By Shush Walshe

Aug 1, 2011 6:03pm

Both the Left and Right Sour on Debt Deal

ABC News’ Shushannah Walshe (@shushwalshe) reports

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada today echoed the feelings of people on both ends of the political spectrum who say they feel cut out of the final debt deal, but still urged members of Congress to vote for the compromise.

“People on the right are upset. People on the left are upset. People in the middle are upset. It was a compromise,” Reid said on the Senate floor. “Today congress has a unique responsibility to show the world we can achieve not in spite of our divided government, but because of it.”

Despite the urging from congressional leaders that their members vote for the deal ahead of Tuesday’s default deadline, both lawmakers and outside groups are saying no and are pleading with — even threatening — legislators from their side of the aisle to cast a no vote. 

One of the most colorful objections to the deal was Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, who said the compromise was a rejection of Democratic values.

"This is a Satan sandwich,” Cleaver told ABC News. “There's no question about it, because there's nothing inside this sandwich that the major religions of the world would say deals with protection for the poor, the widows, the children — it's not in here.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., is also angry about the deal. He said Sunday that the Republicanshave been absolutely determined to make certain that the rich and large corporations not contribute one penny for deficit reduction, and that all of the sacrifice comes from the middle class and working families” in terms of cuts in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, education and other programs.

Sanders said he won’t vote for the bill because the “Reid proposal balances the budget on the backs of struggling Americans while not requiring one penny of sacrifice from the wealthiest people in our country.  That is not only grotesquely immoral, it is bad economic policy."

It’s not just Democrats who are upset. The conservative Club for Growth said it “strongly oppose(s)” the debt deal and made sure that members knew the group was serious about its rejection, warning lawmakers in a letter sent to all congressional offices that the vote will be included in the Club’s 2011 Congressional Scorecard.

“The problems with this proposal are many, but fiscal conservatives should have obvious concerns for the lack of guaranteed future spending cuts, no requirement that a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution be sent to the states, a commission that could still recommend job-killing tax increases, and worse of all, two debt limit increases totaling over $2 trillion within only a matter of months,” wrote Andrew Roth, the group’s vice president for government affairs.

ABC News’ Jon Karl reported Monday that while talking to members of Congress walking out of meetings of the House Democrats meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and House Republicans meeting with Speaker John Boehner that Republicans are “much more positive about the debt deal than Democrats.” 

It seems that the progressive community is the most upset with the deal. One group, Progressive Change Campaign Committee, is reminding people that more than 200,000 people pledged on their website to only volunteer and donate to Democrats in 2012 who “oppose cuts to Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. These people gave over 2.5 million volunteer hours and over $17 million to Obama in 2008.” A clear warning to Democrats thinking about voting yes.

In a statement, PCCC co-founder Adam Green said the “deal will kill our economy and is an attack on middle-class families.”

"It asks nothing of the rich, will reduce middle-class jobs, and lines up Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid for cuts. Today, we're putting in thousands of calls to Congress urging Democrats to keep their promise and oppose this awful bill. The 14th Amendment is unambiguous, and President Obama should invoke it to pay our nation's debt. Then Democrats should focus on jobs — not cuts — in order to grow our economy,” the statement read.

MoveOn.org is another liberal group angry about the deal and said it had surveyed its 5 million members and the “vast majority oppose the deal because it unfairly asks seniors and the middle class to bear the burden of the debt deal.” In a fiery statement Executive Director Justin Ruben urges “Congress to do what it should have done long ago and what it has done dozens of times before — pass a clean debt ceiling bill.”

“This is a bad deal for our fragile economic recovery, a bad deal for the middle class and a bad deal for tackling our real long-term budget problems. It forces deep cuts to important programs that protect the middle class, but asks nothing of big corporations and millionaires. And though it does not require cuts to Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid benefits, it opens the door for these down the road via an unaccountable Congressional committee,” Ruben’s statement read.

The Strengthen Social Security Campaign also rejected the deal calling it a “recipe to raid Social Security, and harm the economic security of American workers and their families.”

The group works to limit cuts to social security and said they are “pleased” that the “first set of spending cuts does not include cuts to Social Security,” but they “object to the proposed super Committee of Congress, which can recommend changes to Social Security that will have to be considered on a fast-track basis, without amendment and without the opportunity for unlimited debate in the Senate.” 

On the other side of the aisle, tea partiers are also saying the compromise doesn’t reflect their priorities although it’s clear they seem to believe their side made out better on the deal. Levi Russell, the communications director of the Tea Party Express called the deal a “great first step,” but that “most of Congress is only talking about getting responsible, and not quite all the way to taking real action on it. This plan does nothing to fundamentally improve our economy and change course from the last several years of skyrocketing spending.”

Russell added that “real change” can only happen if the tea party “repeats the electoral success of 2010 again in 2012” stressing that will be their “primary focus for the next 15 or so months.”

“The tea party has been victorious in that the debate has been changed from how much to spend, to how much and where to cut,” Russell told ABC News.

Two tea party lawmakers, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and Rep. Jeff Duncan, R-S.C., told ABC News’ Amy Walter and Z. Byron Wolf on “Topline” today that even though they won’t be voting for the bill they also believe the Tea Party won out in the final deal. 

“The fact that we're now having a serious discussion about debts where we're talking about cutting spending, that there's no tax increases that we're talking about right now, that's a huge — at least moral victory, I think — for a lot of fiscal conservatives that were concerned about the financial health of this country,” Chaffetz said.

And Duncan said the freshman Republican and the tea party “had an impact on this process” and “got us talking about cuts to government spending.”

“We're talking about deficit reduction. We're talking about the nation's debt, and we're talking about getting our fiscal house in order,” Duncan said.

FreedomWorks, another tea party-aligned group, has a similar outlook on the deal. FreedomWorks President Matthew Kibbe told Walter that even if the bill passes, the group doesn’t see it as a defeat for the movement, stressing that the Tea Party has “fundamentally changed the conversation in Washington” and “we will have this debate about spending priorities going all the way until the 2012 elections.”

The Club for Growth might have warned lawmakers that this vote will go on their scorecard, but Kibbe says they will “look at all their votes, not just this one.” As an example, Kibbe used Rep. Allen West, a tea party hero, who is reportedly going to support the legislation. 

“Generally speaking,” Kibbe told Walter, West has been “leading the charge” when it comes to tea party issues. He added that this vote alone won’t cause FreedomWorks to turn on him.

The Cut, Cap and Balance Coalition, a group of hundreds of tea party chapters and more than fifty conservative legislators, also came out Sunday opposing the debt deal.

While they “applaud the efforts” of Boehner and senate minority leader Mitch McConnell they said they couldn’t support the deal because it doesn’t meet their requirement for a balanced budget amendment. “The most glaring shortcoming is that the second debt ceiling increase in this package isn’t tied directly to Congressional approval of a balanced budget amendment as a pre-condition,” the group said. “It may therefore be avoided altogether."

The anger on both sides will undoubtedly have political fallout. The 2012 GOP presidential candidates have all rejected the legislation, except for Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and now The Hill is reporting that Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina may go back on his vow not to support primary challenges to incumbent GOP senators.

The Hill reported today that DeMint is “angry enough with the debt ceiling compromise” that he “may back serious challengers to Republican senators who support the plan, according to a source close to the senator.”

GOP senators who may face a primary challenge from the right include Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana and Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the two longest serving lawmakers in the senate.

 

 

 

 

User Comments

Wake up no one won. All that debt is still there. And no one has come up with a plan
to pay it down in the next 5 years. It is always a 10 year plan because the next Majority throws the plan out and we are back to bust. We need to act like sports
owners, get results if not fire them.

Posted by: deadwrestler | August 1, 2011, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

DeMint on the Senate floor just stated he’s not voting for the bill.

Posted by: David From Texas | August 1, 2011, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

David From Tx…som who cares. Demint has no credibilty outside the auspices of the tea party South. NONE!n All because he ‘flip flops and ‘PANDERS’. aND loL…IT ISN’T THE ‘INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED OR ENLIGHTENED’ THAT HE panders to.

Posted by: CND FOX | August 1, 2011, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

They should have had the guts to tax the rich, plain and simple. Now the poor and the middle class will have to carry these wealthy freeloaders on their backs for a couple more years, until someone in the White House has the guts to repeal the tax cuts George Bush gave all his wealthy friends before we kicked him out of the White House.

Posted by: robinfff | August 1, 2011, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

repeal the tax cuts George Bush gave all his wealthy friends
psst! Robin, Bush’s term was up.No one kicked him out. But I not being a wealthy person myself know that if the cuts expire I will responsible for a few grand more each year.
None of this will ever be solved until the tax code is straightened out,until jobs that really support people are somehow created and the 50% who don’t pay taxes begin to step up and pitch in to help.

Posted by: david | August 1, 2011, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

it’s probably a good thing if both right and left are upset about it. but still, it would hardly make a dent on the debt and deficits we have in 10 years. we have to see if there will be any serious tax reform on the table from the joint committee later this year, because that’s one of the only right things to do for American people and this nation.

Posted by: sabniz | August 1, 2011, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

ROBINFFF posted this untrue statement. “They should have had the guts to tax the rich, plain and simple. Now the poor and the middle class will have to carry these wealthy freeloaders on their backs for a couple more years, until someone in the White House has the guts to repeal the tax cuts George Bush gave all his wealthy friends before we kicked him out of the White House.”/////////Well ROBINFFF amazing disconnect from reality. Even for a Liberal you are way out there. Since when have the “poor and middle taxes been carrying the rich?
Currently the top 5% pay over 65% of the income taxes. And the top 25% pay 86% of all income taxes. By the way the top 25% used to pay 84% in 2000.
In 1980 when the top tax rate was 70% the top 1% paid only 19% of all the income taxes. Today it is more than double that. AND YES THAT IS AFTER BUSH!! These facts come from the Wall Street Journal and the IRS.
So you are obviously not getting the facts. You should stop the class warfare rants and get your facts right before you insert your foot into your mouth again.
In addition this whole Obama attempt to vilify the EVIL RICH is like most of his arguments lacking in facts. He calls for taxing billionaires as a way to balance the budget. There just is not enough money out there to do that. According to the IRS the net worth of the American billionaires is some 1.3 Trillion dollars. If we passed a law that took EVERY penny that they had it still would not be enough to pay one year of Obama’s deficit!!! And you could only do it once because then you have taken all of their money. So nice try but factually wrong on EVERYTHING…….

Posted by: RichardBall1 | August 2, 2011, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Did Cleaver say “sugar-coated Satan sandwich”?

Posted by: munkiman | August 2, 2011, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I love a good SLT: a satan, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the satan is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They’re so perky, I love that.

Posted by: John | August 2, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

I am an attending and contributing member of the Tea Party. Please allow me to correct a few misperceptions:
1) Our primary purpose on balancing the budget is to protect SS and Medicare. Like you, we’ve paid for them all our lives. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing them phased out over 50 years into a private system like your 401k. That way, they cannot be raided by politicians. Your money belongs to you.
2) We are primarily about spending; we do not reflexively object to ending tax breaks for corporations. Tax breaks and subsidies skew market forces. We do not want higher taxes, but like you we object to the government playing favorites in industry.
3) We love our men and women in uniform, but we do not object to putting the Department of Defense on a crash diet. The military procurement process is a crime and astronomically wasteful. For instance, the f-22 program cost $65 billion dollars to build 180 planes. Those days are over.

Posted by: John | August 2, 2011, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Not really. This is all just political theater. There isn’t a dime’s worth of truth in the Dems moaning and complaining, and the GOP got more than has ever been gotten, in 45 yrs, in debt reduction, as this is the first time we have had a single dollar in debt reduction, for 45 yrs, even if the total amount is miniscule.
The Dems came out ahead, the GOP made a strong point, and now the people have to decide next year, whether to support the Dems, as the “welfare party”, or whether they want to be Americans, and earn their way in this world, through hard work, and demand that government be responsive to the people, in creating jobs.
That is the bottom line.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 2, 2011, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

RICK MCDANIEL posted this: ” in 45 yrs, in debt reduction, as this is the first time we have had a single dollar in debt reduction, for 45 yrs, even if the total amount is miniscule.” //// Well Rick with all due respect this is not REALLY a debt reduction. I would suggest the correct term is a reduction in the speed of us going into MORE debt. All this does is instead of a program getting say an 8% increase in funding it will get say a 5% increase. The dollar amounts from year to year will continue to go up. What Americans MUST understand is that Washington uses something called “baseline budgeting”. Baseline budgeting means that if an agency say had a budget last year of say 10 billion then this year they get a budget of the same plus an 8% AUTOMATIC increase without EVEN asking. That is why EVERY year the US Budget goes up. We need to return to ZERO Based budgeting. That is where you look at an agency and see what they did with the money last year and then make a NEW budget AFTER thinking about it based upon needs, effectiveness etc. ANYTHING else will cause us to go into bankruptcy.

Posted by: RichardBall1 | August 2, 2011, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Let’s review some numbers. With today’s farce of a budget deal we owe will another 2.4 Trillion dollars. Before today we probably owed some 14.6 Trillion. We passed 14.3 trillion months ago and are just moving money around to avoid a default. That takes us to 17 Trillion. ObamaCare which is right around the corner will cost some 2.4 Trillion to fully implement according to the Congressional Budget Office. That takes us to Just under 20 Trillion dollars that we will owe at the end of 2012. (By the way that is nearly DOUBLE from what it was when Bush left office. So Obama DOUBLED the national debt from 10.6 Trillion to just under 20 Trillion.)
The interest ALONE at just 5% will be 1 Trillion dollars EVERY SINGLE year.
That is equal to TEN times what the wars were costing us.
Using Obama’s own budget we would add ANOTHER 12 Trillion dollars in NEW debt in the next ten years. That would take us to 32 Trillion dollars. This budget “cuts” (read above about baseline budgeting) 2 trillion dollars.
America has 2 choices either STOP SPENDING or Go into bankruptcy. There is not other choices. And as a final note Obama has plans to hire 600,000 NEW people for the Federal Government. He has already hired over 200,000. The size of government has skyrocketed from 18% of GDP to almost 25% of GDP. That is more than a 1/3 increase in the size of the Federal Government. Do we REALLY need 1/3 more government. We sure can not pay for it.

Posted by: RichardBall1 | August 2, 2011, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Republicans have done more damage to America than any terrorist ever could.
The Republican game plan is to destroy the economy blame the Democrats and Pres. Obama. This is their strategy to obtain the White House and the Senate in the 2012 elections. If you think the Republicans are death on average Americans, working-class and middle-class people now. Just think of how much more damage they could do to this country if they had the house,the Senate and the presidency to consolidate power to do whatever they want. They would then have free reign to turn America into the Third World country that they want for their corporate overlords.
They’ve already shown their hand by not approving extended unemployment benefits for people and anything else that would help the average American. Then they took America to the brink of default with the debt ceiling crisis. A crisis in which they created. Republicans on the supreme court ruling corporations are people and therefore can give unlimited funding to politicians. For those reasons and more I can’t imagine any thinking working-class poor or middle-class person voting to support Republicans after all the damage they’ve done to this country. Americans must reject republicans at town hall meetings and the polls for their anti American unpatriotic strategy and tactics. The only difference between Timothy McVie and the republicans is he used explosives and they used their congressional positions.
The phoney debt ceiling debate and agreement is another part of the republican game plan to take back the senate and white house. They create artificial crisis to stall (run out the clock on President Obama’s term) and cripple him and the economy to prevent JOBS from being discussed or created. They are counting on voters blaming the president for the bad economy even though they the republicans are sabotaging every step of the way. Even a blind man can see republicans couldn’t care less for average Americans. Just imagine what they would do if they controlled the house, senate and presidency. Americans cannot let that happen. Because it is crystal clear by the behavior of republicans they do not want America to progress and will hold it hostage to prevent it. They also want to suppress interest in voting by screwing up government so bad as to make people disinterested in voting. Thus paving the way for their zealots to keep them in office.

Posted by: GOP = Domestic Terrorist | August 3, 2011, 1:19 am 1:19 am

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