Romney: ‘If You Want to Learn More About My Church, Talk to My Church’
ABC News' Emily Friedman (@EmilyABC) reports:
In an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan, the second part of which aired tonight on the network, presidential candidate Mitt Romney pushed back against the host's questions about how his Mormon faith might influence his policy should he win the White House in 2012.
Asked whether it's actually possible to separate his faith from his job as president should he be elected, Romney responded, "Absolutely. You don't begin to apply doctrines of a religion to the responsibility of guiding a nation or guiding a state."
Romney explained that he opposes abortion rights and that he is in favor of gay rights but believes that marriage should be a union between a man and a woman. Morgan pressed him on what the Mormon church says about gay rights, asking, "What is the Mormon position on homosexuality being a sin?"
"I'm not a spokesman for my church," Romney responded.
"But don't you know?" Morgan interrupted.
"I'm not a spokesman for my church. And one thing I'm not going to do in running for president is become a spokesman for my church or apply a religious test that is simply forbidden by the constitution, I'm not going there," Romney said. "If you want to learn about my church, talk to my church."
Unrelenting, Morgan went on asking Romney, "Well, do you personally think homosexuality is a sin?"
"Nice try, but I'm not going to get into that," Romney said.
"I'm not here in a religious context, I'm here as a candidate for president, and as a candidate for president or as a president I have to represent the interests of all the people," he said.
Romney's wife Ann joined him for the later part of the interview, during which Morgan joked that at least the couple's Mormon faith eliminates the risk of scandal during their quest for the White House. Romney says he has only tried alcohol once and has never used drugs. He also has never had an extramarital affair, he told Morgan.
"This is one of your trump cards, the one thing we don't have to worry about is something tumbling out of the cupboard," said Morgan, alluding to the most recent political scandal involving Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y.
"Better not," replied Ann Romney, laughing.
Watch part of the interview from CNN here:
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He gave a very good answer,now what if Obama would have said this ????
Posted by: Raymond | June 7, 2011, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
This is ridiculous. JFK was a seriously devout Catholic, and was and is looked at like royalty in terms of his patriotism and defending of the American ideal. Romney is no different, and by far the most qualified to tackle our economy. Barack has completely limped in the hour need, done nothing, and offered no reprieve. At least Romney has a plan—and he’s a candidate. It’s about time we dropped our obsession with sensationalism, get over the fact he’s Mormon (who cares? I don’t care!), and vote for a qualified president. I’m a liberal conversative, and a conservative liberal, and Romney’s got my vote.
Posted by: Taylor | June 8, 2011, 1:16 am 1:16 am
I agree Taylor! This country has very serious problems and President Obama has gone against his word far too many times and in my opinion…is frankly overwhelmed by running the country. He is not up to the task. Before he sinks us, we need to turn over the reigns to an experienced businessman with a sound plan that is not embarrassed for the country he leads. President Obama has noble intentions I’m sure, but his policies are just plain wrong for our capitalistic structure in this country. I’m worried this country won’t survive another four years under Obama’s direction.
Posted by: Ray | June 8, 2011, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Ann was lovely on the show. I just love her. She definitely brings out the best in Romney. He would be a terrific president.
Posted by: Jay | June 8, 2011, 6:05 am 6:05 am
Romney’s stance on subjects depends upon which way the political wind is blowing any given day. Flip-flop Mitt.
Posted by: Rockagain | June 8, 2011, 8:13 am 8:13 am
ROTFL Oh rockagain, you poor soul. You want to talk about “flip floppers”? Please tell me about Senator Obama in campaign mode versus President Obama.
Posted by: Kate | June 8, 2011, 9:04 am 9:04 am
People attacked Obama for his religious affiliation with the Trinity church of Chicago, which is far less racist than the Mormon church.
Now Mitt isn’t going to disavow his relationship with his church, yet Obama had to in order to get some of your votes. Keep in mind Rev. Wright didn’t preach hatred against whites, he preached his anger towards racism that had been swept under the rug. People never watched his entire sermons, just the snippets taken out of Sherrod context.
This is baloney that we would let Mitt get a pass when his Mormon church STILL has, in it’s doctrine, racist
Please, if you don’t believe me, read it for yourself, keyword on a search, “Mormon racism doctrine”. It’s STILL there, Mormonism still makes it look like black people and their skin color are still associated to CAIN from the Bible!
Come on!
There is no way I am voting for him. That cannot be representative in our Commander in Chief, no matter what.
Posted by: David | June 8, 2011, 10:11 am 10:11 am
I think Romney gave a very good answer to Morgan. Liberals will do anything now to try and trap the Conservative candidates. Separation of church & state should be in place. I wonder how Obama would’ve answered this question, or if the question would’ve even been asked. Probably not. Doesnt matter, Obama is toast next year.
Posted by: Jogger | June 8, 2011, 10:26 am 10:26 am
I agree with the previous posters, I don’t think America can stand another four years of Obama. He has basically destroyed and defamed this great country. Romney’s religious stance should not be a factor. Obama’s religious stance was a factor because his pastor preached against America and the values Americans uphold. I like Romney. I hope he wins the GOP nomination and chooses Gov. Perry from Texas as a running mate. That would be an awesome ticket. Obama will not be reelected in 2012.
Posted by: Mary | June 8, 2011, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Rev. Wright did not preach against the values that America upheld.
Unless you are talking about white supremacy, Jim Crow laws, and things like that.
Please, go back and find a Rev. Wright sermon where he preached against the values America upheld, and tell me ONE.
Now before you reply and say “I won’t waste my time” or something like that… realize this:
Rev. Wright preached against America’s own betrayal of the values (Constitution, equality, freedom) of which he stood for.
Posted by: David | June 8, 2011, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Oh and Mary,
Mormon doctrine (which has more weight than any pastor) has stuff that goes against America’s values:
1. Equality between the races
2. Marriage for ONE man and ONE woman
3. People of any racial, cultural, ethnic, or economic background, even if different from one another should marry with the full support of our society (not be discouraged as the Mormon church does).
4. One nation under GOD (not gods)
Posted by: David | June 8, 2011, 11:23 am 11:23 am
David you poor soul, get a grip. Good sound bites for you, but completely out of context.
Posted by: Setaf | June 8, 2011, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Romney does not know anything about his church to tell anybody anything? He must be a clueless, naive, blind follower. Is this the man we want for the presidency?
Posted by: what667 | June 8, 2011, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
I agree with the previous posters, I don’t think America can stand another four years of Obama. He has basically destroyed and defamed this great country. Romney’s religious stance should not be a factor. Obama’s religious stance was a factor because his pastor preached against America and the values Americans uphold. I like Romney. I hope he wins the GOP nomination and chooses Gov. Perry from Texas as a running mate. That would be an awesome ticket. Obama will not be reelected in 2012.
POSTED BY: MARY | JUN 8, 2011 10:30:56 AM________Keep dreaming!
Posted by: what667 | June 8, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Hmm… he evaded the question which at this juncture is the proper thing to do but it will come up again and he is going to have to answer it. I’ve always liked Romney but in my view he is just Obama light. I’ll stick with what we have…
But two things I find odd here; 1)”he is in favor of gay rights but believes that marriage should be a union between a man and a woman.” So, how does he define gay rights? 2)Some of you posters who would dismiss Romney’s church affiliation were the same ones that lambasted the President over his church affiliation.
These things perplex me….
Posted by: MyTakeOnThis61 | June 8, 2011, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
@David – I dont know where you get your information, but you are in fact wrong. I am Mormon, and we do not believe that black people are associated with Cain from the Bible. We believe in equality between all races, we believe in marriage between one man and one woman, we do not believe in polygamy, we believe in interracial marriages, and we believe in God the father, his son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
I have been a member all my life, I have friends who have married inter-racially with no problem from the church, in fact having a bishop marry them.
As Romney said, if you want to know about his church, then talk to his church. Dont make stuff up, or believe everything you read on the internet.
Posted by: Erick | June 8, 2011, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
I remember when Romney dressed up like a hunter and posed for pictures in order to appeal ot outdoorsmen. Romney is one of the biggest hypocrites ever.
Posted by: pt | June 8, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
@mytakeonthis – I see where your going with this, I think I heard Romney say that as far as gay rights goes, he thinks they should have civil unions, and have protection under the law, and insurance and everything else, but the term marriage should be used for a Man and a Woman only.
I want more on this as well, but I think I heard him say something down those lines.
Posted by: Erick | June 8, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I agree with those that say his religion should not matter. Just like I don’t care about the religious beliefs of other candidates. My favorite statement from article above is: “You don’t begin to apply doctrines of a religion . . . of guiding a nation or guiding a state.” Absoulutely!!! So next time we hear a candidate say while campaigning, “I am a follower of Jesus Christ”. Our collective response should be, “Who cares!!” In fact I ignore any candidate from any party who tries to use his/her religion for political gain.
Posted by: Jim | June 8, 2011, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
USA will never elect a Mormon, we have a better chance of electing a Scientologist. Besides Mitt Romney will flip flop on anything, especially when he faces the cool, calm and collected Obama.
Posted by: Don | June 8, 2011, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
ROMNEY IS A LOSER WHO HAS BEEN UNEMPLOYED FOR 7 YEARS AND WANTS TO PRETEND HE HAS THE POWER TO CREATE JOBS.
Posted by: swl2010 | June 8, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
“”You don’t begin to apply doctrines of a religion . . . of guiding a nation or guiding a state.”
Ah… but you do, and many do take that into account. I remember reading about Mr. Bush’s agonizing decision (“Decision Points”) regarding stem cell research and his belief of “right to life.” Apparently he did weigh it quite carefully but it was his religious belief that led to the stem cell policy of which he initiated. I’m not sitting in judgement of his policy or belief. I’m just pointing out that a person’s beliefs can and do affect policy. I don’t think Romney would be any different.
Posted by: MyTakeOnThis61 | June 8, 2011, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“”"cool, calm and collected Obama.”"”
Posted by: Don
Obama is going to be drilled in debates. He can kick out a good speech, but he lacks the ability to think on his feet. Newt will smoke him in a debate and Romney will too!
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
MyTakeOnThis61 | Jun 8, 2011 12:47:32 PM
“Right to life” isn’t necessarily a religious belief. I am not religious at all and I find it odd that a person can’t take their own life legally, but we can kill unborns all we want. We might as well have a suicide pill and an abortion pill and make this all a little easier. What do you think?
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
MyTakeOnThis61 | Jun 8, 2011 12:47:32 PM
I wonder how much money our country could save with a simply suicide pill? It’s not a bad way to “thin out the herd”.
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I applaud Mitt on his skill with the media. Saying just the right things with just the right care. He’s one smooth operator, I tell ya.
But in the end, he’s the wrong kind of Christian and he’s far too liberal for the typical GOP financial backer.
On the other hand, he has the will-bending, pocket picking, wealth of the morman church to help his campaign.
That’s got to count for something.
Posted by: KsDevil | June 8, 2011, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
The Constitution forbids religious tests for public office, so Romney’s religious beliefs are irrelevant- or should be irrelevant. However, Romney should be disqualified as a serious candidate because he is hypocritical and deluded.
Romney is hypocritical in that he says he believes in promoting stable families, marriage and “American values,” yet he is against upholding marriage rights for gays and lesbians. He is hypocritical also in that he says he believes in separation of religion and the state, yet he has promoted government enforcment of a ban on gay and lesbian marriage and bans on abortion.
Romney is deluded because he says “Obama has failed,” and that Obama’s actions to help the economy failed, when they did not fail. The loans, stimulus and other economic strategies implemented by the Obama administration prevented the economy from being even worse off then it is now, according to experts. There is no evidence to suggest that Obama’s actions made the economy worse, as Romney claims. Romney is also deluded in refusing to believe in evolution. The evidence proving evolution is overwhelming- anyone who denies this is not intelligent and unbiased enough to be president.
Posted by: NorthernHarrier | June 8, 2011, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Progressives can’t have it both ways…. Conservatives were called “racists” and “haters” when they asked how the Rev Wright’s Black Liberation Theology might have affected Obama!! —- So are you going to continue to ask Romney about his religion?
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | June 8, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
NorthernHarrier | Jun 8, 2011 1:03:10 PM
You are incorrect. Since the stimulus ran its course, we are back to higher unemployment, a weaker dollar and a much higher deficit. Couple that with another war and Obama’s not even batting .100. Think again.
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
i don’t understand the people who are saying that religion doesn’t/shouldn’t matter. i’m assuming those saying this are republicans and supporters of romney. why, then, have you allowed your party leaders and wanna-be leaders to bring up the president’s supposed muslim religion and/or his attendence at rev. wright’s methodist church in chicago? taylor, jogger – can you answer this?
Posted by: GoHexYourself | June 8, 2011, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I can appreciate someone who wants to keep it seperate as I am not religious and do not give a rat’s behind if you believe in some holier than thou power. I want someone who can direct us to fiscal sanity and downsize our presence throughout the world as a start. If our government shows us they can be fiscally responsible, I would lead the charge for raising taxes.
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Good answers but just wait until the conservative right gets a hold of him. Maybe if the Republicans didn’t run a ticket of hate with the likes of Palin…they could win. Still…I’m not counting on it.
Posted by: drake | June 8, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Ken Dahl —- I would say it would be very difficult… even for regular church-goers… to come up with the exact tenets of their denomination! —- And many times the “national” organization differs from how the “locals” handle things! —- Of course Romney has expected the question of his faith… and has decided that this is the way he is going to handle it! — Where I think he will need to open up is when they ask him for his PERSONAL stance on issues such as abortion and gay rights… not how his CHURCH stands! — He has no responsibility to speak for his church!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | June 8, 2011, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I don’t believe Romney for one second.
Posted by: Jenn | June 8, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It is not the Liberals who fear Romney. We are not fans of his stance on abortion, acknowledge that his state health plan was the basis of the national plan now under court review. The ones who fear him the most are the “Christian” right who do not believe that Mormons are Christian and who feel that ANY diversion from what they deem the “true path” is bad. He will not get their support unless he has the nomination with a Tea Party VP – then he loses the election. He is caught no matter what he says.
Posted by: kay | June 8, 2011, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I wonder if he wears the magic Mormon underwear. You know, the ones that are supposed to protect you from fire, flood, nuclear disaster, etc.
Posted by: ramp613 | June 8, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
NorthernHarrier, what does the location of the Garden of Eden have to do with a Presidential Campaign, anyway?
Also, in giving the true name of the Mormon Church, you made the same omission that most do, who are trying to sway people against the Church — you left out the most important part of the name, which is The Church of Jesus Christ [of Latter-day Saints].
Saints is a term used for members of Christ’s church, and the term, Latter-day, is used to distinguish the restored, present day church from the original church, that fell into apostasy after the apostles (who were its governing officers), were killed, and was not again found on earth until these latter-days, when Joseph Smith was chosen by the Lord to restore his Church, (with His Apostles and other officers, that were in His original Church) back to earth again.
Posted by: Moracle | June 8, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Of course homosexuality is a sin, let’s move on.
Posted by: EdwardJ | June 8, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I gotta say, I know liberals don’t like mitt romney because he’s a republican, but behind the hoopla, he would do an excellent job at creating job growth and establishing better guidlines for making businesses prosper.
Posted by: eddie | June 8, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Being a sodomite is absolutely a sin in every religion. Why do you think homosexuals attack religion at every chance?
Posted by: Janet asmere | June 8, 2011, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
and yet – Romney was one of those who insinuated that President Obama’s “possible” Muslim affiliation would open the doors to sharia law replacing the Constitution.
both ways, Mitt? can you spell “hypocrite”?
Posted by: bajacalla | June 8, 2011, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
@Erick – what you say about blacks is true NOW in the LDS, but that wasn’t so in the ’60s and ’70s. protesters at sports events (when BYU had *no* African-American players) were incensed that the “prophet” justified no black players because, as descendants of Cain, they couldn’t hold full temple membership, therefore couldn’t play for the “official church university team.”
Posted by: bajacalla | June 8, 2011, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
The left questions Romney and call him a hypocrite. The right questions Obama and the left calls the right racists.
Left=hypocritical losers
Posted by: Allen | June 8, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Gladys Knight is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (mormon church). There is a site called dedicated to the contributions of African Americans to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (mormon church).
Because mormons were not slaveholders, they were viewed with suspicion by their Southern neighbors during the 18th century.
Posted by: kel | June 8, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
For those who are interested in true, factual information about the teachings and doctrine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). You will find it at
(where you can get answers to your questions).
If you want information about State Farm, would you go to Allstate?
By the same token, If you want information about the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), isn’t it best go there?
Posted by: Moracle | June 8, 2011, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
You know…I feel really sorry for Mitt. He is a decent guy who will never get the “fringe right vote” of the GOP and he constantly has to “defend” his religious background. I guess that is what happens when a “decent human being” chooses the WRONG POLITICAL PARTY. LOL…LOL It is NOT toolate to change direction, Mitt. I did and am so very much happier because of it. The GOP has completely lost its way with its “protection of the richest” dogma. They thought they could the “dumbed down” of the grass roots to “play ball”…and LOL…that is not exactly what has occurred. That is what happens when you “pander” to the fanatic fringes (including religious wing nuts) and less educated element of this nation.
Posted by: CND FOX | June 8, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
If it comes down to Romney or Obama, I vote Romney.
Posted by: CommonSenseParty | June 8, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
For those who are interested in true, factual information about the teachings and doctrine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). You will find it at Mormon Dot Org
(where you can get answers to your questions).
If you want information about State Farm, would you go to Allstate?
By the same token, If you want information about the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), isn’t it best go there?
Posted by: Moracle | June 8, 2011, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Romney is the poster child of being everything any thing the voters of whatever time want him to be. He is the picture of Phoney! I like when he tried to our liberal on everything Ted Kennedy, Ted said, that Mit Romney is not prochoice or prolife he is mutichoice! that was priceless!
Posted by: Dabu | June 8, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Commonsenseparty,
I once debated a muslim on the Trinity outdoors in a heavily muslim neigborhood on the missionfield. Guess who they thought won! For some crowd, bumpersticker type cliche’s work. Romney can’t match the president 30% on substance but that is true of all conservatives. In an informed audience, who looks behind, Drill baby drill type of slogan, they might think Romney won … but …..pleeeeease……..
Posted by: Dabu | June 8, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I won’t even consider any conservative, I vote Obama! What else do I want? I can’t imagine a more competent president the US ever had like him since FDR.
Posted by: Zazu | June 8, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I won’t even consider any liberal, I vote Romney! I can’t imagine a more incompetent president the US ever had with Obama since Carter.
Posted by: Allen | June 8, 2011, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
He is “personally” against homosexual behavior because his choice was to marry his lovely bride and be faithful to her. Beyond that, everyone can make their own choice.
Posted by: Carl | June 8, 2011, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Romney is a liberal, he needs to run as a democrat.
Posted by: Sandy Lester | June 8, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Anybody would be better than obama…anybody, Mormon or not. Can we as a people actually endure another four years of this destroyer? Everything we love about America has been destroyed or he is trying to destroy, by obama: no more “shinnying city on a hill,” no more “work for what you get,” no more “the greatest country in the history of the world,” no more “get the government out of my life”…he is completely opposite of all these things, is completely opposite what our Founding Fathers fought and died for. My father fought in WWII and is sickened by this guy, my dad says all the time “I took a Japanese bayonet to my gut for this fool to treat my country like this?…If I would have ever thought it would come to this, I never would have fought in WWII.” If our public school system actually taught America’s real history, people would never have voted for obama. It is time that We the People take our country back…vote every liberal out of office, but more importantly, vote obama out and send him back to the soup lines with all the other socialist/communist and welfare recipients.
Posted by: Disco | June 9, 2011, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Come on. The LDS church regards alcohol and tabacco smoking as sinful. You don’t see any reporter asking if he’d be willing to ban alcohol and tabacco because his church calls them sinful. Such silly questions…
Posted by: Rickenrota | June 9, 2011, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Stop finding fault with another man’s religion, inclduing Obama or Romney or any man. A great many have shed blood to guarantee our freedoms including religious freedom. So stop throwing stones at another man’s rights. At least you won’t find someone under Romney’s desk disgracing the oval office. And you won’t find Romney tweeting pictures of himself to some lucy-goosey. This guy is no bafoon. He is an extremely smart business man with a seriously strong foundation of moral principle. Perhaps that scares a lot of people. To me that is refreshing indeed. We need that.
Posted by: Tom | June 9, 2011, 9:41 am 9:41 am
I am LDS and would not vote for Romney because he won’t answer questions about the LDS Church. I don’t look at someone’s relgion when I decide who to vote for, but if someone is asked what his or her church believes, he should not simply refuse to answer the question.
Posted by: Mike | June 9, 2011, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
My brother is married inter-racially and was a bishop in the Mormon church for 7-8 years. We have been members all our lives, and our doctrines have never changed. There have been some changes to policy, but never to doctrine. I applaud Mitt for standing up to Mr. Morgan and directing the interview to political issues, not the fact that he is a Mormon. Religion doesn’t play a part in my vote. I vote for the best American that can lead this country. Not for the most religious or for the person that promises things they cannot deliver. I dare anyone to take the reins of this country for 2 days and see how they do. The president doesn’t single-handedly run this country, it’s a team effort and there are TONS of things that need to change.
Posted by: Mrsbudr | June 9, 2011, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I liked his answers, as documented in this article. I’m an active member of the Church, and I think Mr. Romney would be a terrible president. I plan to vote in 2012 for the same candidate I voted for in 2008: President Barack Obama.
Posted by: BobF | June 9, 2011, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I’m pleased he doesn’t consider himself a spokesman … the church doesn’t flip-flop on issues like he does – for abortion one day and opposed the next, pandering to the gay agenda and opposed to it the next. Plus the church has made very strong statements in support of the constitution … voting for the bailouts leaves a very unconstitutional feel – stealing from the masses to enrich Wallstreet. Did I mention Romneycare’s mandatory provisions to buy Health Insurance? Okay I’ll quit and thank Mr. Romney, once again, for clarifying that he does NOT speak for the church.
Posted by: TimTay | June 9, 2011, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
It’s hard to believe that in this time of scandals, jerks, frauds, and liars, that this country would reject a man of integrity because of RELIGION! Just incredible.
Posted by: Karen | June 9, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Wake up! It doesn’t matter if it’s Romney or someone else, as long as they can bring us back from where this President is taking us. You need to get the emotion out of it and think logically, right now we need someone who truly understands the economy & the beacon that this country should represent to the world. Slogans, Eutopic concepts without a real step by step plan to get there & attempts to duplicate/replicate the great Dr.King’s style of influence (without the principles & moral strength) where amusing. But the facade is over & this very nice and likeable man (Obama)has used up his moment of truth in the spotlight. Time to get our greatness and country back. People, if its not Romney, than it should be someone who possesses many of his qualities. Now, before you respond to this—>REMEMBER, use logic, not emotion!
Posted by: Tback shanak | June 9, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
For those who feel Romney is just a “flip flopper” or doesn’t have any core – you need to do some DIRECT research and not just “listen to sound bites” that don’t provide you details. Why not read Romney’s book, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness”. If you were willing to read Obama’s book, shouldn’t you be willing do some research into Romney’s life and his core reasoning, too? Or would that take up too much of your time away from listening to more sound bites…
Get your information straight from horse’s mouth and stop asking the bookies how the horses are running. Same thing with Romney’s religion, check out http://www.mormon.org for a direct link to what they believe and don’t believe.
Posted by: JohnnyLingo62 | June 9, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“USA will never elect a Mormon”…exactly or a Women or a Black person…oh wait a minute… :-)
Posted by: Ron | June 9, 2011, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Kate I would like to ask for you to give one example of how The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is racist.
Did you know that the largest populations of the church are not located in the US? Most are located in Central and South America. There is a large membership of LDS members in Africa. In fact the church does much good works in those areas providing much needed resources, such as fresh water and ways to genrate power so they can have light in their homes at night. We do not believe that marriage between the sexs is a right and is supported in the Bible.
Please contact a local LDS church and request information or have a visit in your home with missionaries and learn something before you speak.
God Bless you.
Posted by: Lee | June 9, 2011, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
My dear friends that obviously know nothing about “Mormon” religion,
It is first called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Second it is not a racist religion. Their may be racist people that say they practice the religion but it is not in there hearts. God wants us to love everyone. Whether they be black, white, purple, gay, or straight. I have never met someone that I don’t love. I may not agree with their actions but I love them. That is all Mitt was trying to say. He has a good heart. The question should be “Is he right for president of our country?? ” I don’t know only time can tell. But as of right now all we need to be doing is talking about what every American can do for their county
Posted by: Shay | June 9, 2011, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Flip flop is the wrong word. He doesn’t change his mind about the facts or his opinions, he just omits them when they’re not relevant, as in this case. The US WILL elect a Mormon if he’s right for the seat. And Romney is showing everyone that he’s right for it because of his political and business experience, not because he’s Mormon. If anything, I’d want a Mormon on the seat because of his core values, keeping him from obviously demeaning scandals. If there was a non-religious organization that engendered that kind of public trust, I’d want one of them, too. But there is no organization that defines their chracacter in a way that I would automatically trust anyone who’s not religious. Society doesn’t teach good values, it only expects people to have them without religious influence. Dumb.
Posted by: Kristen | June 9, 2011, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
And as far as getting Mormon beliefs right, I am very familiar with Mormons, and no matter who you ask, their official website is the best place to get the right facts about what they believe and how their church runs AND how they apply their beliefs politically. That site is lds.org. I find it very useful. For example, here’s something some of you may find interesting.
FACT: The Mormon church never used their records for campaigning on Prop 8 in CA. They used city records lists and volunteered their time in their homes – never on church property or time. And I know plenty of Mormons who voted No on prop 8, so their church isn’t telling them how to vote.
They even made announcements in their congregations that they needed to make their own decision in that regard.
Lastly, anyone who thinks Mormons are racist or bigots, either don’t know any, or they know the lemons. Every church has them. Like catholic priests who get convicted of molesting children. You really think that they’re the ones who represent the Catholic church’s doctrine on sexuality? Please. Open your mind, and pay attention to what’s important.
Posted by: Kristen | June 9, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
@Erick, re: @mytakeonthis…I think you are headed down the right path. I am a mormon and marriage is a union between a man and a woman, I think what Romney is saying is that we are not to judge, even we don’t believe in their life style, they shouldn’t be stripped of rights to live as an equal human being.
While I believe in preserving the sanctity of marriage, I don’t believe in being mean to others who choose to live differently.
Everyone seems to be afraid to elect a “Mormon”, do they really think that as President he would have the power to force his religion on others? With our constitution and freedom of speech/religion, I think not. As far as him being a Mormon, I can only hope he will show the best character of himself, someone with integrity, a quality everyone should have, LDS or not!
Posted by: Jeana | June 9, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
The country isn’t voting for a religion, rather for an honest person who is without guile. That is, unfortunately, a rare quality, but one which Romney exhibits. It would be refreshing to be able to trust our President’s words and feel secure in his devotion and judgement regarding our nation and
all of it’s Constitutional precepts.
Posted by: Brooksie | June 9, 2011, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Better a Christian in the White House than a Marxist.
Posted by: Lynn Masterson | June 9, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Obama was elected despite his relation with Rev. Wright(who was taped saying G.D. America).Obama never distanced himself from Wright.I support Romney in saying there is a seperation between church and state.CNNs P Morgan must be one of the degenerate liberal press determined to destroy this country.
Posted by: Gary | June 9, 2011, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
I have been a Mormon most of my life and would expect Romney to have higher standards than most of the other candidates but would not vote for him just because he is Mormon. That would be just like voting for Obama just because he is black if I were black. We have to look at what they say they will do and hope they mean it.
Posted by: marlene | June 9, 2011, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
The USA needs a Mormon President. Mitt will put in place Christian Values in the WH. We now have a crooked Obama and a crooked Congress to go along with Obama on helping other countries. America needs financial help.
Posted by: Helena A | June 10, 2011, 12:50 am 12:50 am
If people will SHUT UP about Romney’s religion because they don’t know the truth. They speak because of hear-says that aren’t true. They should read the Book Of Mormon and the History of Joseph Smith and they will change their mind about the Mormon belief. Its strange they know everything about the Mormon Faith, but yet haven’t read the history of the truth. Its like a historical book dated back to the early BC’s and AD’s. The bom is truth!!!
Posted by: Helena A | June 10, 2011, 1:00 am 1:00 am
We have had Presidents of many different faiths and I have never seen such an uproar over the Church they attended. Romney has stated that if we want to know more about his Church, ask the Church. He is running for President, not sainthood. I love the fact that he loves and honors his country, and (by the way)the Mormon Church does encourage their members to honor their country and obey it’s laws, no matter what country you live in. Also, if a man cannot be faithful and honest to his wife, how can you trust him to be that to his country. Wouldn’t it be great to have an honest President for a change and one who will salute our flag without shame?
Posted by: Pat H | June 10, 2011, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
The upside of Mormonism is “clean living” without alcohol and tobacco. The downside is not allowing women and blacks to serve the church on the same level as white males. I rather like Romney, though he was born with a silver spoon, but unless he speaks out against and works to change the sexism and racism in his church, I could not possibly support him,
Posted by: Anne | June 10, 2011, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Romney did the right thing by refusing to discuss religious beliefs. That topic is a harmful distraction from the primary issues of jobs and the economy.
Posted by: Doug | June 10, 2011, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Mormons are nuts and believe in a completely ridiculous non-christian story made up by a known liar and who now is their false prophet!
never would i vote for a Mormon for president.
Not event Vice-President!!
Posted by: JeffC | June 10, 2011, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
At this point, Romney seems to be the best choice this country has. I grew up around Mormons; married and am divorced from a wonderful woman raised in the Mormon church. I have never nor will I ever be a Mormon (or any other main lain church) Though I disagree with (as much as I do the other churches) some of their religious beliefs, I have always been impressed with Mormon integrity aand work ethic. I voted for Obama because he was abetter choice than McCain. I will hoipefully be able to vote for Romny since he is abetter choice than Obama.
Posted by: Steve | June 10, 2011, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I’m still disconcerted by the fact that Romney was unwilling to answer a question about the church with which he is affiliated. If you asked JFK about catholicism, he certainly didn’t deflect the question. If Romney is incapable of answering such a basic question to which he clearly knows the answer for fear of it being used against him (he’s running for president, he’d better get used to it), it makes him seem like he’s paranoid and psychologically weak.
Posted by: PDmaia | June 10, 2011, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
The Gay question is not a matter of religion. It is a matter of equal rights and he needs to answer that.
And yes, every male Mormon in the priesthood is a spokesman for this cult.
You see them in pairs all over the world. It is one more fairy tale.
Ask him if religion should be taxed next time please.
Posted by: Rick Bangkok | June 10, 2011, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
A grown man who dodged Vietnam by pulling strings to extend his stay in Europe as a Mormon missionary can’t share his own witness of his own faith? Sounds as if he doesn’t have a relationship with G-d. No American man there worthy of our making him Elect…no “man” there, at all.
Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis | June 10, 2011, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I CANT BELIEVE THESE COMMENTS!
In the Bible, Paul said,For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.
Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship with the living God.
Christ Jesus said, ” You must be born again”.
These having been said , the bible also says ” in EVERYTHING ( my capitals) give thanks for that is the will of God concerning you , IN CHRIST JESUS.
So Christians are to continually give thanks and in my opinion, not using the name of our Lord which I have not seen in any of our Presidents, in daily speeches or talks, is wrong.
ROMNEY in NOT TAKING A STAND FOR CHRIST AND THE PRINCIPLES OF THE BIBLE AND HIS BELIEFS IS A COWARD.
Many may say that what he does in public and what he does in private are two separate things.
I disagree.
Posted by: LOU | June 11, 2011, 5:27 am 5:27 am
it’s impossible to vote for a mormon. all religions have examples of ridiculous beliefs and superstitions but mormonism is ‘beyond the pale’. if romney actually ‘believes’ the tenants of his religion then he is in no position to lead a nation like the usa. i don’t blame him for deferring on questions about his religion.
Posted by: grasspress | June 11, 2011, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I wonder if Mittens flip flops in his religious views as often as he does in his political ones? That’s probably why he doesn’t want to talk about his religion. He doesn’t even know what Mormons stand for.
Posted by: Marcello | June 11, 2011, 11:07 am 11:07 am
“Annuit Coeptis”: “divine Providence blesses our righteous endeavors,” not Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus, or Krishna. Only the Creator of the universe is G-d Almighty, “the King of America.”
The public naming of other “deity” is anti-Creed, sectarian factionalism: Treason.
Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis | June 11, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Can we say that some people are so desperate to get rid of a person of color running the country. They try to blame him for everything and say he has done nothing.
Can anyone imagine where we would be if they had elected McCain (left my wife for an heiress to buy political office and own several $$$$ homes) and Palin (I can see Alaska from my front yard)?
Your racism blind you to the truth.
Stop spinning and grabbing at straws and admit you can stand having a president that is not white.
Posted by: OG | June 11, 2011, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
The question, “Is America ready for a Mormon president?” is getting tiresome but all politicians – Mormon or otherwise – should be prepared to answer basic questions about the connection between religious and political views.
Mormons don’t hold it a sin to be gay but they do consider homosexual sex to be a grave sin. This is a bit of a sandbag for Romney, who must straddle two worlds. For medical science and a growing number of people, homosexuality is a naturally-occurring phenomenon, one that forces us to stop treating gay people as perverts.
At my house, it’s reality. One of my sons is gay, and he’s a top student, a popular personality and the kind of kid his mother and I can only look upon with unqualified love and pride.
Oh, and we’re Mormons.
Romney is going to get these questions. He thinks his best strategy is to dodge them. I think it’s better to face them head-on. Regardless of what people think about Mormons, and regardless of what they dig up about the LDS Church, Romney can always speak from the heart and say what he, himself, thinks on a subject.
If he keeps dodging questions, he’s going to end up looking like he’s hiding something. Voters don’t like politicians who dodge questions.
Posted by: Bill Kilpatrick | June 11, 2011, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
If the LDS church didn’t wish to JUST TAKE OVER then why would they spend millions in CA against Prop.8 and billions for missionaries around the world to convert just because they are sooo rich and strong. Jefferson said it all when he said that religion built this nation but could ultimately take all the best AWAY. The freedoms of the mind and heart are already destroyed by most religions and LDS is very near the top of the list!
Posted by: Old American | June 11, 2011, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
May all true Americans leave false religions behind and once again recognize Our Nation and Creed’s “E Pluribus Unum,”"Novus Ordo Seclorum,” and above all “Annuit Coeptis” are given to us in covenant by the Creator, direct. Seek Truth, pursue Justice, establish Righteousness, and abolish Evil – thereby serve G-d.
Truth and Justice is of G-d alone: Any who does not seek to hang Bush and Cheney for their manifest treason of 9/11 is not of G-d, or worthy of the name “American.”
Posted by: Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis | June 11, 2011, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
People, why don’t you really listen to what Romney has really said! Instead of putting your own opinions into his words. I have friends that have gay family members. I do not agree but that is their right and who am I to judge them? We are to love everyone.
When are people going to stop listening to others and get off the lazy chair and learn about issues from the real source. What is it with being a Mormon? If you knew what it really is all about you would not be making such stupid, unfounded remarks. One thing I will say about Romney is, he would be one of the most honest and concerned Presidents this nation has ever had.
Posted by: linda | June 11, 2011, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I was raised by a Catholic father and a mother who belonged to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (aka Mormon). The churches are very similar on many many teachings. I would like to state the answer to the question about gays. You can be gay, active and in good standing with the church. I have many friends who are that hold temple recommends (which means you hold to the highest of standards) they are simply celibate. Like many (most) religions LDS people believe you should never be engaged in sex unless lawfully married. Hence whether you are heterosexual or homosexual you should not follow your carnal urges.
There are many, many black Mormons around the world and many famous ones including the legendary Gladys Knight. Like so many other issues surrounding the church, the truth has been twisted and changed. Romney was right, if you want to know about his religion go directly to them. If I wanted to know how to prepare Chinese food I certainly would not make a trip to Rome and asked someone famous for pasta dishes. The mark of Cain was a dark mark, that of which many carry today. A mark against the soul. The Creator cares not what color your skin is, but cold blooded murder put a dark mark upon the soul. With modern day help we can rise above what our parents have done, but in the past clans have been noted for being either passive or violent.
I would never let an individuals religion influence who to vote for. It is their stand on the issues and integrity as a person that I look for. With this being said, I hope my answers will help clear up some issues. If you are wondering, I still highly respect the teachings of both the churchs I was raised in, along with the many others I have studied.
Posted by: Val | June 16, 2011, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
As for the issue of race and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or Mormons, there seems to be this common misunderstanding. The dark skin that has been placed up on some races is NOT a curse. The curse was that a certain people, because of attitude and actions, were cut off at certain periods of time from God’s influence. The dark skin was a MARK that was placed to identify the two different groups. It doesn’t mean that people with that mark are always cut off from the presence of God. Just like someone who comes from an abusive home may be more likely, statistically speaking, to continue the the abusive cycle in their own home it doesn’t mean they will. We can all change our believes and actions at anytime. If you believe and study the Bible then Cain was one that a mark was placed on. But that was long before Noah and so one or more of Noah’s sons must have had an interracial marriage and I am sure she was a wonderful woman to have been one of those preserved during the flood. Race is beautiful! And if you believe doctrine is taught in the hymns of our church, according to W.W. Phelps, “there is no end to race…” LDS hymnbook hymn #284 Seriously do you really think everyone in heaven will be white? I am sure they won’t and I am glad!
That said, I hope we will all vote based on a persons knowledge, abilities and moral character…not their religion, race or color. I had friends that voted for Obama just because he WAS black…that is as racist as not voting for someone because of their race or religion.
Posted by: Susan | June 18, 2011, 11:14 am 11:14 am
David, the “Mormon” church is not racist. Many websites that can be found through a simple Google search make up facts, or distort them. There are millions of latter-day saints (Mormons) all over the WORLD. And I’m becoming overwhelming tired of repeating this due to all the scandal on TV sitcoms and whatnot… We do NOT practice polygamy. Interracial marriage is OK. We are a Christian faith. Therefore we believe in Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost, and our Heavenly Father. The Bible is a part of our doctrine. Please visit to get appropriate information on the “Mormon” faith.
Don, never say never. For your information, there are already “Mormons” in the US Government. There are wonderful people from all religions in the world, and their faith should not be a deciding factor on whether you vote for someone or not.
Posted by: Jessica | June 20, 2011, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
not a Morman, BUT, like their beliefs !
Posted by: erica | June 25, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
To MyTakeOnThis61 |
I think one of the biggest issues of confusion in the whole gay “rights” debate is what constitutes a “right.” Do you define marriage as a right or as a societal construct, an institution bound by rules of law, whether they be religious or secular? Every society that has ever existed on this earth has defined marriage by its own tenets, determining who can be “married,” who can do the marrying, and what privileges come from said unions. Some societies allow polygamy, some allow temporary marriages or marriages specified by length of time, some allow polyandry, and some trial marriages. Some states allow civil or non religious marriages, others have said they must be performed only by some religious cleric. In some societies marriages have been allowed by mutual consent and public statement of the parties involved without a formal “official” or ceremony to sanction the union. It seems that just about every type of arrangement has been or is used in some way somewhere on the globe. Therefore, it does not seem wrong to me to allow our citizens to decide what we define to be a “marriage.” I don’t think it is a “right,” and I suspect that this is very much the way Romney, and many other people of faith, many different faiths, view it. Our society is never going to agree on this however, it never agrees 100% on ANYTHING, but that’s why we put the matter to a vote. As for what defines a “right,” once more, a rather large debate, but we have to be careful. And I think this is a big part of the issue. Take away any religious overtones or concerns, and you run into some very basic legal concerns. Definitions of rights and defining them in law must not be allowed to impinge on the other basic civil liberties that have always defined our nation. I think many people, despite their personal feelings of what may constitute marriage would care less if a gay couple decide to hold a ceremony to recognize their relationship. I learned a long time ago that I can love and appreciate people without involving myself in every aspect of their lives, and I can have friends of many different persuasions than my own without feeling threatened in my own beliefs. However, in places where legalization of marriage has become the law of the land, other issues have arisen. Schools can be required to teach that gay marriage is a normal and expected relationship and structural element of society. I know that as a teacher I can not, and will not participate in such instruction, and as a parent, I do not want my children being exposed to these concepts either. I believe that instruction in such things should be the responsibility of the parents. If you don’t think this can happen, think again. It is happening in places where the legal definition of marriage has been changed to reflect same gender marriage, and due to the way our laws are interpreted,this means that the schools are being required to reflect that in their instruction. The book “King & King” is used by some school districts with children as young as kindergarten to introduce them to the concept of gay marriage. Another victim of the legal ramifications are private institutions who do not recognize or support the concept. Yes, legalization law, and its attendant influence on other laws and policies of our society causes a breakdown of the choices of private versus public rights in terms of what an organization is, who they service, and what they do. For example, Catholic adoption and welfare services, who have a long history of service to the community have had to close their services and move out of states where this has become the law, because they will not adopt to same sex couples. In Great Britain, an old and well respected such organization just lost their last appeal to the courts, and will have to stop offering services in the United Kingdom. Additionally, there are concerns that some religious communities, who do not agree with same sex marriage, may eventually fall under prosecution for failure to perform such unions, and religious marriage for these communities may only be allowed to take place as a private ceremony AFTER a civil/ “legal” marriage is performed in order to protect the religious institutions involved. Obviously, there is much more to the issue than appears at first glance, and great care must be taken in how we decide to deal with it. We and our posterity will be dealing with our choices for a very, very long time to come.
Posted by: Diana | June 28, 2011, 7:51 am 7:51 am