later said that he made a mistake.
George, was giving her plenty of chances to correct the record, to say I misspoke, or I exaggerated to make a point, or I was quoted out of context, or I no longer agree with that statement.
Instead she danced all around the topic, never directly addressing the question she was asked.

Dear George, I believe it is you that needs the history lesson. 200 years before the USA was formed foreign countries embedded slavery in North America. July 4th 1776 the Declaration of Independence was signed. That document was prepared by Thomas Jefferson and others. The first draft had a strong prohibition against slavery and attacked foreign powers for fostering slavery into the Americas. Franklin & Adams prevailed on having it removed as they needed a unanimous vote for independence. Both Franklin & Adams agreed with Jefferson in regards to the evils of slavery. Adams & Franklin owned no slaves. Jefferson did, however was opposed to it. Upon reading the Declaration of Independence it states “That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. In less than 100 years, even with slavery embedded, this country eradicated it. The Founding Fathers were the prime movers.
What I never could understand is why this country receives criticism for slavery rather than praise for the eradication.

The Fort Drum gaffe that Obama made last week makes anything she says pale in comparison. He mentions a serviceman whom he remembers meeting and giving an award, but only one problem–the serviceman was killed in the line of duty in Afghanistan–never met Obama. Oops! Had to call the parents of the deceased and apologize for his gaffe. Too bad ABC, CBS, NBC forgot to mention that one. Too busy worrying about attacking conservatives.

I am an AP U.S. History Teacher. while many of the founding fathers disliked slavery and wanted it to end, some understood it was an economic necessity for our nation and kept it around. The 3/5ths Compromise was not an attempt to end slavery as much as it was an early attempt to limit its growth and keep the fragile unity, as were many of the early compromises in our history. The founding fathers might have anguished over it a little, but not long. They had to create a new government in a very quick fashion.

She makes Sarah Palin look like Nobel Prize material.

I would be willing to bet that most Republican haters in here support Obama not for what he has done but because he is a black man…..come on tell the truth.

George was looking for a Palin moment. What he didn’t expect was Michele actually knowing what she was talking about and that his ‘elementary’ knowledge made ‘him’ appear inept. Which inevitably leaves the uninformed, that are in denial, to ‘simply’ claim that the other person is just ‘wrong’. Without any explanation as to why.
What Michele needs to watch out for are situations where her opponents leverage the ‘elementary’ knowledge of the opposition’s drones. The drones don’t like to find out that, as Paul Harvey would say, that there is the ‘Rest of the Story’.

Why didn’t the media critize anything that Obama has said? Why is the media trying to demonize Michelle Bachmann? Look at Obama’s record – he is a terrible president. The only thing his stimulus package did was increase the debt that will be left to our children. I used to be a fan of ABC News but they are not a fair and balanced news station. If you are going to critize all republican candidates then you need to do the same with the president.

This women is not stupid. She is just plain old evil. 99.999% of politicians are one notch below child molesters. This women is two notches below politicians.

George,
Your media bias is astounding! Your lack of knowledge of our Founders is also astounding. You and your liberal friends need to go back to high school and learn about the establishment of the United States. The statement that the Founders struggled to have America established as a “free” nation is absolutely true! John Adams, Samuel Adams, and Benjamin Franklin led the fight. Jefferson and James Madison also supported a slave free nation. Unfortunately, representatives from South Carolina and Georgia would not vote to establish America without slaveholder rights. Therefore, they relented. They knew that the form of government that they established would allow for freedom for slaves when America was ready. They opted for freedom for the many.
My greater problem is your absolute lack of journalistic integrity. It appears that you are actively trying to smear the Representative from Minnesota. Is your rationale that you smeared Sarah Palin, and now you will use the same tactic with Bachmann?
Here is a fair and balanced question for you, why are you not asking President Obama about his horrifying gaffe at Fort Drum? Or does that not fit the “all conservatives are stupid” narrative. Of course when President Obama says something stupid it does not get reported. Why not, George?????

The only thing Backmann needs to defend is why on earth she is even being considered by the people of America as a candidate. Have you people lost your minds??? We’re talking Hitler in a dress!

I see that the liberals are coming out like attack dogs to nitpick everything that Michele Backmann says. You were all absent or just “struck stupid” when Obama uttered falsehood after falsehood during his campaign and never point out his inconsistencies. “Politifact ” is very biased and seems to have a liberal bent overall. If it is a conservative they go to the nth degree to discredit the statement and do not go as far on the liberals which shows how old habits die hard. The liberal Democrat Party is afraid of Michele because she is genuine and sticks to her guns. We shall see. Can you say Perry-Bachmann 2012 or maybe Bachmann-Perry in 2012?

SHE IS AS DUMB AS SARA PALIN!!

How can anyone take Bachmann or Palin seriously? I just don’t understand it. And it saddens me that our country has been reduced to dealing with these “know-nothings” who take it upon themselves to rewrite history every time they are caught screwing up. They don’t lie, they just don’t know anything so they make stuff up. Pathetic!

Just another thought on Politifact. Why have they not come out on the so-called Certificate of Live Birth that your esteemed President Obama submitted to the Public recently on WhiteHouse.gov website? This is the one that has been forged to comply with Obama’s claim that he was born in Hawaii. If he indeed was then why would he submit a forgery and declare it as the original? Do you think your exhalted Politifact will step up and evaluate that in the interest of truth? A 22 page criminal complaint was filed by a graphics company with the FBI so we shall see my friends. Psst. The media has not said a thing about it other than “This will shut up the Birthers”. Why haven’t you with ABC said anything about BATF’s “Fast and Furious” operation yet? Fox had it three months ago and CBS has reported it for three weeks now.

“It was like Special Olympics or something.”
~Barack Obama
Oh yeah, and the Medal of Honor winner? The one you gave the medal to posthumously? He’s still dead.

Sadie, please, your slinging of what an Obama supporter is is so far off the mark. Most are not black; many of them aren’t even liberals, since the bluest liberals seem to complain about him as much as you deep-red cons. That being said–he did save the US auto industry, and he’s gotten us back a majority of the TARP money. He did get bin Laden (even my deep red brother admits this was great), the economy and corporate profits are improving, but most importantly, my retirement is up 50% since he took office. I lost ground on retirement during the Bush years…now I am way up, even with the past few weeks. So if you want to know why I support him, it boils down to that. Reagan was right, the pertinent question is “are you better off than you were four years ago?” I can say yes, I have kept my job, got a slight pay raise, yet have seen my investments do very well in two years. So I’d be foolish to not support him. Is he as good a leader as I’d hoped he’d be? No, I think he can be wimpy to the GOP stalwarts. That should make you happy. It doesn’t make Al Gore happy as he decried Obama’s lack of environmental leadership. Romney is the only one running who I could even consider voting for, but you will not nominate him anyway and we moderates decide every election.

Interesting comments, some enlighten, some like other commentors determine to agitate to make name for self. Regardless, the interview for some of us was interesting, the Congressman has learned well in 5-years how to speak “Congressionalese” answer without answering, staying on point, not turning left nor right but charge forward and entertained. To your critics it is apparent they are new for Media is viewed through the lenses which enables them to justify their belief, so you will never win. The only news media which is consistent and blatant with their purpose is FOX, they want to make who they want President and lead the individuals to think they are independently making their decisions like grown-up. Your station and other demonstrate they are for whoever result in the most ratings. President Obama the “darling?” The nameless individual who made this statement is part of the “making them think they are in charge of their own life” when in reality they are the most dangerous because they have been bamboozled, fooled, duped with their permission. Such is the American way. George prior to your going to GMA YOU promised me an interview for site, I was in graduate school you had just started Sunday Morning. I’m the person who miraculously got pass the protective service and actually talked to you. I still would like the opportunity. Your group has become more crafty and it is not as easy. Oh, Politico and every conservative think tank and even your News Network has graciously pointed out President Obama’s errors. And even if Obama is one term, that’s politics, ask Carter, Bush, Sr., ask Dole, Qualye, (wanna be presidents but their own received them not), oh yea, there were wanna bes on each side, and still the government went forward. Clinton was snubbed by his own after miraculously winning a second term when Newt and company envoked their Contract on America, so why don’t you who only regurgitate and like your beloved, allow the wisdom of a nat stop pestering and share real facts, simply, ANSWER QUESTIONS AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY voicing words without substance? But, this is America, forgive me, continue to spill rather than convince.

BTW…wasnt Thomas Jefferson also diddling his help?? So much for wanting freedom for his “owned” help. I wonder what would have happened should she had objected to his advances.??

My neighbors son lost his job a while back do to lay offs and after some time found a job that pays $10 an hour. He’s barely making ends meet and the parents are having to supplement occasionally. What does Bachmann think he and my co-workers should get paid? Seriously, if we eliminate minimum wage he would be earning at hell of a lot less? How the heck does she figure folks are to pay their bills?
We are all doomed with this mentality!

Michele bachman: She is a fake and is another Sarah Palin I would like to see the faces of the so called foster children she claims lived with her what races were they and what they would like to say, and if she did got payed money for having them live there.I believe that the election of President Obama was a big surprize to the republican party and they are still in shock.Considering the state of the nation when he came to office he’s done alot more than people want to admit.in the 8yrs Bush was in office what did he accomplish it was about just keeping the republicans in office and all it has done is put the american people in the toilet and coffins. The world was a better place without the Bushes. President Obama cought Osama Bin Ladin. Its time to stop… vietnam is what this is turning out to be and at a very bad time for our economy.I’m voting for 4 more years for our president let him finish his full term he deserves it. I believe he can pull it off. And gives us back our country the way it should be. I have such respect for him even though some politions have not. My father believed in this country and gave 36 yrs in the Army And I believe that What behavior parents accept thier children will embrace.

Most historians define the “Founding Fathers” to mean a larger group, including not only the Signers and the Framers but also all those who, whether as politicians, jurists, statesmen, soldiers, diplomats, or ordinary citizens, took part in winning American independence and creating the United States of America.[2] American historian Richard B. Morris, in his 1973 book Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny:” If old Georgie is going to after Bachman for gaffing on some obscure historical fact getting the Adams mixed up—he should atleast have enuff sense to get his definations right. Technically even the younger Adams could be called a founder. Hey, George Get an education.

Maybe that’s what Michele Bachmann learned at Oral Roberts University where she got her law degree…I know, I know, Obama only went to Harvard…and who knows what they teach there?

Every time Rep. Bachman steps in front of a microphone she’s immediately stricken with “foot-in-mouth disease.” 5 biological children and 23 foster children is admirable, but her knowledge of American history is abominable. Every politician does the “question dodging two step,” but Rep. Bachman as well as former Gov. Palin display their ignorance. They claim to represent the interests of the American people; how can they do so if they are so ignorant of our history and the multitude of ethnicities which have and continue to make America and Americans what we are?

Upon reading these posts it’s obvious the brains are on the right and the dimwits are on the left.
Democrats fit perfectly that new email that’s making the rounds. The one where two democrats are stuck on an esclator yelling for help.

We need a candidate who can give a yes or no answer. Obviously Bachmann cannot do this.
I like the way she said John Quincy Adams was our founding boy and not our founding father. I’m just surprised he never got tired. Maybe slaves were helping him?

Many of the founding fathers acknowledged that slavery violated the core of the American Revolutionary ideal of liberty. But on the other hand the consensus by the founding fathers as a whole was slavery also served as a great investment for the young nation. At no time did they ever “work tirelessly” to end it. Bachmann is going down the same path as Sarah Palin as far as displaying her utter ignorance about anything American.

Help me out George. I don’t remember JQ Adams being part of the founding of our nation. I remember in eigth grade US History memorizing the participants of the Constitutional Convention and the Signers/non-signers of the Declaration of Independence. John Adams, JQ’s father is on that list. If Ms. Bachman is so well educated why do you allow her to continue to make false attributes without challenging her more aggressively? Why allow her to continue to spread misinformation about US history, slavery and science history (hint when did Darwin sail on The Beagle) to list three. Can’t the research resources of ABC News verify her wild claims in a more timely manner? Perhaps even while she is being interviewed?

Come on people let’s quit trying to unmind competitor’s integrity, get to business on the facts, and will you do well for us?

George Stephanop. continued his trashing of Rep. Bachmann again tonight by having “The Voice” or “His voice” aka. Jakie Tapper tell the worn out story again. Why George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves! But he failed to say( Mr. Stepho. failed to say) that Geoge Washington’s writings showed he hated slavery and freed all his slaves and paid for their education when his wife died.That Thomas Jefferson wrote passionate articles against slavery and tried to write a bill banning importaion of slaves to Virginia in the 1710′s,John Adams hated slavery! Oh! but they forgot this or maybe they didnt know! Yeah ! wink! wink! what a liberal scam~!

The fact of the matter is that many of the U.S. Founders opposed slavery including Thomas Jefferson. Here is a quote from the Monticello website: “He drafted the Virginia law of 1778 prohibiting the importation of enslaved Africans. In 1784 he proposed an ordinance banning slavery in the new territories of the Northwest. From the mid-1770s he advocated a plan of gradual emancipation, by which all born into slavery after a certain date would be declared free.” Jefferson did continue to personally own slaves. Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, & Aaron Burr founded the New York Manumission Society. All of the Northern states gradually abolished slavery after the Revolution. Most of the Northern delegates to the Constitutional Convention opposed slavery. That is why the delegates had to have a compromise on how to count slaves in the census. The basic reasoning for abolishing slavery came from the Founders’ adherence to natural law. Many of the Founders’ beliefs & actions did lead to the abolition of slavery. It is reporters who do not know history or philosophy.

George did good in helping her out by giving her the chance to redeem herself and admit she had faltered in her account of American History, but she was insistent on standing by her ridiculous remarks. It was her own Chris Wallace, a FOXman that called her a flake so people should not be blaming liberals. If you cannot see the obvious inadequacies that she displays then you have taken denial to a whole new level!

Learn to read Diane! Learn to read! lol

What is the definition of founding father? JQA certainly lived during the period of the founding although he was the son of John Adams who had an integral influence on the founding of the Nation. JQA’s influence on the early history of the Nation would qualify him to be a “Founding Father” unless you make a signer of the Declaration or other early documents a criterion. I would also go as far as to say that in the future those in the early history of this nation as far as Abraham Lincoln and beyond had such an influence on the Founding of this Nation’s ideals that even honest Abe could be considered a Founding Father by those of us who revere the values of early America. If you can’t understand this, then you are probably an ideologue.

This is about Michele because it was HER INTERVIEW NOT President OBAMA or her other gaffe, if you really believe it, Governor Sarah Palin???? LOL!!!!
You can’t ignore much of this and her NO PLAN NO ANSWER approach. If you do then you can’t speak on what they have that is better than now.
It doesn’t and shouldn’t take rocket science to realize we are were we are because our country is being taken over by the RICH. She wants to eliminate minimum wage so they can compete with slave labor and sweat shop labor camps. Is this really what you want for your kids???? Are you really that desperate after being KEPT FROM a DEPRESSION???? Now the republicans want to cut government spending in and exaggerated fashion and timeline. Lol. That will in turn increase UNEMPLOYMENT … if you haven’t figured that out yet.
Think about it because those cuts will include Government workers…. Commercial contractors… etc… LOSING their jobs. Now when one of the republicans can explain it all I would be more than happy to listen. But holding out on this budget and debt ceiling issue is a joke and another Terror Politics act they pull every election year.

You think that George could have spent his time with Michelle talking about how to solve our current problems rather than one statement. How about asking our current President why he doesn’t work at all to solve our economy. How about an unbiased interview George?

Nice try George to get her to answer any question directly.
I’m afraid she is too slippery of a politician to do just that.
Because of her inability to stand by her statements, I have lost respect for her.

DEB I can just see it now, if Bachmann gets elected and spouts some gaffe to a foreign leader, it could lead to war+++If Obama rambling on incoherently during “God Save the Queen” in front of the Queen of England doesn’t cause the slightest stir in the liberal media then this is the best you got?

Basically because of the forementioned facts — I would say Bachmann was correct in stating that founding fathers worked tirelessly against slavery but was wrong in including John Quincy into founders.
Not off very much though because John Quincy Adams did work for his father during the drafting of the Constitution as secretary. He worked for Washington and for other founding fathers when they became Presidents. So while he may not be technically a Founder or Signer he was only a few years short.

George…..would you speak to your wife this way????? You don’t even speak to other men the way you spoke to Michelle Bachmann. I am surprised that the woman of American are not beating on your door. Grow up and be a man. You even mentioning the word “flake” was inappropriate. You have lost any interest I had in following you as “reporter”.

she is RIGHT on this one and George doesn’t have a clue! That would be funny except I watch some of what he does. This is about WOMEN with him. NO WOMAN can reach the ideals of President. This makes me sick. This is an attack against women. I thought we fought and won that war years ago, apparenlty we didn’t win in the Federal government. I am for WOMEN and families and I find this interview seriously disturbing!

She wants to AMEND the constitution
to PREVENT STATES
from deciding on marriage.
The purpose of the CONSTITUTION is to
LIMIT and restrain GOVERNMENT!!!!!!
FAIL

I just can’t believe some of the stupid comments on here. I am a single mom raising my child I do everything in my power to keep what I have and I would like a women president just not her or palin!!! Come on people are you serious. Obama is doing the best he can everybody opposes what he tries to do n he is only dealing with the hand that george bush left him which was a big mess!!!! You can’t blame obama for everything go back another president!!!

She voted for the patriot actPosted by: Joe | Jun 28, 2011 9:39:26 PM+++You mean the same Patriot Act that Obama was so against as a candidate but as Prez gives it his full support?

I am amazed at how Bachmann can’t directly answer a question. And it is scary that she can’t admit she made a mistake when she said the Founding Fathers fought tirelessly against slavery. Does she think historians aren’t going to weigh in? Does she think people don’t know how to look up this info?
And the idea of getting rid of minimum wage is terrible… it isn’t a living wage as it is, if people work for less they really can’t make it. But I bet big corporations love the idea! Maybe she is counting on their generous donations.

Let’s stop blaming our problems today on what Obama inherited from Bush — open your eyes people – Obama and his leftist cronies are totally responsible for the mess we are in today ! He has created positions for like minded leftists, expanded the government to keep us under control and ignores the Constitution, making his own rules – can you spell “Socialist Republic of America” ??

George’s partisan interview in which he threatened Michelle Bachman’s children was disgusting. I have watched GMA every morning for years. Love Robin!!!! GEORGE HAS TO GO!!! When he is honest and goes back into Democratic politics, I will start watching GMA again.

A bit of American history. In 2007, my spouse, who grew up in Philly, took me to see all the landmark sites, including an excavation site for G. Washington’s home. A Philly preservation society posted a sign out front that included information about Washington’s runaway slave, and the efforts he went to to get her back. Here is one (of many) links.

I apologize that my link didn’t, well, link. I’m trying again. If you key in the words “Washington, Philadelphia, and runaway slave,” you will hit a number of websites.

“so that the American people can keep more of what they make.” This is what
she said about the minimum wage. By
saying “American people” she means the
rich people who hire the working class.
That is who she appeals to and for who
she is working.

What scares me about the character of these tea party candidates Palin and Bachmann is that they cannot bring themselves to say, “oops, sorry I misspoke.”
Everyone slips up once in a while, but these two won’t admit it. Paul Revere didn’t get out of bed thinking “Hey, I think I’ll go warn the British today,” and our southern founding fathers sure as heck were not working tirelessly to end slavery; they were haggling to get guarantees into the constitutions to protect it. Geez, read a history book sometime.
So instead of admitting a simple understandable misstatement, Palin and Bachmann double-down on the stupid. Yeah, I like where the GOP leadership may be headed.

this woman represents THE CLUB FOR GROWTH, go to their website to see who they present. its not you

James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and George Mason were all ardent abolitionists.
The whole reason for the three-fifths compromise is because many delegates wanted to end slavery. The whole point was to reduce the representation of slave states.
Those who disagree with the three-fifths compromise must be in favor of more power to slave states, which is insane. The fact that such compromises had to be made suggests that many Founding Fathers opposed the franchise.
Ironically, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both owned slaves but supported abolition of slavery in their letters and public pronouncements. Washington freed his slaves on his death and granted them title to some of his property, which was perhaps instructive as to where his sentiments were.
George was wrong to proclaim that none of the Founding Fathers opposed slavery. That is just plain ignorant. More than half of the convention delegates were from states that outlawed the practice.
Ben Franklin was also an abolitionist. He and Benjamin Rush founded America’s first antislavery society.
Other prominent Founding Fathers who were members of societies for ending slavery included John Jay, William Livingston, Richard Bassett, James Madison, James Monroe, Bushrod Washington, Charles Carroll, William Few, John Marshall, Richard Stockton, Zephaniah Swift, and many more. More than a dozen other signers wrote public letters calling for the abolition of slavery and yet others called for abolition in all western territories.
“I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it [slavery].”
—George Washington
George Steph should know better than to make such an absolutist and uninformed comment.

Yes, it is true that President Obama has made his share of gaffes’ too, but, whats uniquie about Bachmann is that whenever she is caught making a mistake, she creates some fantasy rather than admit she is wrong!
The president, conversly, when he says something foolish, always admits his gaffe and apologizes.
And, no, our founding fathers never worked to abolish slavery. Most were wealthy land owners who needed slaves to work their plantations. But, that does not diminish the beauty of the framers of the Constitution; it just clarifys the reality of the times.

George what a misogynist you are! You are a little man with a very little mind. Your biased attitude is boring and very unprofessional. Because of you I have decided after years to stop watching GMA.

>> And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.
UM. Okay we can play a “how you want to measure freedom” game, and yes it’s true that in all other first world countries you aren’t free to pack iron and blow your neighbour’s head off at random…. but I’d say overall, the freedom you have is indeed unparalleled in the rest of the first world. Because it is *surpassed* in the rest of the First World. But she can just keep on repeating whatever myths she needs to tell herself.

I think you should be ashamed of yourself Mr. Stephanopolous. You looked like a bully in your interview with Mrs. Bachmann. You were sarcastic and clearly biased. I feel disappointed in GMA and it’s biased reporting. You lost a viewer today.

I have heard gaffs from both liberal and conservatives. Joe Biden has had more than his share of gaffs, like saying, “A three letter word jobs.” But, I don’t take any of these gaffs from Bachmann, Obama or Biden seriously. It is just not that important. What is important is the turning around the economy. I have never agreed with Obama’s Keynesian economic method for growing the economy so I will be voting for whoever becomes the Republican nominee.

Wallbuilders is not a historically accurate site. Barton is not a historian and he skews his information horridly.

“Posted by: Bruce Darby | Jun 29, 2011 1:39:54 AM
Please note, not everyone had slaves, they were foisted on the US by England who we were under until after the Revolutionary War, we took the least amount of slaves in than any country (500,000) compared to South American countries, one of which took in 3.5 million.
And we were the only country on earth to fight a Civil War to free them. Many of course, had been freed decades earlier by us and many were never enslaved in the first place but ran for office, were Congressmen, etc. Check it out. ”
FOISTED on us?! Are you serious? Yeah.. England forced the southern states to set up a system of farming that encouraged slavery, that silly indentured servant thing just wasn’t working out well enough for them. What a pain to have to free them at the end of 7 years and give them some land, why not just keep them working…
You do realize that England freed all its slaves in 1833, while in 1850 we were still requiring that all runaways be returned to their owners. Us having to fight the most deadly US war in history isn’t a good thing by the way, slavery should have been abolished without having to fight.

They give women a bad name and make men feel more capable of representing. At this rate, we will never have a woman President. LOL!!!

Slavery today just has differnt names: like middle class? Poor? Economic slavery has all the trappings of the original with modern settings.

The Wallace thing was an inoculation tactic. If you’ve got a weakness, the saying goes, you should be the one to plant a flag in it.
Fox asks if she’s a flake, then conspicuously recants, and Bang Howdy!, suddenly no other news sources can ask the question without violating a border that Ms. Bachmann herself drew up.

Seems that she’s more interested in sending a BS message. Gee, take away all corporate taxes and wages will go up. Right, just like as corporate profits went back up they were all going to hire people back rather than pocket the profits and hand out bonuses. Face it, the reason we have illegals coming over is because people are willing to pay them crap to work. All businesses want to do is continue to pay crap, so if they can pay regular folks crap, no more illegals and problem solved. They love this economy. they’re making lots of money, and people can’t complain about their wages because they’re just supposed to be happy they have any job at all and if they don’t like it, they’ve got some dumb college grad with $75K in student loan debt willing to work 15 hours a day for $5 an hour for the next 25 years to pay off that debt. For someone who claims the Founding Fathers fought against slavery, she sure likes to promote enslaving everyone to the company store.

I find Bachmann and Palin to be very similar in their inability to admit they are wrong, even when shown historical facts. Isn’t that a sign of ego-maniacal tendencies?
It certainly isn’t a personality trait that belongs in the White House or in any elected position. If you can’t admit you are wrong, you can’t learn properly but are frozen in your old beliefs permanently, no matter how much new and old information shows you are wrong. Close-mindedness is unhealthy.

George, which of the 57 states were you born in?

Hang on a second…The first question was “take the country back from whom?” and her answer was “from the people all across the nation.” That’s a new one for me. Does that mean she’s anti-democracy?

I support Michelle and will vote for her without thinking. She is correct about this issue as well as any others. Only those who are unpatriotic liberals would question what she says. After all God told her to run for president. God knows what is good for us. Praise Jesus, vote Tea Party.

this is so silly ,people really want to vote for this idiot?”welcome to America”!!!

@ Steve from NH John Quincy Adams was the Sixth not the Fourth President.

Dear “TheLoyalOpposition”,
Ummm, NO, the “founding fathers” didn’t “anguish” over slavery. They WERE the very embodiment of slavery. They perpetuated it, lived it and enjoyed the fruits of it since several of them were, IN FACT, slaveowners themselves. It’s very difficult to “work tirelessly to end slavery” when you are actually continuing the practice in your very own life.
TRUTHTELLER

I paid attention in high school in civics class (also called social studies), which is almost none existent in public or private schools today. Bachmann obviously didn’t get a proper education or wasn’t paying attention. Just as we get rid of these important studies, we dumb down our children. Same came be said, by getting rid of physical education, our children are 40% fatter. By doing away with vocation classes and the arts. Math (Music requires math) and the trades which allows children to choose a trade, which can’t be exported in place of a useless college degree. Most who have a college degree have NO CLUE what the business world is like so they come into the work place expecting privilege and high salary never having any ON THE JOB TRAINING. Their Summers are spent getting drunk on some beach in some foreign country or here in the USA. I disagree with Obama, College does not give our kids an edge. The edge is in the trades, a trade is just as good as a college degree. Anyone who has called a plumber, electrician or carpenter know, they make good money! Some more than some with a useless BA degree!

The only thing proven here is that Michele Bachmann knows her American history better than George Stephanopoulos does. George, study your history before opening your mouth about it next time. The Founding Fathers clearly worked tirelessly to end slavery, and it’s sad that middle schools no longer provide anything more than the most shallow and ill-informed understanding of our nations founding. Even worse to know that George never learned anything beyond the cursory glance provided in middle school.

I thought Quitter Palin was bad. Bachmann has her beat.

Sure….lower the minimum wage and let the oil companies keep their tax breaks. Lower the minimum wage and let millionares and billionare keep their tax breaks. Eliminate all government regulations and let the big corporations and financial institutions do whatever they want. Just take a look at the last 10 years and the housing market bubble! Oh! and let’s not forget that we can continue to spend billions per month on wars! REPUBLICANS RULE…..NOT ON MY WATCH!

really Tea Party and Rep. Is that the best that you can do. no wonder Obama won so bad in 2008. just let you open mouth and insert foot. Bachmann is as bad as Palin. Both uninformed and out of touch airheads. The only difference in those two is one wears glasses and one does not.

Spent 15 minutes on Politifact website looking for any of its remarks cited by George Stephanopoulos relating to Michele Bachmann’s Founding Father slavery comments. It may be buried in there somewhere, but you’d think that GS making national news on the item that it would easily found. Why? Well read this today and it sounds credible. It’s possible that neither GS or MB had this much knowledge on the subject, but why is GS exerting so much effort to deride a Republican woman while giving a pass to Obama and all the ridiculous remarks by Dems? Americans, are you paying attention to the dangerous DOUBLE STANDARD with which these media intellectual-elites are saturating you? It’s a nasty business, but Stephanopoulos could manage to be a lot more fair and professional. Where is your conscience man? When you die, do you think all your prevarication is meaningless? It may be, but you tread dangerously my friend…

I watched President Obama this noontime. He didn’t have anything substantive to say either. Politicians all have a malady which makes them unable to make intelligible statements. All off them are adept at skating around issues and not really answering specific questions. One of these days they will stop their perpetual campaigning and actually start to pay attention to heir jobs.

She gets it all from God. Same as Palin. Only in America.

The more republicans enter the race for 2012..Obama will win.I can’t wait for the primaries.Then we’ll see the real dirt dishing.Just watch the republicans turn on each other.It’s going to be a blood bath.

What about these parts of the Constitution from the Founding Fathers, Michelle:
Section 9 of Article I allowed the continued “importation” of slaves;
Section 2 of Article IV prohibited the provision of assistance to escaping persons and required their return if successful;
Section 2 of Article I defined other persons as “three-fifths” of a person for calculations of each state’s official population for representation and federal taxation.;
Article V prohibited any amendments or legislation changing the provision regarding slave importation until 1808, thereby giving the States then existing a 20 year pass to keep up their bustling slave trade.

Actually, she was very much correct. At least some of the founding fathers worked very hard to stop the spread of slavery, setting up the conditions as best they could for the eventual end of slavery. They were forced to make many compromises with the southern states in order to get the Constitution approved, and to get the United States off the ground, but anyone who does not know that a majority of the founders opposed slavery, and hoped for its eventual extinction, does not know history. Study Lincoln’s words on the proposals to expand slavery, when HE invoked the founders general opposition to slavery in support of his opposition to the attempt to expand slavery to the territories.
So, George, will you and Politifact (really George, you think Politifact is a neutral site, or that the Pulitzer is still a sign of quality?) now admit YOU were wrong, and Bachmann was right? Or are you just a hack?

Can anyone be that stupid..Stepanopolis gave her the perfect out to say Oh really, I thought he was a founding father…no…she insisted her facts are correct like she has in the past. there is no hope for someone who cannot see their own errors. It seems the tea party likes to quote Consititution, Liberty, Founding Fathers and yet they really don’t have a clue what it is all about. They think they do and if that time is the time they want to go back to..why is it they have tried 24 times to change things about the Consitition. If they love it so and quote it so, why does it seem to need so many changes, the 14, 16 and 17 ammendments and others. 24 different things they want to change about it….I like it just the way it is and if they are so God and Country…they should also. Phonies all of them.

Quite frankly, Roger Ailes is getting tired of Palin because she does not listen. If she is running, she should be off her show but of course, things do not apply to her..she thinks. What is it about the two women who want to be president? I know we have better, smarter, and more intelligent women in this country….this cannot be our only choice. Bring back Hillary save us from stupidity.

It’s amazing that the Liberal Press; ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN et.al. can’t be bothered spreading the goofs; misstatements; half truths etc., of The One, but when a a conservative makes the slightest misstep they are all over it like white on rice. When a conservative gives a good solid answer to a question they can’t accept that but keep trying to make arguments out of small points taken out of context al la, George Stephenopoulos, Diane Sawyer,
Bob Schieffer, Ann Curry, Matt Lauer to name a few. You all take your talking points from the same kind of document; in this case, “Politifacs” but you never check to see how your hero is rated in the same document…and if you do check, you never get around to pinning him down on any of his falsehoods, half-falsehoods and misstatements. No! when you DO confront his Oneness you give him milk and pablum questions that he can easily answer without a writer and a telepromter!

the big problem here is not what or how she say’s things it’s the fact that she speaks of herself being a lawyer. i will not vote for any….i said any lawyer who runs for any thing…nothing nada no way. if your a lawyer you will not get my vote. you are the reason we are in this mess. lawyers the scum of the earth and lower than whale excrement…and that is on the bottom of the ocean.

Jefferson wanted to include an end to slavery clause in our constitution but the southern states would not sign the declaration if the paragraphs on slavery were included. John Quincy Adams was a young boy during the revolution, and at ten he travelled with europe with has father, and studied there as well. Maybe we should call him a founding teen ager, but he was a lot closer to the truth of those times than George S. was.

The difference between an Obama gaffe and Bachmmann: Obama says “57 states” and when asked about it later that day, he admits the mistake. Everybody moves on, no need for the media to cover it because it’s a non-story.
If Bachmann, when she made the original statement about founding fathers and slavery months ago, would have simply done the same thing and recognized the error it would have been a non-story, it wouldn’t be coming up. But Bachmann won’t do that, she’d rather try to convince you she was correct. Had Bachmann made the 57 state gaffe, today she’d be telling you that Puerto Rico was in a “state of limbo” because on one hand it’s a country, on the other hand it’s a US territory. She’d come up with 6 more ridiculous ways to word things and she’d tell us “see, I was right, there are 57 states.”

Stupid Stupid Stupid

THIS BACHMANN…IS REALLY EMBARRASSING.
AND THEY JUST KEEP PUTTING HER ON THE AIR.

The Quincy Adams thing is a gaffe… but for the record, you are very wrong about her general comments about the founders, the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence… it’s a series of factually wrong statements on your part and you had the advantage of setting the agenda and the opportunity to study / researching your statements ahead of time. None the less, you mischaracterized the position of the founders.
I know that two of the three slave owning founders you mentioned… were against slavery and worked to limit it.. I don’t know the stand of the third, I just have not heard (and or can not remember) his stance. Slavery was debated at the convention and resulted in various compromises to limit its spread.

I can’t believe there is a republican candidate that scares me more then the fear I had about Sarah Palin in 2008.

I personally think that this woman is dreaming and those who does not understand politic are supporting her views some how. But it is wrong to support someone because she or he is from your party. I am an independence, but the congress woman will not win the nomination from her party with such talks and incompetency in political affairs. she need to change her views on how she present herself because politic really need balancing in the opinions and give others credits for what they have accomplished. President Obama has done alot,although the unemployment is still a measure from problem for most Americans including myself. I just graduated last year and I still do not have a job now, but I am not blaming President Obama because we were already in recession before he became a president and I think that he is trying his best. However, if there is anyone who you think is going to create jobs faster than president Obama. Go for it because that is what americans need today.

I wouldn’t think she was so dumb if she would own up to her mistakes and just move on. When she (and others) make a mistake in regard to history, or anything for that matter, she wouldn’t lose their credibility if she just said that she misspoke but meant that the son of our founding father. Instead, she begins to argue that she was right which makes you wonder what she would do if she was in the Whitehouse. She would scream that some other countries has “weapons of mass destruction” and put us into another war that someone else is going to be left to clean up.

Ms Bachmann’s claim about the Founding Fathers’ elimination of slavery is, if anything, even more flawed and fatuous than her misplacement of John Quincy Adams in the deliberations on the adoption of the Constitution.
The issue of slavery was simply too contentious to be resolved during the Constitutional Convention. As in many of the issues debated there, a compromise was reached as the cost of keeping Georgia and South Carolina agreeable to the Constitution. As a result, the original Constitution contain four provisions allowing slavery to continue for at least the next 20 years, and potentially in perpetuity.
Section 9 of Article I allowed the continued “importation” of such persons, Section 2 of Article IV prohibited the provision of assistance to escaping persons and required their return if successful and Section 2 of Article I quantified “other persons” — i.e., slaves — as “three-fifths” of a person for calculations of each state’s official population for representation and federal taxation.
Most important, Article V prohibited any amendments or legislation changing the provision regarding slave importation until 1808, thereby giving the States then existing at least 20 years to resolve this issue. However, while it addressed the slave trade from Africs, nothing in Article V in any way created a “sunset period” for the inhuman institution of slavery in the United States, and it persisted into and through the Civil War years.

Posted by: Danno | Jun 28, 2011 4:43:09 PM
“The 3/5ths Compromise was not an attempt to end slavery as much as it was an early attempt to limit its growth and keep the fragile unity”
That is an opinion but if you look at look at the words of people on both sides of that from the period; they all realized it was a long view attempt to abolish it. One of several successful attempts to marginalize it… in a growing country.

Hey Georgie, when will you ask Obama why he was nominated by Communist Bill Ayers at his home? A known terrorist, that bombed Americans? When will you ask why Obama was friends with criminal slum lord Tony Rezko? When will you ask why Rezko’s wife helped the Obamas get a slick deal for their house in Chicago?
CORRUPT MUCH GEORGIE????? You’re nothing but biased hacks, all of you. The media today fails! You’re more corrupt than the politicians because you carry their water for them! Millions out of work! Trillions in debt! And ABC refuses to report the whole truth about Obama. Multi-million dollar paid-for propagandist. You might as well be ABC-Pravda. Thats all you are anymore these days, just yes men for BigGov. To hell with ABC/Disney. And their advatisors. I am sick of giving my money to anyone that supports tthis fake bs anymore. And there are millions like me.

George–You just broadcast (on June 30) the president saying his daughter is 13. She is 12 years old. Not a word from you. How much ridicule would you have had publicly for Michelle Bachmann making the same error about her own minor child’s age?

George Stephanopoulos calls President Lincoln a liar:
“..you said that the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery. Now with respect Congresswoman, that’s just not true.” – Snuffy
“In 1784, three years before the Constitution – the United States then owning the Northwestern Territory, and no other, the Congress of the Confederation had before them the question of prohibiting slavery in that Territory; and four of the “thirty-nine” who afterward framed the Constitution, were in that Congress, and voted on that question. Of these, Roger Sherman, Thomas Mifflin, and Hugh Williamson voted for the prohibition, thus showing that, in their understanding, no line dividing local from federal authority, nor anything else, properly forbade the Federal Government to control as to slavery in federal territory. The other of the four – James M’Henry – voted against the prohibition, showing that, for some cause, he thought it improper to vote for it.
In 1787, still before the Constitution, but while the Convention was in session framing it, and while the Northwestern Territory still was the only territory owned by the United States, the same question of prohibiting slavery in the territory again came before the Congress of the Confederation; and two more of the “thirty-nine” who afterward signed the Constitution, were in that Congress, and voted on the question. They were William Blount and William Few; and they both voted for the prohibition – thus showing that, in their understanding, no line dividing local from federal authority, nor anything else, properly forbids the Federal Government to control as to slavery in Federal territory. This time the prohibition became a law, being part of what is now well known as the Ordinance of ’87.
The question of federal control of slavery in the territories, seems not to have been directly before the Convention which framed the original Constitution; and hence it is not recorded that the “thirty-nine,” or any of them, while engaged on that instrument, expressed any opinion on that precise question.
In 1789, by the first Congress which sat under the Constitution, an act was passed to enforce the Ordinance of ’87, including the prohibition of slavery in the Northwestern Territory. The bill for this act was reported by one of the “thirty-nine,” Thomas Fitzsimmons, then a member of the House of Representatives from Pennsylvania. It went through all its stages without a word of opposition, and finally passed both branches without yeas and nays, which is equivalent to a unanimous passage. In this Congress there were sixteen of the thirty-nine fathers who framed the original Constitution. They were John Langdon, Nicholas Gilman, Wm. S. Johnson, Roger Sherman, Robert Morris, Thos. Fitzsimmons, William Few, Abraham Baldwin, Rufus King, William Paterson, George Clymer, Richard Bassett, George Read, Pierce Butler, Daniel Carroll, James Madison.
This shows that, in their understanding, no line dividing local from federal authority, nor anything in the Constitution, properly forbade Congress to prohibit slavery in the federal territory; else both their fidelity to correct principle, and their oath to support the Constitution, would have constrained them to oppose the prohibition.
In the language of Mr. Jefferson, uttered many years ago, ‘It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such slow degrees, as that the evil will wear off insensibly; and their places be, pari passu, filled up by free white laborers. If, on the contrary, it is left to force itself on, human nature must shudder at the prospect held up.’ ” – Abraham Lincoln, New York, New York, February 27, 1860

Not one of the comments that I have read refers to the probable origin of the gaffe. Do you remember who came first, John Adams or John Quincy Adams? John Adams, JQ’s father was a key founding father and the second President of the United States. John Quincy Adams the 6th President was an active aide to his father well before he was 20 and traveled widely as an assistant. Whether she got the “Who Came First” order backwards as I suspect, I have to wonder why y’all and this writer didn’t nitpick Obama’s gaffes near as much.

It would be nice if there there was a candidate who knew what they were talking about and was interested in representing a the American people rather than just getting attention. There was a phrase I once heard about polishing “something” and trying to sell it. These posers who think we will believe these lame explanations for their ignorant statements would be laughable if it was not for the importance of the office they are trying to bluff their way into.
I have never seen the electoral process be as silly as this one is becoming. Did Bush’s successes encourage this sort of farce?

George:
Get a life and quit making such a big deal over nothing. I don’t remember you questioning the BIG “O” on 57 states or numerous other gaffes? Lets try to be a little fair and quit your partisan attacks. I respected you when you were on “This Week”, but have failed to see that same fairness on GMA.

She is an obvious fake. She danced around every question. Not my opinion it is a fact just listen to or read this. OMG, what kind of idiot can take her seriously. It is really getting scary in this country when a women like this can fake her way into actually running for President. Take our country back, yey, from these types of fakes who are running due to being bought and paid for by whomever the lobbyists are working for. Take this country back, from who Michele, from fairness for all? You just care about big business and it is so obvious. We do need to “TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!” From Big Business and their rich friends and for hire politicians like you.

Michele knows that those who follow her are for the most part uneducated thus will believe anything that she says, for example;THELOYALOPPOSITION stated…” the “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” clause used to say “and property”, but they removed that to protect against future wramgling over the slave issue!! — George isn’t as smart as he is boorish!!!for one thing, this clause isn’t in the constitution it is in the ” Bill of Rights”

I bet that if you gave Obama a ten question test on 18th century American History he couldn’t get half the questions correct.
POSTED BY: ALLEN | JUN 28, 2011 9:17:20 AM How would you know if his answers were correct I doubt that you could pass the test, on the other hand Michele would say anything and swear she is correct.

The republican party is becoming more and more of a dangerous organization to the health and welfare of this country… With their attacks on women choice, the elderly, public education and minorities, it’s no wonder this women is so clueless as to the history of this country…. The founding fathers did nothing to end slavery considering they all pretty much owned slaves…. John Quincy Adams was NOT a founding father, I don’t care how much spinning you righties are doing…

George…most of the founding fathers were anti slavery and ACTUALLY DID TRY TO STOP IT….this was a well known fact BEFORE the progressives started influencing what is in the history books. They have tausght our students more anti AMERICAN HISTORY THAN WHAT IS ACTUALLY THE BEST ABOUT AMERICA….that is what is wrong now,why everyone is rubbing their heads wondering what has happen to our country…the progressives are the problem and until we get them OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS AND GOVERNMENT ,aMERICA WILL NEVER BE RIGHT AGAIN…I’M NOT talking about “progress” but the 1960′s progressive anti americanism.These are people such as Bill Ayers and others….look them up and progressivism in America…..

Sadly Michelle Bachmann is continuing on with her lying streak. I have never seen a politician lie as much as she does, except for Sarah Palin. Both seem to think they need to make so many crazy statments just to receive press coverage, and so many have been verified as false. Unfortunately doing such, just ruins their reputation and credibility.

This is all nonsense. What about Obama saying he visited 57 states. And Biden told Katie Couric that when the stock market crashed in 1929, FDR went on television to talk to the American people to keep them calm. Hoover was President in 1929 not FDR, and we didn’t have television yet. They are all silly mistakes, but are Michele Bachmann’s somehow so bad she isn’t qualified to run for President? If that is the case, Obama and Biden should both resign. Good grief, Obama doesn’t even know how old his own children are.
Where were you then George? Democrats haven’t won yet – don’t pass out those cigars just yet George.

It is amazing how so many of the commentators of this article,including George, are painting Bachman as uneducated because she made a gaffe about the details of history. True as a gov. representative she should pick her references carefully,but I wonder how many nay-sayers on here would be EQUALLY mistaken if ask questions??? Adams was not a signer but every bit involved in the making of theis country and the convention of 1776…as was Jefferson,albiet he was not sweating over the actual framing of the constitution. It is a matter of what one call a “founding” father…George I guess learned well from Clinton…as for slavery,many,many founding fathers may have “owned” salves but loathed salvery and treated their slaves respectfully…all you that point your fingers are as hypocritical as ,the “do as I say,but not as I do” mentality of Obama and the leftist progressive party of socialism . DOn’t be smugg,people are so sick of being ran over,lied to,the bad economy,promises not kept and the fact that Obama is destroying our country will ultimately END OBAMA’S REIGN OF DESTRUCTION.

Stephanopoulos tried to smear the whole country as deeply racist from its inception. That is just not true. For example, Benjamin Franklin was a strong abolitionist – as were many others.
There were and are racists – of many colors. People from the Northeast and West have a long tradition of valuing and promoting equality. I think Wyoming was the first state to give women the vote – progressive. Smearing the entire country as racist and backward is just wrong.

Michelle..instead of trying to find the president a job..how about getting an education. Your many gaffs are so bad and it makes you look dumb. If this president loses the presidency he will find other things to do and will probably do as Clinton is doing helping others all over the world…and when this is done..you will still be dumb and certainly not in the white house.

George,
Get your history straight. Thomas Jefferson was an exception, not the rule. The overwhelming majority of our founders fathers were ant-slavery and did work tiredly to end slavery.
Back to school Georgie Boy. Spend more time on what your boy Obama is doing to this country. You have been educated in a system that attacks traditional American institutions, values and heroes.

How do such intellectual lightweights believe they have the stuff presidents are made of?
How about some self-awareness? Not everyone has the grey-matter to lead a country.
Was it the self-actualization movement of the 70′s? Why are people like Bachmann so delusional?

Michele Bachmann is not an intellectual in the Gingrich mold. But her high-octane tea party candidacy hyas energized an enormous number of people, who are unlikely to be impressed with the holes poked in her arguments. Foolish philosophers, the might say.
Candadai Tirumalai

Sarah Palin & Michele Bachmann in 2012 What a great ticket that would be. It would save us all from watching any of these horrific debates and constant barrage of advertisements. It would be all over quickly.