Jul 12, 2011 7:11pm

Let There Be Light Bulbs? House Vote on Incandescent Ban Fails

UPDATE: A vote in the House Tuesday failed to repeal part of a 2007 law that would begin gradually phasing out energy-inefficient incandescent light bulbs in January.

The final vote was 233-193 with only 10 Republicans breaking ranks to vote against the repeal — but under the rules of suspension, the bill required a 2/3 majority to pass. 

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s office issued a statement Tuesday saying Republicans were “taking American families another step backward” by voting for the bill.

The new light bulb standards would save the country $12.5 billion per year when they are fully implemented in 2020, according to a study from the Natural Resources Defense Council that is cited in the Pelosi’s statement.

A spokeswoman for Texas Gov. Rick Perry said his state’s repeal of the incandescent bulb phase-out, which he signed into law in June, was about “protecting jobs” and “pushing back against misguided federal overreach into matters that should be left to states to determine.”

“There is no reason to issue a ban on something that is still in demand,” said Perry spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.

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ABC News' Amy Bingham reports:

Is the federal government’s plan to phase out energy-inefficient incandescent light bulbs an assault on Americans’ freedom of choice? 

Texas Gov. Rick Perry and presidential candidate Michele Bachmann certainly think so, as does Rep. Joe Barton, R-Tex., whose bill to repeal the federally mandated phase-out goes up for a vote in the House this evening.

Perry, who is rumored to be weighing a presidential bid, signed a bill into state law in June that would allow Texans to keep their less-efficient bulbs after the federal ban goes into effect in January. The bill’s sponsor, State Rep. George Lavender, said if the traditional bulbs were made and sold in Texas, the federal government could not use the Interstate Commerce Clause to regulate them. 

But the fight is about far more than light bulbs. 

“It’s a symbol for a lot of things happening right now with the federal government, with them trying to micromanage our lives,” Republican Lavender said. “I don’t think anyone voted for their congressman or their senator to go up there to Washington and vote for what kind of light bulb they could buy.” 

Minnesota Rep. Bachmann seems to agree. 

She introduced a bill in March that would repeal the phase-out unless the new bulbs were proven to save consumers money, did not pose a health risk because of their mercury content and reduced overall carbon dioxide emissions by 20 percent in the next 24 years. 

“Frankly, I would be surprised if the [Government Accountability Office] can prove these criteria, but at minimum, my bill will provide the opportunity to examine these important issues,” Bachmann said in a March statement. “The American people want less government intrusion into their lives, not more, and that includes staying out of their personal light bulb choices.” 

The federal law, signed in 2007 by then-president George W. Bush, requires all bulbs to be 25 percent more efficient by 2014. That would mean a traditional 100-watt incandescent bulb must now use only 72 watts. 

But that doesn’t mean consumers have to buy the curly compact florescent bulb, which, as Lavender said, “most people I know don’t like.” An updated version of the revered incandescent bulb uses halogen gas to increase efficiency, but leaves the bulbs otherwise unaltered. These bulbs cost about $1 more than the old ones.

Andrew deLaski, the executive director of the Appliance Standards Awareness Project,  said the light bulb issue has become a “political football”  and “a kind of rallying cry for Tea Party conservatives who use it as a symbol of the federal government, which they like to demonize.” 

DeLaski pointed out that energy-efficiency standards for home appliances were first enacted by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1987.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D- Ore., who was on ABC’s Top Line today, expressed his frustrations with  the House’s efforts to reinstate the inefficient bulbs. 

"GOP brought back Styrofoam, now trying to bring back inefficient light bulbs…Rotary phones may also make a comeback #GOPBacktotheFuture” he tweeted. 

When Republicans took over the House in 2011 they reinstated Styrofoam packaging in the cafeterias, ending a three-year compost program started by then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The Democratic leadership had replaced the cheaper, but non-recyclable Styrofoam with slightly more expensive, compostable dishes.

User Comments

It doesn’t matter what issue you pick $$$Democrats get on the wrong side.

Posted by: Nosbigmit | July 12, 2011, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

What is the big deal? We switched a long time ago – actually would have preferred LED but they were too expensive. No bulb changes [so no buying new bulbs since put in the CFL]in a few years, the light is comparable and our bills have gone down a little.

Posted by: kay | July 12, 2011, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Oh my god, Republican politicians have to be the most idiotic species of life on earth! “Yes, by all means, let’s fight the implementation of a program that saves energy. After all, we Republicans get a ton of money from the energy industry. We need to keep them happy.” Incandescent bulbs use 95% of their energy as HEAT. And just 5% of it as light. The new law mandates better efficiency in light bulbs, period. Only in the bizarro world of Republicans is more energy efficiency a bad thing………..

Posted by: SearamblerOne | July 12, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Oh my god, Republican politicians have to be the most idiotic species of life on earth! “Yes, by all means, let’s fight the implementation of a program that saves energy. After all, we Republicans get a ton of money from the energy industry. We need to keep them happy.” Incandescent bulbs use 95% of their energy as HEAT. And just 5% of it as light. The new law mandates better efficiency in light bulbs, period. Only in the bizarro world of Republicans is more energy efficiency a bad thing………..

Posted by: SearamblerOne | July 12, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

My main concern with the new bulbs is the amount of mercury they contain. Any broken bulb in a municipal building must be treated as a hazardous waste cleanup. The mercury in our landfills and eventually our water is not going to be good. Future ground contammination is seriously something we need to consider.

Posted by: OfCourse | July 12, 2011, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I find it borderline hypocritical that the Republicans believe the government shouldn’t be telling people what kind of light bulbs to buy, but it’s perfectly fine for the government to tell you who you can marry.
If they are truly interested in getting the government out of our personal decision-making, then at least be consistent about it.

Posted by: Trev | July 12, 2011, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

If the newer lightbulbs are more efficient and worth the increased cost, then they will win in the market place. If someone is in financial difficulty, and the up front savings on less efficient bulbs would help them put food on their table, they should have that choice. This is just another case of our government trying to play nanny.

Posted by: free_2_choose | July 12, 2011, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

SeaRambler. Hg emmissions from coal-fired plants makes sourcing from broken CFLs look like peanuts.

Posted by: atilathehun101 | July 12, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Yeah, and I want my constitutional right to by unleaded gas. Lead in the atmosphere is acutally good for you — don’t listen to the liberal scientists.

Posted by: frank burns | July 12, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

It’s not about energy efficiency or the energy companies or even how long the bulb lasts…it is about taking away our freedom of choice, if I want to use a CFL, an LED or an incandescent that is my choice (and BTW I use all three) I don’t need the government telling me which light bulb I can use any more than I need them telling me which toilet paper and how many squares I can use…the problem is that they erode our freedoms a little more everyday and half the people in this country are even smart enough to give a rats rear end

Posted by: samhiguchi | July 12, 2011, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Sounds like republicans to me. But hey, when you live behind a gate and are worth millions, who cares if you waste a little energy. They’ll never see the light of day.

Posted by: BEEBEE | July 12, 2011, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Basically, it’s a matter of scams. Both the Republicans and Democrats have corporate interests, and they see government as just a tool to make themsleves richer, at the expense of “the little guy”, it’s just the types of corporations that differ. The Republicans specialize in the “old school” businesses, oil, pharmaceuticals, shipping, utilities, financing, insurance and banking, while the Democrats go for start up businesses, cutting edge technology. But both use govenrment to try to force people to buy. Laws requiring helmets and elbow and knee pads for biking, rollerskating and skateboarding; laws forbidding people from getting prescriptions unlesss they go through a “gatekeeper” doctor “verifying” their health; cars designed with deliberately high trunk lids forcing motorists to buy closed circuit TV; phasing out incandescent bulbs to force people to buy new mini-fluorescents.

Posted by: julianpenrod | July 12, 2011, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

I don’t like CFLs for one big reason: they make everything look green. I remodel homes, and before I can take photos to show folks the home, I have to swap out the CFLs for regular bulbs. Photos taken with CFLs have a sickly green cast. Also, the EPA advises evacuating a room for 10 minutes if you break a CFL. That seems a bit crazy to me. I know incandescents are less efficient, but there’s no need to evacuate if you break one, and colors are much more accurately rendered. Seems to me that I ought to have the choice as to which one to use.

Posted by: wordwrkr | July 12, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

BeeBee; “Sounds like republicans to me. But hey, when you live behind a gate and are worth millions, who cares if you waste a little energy. They’ll never see the light of day.” You mean like Al Gore?

Posted by: LongT | July 12, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

republican’s trying to corner the pro-polluter voting segment?
good grief. what hypocrites, they have their nose in private business between a woman and her doctor all the time – carryon about how their tax dollars should not support contraceptives and abortion. Not one ever speaks up over my frustration as to why my tax dollars fund the purchase of a recreational drug, Viagra.
We got their number.

Posted by: frazzled | July 12, 2011, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Like Al Gore? Does he live behind a gate, sure. But you forget he knows there’s a problem and has tried to get it fixed. You are supporting the GOP wacknuts. Congratulations. I’m glad you think you have a right to be stupid.

Posted by: BEEBEE | July 12, 2011, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

TO ALL THE FOX NEWS VIEWERS AND BELIEVERS OF PROPOGANDA LISTEN UP, MR. AND MRS. “MOST MISINFORMED”
TAKING AWAY YOUR FREEDOM…THEN THAT’S WHAT GEORGE W. BUSH DID, BECAUSE THIS WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY HIM IN 2007. BUT FOR THE “DO-NOTHING” CONGRESS TO “REPEAL” THIS LAW IS NOTHING LESS THAN “PETTY”….WHILE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GONNA LOSE THEIR RETIREMENT, INTEREST RATES CLIMB AND AMERICA BE BRANDED AS “DEADBEATS” FOR NOT PAYING IT’S BILL CAN’T PASS THE DEBT CEILING.
Plus, Mr. and Mrs. “MOST MISINFORMED” there would be plenty of the energy using bulbs in stores. Take your pick.

Posted by: raven | July 12, 2011, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

LED bulbs, get used to it. Whine any way you want, you’ll save $$ regardless.
Mercury from coal, y’all. See you @ the mountaintop removal.

Posted by: onechimpanzee | July 12, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

I don’t seem to notice a difference because all of my bulbs are in enclosures which and I don’t notice a difference in color. Why don’t the Republicans work on the significant problems in the U.S.? Don’t they get it? They were elected to solve problems, not to deal with stupid issues!

Posted by: M.E. Pace | July 12, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Right on Raven!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BEEBEE | July 12, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

Hey republicnas, I’m still looking for those jobs you promised us last Fall.
Remember, you said if we elected you that you could create jobs?
President Obama 2012!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BEEBEE | July 12, 2011, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

ABC News just wants you to think that republicans are currently putting forth any extra concern about this, in the face of our budget problem. They are not. Just as the democrats have issues other than the budget that they continue to deal with too.

Posted by: John S | July 12, 2011, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Funny, the majority of republicans voted for it the first time. The only reason I know this is I hate these bulbs and complained about the liberals forever on it. Then I found out the republicans were right in there with them. Watch them vote against it now. They seem to be pulling a lot of that lately.

Posted by: maemobly | July 12, 2011, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Beebee; Typical. Insults. Al Gore talks the talk, but seldom walks the walk. Now who is “stupid”?

Posted by: LongT | July 12, 2011, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

LongT – YOU ARE! Seldom walks the walk beats never walking it!

Posted by: BEEBEE | July 12, 2011, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Another stupid idea courtesy of the democrats. Each CFC bulb contains 5 milligrams of Mercury. Multiply that amount by say 100 million homes, average 20 bulbs per house…and you get 100 tons of Mercury, concentrated directly in our homes in easily shatterable containers. The coal plants you were so worried about only put out 40 tons a year, diluted to the point where it was measured in parts per million. Furthermore, under a Bush initiative, the power plants were set to reduce that to 15 tons by 2020.

Posted by: Bender | July 12, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

The issue here is that if the government can ban a non-harmful product, they can ban any product they please as long as it panders to their political base. I wonder how many people would be upset if they banned the sale of hair dryers as they consume huge amounts of power but are not necessary towards being able to live.

Posted by: adam | July 12, 2011, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Trev Jul 12, 2011 4:47:19 PM — You are right!! Unfortunately, that is normal in politics, both parties!

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | July 12, 2011, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

People are upset because under this administration we have been told too many times what and what not we should do. Look at what they are doing to school lunch programs.
We need to make our own decisions about our life, if we make the wrong ones then we must live with it.

Posted by: Tim | July 12, 2011, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

I bought a whole bunch of the new bulbs, thinking I was doing something good for the environment and our electric bills. Turns out the new bulbs are too wide and won’t fit in my lamps. So if I want to use them (and it seems I will soon be forced to), I will have to buy all new lamps. To whom shall I send the bill?

Posted by: Roscoe Chait | July 12, 2011, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

well, it’s just a good thing there’s no ban on idiots. the Republicans would be an extinct species.

Posted by: bajacalla | July 12, 2011, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

I like LED technology better than CFL, so extending incandescent for use in rarely used lights makes me happy. CFL would be more environmentally unfriendly for some of my purposes and more expensive. I would abandon CFL and go LED in a second but not incandescent for CFL.

Posted by: Greg | July 12, 2011, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Unemployment is out of control, the debt ceiling is about to be hit, and THIS is what Republicans are spending their time on? Incredible. What a bunch of morons.

Posted by: esq777 | July 12, 2011, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

The CEO of General Electric must be mad as hell.

Posted by: Paulie | July 12, 2011, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

BEEBEE: I’m still looking for the jobs Obama spent $787 billion dollars on.

Posted by: Paulie | July 12, 2011, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Republicans love going backwards. Nevermind that the Government has created tons of mandates before that none of us would really bother to challenge. Seatbelt laws, drinking alcohol, etc. Soon they’ll want us back to riding in horse buggies.

Posted by: BoboMcStevens | July 12, 2011, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

Last GE bulb plant closed in the US last year. 200 jobs lost. Promise of green technology creating a boom of replacement jobs worked though–for the Chinese. They are the biggest manufacturer of the CFL bulbs. This lighting idea is not so bright.

Posted by: EGBOK321 | July 12, 2011, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

$12.5 BILLION in savings and Perry and the GOP are AGAINST IT, huh? That must make them ‘total liars’ then to beat up on the President about reducing spending…and they cannot even follow this simple way to save. THAT is exaxtly the type of STUPID PRESIDENT we would get with Rick Perry. We all ready had one STUPID TEXAN. WHY IN the **** WOULD WE WANT ANOTHER ONE?

Posted by: CND FOX | July 12, 2011, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Again, republicans were for this before they were against it. They were majority in favor when this passed.

Posted by: maemobly | July 12, 2011, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Why doesn”t anyone get it!! It’s not about light bulbs, It’s about freedom and freedom to purchase what YOU want not purchace what the government makes you to purchase….

Posted by: Jeff in OH | July 12, 2011, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Hey Rep. Lavender: You’re precisely wrong when you say, “I don’t think anyone voted for their congressman or their senator to go up there to Washington and vote for what kind of light bulb they could buy.”
I am precisely such a voter. I believe in the clear science of climate change. I deplore the ravages of fossil fuel extraction on the mountains of West Virginia and the waters of my home state of Pennsylvania. I want our economy to power itself more efficiently. My #1 voting priority is energy efficiency and renewable energy, and I do want my congresspersons to tell me and my fellow Americans we can’t buy inefficient lights and electronic products that trash our atmosphere and our planet. I take great offense that you act like I don’t exist.

Posted by: Glenn Campbell | July 12, 2011, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Well said Raven!

Posted by: Devon Rex | July 12, 2011, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

It’s official—Republicans are idiots!

Posted by: Debbie | July 12, 2011, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

When are the Dumbpublicans going to have a “Defense of Crappy Lightbulbs Bill”?

Posted by: Matthew | July 12, 2011, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

CFL’s are junk. They work well when they are used where air can circulate around them. If you use them in an enclosure they will go bad in no time. Also they don’t come on at full brightness. In an area such as a bathroom or a hallway, you want to see where you are going. Also the more you turn them on and off, the shorter time they will last.

Posted by: Earl | July 13, 2011, 12:18 am 12:18 am

LET’S HAVE A VOTE TO REPLACE THE CORRUPT OBAMA ADMNISTRATION!
OBAMA’S STIMULIS PACKAGE GAVE OVER A “BILLION” DOLLARS TO “THREE” STATES FOR BROADBAND ACCESS (OVER $300,000 PER HOME). WHY WASN’T THIS APPLIED TO OUR DEBT?
STOP FOREIGN AID, WELFARE AND MEDICAID!
How dare Obama threaten to stop payments to vets and senoirs who earned them. Why doesn’t he reduce the salaries and perks of ALL government employees?
Why doesn’t he send ALL illegals back to their homeland, rather than providing food, shelter medical attention and education to them at the cost of American citizens??? The Democrats see illegals as unregistered voters!
Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the liberals, along with the biased media, Soros, Unions, Acorn, etc. based the entire 2008 campaign on lies.
Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. They took control of our White House in 2008. They did inherit a bad economy — and immediately QUADRUPLED our debt, while cramming Obamacare down our throats.
I’ll never vote for another Democrat!

Posted by: OBAMA VS. AMERICA! | July 13, 2011, 12:22 am 12:22 am

I don’t mind the curly bulbs except that they’re friggin gigantic. I can’t use several of my favourite lamps with those bulbs. Perhaps get them suited better for lamps that are used to the other bulbs.

Posted by: Faith | July 13, 2011, 12:22 am 12:22 am

OBAMA’S STIMULIS PACKAGE GAVE OVER A “BILLION” DOLLARS TO “THREE” STATES FOR BROADBAND ACCESS (OVER $300,000 PER HOME). WHY WASN’T THIS APPLIED TO OUR DEBT?
STOP FOREIGN AID, WELFARE AND MEDICAID!
How dare Obama threaten to stop payments to vets and senoirs who earned them. Why doesn’t he reduce the salaries and perks of ALL government employees?
Why doesn’t he send ALL illegals back to their homeland, rather than providing food, shelter medical attention and education to them at the cost of American citizens??? The Democrats see illegals as unregistered voters!
Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the liberals, along with the biased media, Soros, Unions, Acorn, etc. based the entire 2008 campaign on lies.
Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. They took control of our White House in 2008. They did inherit a bad economy — and immediately QUADRUPLED our debt, while cramming Obamacare down our throats.
I’ll never vote for another Democrat!

Posted by: OBAMA VS. AMERICA! | July 13, 2011, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I see Democrats having an inkling of respect in about 20 years if they keep their act together!! — But say goodbye in November 2012… you lose!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | July 13, 2011, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Republicans are ready to throw this country into economic ruin and what do they bring to the floor of Congress? Not a bill to take away tax subsidies to the richest companies on earth compliments of American taxpayers-no, one to waste energy-lots of waste.If the Republicans throw America over the cliff, we should impeach them.The Republicans are a repugnant relic of history.They are full of “Sound and Fury Signifying NOTHING”!

Posted by: madhatter | July 13, 2011, 1:12 am 1:12 am

I just want the old bulbs so the Easy Bake oven works for my daughter – they put off the heat needed (100watt). Other than that we use the newer bulbs.

Posted by: kane | July 13, 2011, 6:23 am 6:23 am

BEEBEE: I’m still looking for the jobs Obama spent $787 billion dollars on.
Posted by: Paulie | Jul 12, 2011 8:24:06 PM
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There are plenty of them out there. All you have to do is take off the partisan blinders while you’re driving and look at all the work being done on the roads and bridges. All stimulus money my friend.

Posted by: dk | July 13, 2011, 6:51 am 6:51 am

I’m starting to dump my used CFL’s in Nancy Pelosi’s district. So Nancy if I’m to eat cake you can eat a little mercury..

Posted by: Digger6 | July 13, 2011, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Just quit making the old ones. Remember leaded gasoline, mercury thermometers, CFC’s, DDT, lead paint. I can’t figure out why this is even being debated.

Posted by: dagodad51 | July 13, 2011, 7:37 am 7:37 am

Hadn’t seen all the clean coal ads in a while. I wondered what they were doing. Now I know.

Posted by: Mike | July 13, 2011, 7:49 am 7:49 am

This stroy and the reaction from the rabid liberals are all I need to read to know these loons are completely off their rocker and should be ejected from any and all government.

Posted by: Kate | July 13, 2011, 7:59 am 7:59 am

You can already buy a 72 watt = 100 watt incandescent bulb for $2 that looks just like a traditional bulb, and it will save more electricity than the purchase cost. Home Depot, Phillips EcoVantage 72w=100w.

Posted by: Bob Maginnis | July 13, 2011, 8:48 am 8:48 am

That would be a good move. Let’s do that.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | July 13, 2011, 9:17 am 9:17 am

This isn’t about freedom of choice, it’s about progress.
As I recall, some people complained when the government outlawed leaded gasoline, DDT, asbestos, Phen-Phen, and lead paint. However, I think few would argue now that our world is worse off for not having those items.
When a government works well, it makes choices that will improve the lives of its citizens. When a government doesn’t work well, it uses fear tactics to achieve the desires of special interest groups.
The politicians who are claiming the government is taking away your right to free choice have obviously forgotten the energy shortages in the 70s, the rolling blackouts on the East Coast in 2003, and the amount of their last electric bill. To say that the government working towards conserving energy is an attack on freedom is like saying that big business has attacked our freedom by no longer making the Commodore 64 or the Atari 3200. Wouldn’t you rather have an iPad or an Xbox360?
The law of supply and demand states that the less you buy of something, the lower the price of that commodity will go. If Americans use less energy, the price of electricity per kilowatt hour will decrease. Wouldn’t you rather have a smaller electric bill?
Lastly, the lighting fixtures being sold on the market today are not compatible with incandescent bulbs. As older fixtures are replaced, the incandescent bulb will go the way of the 8-track tape due to declining sales, regardless of government legislation. So what does it hurt to encourage the switch now so we can save a little energy and leave a better world for our children?

Posted by: Bellini | July 13, 2011, 10:14 am 10:14 am

The government shouldn’t Much like automotive fuel economy standards there could be minimum requirements for lumens per watt and light wave spectrum! This allows innovators to create efficient lights without picking winners and losers!

Posted by: Voice_Reason | July 13, 2011, 11:25 am 11:25 am

This has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with an “erosion of freedom from an ‘intrusive’ government”. It has EVERYTHING TO DO with saving money, being progressive and showing COMMON SENSE. When is the “middle class’ ever going to eschew the way of the “fanatical, paranoid’ soundbites of the fearmongers and conspiracy theorists???? Is it any woinder why there are so many rich ‘televangelists’??? LOL…LOL

Posted by: CND FOX | July 13, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

“People are upset because under this administration we have been told too many times what and what not we should do. Look at what they are doing to school lunch programs.”—– Ahh yes, it’s better/more patriotic to just feed kids junk for lunch with taxpayer money isn’t it? It’s astounding to me the things stupid people fight against.

Posted by: genhrules | July 13, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

It’s amazing so many people want government to tell them what to do. I know people love living in a nanny state, but forcing hazardous light bulbs on people is really something.
Funny how liberals want freedom of choice for abortions but not for light bulbs.

Posted by: Wes | July 13, 2011, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Here’s how you phase in the new light bulbs: Tell people that only welfare recipients will get them! Then everybody will want them.

Posted by: Esther Williams | July 14, 2011, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

samhiguchi: When I was a kid we didn’t have freedom of choice — we absolutely HAD to have the smallpox and polio vaccines. Damn it, if it hadn’t been for the government sticking it’s nose into my business, I could have had smallpox and/or polio. I feel sooooo deprived!

Posted by: Esther Williams | July 14, 2011, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Global warming, incandescent light bulbs,organic food,the tea party: tell me which side you are on and I will know a good deal about you.

Posted by: Candadai Tirumalai | July 14, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Wonder where China stands on this issue?

Posted by: Omm Humm | August 29, 2011, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

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