Bachmann Signs Pledge for Ban on Porn and Same-Sex Marriage
ABC News' Russell Goldman (@GoldmanRussell) reports:
Michele Bachmann became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge, vowing to support a constitutional amendment that defines marriage between a man and a woman, and which calls for a ban on all pornography.
“The Marriage Vow – A Declaration of Dependence upon Marriage and Family,” sponsored by the Family Leader, an Iowa-based conservative organization, equates same-sex marriage with bigamy and polygamy and calls on candidates to promise to be faithful to their spouses.
The two-page pledge includes a “Declaration of Dependence on Marriage and Family” that blames several factors for the deterioration of traditional marriage including “quickie divorce” and unmarried couples living together. The pledge also describes homosexuality as a choice and not genetic.
“This debasement [of marriage] continues as a function of adultery; ‘quickie divorce;’… [and] anti-scientific bias which holds in complete absence of empirical proof that not non-heterosexual inclinations are genetically determined,” reads the pledge.
Candidates, like Bachmann who sign the pledge, vow “vigorous opposition to any redefinition of the Institution of Marriage…through statutory, bureaucratic, or court-imposed recognition of intimate unions which are bigamous, polygamous, polyandrous, same-sex.”
They also recognize that “married people enjoy better health, better sex.”
Though Bachmann sponsored a Minnesota law defining marriage between a man and a woman, the positions she supports in the pledge contradict some of the statements she has made publicly regarding gay people and same-sex marriage.
Bachmann’s support of a constitutional amendment outlawing same-sex marriage, conflicts with previous comments she has made, in which she has said she would not interfere with states that have legalized same-sex marriage.
“I do believe in the 10th Amendment and I do believe in self-determination for the states,” she said during a CNN debate in June. “I'm running for the presidency of the United States. And I don't see that it's the role of a president to go into states and interfere with their state laws.”
By signing the pledge she supports the idea that homosexuality is a choice, and that being gay is a health risk. Last month, however, she told CBS’ Bob Scheifer that she was “not running to be anyone’s judge.”
"You know, I firmly believe that people need to make their own decisions about that," she said when asked if being gay was a choice. "But I am running for the presidency of the United States. I am not running to be anyone's judge. And that's where I'm coming from in this race."
The first two states to pick a Republican candidate for the White House, Iowa and New Hampshire, have both legalized same-sex marriage.
The pledge also ask candidates to promise to oppose the imposition of Sharia Islamic law.
Bachmann’s campaign did not respond to comment for this story.
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There are a host of disgusting ideas in this pledge but banning pornography is not one of them. The pornography part is in reference to child porn. Not sure why you picked that part out as the newsworthy item when the pledge gives plenty of options to choose from.
Posted by: Read it | July 8, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Nuttier than a fruitcake.
Posted by: Kurt | July 8, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Kurt – I couldn’t have said it better.
Posted by: Office Goddess | July 8, 2011, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I am just so thankful that I don’t ‘live in Iowa”….I would be totally embarrassed to say I did. What a bunch of ‘out of touch’ loons. And this is the MAIN type of mentality this idiot appeals to.
Posted by: CND FOX | July 8, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
While Michele Bachmann loves to play the gay card to bash those deviant gays, Barack Obama loves to play the race card to bash those racist white people.
Both are a pair of political demagogue wiiling to play up divisive social issues to polarize the nation for their personal gains.
Michele Bachmann – The Barack Obama of the Republican Party.
Posted by: skponggol | July 8, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
No porn? First they will have to define porn in the amendment, because the courts say the Constitution doesn’t do that now. Then they will have to develop a time machine to go back and prevent invention of the Internet.
Posted by: Greggw | July 8, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
The pledge says no porn and it says no imposition of Sharia Islamic law. Those two goals are in direct conflict.
Posted by: Greggw | July 8, 2011, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Child porn in the US is ALREADY banned so that claim makes no sense.
Posted by: Nemo | July 8, 2011, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
The pledge says no gay marriage and it says no imposition of Sharia Islamic law. Those two goals are in direct conflict.
Posted by: Greggw | July 8, 2011, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
People like the ill-informed Bachmann are always talking about “taking the country back.” Now we know what she means, take us back to 1950.
Posted by: Tom | July 8, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The pledge does not call for a ban on all pornography. Reporters should read it before they report what is in it.
Posted by: Dan | July 8, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Haha good luck with that, Michele! Now release a definition of “porn”…that would be great entertainment. GOP fruitcakes.
Posted by: Sarah | July 8, 2011, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
No “porn” — What planet is she from? And what difference does it make if homosexuality is genetic or something picked up in childhood. I mean, that is how the person is, and that’s that.
Posted by: frank burns | July 8, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
This article makes a brazenly false statement in saying the pledge “calls for a ban on all pornography.” The sole item in the pledge that mentions porn prescribes no specific remedy, but says exactly this, and no more:
“Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”
Russell Goldman could have quoted this, but instead chose to lie. He should be fired for unethical practice.
Posted by: David Braun | July 8, 2011, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
If she is nominated, it is bad news and good news. Bad, because if she is elected, it is the end of the greatness of the US — in its plurality and secularism — as it has been since its inception. Good, because I doubt the voters of the US, in the majority, are gullible enough and narrow enough to fall for this demagoguery. But it frightens me, because it’s like Sinclair Lewis once said, “If fascism ever arrives in the United States, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.”
Posted by: frank burns | July 8, 2011, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Real “small government” values, telling people what they can and cannot do and watch!
Posted by: Someone | July 8, 2011, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Bachmann would love to get in there and legislate her version of morality across the US. Would NEVER work. That’s how clueless she is. Christian Zionists are the worst nutters!
Posted by: Charlie | July 8, 2011, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I welcome all Republicans to sign a pornography ban. Please do it. Lose that male 18-49 demo.
One thing though, who decides what’s pornographic? You? Me? Michele Bachmann? Her husband? You know, the one that has everyone’s gaydar buzzing like mad?
Porn ban, yeah, let’s run on that, with the economy in the tank, tax cuts destroying the revenue stream, giveaways to big oil and the corn contingent there in Iowa …
Morons.
Posted by: Joe B. | July 8, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Charlie, Christian Zionists? Do you even know what Zionism means?!
Posted by: KARL | July 8, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Typo: What ban on all pornography???
Human protections for children and women injured by human [trafficking] and the sex industry are not a ban on all porn. What a crock a serious reporter could write this. Did you read it or just decide you want to hurt Bachmann?
Posted by: Maggie Gallagher | July 8, 2011, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
President Obama is No Christian
No Christian can support Homosexuals
No Christian can support Politicians that Support Homosexuals.
You can not support God and what God Condemns at the same time.
Gods Word on Homosexuality
1 Corinthians 1 6;9-10—Leviticus 18;20—-Leviticus 20;13–Romans 1;26-27
1 Timothy 1;8-10—Revelation 21;8 —Ephesians 5;11-12—-Matthew 19;4
We as Christians are to Love everyone but we are to condemn their Abominable Acts.
No one can support 2 Masters because you will love one and hate the Other
Posted by: Fool_Patrol | July 8, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I think that the declaration is too strongly stated on some points and disgree with other points, but I think it is an important and valid statement against same-sex marriage. A good thing that politicians explicitely take sides like that.
Posted by: s.b | July 8, 2011, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
“Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”
It clearly states ALL FORMS OF PORNOGRAPHY, not limited to child pornography. And the target is clearer when you see who it protects – women and children. So this pledge is about banning ALL pornography.
Posted by: Jared Christian | July 8, 2011, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Muslims Believe Rightfully so That Americans Low Morality Ruins Their Women And children. I Disagree With Most Of Their Beliefs –But On Morality They Have a Good Case.
Posted by: Fool_Patrol | July 8, 2011, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Christian can not support Abortion or Politicians that support Abortions
God condemns Abortions –Exodus– 21:22-23-If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, ( cause a premature birth ) and yet no mischief follow ( the baby is not killed ), he shall surely be punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any other harm follows then it is life for life.
1.4 million un born babies are murdered each year
40 million world wide.
God condemns it –As a Christian you must condemn it too.
Posted by: Fool_Patrol | July 8, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Americans have lost all their Moral Values. Now Only Satin Can Win the White House—The Proof Is setting In The White House Now.
Posted by: Fool_Patrol | July 8, 2011, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Sorry should Be SATAN
Posted by: Fool_Patrol | July 8, 2011, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
how else can you protect women and children from pornography? by banning it. regulating pornography would not protect women and children. i suppose it would make sense if we don’t allow women and children to see pornography….thus protecting them….but only allowing men to have porn is sexist don’t you think?
Posted by: Jared Christian | July 8, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
What a perfectly-organized bit of theater: run a provably false allegation, allow the nutroots to spin it out, and continue the attempts to character-assassinate a candidate whose actual qualifications and goals you cannot touch. And people say the mainstream media is biased.
Posted by: AtheistConservative | July 8, 2011, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
An adult should be able to marry ANY consenting adults. Don’t support bigotry and don’t throw others under the bus. There’s nothing wrong with same-sex, polyamorous, interracial, or consanguineous marriages.
Posted by: Keith | July 8, 2011, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Right.
And Barack Obama is the smartest man on the planet.
And ABCNews tells the truth.
Find the truth for yourselves, the MSM seeks only to manipulate you for its own ends.
Posted by: jeannebodine | July 8, 2011, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Gee, why no link to the document in question? Guess the “journalist” just “forgot”.
Posted by: jeannebodine | July 8, 2011, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
To READIT: Per your note…”There are a host of disgusting ideas in this pledge but banning pornography is not one of them. The pornography part is in reference to child porn. Not sure why you picked that part out as the newsworthy item when the pledge gives plenty of options to choose from.”
Child porn is already banned and very illegal. Why would an additional pledge against it be necessary? Otherwise, it seems Bachmann and Santorum want government out of the live of Americans (oh yeah, except where THEY say so).
They’re both electoral toast. No chance, and good riddance.
Posted by: Jequato | July 8, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
When I hear the names Santorum mentioned together with Bachmann, all I can envision is frothy fruitcake.
Posted by: Jequato | July 8, 2011, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
that porn reference had better be about just child porn. it wouldn’t make any sense at all. porn has existed for approx. 35,000 years – dirty cave paintings. no joke. it’s human nature to want to look at “dirty” things. and she needs to wrap her head around the fact that the nuclear family is an outmoded and dead concept. people live together and have kids out of wedlock, moms can be single, people date the same gender. that’s simply the way it is.
Posted by: drksyd | July 8, 2011, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Man, what IS IT with Christians not only hating gay marriage, but porno as well?
I’m 23, live at home, have very religious parents, every once in a while they will find magazines or unsavory internet history and it still shocks them. They still think I need help/ have an addiction to it.
Bottom line: it’s not hurting anyone. It’s MY BUSINESS! I dare any Christian who makes such claims to read Ezekiel 23 about the two harlot sisters. Cuz, y’know, that’s good family values right there!
Posted by: Tony | July 8, 2011, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
FYI this is the same Russell Goldman who got in trouble for screwing around with a Palin interview to make it sound like she was dumping McCain before the 2008 election. Russell didn’t you learn you lesson last time?
Posted by: JimH | July 9, 2011, 3:12 am 3:12 am
that was a skilled way to end her political career, I am curious to know more of the whole “pledge” thing and who or how it was initially offered to Michele Bachmann …if it was designed by an Obama/Clinton supporter or themselves in order to undermine her favor and gain Obama support-because after reading the pledge, I thought of Oprah and Obama, then Bachmann losing support. Obama won the last election by process of elimination, and he ran a anti-war campaign to control liberals. Had he not expanded the war to Afghanistan, hired Clinton and Biden whom incidentally voted (“yes” we can) to invade Iraq, now still spending 2 billion a WEEK oversea’s while state and federal programs are facing more cuts, arts programs are losing funding and Obama also attacked Libya-I’d say then Obama is a real winner, and deserves the noble peace prize. In the end he’s a decoy candidate- the war machine got what they wanted and Bachmann is a troll and set up. Couldn’t help but wonder if after she is constantly being told how gorgeous she is in blog posts and by others in public- if she wants them to see her as untouchable sexually-but insatiable and controlling of others sexual fantasy or thoughts as porn does nothing but fulfill this. Barf to Obama and this Republican whack job who I would rather see making out with Oprah in a sensationalized over publicized upcoming episode on her (Oprah’s) failing cable channel- to help boost poor ratings.
Did I mention Bill (Monica didnt play with my dog)Clinton de-regulated the banks and our economy then collapsed years following, or that Bill Clinton also turned radio stations into a joke after removing radio anti-trust laws? Now we have the same song and dance routine on repeat incidently the music business has also COLLAPSED. Liberals are an abused and used bunch of gullible people, easily toyed with. REVOLT!
hey did anybody notice a list of Republicans were once Democrats including Guiliani? So which is which-vote/register independent and ditch the game.
Posted by: 2012 | July 9, 2011, 5:51 am 5:51 am
“Calls for a ban on all pornography?”
No it doesn’t. Not at all. It calls for a continuation of the ban on illegal child pornography.
Don’t know where ABC News is getting their info from, but this is sloppy reporting of an outright falsehood.
Posted by: Joel L. | July 9, 2011, 7:07 am 7:07 am
Bachmann is nuts. Pledges like these are image things and they in no way indicte any fact about the candidate’s real intentions except that they don’t see anything wrong with the content. In this case you can see tons wrong. It’s not the things you might agree with because it’s easy to get agreement on some things (even if the ideas are impossible to implement or actually fantasy), but it’s the things that are literally off the wall that should warn you as to her intentions.
Posted by: muffler | July 9, 2011, 9:08 am 9:08 am
She doesn’t know basic government principles if she believes the Constitution is for legislative matters. Then, again, how many Americans believe the Bill of Rights is some kind of “Communist plot?” What do the Latter-Day Saint candidates say about “marriage” being “between one man and one woman?” After all, before all this present-day hoo-doo, federal law from the 1870s and court cases resulting towards this definition were a result of the cultural conflict between the Latter-Day Saints and the rest of the USA.
Posted by: JD Moore | July 9, 2011, 9:46 am 9:46 am
To address the point everyone seems to be most in arms about, the pornography thing, it does in fact say all pornography.
“Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”
By saying we want to protect our children from all forms of pornography we are saying that we want to protect them not just from child porn, but from daddy’s porn stash, and from the internet, and everything. It does not say child pornography, it says all porn. So yes, the author of the article was correct in quoting it as he did because it is saying all forms. However, it will be very interesting to see what Mr. Flint has to say about all of this :)
Posted by: Matthew Ryan | July 9, 2011, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Regardless of any of this It is absolutely beyond me that anybody would even consider bachmann (lower case because I do not even respect it enough to capitalize) for president. It’s amazing that she is even where she is. Her husband is obviously gay, she is obviously nuts, and whats even more scary is that some of you would vote for her given the chance. /sigh
Posted by: wtfchuck | July 9, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am
This is histarical, shes trying to relate polygamy and gay marriage? seriously now…I love how gay marriage requires two or more people to make a “couple”. And the ban on pornography dispute will never go through, she is an idiot…
Posted by: teddy | July 9, 2011, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Seriously, you all need to read the actual pledge. It says NOTHING about banning pornography in this pledge. What it says is the candidate will take a vow not be lured in by porn, or the temptation of marital infedelity. Which as you know, a lot of Male politicians, have that temptation. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST, and read before you react to a headline.
Posted by: Jim | July 9, 2011, 11:44 am 11:44 am
She’s Nuttier than a Fruitcake and her husband is Fruitier than a Nutcake.
Posted by: Louis | July 9, 2011, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Whats sad is how many Americans agree with her…. she can’t be the only one.
Posted by: Sera | July 9, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
CND FOX, what are you talking about??? We can see you are just another mad President Obama got elected person. I have never seen or heard President Obama use the race card. You are the one who has brought it up so maybe you are actually the racist. LOL.
Posted by: Ash | July 9, 2011, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
It funny how the ones who are mad President Obama got elected and can’t get over it always find a way to post their gripes about him in any news story that has completely nothing to do with him. LOL. This really shows their complete obsession with him. Hilarious. LOL.
Posted by: Ash | July 9, 2011, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
I’m conservative, and I think porn shouldn’t be a political issue. If you don’t want porn, don’t go after it on the websites. It’s none of anyone’s business what adults watch. Being a busy-body is what gives conservatives a bad name and takes away from issues of personal responsibilty, jobs, and taxes. Shame on Bachman for inserting this into the forum when it’s the econonmy stupid.
Posted by: alur | July 9, 2011, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I live in Iowa and can honestly say, I wish these people wold go away. Bob VanderPlaats is behind all of this nonsense. He has tried to be govenor 3 times and is a three time loser so now he wants to tell everyone else how to live their lives. I apologize for the whole state for these idiots.
Posted by: kepper | July 9, 2011, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Michele Bachmann probably has more in common with the Taliban–the most ardent believers of Shari’a Law than any other presidential candidate.
Posted by: Jared | July 9, 2011, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
This brings up one of several questions……She signed a vow as an individual, but will this vow, in her mind, affect how she would make decisions as the POTUS?
Also #3 and # 8 seem contradictory. # 3 itself is very concerning.
Posted by: Coach | July 9, 2011, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Hopefully no one else is stupid enough to sign this…
This would be a disgusting breach against rights as well… Porn? A lot of people enjoy that… If meaning child porn… that’s already banned basically. If you’re caught with child porn then that’s no good, people shouldn’t have it anyway.
Same sex marriage? Do our poor brothers and sisters in the community really need more grief? Let them be!
I couldn’t bare to read much further.
Posted by: Kristi | July 9, 2011, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
“Human protections for children and women injured by human [trafficking] and the sex industry are not a ban on all porn. What a crock a serious reporter could write this. Did you read it or just decide you want to hurt Bachmann?”
Read the pledge: Humane protection of [b]women[/b] and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and [b]all forms of pornography[/b] and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.
Bolded for emphasis. Now you can argue that “humane protection” equates to, but it’s clear what the intent is.
Not that it matters, unless our nation becomes 1930s Germany I doubt she will ever set foot in the White House unless it’s on a tour.
Posted by: Vee | July 9, 2011, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Weird… She’s a candidate that has been adamant about small government and states’ rights, but seems to contradict that platform by telling state’s what to do… Smaller government by increasing federal interference… I really shouldn’t be surprised; she’s a politician; they all pander, contradict themselves, lie, and make promises that they don’t intend on keeping.
Posted by: SKan | July 9, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
She has flip-flopped several times on six different statements. She is a fruit-loop, and she will find that out at the next debate. She is out of the race already, whether she knows it or not. Even if she retracts this statement, or tones it down, people will never take her seriously again. Dumbest political move you could make. This just made my day…self destruction….what a country!!!!!!LMAO
Posted by: jed | July 9, 2011, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Oh and by the way,…just went back for the transcripts of her statement….she did make the statement “and ALL forms of pornography and prostitution”…now, whether or not in context….it can be construed a number of ways…for her or anyone else…regardless of her views on porn…the whole, we are all going to act like Christian conservatives, and live like that, whether we like it or not, is actually anti-American. It hasn’t worked before, and it won’t work this time…she can’t even go back and change her strategy…she already screwed that up…..love it!!!!!
Posted by: jed | July 9, 2011, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Way to shoot yourself in the foot Bachmann. How far removed from reality would you have to be to ignore the fact that the largest consumers of pornography are the RED STATES?! Moron.
Posted by: Natasha | July 9, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
She talks out of both sides of her mouth and when was she appointed God. Usually these loud mouth moralists end up involved in a scandal of their own sooner or later.
Posted by: Kay | July 9, 2011, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Why would you have to ‘protect’ adult women from porn, prostitution, making dirty movies, etc? You’re infantilizing them. They aren’t capable of making their own decisions, the state has to make it for them? Sure they need protection if they are coerced, or if they are under-aged, but otherwise this stuff is freedom-destroying.
Posted by: whatmeworry | July 9, 2011, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
What part of “…all forms of pornography…” does not mean not a ban on all forms of pornography? Perhaps you should read the pledge yourself?
Posted by: NB | July 9, 2011, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Since Bachmann is an attorney, as well as Congresswomen, will she please draft a bill which defines “Pornography”? By the way there are passages in the Bible, which I deem to be pornographic. If that is the case, will she work to censor the Bible?
Posted by: LarryLinn | July 9, 2011, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
We don’t need a constitutional amendment for any of this. Human trafficking is already illegal, viewing adult porn is a personal choice I believe covered by the right to free speech, and homosexuals must — must — be allowed to marry and enjoy all the benefits of marriage allowed to individuals in heterosexual marriages. Bachmann seems to be a bigot and wannabe moral dictator of the worst, and most hypocritical, description. She cheerily signs the pledge as she declares for states rights to decide on moral issues. She can’t even be true to her own moral views if it gets in the way of winning. And by the way, morality has no business being legislated – ever.
Posted by: KB | July 9, 2011, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Ban porn…that’s about the only thing I agree with…she’s a flake otherwise
& I wouldn’t vote for her !
Posted by: ed baggett | July 9, 2011, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I liked her Fiscal policy. But banning anything is unamerican. Shes done. NEXT up for the stupid party!
Posted by: noah | July 9, 2011, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Bachmann is a very dangerous person, as far as our constitutional rights are concerned;
a.) Pornography is protected by the First Amendment; child pornography is not. Therefore, she wants to take away part of our First Amendment Rights.
b.) Same sex Marriage is protected by the Equal Protection law as has been held by 3 lower federal and one appellate Federal Court. Therefore, she wants to graft exceptions (never before done) on the Equal Protection Clause.
This Clown is DANGEROUS!!!!
Posted by: wayne | July 9, 2011, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Please don’t ban porn. It is the only American industry that has yet to be outsourced. I say NO to chinese porn filmed in the province of Shanghai.
Posted by: Isaiditbest | July 10, 2011, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Palin and Bachmann have set women back 100 years with their stupidity lol Too bad other women don’t call them out on it. I guess it’s an indication of the future collapse of society, which isn’t too far off in the distance btw.
Posted by: AlBundyMWC | July 10, 2011, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Maybe she can take us a little further than mere banning of porn. Let’s go for stoning adulterers. After all, isn’t adultery condemned in the Bible, too? Oh, I realize many of her own party would be a little nervous over that one. And tell me how same-sex marriage is a threat to our traditional marriage model any more than the affairs have become so commonplace. The woman is an idiot.
Posted by: Mary Ridenhour | July 10, 2011, 8:44 am 8:44 am
They don’t call um Demonrats for nothin…look how they support porn. What’s next…advocating the murder of unborn children?
Posted by: Roma | July 10, 2011, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Many of her backers, the rapist pediophile right wing nutcase catholic priests are going to be very upset about this. She may lose some of her base.
The other idiots that back her, the evangelicals won’t be around after Oct 21 when their king Harold Camping is going to take all of them away to meet the man in the sky.and give them their new paloace rooms right next to Allah’s Hotel where the Talibam suicide bombers are staying with thei many virgins.
Posted by: life2 | July 10, 2011, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
They must be so scared of Bachmann that they have to tell half truths like this. Backmann knows, as she has said so, that the president can’t outlaw gay marriage. She is talking about “supporting” a constitutional amendment. Obama also said that he supported the defense of marriage act. That is until after the election was over. We should be ashamed and angry about how unfair and deceitful our media has become.
Posted by: calvin | July 10, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Actually, the post as read does ban all pornography – in fact, it says ‘all pornography’ right in the pledge. It doesn’t just say that women and children should be protected from forcibly BEING in porn (which no sane human can argue with) – it also says that they should be protected FROM ALL porn. That means banning it. Using women and children as an excuse to impose a moral stricture upon society is the oldest trick in the book.
Posted by: MCH | July 10, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
That’s funny, I thought conservatives were against the government telling people what to do in their personal lives?
Oh wait, that’s only when they agree with it.
Bachmann is like Palin but even more stupid, which I must admit is…sort of impressive, in a depressing sort of way.
Posted by: Slash | July 10, 2011, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
In what way does a ban on “all forms of pornography” not ban all pornography? Please explain…..
Posted by: Sam | July 11, 2011, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Am I the only one noticing the irony of that it bans pornography involving Women and Children but not men, so despite the anti-gay sentiment it sends out the only pornography legal under it would be gay pornography?
Posted by: Shresh | July 11, 2011, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Although women are no less capable of conducting the office and duties of the President, it won’t happen in my life time precisely because of women like Bachmann and Palin. It’s a one two punch of stupid and crazy, and I’m afraid the damage to the female image in national politics will take a generation to repair.
Posted by: Josh | July 11, 2011, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
And by the way, all the people who are saying the reporter lied? You’re absolutely nuts. It plainly states “all forms of pornography” in the pledge, not just kiddie porn and sex trafficking. There is no gray area here: “ALL FORMS OF PORNOGRAPHY”.
Posted by: Josh | July 11, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I’d like to ban Christianity and clothing.
Posted by: Dan Lazarus | July 11, 2011, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
It seems to me that this tea party wants to control everything in this country..isn’t that what they claimed Obama would do? First I am appalled at her signing the bill with the remarks on children being better off as slaves. And, more importantly I resent giving subsidies to her husband to try to change a gay person in his clinic. He has taken in total over the last eight years 161,000.
Posted by: Pataricia | July 11, 2011, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
What an animal! Only a republican would come out with something like that, they will do and say anything to get the right wing nuts to vote for them! Don’t they know that there are 23 countries that have full gay marriage or full civil unions? Does this country have to be the last country to give gay marriage to us? I’m legal married in Canada!
Posted by: roy b | July 12, 2011, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Bachmann signed a pact that in essence states that anyhting the signer has done prior to signing the Marriage Pact is not held aginst them.
How can that be?
God Sanctifies a marriage and God is the only One that can put such a marriage asunder. Every day an adulterer living in an adulterous marriage stays in that unsanctified marriage; he or she is living in sin.
It’s different than Anthony Wiener cheating on his wife, but staying in his marriage. He committed adultery but he continued in a sanctified marriage.
Bachmann then is saying that as a christian she will forgive a person living a lifestyle of adultery, like the pope when only God can put asunder what He joined together?
Is she a mormon?
They believe in multiple marriages and adultery?
She is not God and can not absolve anyone living a life of adultery.
Posted by: Charles Slakan | July 13, 2011, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Since Bachmann is an attorney, as well as Congresswomen will she please draft a bill which defines “Pornography”? By the way there are passages in the Bible, which I deem to be pornographic. If that is the case, will she work to censor the Bible? One person’s pornography is another person’s eroticism.
Posted by: LarryLinn | July 15, 2011, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Is she also advocating going back to witch-burning?
How about the Spanish Inquisition?
Posted by: Rich Grise | July 23, 2011, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
To those trying to say this does not call for a ban on porn and instead calls for protection against something illegal or nefarious, you are wrong. Period. This pledge does call for a protection from porn, and you can see that when you remove the clutter.
“Humane protection of women and … children – from … all forms of pornography … other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”
The claim here is that pornography is harmful for the participants, mostly adult women. This pledge calls for protecting women from being enticed into participating in pornography.
So yes, a ban on porn.
Posted by: Aaron | August 15, 2011, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
i think it is absolutely ridiculous that as a woman she is soooo conservative about social issues. does she not realize that if she practiced what she preached she would not even consider being a president because she is a WOMAN? And most people with her same ideals think women shouldn’t be presidents? how self-defeating. if she is so concerned with these conservative “family values” she should be at home cooking and taking care of her husband/kids.
Posted by: jla12 | August 16, 2011, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Sadly, the pledge contains clauses too long for some illterates:
“Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.”
Parsing this to the subject matter at hand (harhar), this is what we have:
“Humane protection of women … from … all forms of pornography …”
Is this a “ban”. The word “ban” is not here. However, given that this is a political platform to be pushed with legislative changes (aka “laws”) and constitutional amendments, it is not unreasonable to use the word “ban” (defined as “Officially or legally prohibit”).
Note that would BAN women from making pornagraphy (hello unemployment). Two dudes can still make a porno ($$$) for Marcus Bachmann and Rick Perry to watch.
Posted by: Bob Miller | August 22, 2011, 10:57 am 10:57 am
I’ll sign for this bill to be enacted.When? Tell me the day to go vote for it and I will.
Posted by: Cynthia | March 15, 2012, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm