By Eliza

Jul 27, 2011 1:02pm

McCain Blasts Tea Party for ‘Foolish’ Demands in Debt Debate

ABC News' Sunlen Miller (@sunlenmiller) reports:

As Speaker of the House John Boehner is looking for votes on his House debt bill, one Senate Republican sent a strong message to the Tea Party block in the House and Senate that are still withholding their support: get on board.

Senator John McCain’s, R-AZ., message was in particular aimed at those who are withholding their support for any debt ceiling bill – Republican or Democratic – holding the Balanced Budget Amendment passage as a precondition to the debt limit increase.

“To hold out and say we won't agree to raising the debt limit until we pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the constitution. It’s unfair, it's bizarre,” McCain railed on the Senate floor, “And maybe some people have only been in this body for six or seven months or so really believe that. Others know better."

Many of the most conservative members of the House have said they will not vote for any debt ceiling increase that does not include a Balanced Budget Amendment and deeper spending cuts. Similarly, some conservatives Republicans in the Senate have said the same.

McCain called this “amazing,” foolish” and “deceiving” that some members believe that this can happen, now with only 6 days left until the nation defaults on its debts with the August 2 deadline for action looming.

“To somehow think or tell our citizens that if we have enough debate and amendment here in the Senate in the short term in the next six days that we will pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution is unfair to our constituents,” McCain said.

McCain is a supporter of a Balanced Budget Amendment but does not believe that the station now, just six days away from the August 2 deadline for action, is the correct time to be pushing for this when it does not stand a chance when connected to the debt ceiling increase.

And then there was a little mocking from the Senator – who has held elected office in the Congress since 1982– for his young counterparts who say that if this plays out like they’d like it to the blame would be put squarely on President Obama and the Democrats, insinuating their theory would not work out as planned.

McCain said that the Reid plan is “full of smoke and mirrors” and chastised President Obama for leading “from behind.”

McCain would vote for the Boehner plan if it passed in the House and was sent to the Senate. Many of McCain’s Republican colleagues in the Senate would not – Senators Jim DeMint, Mike Lee, Lindsey Graham, and Rand Paul – have all come out against the Boehner plan, saying they will vote no if the bill comes to the Senate.

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The Tea Party was created as a reaction to Big Government John McCain: every Democrat’s favorite Republican.
Dear Republican Party: Can you hear us now?

Posted by: John | July 27, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

For starters, John McCain is a Democrat calling himself a Republican. It is not just the Tea Party that wants fiscal responsibility; it is the working and taxpaying Americans. The rest are on the take or part of the Obama’s plan to take us down

Posted by: rick | July 27, 2011, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

i am a conservative and mc cain is correct on this one. gingrich pulled the same stunts as the tea party in 1995 and the conservatives paid for it. i have no problem with 25% revenue and 75% cuts.that would be fair. when raising revenue they need to raise from everyone or dont take a handout.
in addition for all the good the tea party has done and it has been alot some of the bafoons they put up cost the repubs the senate.i hate to say it but bachman and palin are truly not even close to being presidential but neither was or is obama.
how i wish hillary would challenge obama as she would win easily this time around.

Posted by: catman | July 27, 2011, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

I had to hold my nose as I voted for McCain. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for a man who said he wanted to “re-distribute the wealth” (sounds like a socialist mantra to me). So, Sen McCain, had there been no Tea Party, Obama’s Feb budget plan would have been implemented and if there was a budget, how many trillion would the budget deficit be?

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

John | Jul 27, 2011 1:28:15 PM
….You can be sure most Tea Party congressmen and women can. Isn’t interesting that ALL 2010 Hispanic freshman congressmen (& women) are Republican.

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

John | Jul 27, 2011 1:28:15 PM posted: “The Tea Party was created as a reaction to Big Government.”
No John, the Tea Party was originally set up and funded by the neo-John Birchers who own the second largest privately held business in America: Koch Industries.
And yeah, the Koch Bros. have spent decades funding their “Think Tanks” to destroy “big govmint”, teachers unions, environmental regulations and the minimum wage.
The Kochs believe the central struggle of politics is to free the “productive” (them) from having the fruits of their superiority forcibly redistributed to citizens Ayn Rand described as “looters and moochers”.

Posted by: green.goddess | July 27, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

There is a bit of truth to what Mac is saying but the little quip about “thats not how it gets done around here” strikes me that congress is set in their ways. Regardless of how dire our financial system is in they are going to keep doing it the same way-the way that has got us to this point.
The President, Congress and Washington insiders know full well that they could do with a little less…the rest of the country has..yet they all seem content to play politics and try and see who has the largest manhood.
Unreal.

Posted by: david | July 27, 2011, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Attention editor: The correct term is “Team Party bloc” as in “bloc of votes” or “Eastern Bloc” not “block”.
Weak.

Posted by: Wallace | July 27, 2011, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

I told you! “It’s them!”IT IS THEM!!!” In their absolute inane idiotic belief that they are about to save the country, these people (Yep! Some truly want less government, but know how to achieve this safely, but most of these people germinated from a racist bent), are about to TRULY destroy the economic stability of this country!!!!

Posted by: mytakeonthis61 | July 27, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

GOP gets a big FAIL on this whole mess !

Posted by: PulSamsara | July 27, 2011, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Ahh Mccain, what an idiot! It’s not surprising that the biggest warmonger himself comments on the budget and the economy the way he does. If This idiot were to ever be in a position of greater authority America would invade every nation in order to take over the world. Seek counseling mr. mccain and get over Vietnam and your POW days.

Posted by: blis4us | July 27, 2011, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

What arrogance. I respect the man for is service to our country, but in the last 10 years I don’t much care for his politics. He has become a cog in the Washington Establishment morras that we are in.
The “Tea Party” members in Congress were elected on promisses they made to their supporters. Like it or not, they represent about 33% of Repubs and 15% of the whole House. I’m not a huge fan of the Tea Party, but a senator to stand there and say that wanting a vote on a balance budget amendment is “foolish” and “deceiving” is pure bs.
The time it took him to deliver his “speil”, the Senate could have voted on the damn thing. Bring it to the floor and vote up or down, do it in both houses. If it passes, send it along to the next step. If it does’nt, then try again at a later time. At least the tea partier’s get the respect they deserve.

Posted by: RiskyBiz | July 27, 2011, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

I voted for this jerk McCain but he is just as bad as Obuma,maybe a bit better,I pray we get a real man or woman to win the next time around.

Posted by: flaguyxx | July 27, 2011, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

The most telling part of McCain’s statement was in regards to the newness of those we elected in 2010 to actually change this country back to what it was. McCain: And maybe some people have only been in this body for six or seven months or so really believe that. Others know better.” By knowing better, McCain hints at the very operational processes that created this mess. We in quality management know that if “you always do what you’ve always done then you’ll always get what you always got.” But what surprises me most is that McCain, he refused release from a Hanoi POW prison until all of his men were released, drew a line in the sand with the North Vietnamese and DID NOT BUDGE. Just think that if he had said, “yes, I’ll accept release provided than in 6 months you’ll agree to release the rest.” McCain didn’t say that because he knew that if he gave up the one bargaining chip he had, he would never be able to negotiate again. The freshness of those elected in 2010 is that they still remember how real life works. Compromise and negotiation is supposed to be give and take, not take and take. So far, everyone on the GOP side, including those who are correctly representing those of us who elected them, has been willing to give but we can’t get the liberals past the “take” phase. If McCain can’t see that, then he truly is a part of the problem and not the solution.

Posted by: wantingbalance | July 27, 2011, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Does anyone out there believe that one of these days the MIDDLE CLASS will wake up to the fact that what is going on in politics today is ACTUAL class warfare of the RICH against THEM? And the ‘tea partiers’ are the PAWNS of the rich to accomplish their goal of total subjugation and ultimate power? Why do you think that they launced such a propaganda campaign for you to ‘distrust government’. Why do you think they spent so much time and money
on the ‘birther issue’? Why do you think they are prime money source of the tea party? Why do you think their main propaganda tool is “Faux Noise”? Why do you think they pend so much time and money ‘pandering’ to the evangelical vote? It can’t be because those people are all ready ‘brainwashed’ can it? DON’T YOU PEOPLE EVER ASK YOURSELVES THESE QUESTIONS? otr is it just too uncomfortable and too much effort to take your mind off ‘autopilot’ and actually research things?

Posted by: CND FOX | July 27, 2011, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Of course John McAmnesty wants to raise the debt ceiling. that’s what ALL Democrats want to do. Just because he calls himself ‘Republican’ doesn’t mean he ‘is’ one. He IS a ‘known liar’!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

WantingBalanced: Give it a rest, you are completely unbalanced and you are not half as smart as you think you are. Why don’t you stop your right wing ranting on this blog? Obama will win a landslide in 2012 and you’ll probably still be complaining about the president. LOL!! The country is changing and that’s why you are scared.

Posted by: justuspofolks | July 27, 2011, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Green.Goddess’ post at 2:52 pm got it right. Google Koch Brothers +Nazi +Ilse and see how deep the roots of such thinking run. Extremism unrecognized has infiltrated Congress. And now were are on the brink of calamity orchestrated with malicious intent by Tea Party zealots. This is the dawning of the Age of Tea Party lies, Tea Party lies, Tea Party LIES.

Posted by: CKS57 | July 27, 2011, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

The Tea Party was formed to create and cultivate Anger and Racism….FEAR! And McCain started it with his Angry Rallies and division that led to the country having to endure the the first, new, Lady Grand Wizard of the KKK

Posted by: raven | July 27, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

The fact that Demint, Paul and Graham are against is all I need to know that I am against it. These are men of character and values that I respect and trust. I don’t trust the Reed, Schumer, Palosi crowd as far as I could spit.

Posted by: opinionator | July 27, 2011, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Yea.. let’s keep on doing the same stupid crap we have been doing for decades…. Raise the Debt Limit, Raise Taxes, and keep ON SPENDING. It has worked very well for us, hasn’t it?

Posted by: ajax659 | July 27, 2011, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

cnd_fox “…total subjugation and ultimate power.” You’re too funny. The homosexuals in this country, something 2 or 3% of the general population has everyone doing their bidding. Public schools are pushing their agenda on 5-year olds! Everyone’s walking on eggshells for these people. And you’re insisting that the “rich” a very, very small minority like the homosexuals, are all about subjugation and total power! Obama is among the uber-rich, you know. What’s his aim with all the reckless spending? We know that the poverty rate is about identical today to what it was in 1965. I guess we just need to spend trillions more and the “poor” will magically be elevated. The difference is education and personal responsibility. Nothing good comes of the nanny state. No other prez has ever spent at the clip Obama has. That’s just a fact. And we’ll have as much to show for it 30 years from now as we do today. The middle class can keep on voting for politicians who put in place policies that keep them exactly where they are. They’ve been doing it for decades. If you want more, do more. It’s not the government’s place.

Posted by: s | July 27, 2011, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

“So far, everyone on the GOP side, including those who are correctly representing those of us who elected them, has been willing to give but we can’t get the liberals past the “take” phase.”
Can someone provide one single instance in which anyone on the GOP side has offered to give anything? Anything?

Posted by: Jeff F | July 27, 2011, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

These da*ned dysfunctional Republicans are going to send the US economy into a tailspin. The GOP appears to be fighting themselves, let alone making no attempt to compromise with the Democrats. This nation is heading toward the abyss, thanks to the Tea Party zealots.

Posted by: A.Lincoln | July 27, 2011, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Tea Party used to stand for freedom, that’s why its used by those who want to take our freedom away. Pyschopaths, which make up six percent of our population, like the Koch brothers, would deprive us of our right to freedom. They throw morality out the window and compete unethically at almost every turn, all in the name of morality and good sense. IT IS EASY PROPOGANDA when in control of the media. It would not surprise me to see a last minute deal struck, applauded, that reduces Social Security benefits. In case you didn’t hear, Social Security now needs money from the fictitious $2.5 trillion that was supposed to be saved for use now. Where the money go? Tax breaks for the rich? Iraq war? You pick. WANTINGBALANCE may sound crazy or perhaps he’s merely a sane voice in a sea of insanity.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 27, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Oh yeah it’s bizarre that taxpayers want our government to live within its means…and balance the budget. McCain, you senile self serving moron, retire to a rest home already.

Posted by: Evilbunnies | July 27, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

McCain can kiss my @$$. He is nothing but a RINO anyways.
He sandbagged us in 2008. We will not listen to his lies again.
Do NOT raise the limit. Period.

Posted by: Tim Singleton | July 27, 2011, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

sameagain | Jul 27, 2011 2:43:29 PM
…”The Kamikaze Tea Party does not care”……If that is true tell me where this country would be if the Tea Party had not raised the issue when Obama wanted to increase his budget in Feb.?? Keep in mind the ratings agencies have said $4T must be cut to prevent a credit rating downgrade.

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

In the underbelly of the US Senate (specifically, at the end of the lower intestine) is where we find THE SLIMEBAG SIX despicable, rino traitors who will continue to support d-cRAT socialist issues, and everybody knows who they are: AMNESTY-JOHN mccain, scott brown, collins, snowe, murCOWski and graham.
That’s part of the “hit list” for all American patriots to follow in future elections.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | July 27, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Is compromise take the Senate bill or else? The Cut, Cap and Balance bill was not even debated in the Senate!

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Chicken Little: the default is coming, the default is coming. McCain is RINO.

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Stupidity get us into this mess, so we have the right people in congress to fix this.

Posted by: Bob B | July 27, 2011, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

JustUsFolks…you make my point much better than I ever could. No solutions, just finger pointing. If Obama wins in a landslide, that’s what either a majority of the people or the minimum number of electoral college votes wanted. I understand what majority representation means, do you? Those elected in the mid-terms were generally elected with a specific assignment from the majority of voters who put them in office. It really does not require a great amount of intelligence to understand that since you are making the point on your side. As with all discussions, it would really be helpful if you would keep the dialog open and productive. For example, other than taking the wealth away from everyone else, do you have any suggestions on eliminating our national debt? On reducing the deficit? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: wantingbalance | July 27, 2011, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

The Republicans got us into this situation….. why should we trust them to get us out?
If the Republicans were so serious about balance budgets, why hasn’t any Republican president balance one?
During the Bush years the Republicans had control of the Senate and the House of Representative and still were unable to keep the balance budget that was given to them, by Clinton.

Posted by: Darrell | July 27, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

If the Republicans can accept the Democrats plan, the same can be said for the Democrats accepting the Republican plan.

Posted by: deanbob | July 27, 2011, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Raising the debt ceiing means allowing us to borrow money to pay for debts already established. That’s not a difficult consept to get but Tea Partiers sure act like it is. It’s also not hard to understand that the debt was increased dramatically under the last Republican administration and that the current admistration is not largely at fault. Come on, it’s not rocket science.

Posted by: EarlGrayHot | July 27, 2011, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

The Republicans/Tea Partiers and their “foolish demands” are digging their own grave. Since taking office, they have demonstrated a complete unwillingness to compromise and have made it crystal clear exactly who and what they stand for.
They have proven time and time again that their “top priority” IS, indeed, to “make Obama a one-term president”, and they are willing to do ANYTHING which they feel furthers that goal, even if it harms the nation.
Think about it; they have ZERO incentive (being unprincipled, politically motivated ideologues) to do anything (or allow anything to be done) which benefits the economic recovery.
Quite the contrary; they have EVERY incentive to do everything in their power to bring the recovery to a screeching halt or even reverse it prior to the 2012 elections. Sitting presidents are ALWAYS blamed for economic woes.
So that is exactly what they are doing, in Congress and nationwide; eliminating thousands of public sector jobs in the states they control (which has raised the unemployment rate despite the fact that we are still adding private sector jobs every month), creating a “debt crisis” and obstructing its resolution (which has caused investors and employers to revise their former confidence and halt spending/hiring, citing “uncertainty”), and attempting to slash spending which serves to stimulate the economy and extend policies like the Bush tax cuts which serve to reduce revenues AND slow economic growth.
They are pandering to an extremist faction which WANTS to see the nation go into a tail-spin and demands that they dig in their heels and refuse to budge an inch, but by doing so, they are alienating the much larger faction of GOP voters.
The tide of public sentiment is turning against them. Obama has given them enough rope to hang themselves and they have jumped up on the chair and tightened the noose, not even snapping to the fact of how they are being played until very recently.
This “crisis” WILL be resolved at the last minute (because even THEY are not crazy enough to allow a default…or at the least, those pulling their strings won’t stand for it; those with the most money stand to LOSE the most in such an event).
Like all bullies, they are bluffing and trying to get their target to back down and hand over the lunch money.

Posted by: TheRealRaven | July 27, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

You can always tell who’s fair and balanced.

Posted by: manwithoutaparty | July 27, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

The Tea Party is right. Anyone in Congress who has not recently been elected needs to be removed.
There is no plan because we are broke as a nation and these people have no idea how to solve the problems they created themselves.
They are crooked, inept, and lack any ability to lead and are only looking for a deal that will clear the way for their next election.

Posted by: DEF519 | July 27, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

John McCain is a Republican. The fact that he is not an idiot leads some conservatives to believe that he must be a Democrat. However, he is a Republican.

Posted by: steve | July 27, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

John McLaim, RINO Repubikan. He is the only thing worse than the current whitehouse resident. The last election was between a democrap and a marxist.
It is Repubikans like McLaim that helped spark the Tea Party.

Posted by: Radar in VA | July 27, 2011, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

foolish demands by the war monger john mccann why don’t you jusy die you crotchedly old man or better yet run away off the nearest cliff this war business is all your fault

Posted by: ED SHELLY | July 27, 2011, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

s…thanks for your 2:49 post. You are now on record as proof that you have no idea what you are comparing or talking about. Nothing but standard right wing soundbites and misinformation and ideological conspiracies.

Posted by: CND FOX | July 27, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

BTW, I just LOVE how any Republican who doesn’t toe the extremist party line is “not a REAL Republican” (but is, in fact, a DEMOCRAT or even a SOCIALIST!), any Christian who commits acts of terrorism is “not a REAL Christian”, and any American who disagrees with their politics is “not a REAL American”.
These peoples’ greatest weapon is SPIN; re-defining the meaning of words, of history, and framing the debate to their advantage. They HAVE to, since they have nothing of REAL substance to offer.

Posted by: TheRealRaven | July 27, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

I have supported you for years, but I am very disappointed & disgusted with you for your attack on the Tea Party. I am an Independent and can’t support any Democrat and have now added establishment Republicans to the list- you, Lindsey, Romney, etc. I can’t see any help for this country if the debt limit is increased. You politicians only think of yourself and not of the country. With your past history, I thought you would be different.

Posted by: Pat Young | July 27, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Pat Young, as a progressive Independent for Obama, thanks! It’s folks like YOU who are going to split the Republican party and hand Obama an even bigger landslide in 2012! :)

Posted by: TheRealRaven | July 27, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

McCain’s got some nerve dressin-down the Tea Party. In 2008 if McCain had challenged Obama hard for his lack of experience and many other of the well-known “Obama Issues” then the Tea Party movement would not have happened. McCain is reflective of an across-the-world crisis in leadership; i.e., there is no leadership; there is only gainsaying and blame-laying. Our leaders are a reflection of us, We The people; and these days, we ain’t lookin too good.

Posted by: spoofproof | July 27, 2011, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

just a brief note from the statement above that obama will win re election, guess what no way

Posted by: ED SHELLY | July 27, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

The Chris Matthews Leg Tinglers are out in force. Anyone who opposes them is a selfish, bible thumping racist. Folks, when you are out of airspeed and altitude at the same time, you got to ride the thing to the ground. In your case, are you willing to go off the cliff with that idiot you elected as your president? Remember, this is the guy who never managed a Dairy Queen. This is the whiz kid who could not make out in a cathouse with a fistfull of “your” hundred-dollar bills. Now take a deep breath and relax.

Posted by: rick | July 27, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Like most Americans I am very concerned about the debt ceiling. In order to stabilize our Debt-GDP ratio we need to cut around $6 Trillion over the next ten years. Any plan to cut that much must, by definition, include a healthy dose of tax increases. The refusal of the Tea Party to consider tax increases demonstrates either that they are stupid or not at all serious about the deficit. Perhaps it is both.

Posted by: John O | July 27, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Does anyone here besides me believe that the heart of the overspending is in the bloated, out-of-control bureaucracy? Do we really NEED 200,000 of our fellowcitizens working for DHS? Have we become such a nation of wusscakes that we need a Department of Homeland Security? And DHS is just for starters. How did we EVER get along without 20,000,000 fuddy-duddydam bureaucrats looking over our shoulders & charging us fees and fines? I’m sick of the Big Labor Big Government paradigm. Next, please!

Posted by: spoofproof | July 27, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Rick: Don’t be ridiculous and stop watching Fox News! Obama is not trying to take you down; it’s the TEA Party and the GOP that’s trying to take you down.

Posted by: justuspofolks | July 27, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Where is the tea party, they were all demonstrating against health care a few months ago. Could it be that the older members of the party are thinking about their social security and medicare benefits.
The tea party is a joke, financed by the health insurance industry, they no more represent America than the KKK represented America.

Posted by: tferretti | July 27, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Ron Paul is the GODFATHER of the Tea Party! Not Bachman, Not Palin, Not Romney. McCain is a Neo Conservative so know wonder he is mad. He is far left of center. We need to eliminate government agencies T O D A Y. We do not need Dept. of Education or Homeland Security for just a start. We definatly DO NOT NEED to be in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people have spoken, big government, non constitutional government must fricken D I E !

Posted by: Randall Underwood | July 27, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Ron Paul is the GODFATHER of the Tea Party! Not Bachman, Not Palin, Not Romney. McCain is a Neo Conservative so know wonder he is mad. He is far left of center. We need to eliminate government agencies T O D A Y. We do not need Dept. of Education or Homeland Security for just a start. We definatly DO NOT NEED to be in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people have spoken, big government, non constitutional government must fricken D I E !

Posted by: Randall Underwood | July 27, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Opinionator: Boy, you are so misled following those hypocritical right wing yahoos!! God help us with misled people like you voting against your own interests.

Posted by: justuspofolks | July 27, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

It’s always been about class warfare…unfortunately, the wealthy in this country frame the arguments and NEVER have to verbalize it as such!
All “non-wealthy” citizens need to wake up.

Posted by: I.b.black | July 27, 2011, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Arlen Spectre said “he” was a ‘Republican’ until it suited him to be a Democrat. John McAmnesty has already proven that he is a Democrat at his core and , like, Spectre, he only says what he thinks will get him elected again! “He’s a politician too, that’s what politicians do”!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

TEA vs GOP
If you invite a devil for dinner, the devil will eat you. The TEA baggers are made of ANTI-everything that made American great. The Tea devils are now holding the Republican party Hostage. Now is the moment of choice for the Republicans between the :
Tea or Sanity, Cult or Party, Dumb or Wise, Special Interest CLOVER or American Interest GLOVER, Patriot or Anarchist, The BEST or WORST

Posted by: James N | July 27, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

I figure the Republicans will take the Democrat’s place when the Democrat faction ceases to be. I suppose then that the majority of the voters in the country will decide on a replacement for the position the Republicans now claim to stand at. One thing is for certain. It’s all going to change………And soon. I hope “We, The People” come out on top as we should. The Tea Party movement, (a loose collection of like minded people, [who have already changed the face of politics]), aren’t even an organized party and Democrats and Republicans alike are completely bi-partisan in their collective belief that an unorganized band of citizens is an EVIL thing! Those “EVIL” Tea Party members are your friends, your neighbors, your family and your fellow Americans. But I guess one SHOULD be afraid of them. They’re wrecking the gravy train for the social leaches out there!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Vote them all out at the poles, democrats and republicans. None of them get it. The cuts that all of them are suggesting will never take place, it’s a big smoke screen. The Tea Party is on the right track.

Posted by: Dan Winters | July 27, 2011, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Political groups are exactly like religious groups. They are only as powerful as the number of believers. The fewer believers they have, the less power they have. The next election will decide who is right and who is not. Everyone already has their minds made up on this one. The sniping is pure politics designed to sway the weak minded. The weak minded ARE swayed by smooth, (but meaningless), talk. Every body else thinks for themselves. That’s why it’s ‘nothing happening’ on Capital Hill! It’s the ‘cooler heads’ keeping the Insaniacs at bay!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Way too much rhetoric and taking of a hard stance. The is the USA first, not Republicans and Democrats. Somebody somewhere has to offer a voice of reason, and a majority of congress and Obama have to listen to it. Or NONE of them will be re-elected.
Balanced budget amendment is the way to go, but not under duress. A golden rule in finance is to never take a deal when looking down the barrel of a gun if you can avoid it. We can. Here’s the scenario:
You make good money but have been sloppy about managing it, and fallen behind on paying down your credit. In fact, you are about to default on your mortgage, but the bank calls and says, “We believe you can actually get your financial house in order and have the wherewithal to pay your mortgage, so instead of foreclosing you, we will give you a bridge loan at a low rate for 6 months, but you have to agree to restructure your finances, and we will audit your process. If you don’t restructure and prove ability to pay, we reserve the right to take your home after 6 months.”
Would you do it? Sure you would.
Raise the ceiling, tie it to middling spending reduction without specification as to source, and to an eventual balanced budget, on a schedule. Laws can always be changed. Let tax rates float higher on those making $1m/year after loopholes, I mean c’mon. Then take 6 months to work the details. And please focus on jobs. You know Obama if you have held off on healthcare, and focused on jobs, we might not be arguing so much, in fact there might not be a dumb Tea Party. Big mistake. Don’t get me wrong, I LIKE the healthcare package, works great in MA. But the timing? Well, it sucked, period.
Something in the middle please, now! Nothing is forcing Tea Party conservatives to be so dogmatic, and far left Dems don’t have to toe the liberal line. Both sides give up the ghost a little, and we can start moving forward in this country again.
This is the USA. This is not Tea Party. This is not Liberal Land.

Posted by: Mr. Mystery | July 27, 2011, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

At this point, I am almost in favor of the tea party winning with their position and no budget gets passed with a tax increase and a balance budget. It will give all Americans a chance to see if they are correct. If they are, they will gain power in the next election. If they are wrong, they will no longer exist. I think things will get much worse in America as we cut back our services and military power to make the budget balanced. Even though I think the tea party is wrong, I know that I am not an economic expert or a national budget expert either. I am willing to be wrong if the tea party turns out to be correct. At least something was changed. The two major parties have accomplished nothing for decades.

Posted by: MikeMo10947 | July 27, 2011, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Oh yeah McCain is opening his mouth again to get into the public light. He doesn’t realize that the only reason he is still in the Senate is because AZ wasn’t given a worthwhile candidate to run against him. It would be nice if Mccain would realize that Arizonans Know he is a fraud and so does the rest of the country so it is time for to go out to pasture. Preferably somewhere outside the USA and take the Obamas and other American haters with them.
Yes, McCain is a BIG part of the problem. The way for him to help solve it is to move out of the way and let the young people have a chance at fixing his mistakes.

Posted by: McCain needs retirment NOW | July 27, 2011, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Even though it’s useless to try to apply the, (up until now), existing political dynamics to the current political environment, we still try. The very nature of the Tea Party movement makes it a very real danger to the political well being of the ‘established’ political factions. Will we see one faction completely and knowingly destroy itself to prove a misguided point? And then the Republicans want to do it TOO. Just at a slower pace!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

I respect the man for is service to our country,but most of these people IS ABUSED THEIR POWER AND POSITION!!!!

Posted by: PERRY | July 27, 2011, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Just about every commenter on here has shown nothing but ignorance by turning this into a liberal vs conservative, democrat vs republican argument. Calling President Obama or Senator McCain a name does nothing to help inform those you disagree with – all you’re doing is building up walls that people feel they need to attack – and the cycle continues.
If all you do is sling hate filled talking points back and forth – you’re doing exactly what the people in charge want. You’re fighting each other, while they keep screwing us all over. I’ll sit down with anyone of any political view and have a rational talk about how we can fix things – but the second you impose your will on mine, you’ve lost my support, and you’ve stomped on the meaning of America.

Posted by: Serius | July 27, 2011, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

I’m going to withold comment on these a) insightful or b) ill concieved comments until I hear from Fox news for my talking point. John McCain has finally risen to the task of a) providing needed guidance to the freshmen or b) destroying his remaining credibility as a Republican. Gotta go, Hannity’s on. Stay tuned, we’re gonna a) fry or b) praise ol Maverick McCain. I’m so a) ticked off or b) elated over this!!!!

Posted by: george | July 27, 2011, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

george, You’ve just got to get over that obsessive need to be so exact, precise and definite about things! ;-}

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 27, 2011, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

People what he is trying to say is:
1. Politics is being put before the people.
2. A balance amendment cannot pass with the current politicians in Washington so stop trying to pass something that will not pass and concentrate on a plan to actually fix the problem.

Posted by: colocopoco | July 27, 2011, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I’ll expect to see a retraction tomorrow. McCain did not blast the Tea Party. He was reading an article from another liberal RAG!!

Posted by: melatr7 | July 27, 2011, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Would someone pass on to John McCain and congress that the American people are THE TEA PARTY PEOPLE from coast to coast accross this great nation.A great number of us has never voted before,now WE THE PEOPLE will vote McCain and most all of congress out of office forever.

Posted by: Charles bond | July 27, 2011, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

America has a cancer, the cancers name is the tea party. This cancer has a propoganda wing which is run by a notorious criminal from Australia. History will blame fair minded Americans for not trying to cut out this cancer. We are headed for the dust bin of history as all American productivity has been transfered to China with Russia, Australia and Brazil more than eager to supply them with all the raw materials and energy they will need to make the USA part what is soon to be one of the poorest continents on the planet.

Posted by: grim reaper | July 28, 2011, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Perception is kind of an odd thing. I see the tea Party as the “cure” for the cancer that has taken over America. (After all, cancer is cells gone wild and out of control. That is what the tea party was formed to control)! America has suffered from the cancer for a long time so the Tea Party, by default, could not BE the cancer. But opponents to rational and reasonable fiscal responsibility wouldn’t see that, by conscious choice! Gloom and doom always comes out at some point. It’s just so old and sounds too much like “the boy who cried wolf”!

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 28, 2011, 1:22 am 1:22 am

McCain is one of the most dishonest and dishonorable members in Congress. The man has never seen another country he didn’t want to invade. He’s a menace and no patriot. He can only wrap himself in the flag so many times before it just doesn’t work anymore.

Posted by: parker | July 28, 2011, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Well, I think parker nailed it. That sums up how I feel.

Posted by: aahzy | July 28, 2011, 1:43 am 1:43 am

One thing for sure is that republicans and tea parties will lose heavily in the next election. People are getting sick of them. They are just disgusting.

Posted by: Morris | July 28, 2011, 2:22 am 2:22 am

Mccain again.That liar who thinks he’s the smartest in the room.Three time loser.All around wobbly rino.Why is he still around?I guess when he became a catholic he think somebody up there likes him.He must have paid off to get into the cathoiic church.Do we really need him?

Posted by: charles a pembroke | July 28, 2011, 4:07 am 4:07 am

mytakeonthis61, Brigbard you are so imature its not even funny. Its discusting. Stop acting like a child and grow up here. Stop jumping up and down like you know everything. Get a job and a live and do something besides act like a special child on these forums.

Posted by: succab | July 28, 2011, 8:32 am 8:32 am

McCain is a shameless RINO. How is this guy can still be a Senator?
His presidential campaign was nothing but a living proof of stupidity and betrayal.
1. The “surge”! Who gave a crap about you mental masterbation self-indulge! JOBS that was what the people need, you idiot PTSD ! I could stand to listen to his presidential debate.
2. RINO not Marverick. McCain.

Posted by: acdc2012 | July 28, 2011, 11:20 am 11:20 am

RINO with Keating Five scandal on his resume!
A crook is always a crook. When someone abuse the ” My friend” expression, watch out!

Posted by: acdc2012 | July 28, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am

The Democrats and some Republicans are very bi-partisan in their hatred of the Tea Party movement. Suspicious? Yes! Even when locked in semi-mortal combat, they find the comraderie to jointly condemn the Tea Party movement in a bi-partisan fashion. Why? Always remember that “bi-partisan” means “We, The People” get screwed without opposition.

Posted by: jfhdsiu | July 28, 2011, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

For you idiots who call yourself conservatives and are in favor of the Boehner plan. This country will never see the spending cuts. They’ll be promised in the future when no Congress or President will be required to uphold the promises of the Congress and President today.
You people disgust me. Lucy has pulled the football away again and you think you’ve kicked the winning field goal.
Do the the Tea Party a favor and quit acting like you’re a part of it.

Posted by: KH | July 28, 2011, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I have to thank McCain for pushing the Tea party to the front in 2008 – the massive spending, the Bail outs, Conservatives had no place to go when he stopped his campaign to back the unconstitutional Bail outs.
The jackass (oops) The RINO still does not get it.. IT’s the spending Stupid!
People in politics Like McCain ARE THE PROBLEM.

Posted by: Tom Martin | July 28, 2011, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

yeah,mccain…good on you

Posted by: teresa | July 28, 2011, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

I wish John McCain will just shut up.

Posted by: Oscar Castro | July 29, 2011, 12:14 am 12:14 am

We can always count on Senator McCain to side with the opposition.’He’s just one of the elitist DC types we need to get out of Congress.

Posted by: Kala | July 29, 2011, 10:37 am 10:37 am

What I see is that the Republicans are being held hostage by the Tea Party and instead of going to the other (Representatives i.e. Democrats) they decided to deal with the Devil. These Tea Party folks represent lots of corporations; the same people that would benefit if this country goes into default. That’s right big corporations would actually benefit. Now you know the truth. They are not willing to negotiate; not willing to do a balance approach. Gee I wonder why.

Posted by: Tony | July 29, 2011, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

I am 78years old and cannot remember such foolishness.
I will say it again and again, CAP the debt NOW.
All of the chaos predicted by this action could be handled by simply repealing Obamacare.
The big money people hidding in the background would be the losers.

Posted by: Henry V. Lake | July 30, 2011, 1:14 am 1:14 am

McCain, the wicked witch of the SW, has been doused with water over the last few days & has melted down. Politically, he has bent over & kissed his sweet ass good-bye. At long last I hope.

Posted by: dick0645 | July 30, 2011, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

TERM LIMITS TO CLEAN HOUSE,GOOD BYE PELOSI,REID,MCCAIN,BOEHNER,SO LONG CHARLIE RANGEL! GIVE ME A T TEA PARTY,GET READY WERE A COMIN.ENJOY YOUR 1 TERM OBAMA.

Posted by: Dan | July 31, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Contrary to all the usual BS parroting, the tea party is not a group but a movement. Many groups have been started based on it, many by republicans trying to hijack the movement. But it was started because people are fed up with the out of control government growth. Those elected last year were sent there to make spending cuts and tax cuts. That ACTUAL cuts, REAL cuts, not the two faced republicrat party’s twisted definition of “cuts” as less extreme growth. The house is where, constitutionally, spending originates. They should say no to any more borrowing, no raising of the debt limit at all for any reason under any deal. Just say no. Let the senate and Obama learn to understand that they can’t have their way and they can’t borrow any more. There’s no “default” looming. You don’t default on your credit card by not borrowing more. That’s just total BS.

Posted by: WRJames | July 31, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

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