Obama in Dead Heat with Romney, Perry, Paul, Bachmann in Gallup Poll
ABC News’ Devin Dwyer (@devindwyer) reports: President Obama is in a statistical dead heat when matched with each of four GOP presidential contenders in a hypothetical 2012 election match-up, according to a new Gallup survey of registered voters.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney leads Obama by a 48 percent to 46 percent margin, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry ties the president at 47 percent. Obama bests Ron Paul by a 47-45 divide and Michele Bachmann by 48-44 split. All results are within a 4-point margin of error.
While Obama has polled consistently close against a generic Republican in recent months, the new findings show the race remains competitive even when specific candidates, each with varying degrees of name recognition and popularity, are juxtaposed with the president.
Obama’s approval rating on the economy, the top election issue among registered voters, hit a new low in Gallup polling last week: Just 26 percent approve of Obama, while 71 percent disapprove. His overall job approval stands at 40 percent.
Still, the latest survey suggests Obama’s approval numbers underestate the support he’d likely receive at the ballot box when matched against a Republican if the election were held today.
With more than a year before Nov. 6, 2012, however, pollsters note the presidential horserace can and will change.
Consider, from Gallup: at this point in 1999, George W. Bush was crushing Al Gore in a Gallup match-up, but then barely beat him on election day. Bob Dole was in a dead heat with Bill Clinton in August 1995 before Clinton later beat him by eight points more than a year later. And, in the summer of 1979, Jimmy Carter was tied with Ronald Reagan before getting walloped at the ballot box in 1980.

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I thought the media said there was only three top tier candidates?! How did Ron Paul get so competitive???? I was told he was unelectable.
Posted by: Marcelo | August 22, 2011, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Regardless of today’s polls Obama is a near guaranteed one-termer. He’s an empty suit with no plans and no clue and people, even a rare few in the media, are finally catching on.
Unless something dramatic happens between now and election day we’ll see a continued economic slump (or worse) and no more Obama after January 2013.
That, at least, provides a glimmer of hope for our nation’s future.
Posted by: Erik | August 22, 2011, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
“Consider, from Gallup: at this point in 1999, George W. Bush was crushing Al Gore in a Gallup match-up, but then barely beat him on election day. Bob Dole was in a dead heat with Bill Clinton in August 1995 before Clinton later beat him by eight points more than a year later. And, in the summer of 1979, Jimmy Carter was tied with Ronald Reagan before getting walloped at the ballot box in 1980.”
Gee, which one of these scenarios is most similar here! Not good news for the second coming of Jimmy Carter, eh!
Posted by: Obama, the Second Coming | August 22, 2011, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Lord help us all of a Repub makes it to the White House in 2012! Most of the country will be sleeping in the streets!
Posted by: Lorrie | August 22, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I dont believe this one bit. This conflicts with every poll on how bad tea party is seen after the fiasco session in congress. How can you say the same people will vote for Rick perry who would vote for ROmney. I will tell you right now I will vote for Romney but NO WAY would i vote for Ron Paul or Perry. No way, no way, Ron Paul would ever be elected president. Nor Perry. Just wait until folks REALLY get to listen to these clown. Imagine Perry versus Obama in a debate. McCain sank speedily after the debates and he was head and shoulders better at debating than either Perry or Paul, ROmney would obviously be better in a debate than Obama but the other two…please. It would seal Obama’s second term. If you think obama is guarrenteed to lose, i dont know, brace yourself. the only one who can beat obama is Romney. Watch and see.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
How did Ron Paul get so competitive???? —because nobody has actually listend to his speak for a nanosecond. Give him MORE airtime. Just like Perry. The more moderates listen to him, the more Perry sinks. The only one who has a prayer against Obama is Romney. Dont kid yourself. Put up a stupid texan or a wingnut, and you better be prepared for Obama for 4 more years.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Just wait until folks REALLY get to listen to these clown. Imagine Perry versus Obama in a debate.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | Aug 22, 2011 5:56:46 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but independents are already tiring of the sound of President Obama’s speaking voice. He has overexposed himself. His reputation as the World’s Greatest Orator doesn’t send up all that well after all of those interminable speeches, in which he appears to be diverted by a nearby tennis match while uttering “Make No Mistake,” “Let Me Be Clear,” and droppin’ his Gs when among the folks.
That’s why Perry’s straight-talking Texan shtick is attracting some even as it repels others. Many people are tired of President Obama’s verbosity. Those “others” probably would never vote for him anyway, and he’s the main subject of attacks by the liberal media, so he must be doing something “right,” so to speak.
Posted by: Oliver Shagnasty | August 22, 2011, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Romney is the only candidate that can beat Obama regardless of what these early polls say. The other candidates are too far right for most independant voters and for some liberals
Posted by: Kevin | August 22, 2011, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Obama can’t even out poll Bachman. How pathetic has Obama become????
Posted by: christychristy | August 22, 2011, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Ron Paul is the only candidate that will actually fight for the people instead of for the big govt or corporations. His views differ from the norm, which is great because the norm isn’t working. He has a plan and its desperately needed.
Vote for Ron Paul!
Posted by: Rick Paul III | August 22, 2011, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Obama lost my vote when he started another war without ending the 2 were already fighting. Anybody but Obama 2012
Posted by: holla32 | August 22, 2011, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Romney is the only candidate that can beat Obama regardless of what these early polls say. — I agree. I am the perfect example of this. Voted for Scott Brown but not this time. I’m disgusted what a republican congress has done. Perry came to NH and although not published in national newspapers, there were tons of people protesting him, no way he could win this state. It was NOT friendly to him. Romney comes and everyone follow him around like puppies. ROmney is respected. Sorry ,but that is a trump card some wackjob Ron Paul or dumb bunny Perry wishes they had.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
At this point I would rather see a Tele-Tubbie in the White House than BHO.He is nothing more than a celebrity that has been a really good reader. He is exactly like Palin, at least she love this country. I wish BHO,Oprah,Charlie Sheen, Rosie O’Donnel and Bill Mahers would move to a distant island and have a lovefest. God help us in 2012 get rid of this man BHO. MAYBE Soros will hire him, to speak or do his corporate videos.
Posted by: TX Kracker | August 22, 2011, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Well, New Hempshire does better than Texas, low taxes and low poverty. New Hempshire people know that Perry like s the low taxes and high poverty rate of Texas. Granted, Texas as a lot more hispanics than NH.
Posted by: cynthia Curran | August 22, 2011, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Consider this: Dr Paul has received more campaign donations from members of the US military than Obama. He has received more campaign donations from members of the US military than ALL of the republican pres candidates COMBINED! Thats a fact.
If you really support our troops, you should support the man that they want to lead them, with is Dr Ron Paul. Research him, he is a great leader and we could use his help.
Posted by: MARSH | August 22, 2011, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
At this point I would rather see a Tele-Tubbie in the White House than BHO===you’re a wing nut. You felt that way since day 1. I voted for Obama, and I’d vote for him again. Or not. I’d vote for Romney first. But I’m not voting for him in the primaries. Let’s see who the republicans put on their ticket. You put up radical wingnut, you’ll lose..HUGE. Promise.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Romney who created Obamacare… against the man who implemented Obamacare??? Well somebody graduated from a Public school… I can see THAT very clearly….
At this point Jimmy Carter could beat Obama…
Posted by: IdiocyfromABC | August 22, 2011, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Texas as a lot more hispanics than NH.
—as a percentage of population Texas has no more mexicans than Arizona or CA, yet it sucks, absolutely sucks at everything except making people poor WHILE they work. Texas has the most billionaires in any state in this nation, yet it is number 1 in child poverty, MUCH higher percentage of children in texas live under the poverty level than any other state in the nation, this is a state of billionaires and their education is dead last. Their kids are by far, the dumbest, the most behind, than any other state in the nation, WHILE They make hundreds of billions in revenue. Ok, you really have to try hard to suck that bad at being governor. Give someone a nanosecond to say this in a debate and Perry is sunk like a brick ship.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Devin, a point of correction: George W. Bush did not “barely beat” Al Gore on Election Day. Gore polled 550,000 more votes than W on Election Day, and it took a GOP Supreme Court majority to hand the election to Bush.
Posted by: Steve | August 22, 2011, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Nobody cares what little man thinks anyway. But I find it funny not to find Huntsman anywhere in sight who appears to be a left arm for Obama and is doing his best to push for his reelection. Americans have much more intelligence than Huntsman and Obama gives us credit for. Anybody with any sense and logic can see right through the humorus attacks made by the likes of Huntsman, Obama, Biden and most recently Maxine Waters.
Posted by: J HERRERA | August 22, 2011, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
UR Little Mindless Friend —
Wing Nut with a Doctorate. Radical not hardly, just logical, and have some common sense. Believe me, Romney and Perry both would wax BHO,unless the ACORN Crowd and the labor unions drive all the illegals to the polls. Oh yes, the trial lawyers will show up too, along with the Hollywood dipsticks. Middle America has gotten what they voted for and thank God they are now aware enough to rid us of BHO from anymore destruction. Love,Dr.Radical Wing-Nut
Posted by: TX Kracker | August 22, 2011, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Romney who created Obamacare.——again, you’re FAR FAR right. People in mass wanted it. They got it. A governor is supposed to give the people what they want. Mass has 7% unemployment rate right now. They have the best educated kids in the nation (Texas has the worse) Mass is one of the richest state in the nation, from brains and education, not drilling holes in the ground, and mass residents report having over 85% high approval rating on the healthcare in thier state. You can go to an ER and be in and out in 2 hours in Mass. In NH you go into an ER, and it’s like the rest of the country, it’s an 8 hour ordeal. All the uninsured in their for thier kids ear infections, sinus infections. You just do NOT get that in Mass. Polls show a majority of people dont want to repeal the healthcare law., they want to try it on, maybe improve it, but nobody wants to go back to rejecting healthcare for cancer survivors or college kids having to get thier own healthcare again. Sorry. You’re out of touch with REAL moderates.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Romney is the only candidate that can beat Obama regardless of what these early polls say. — I agree. I am the perfect example of this. Voted for Scott Brown but not this time. I’m disgusted what a republican congress has done. Perry came to NH and although not published in national newspapers, there were tons of people protesting him, no way he could win this state. It was NOT friendly to him. Romney comes and everyone follow him around like puppies. ROmney is respected. Sorry ,but that is a trump card some wackjob Ron Paul or dumb bunny Perry wishes they had.
Posted by: UR Little Friend
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Yes, Romney stands the best chance of winning the nomination, however, if the election were held today, I think Mickey Mouse could win Obama given the economy.
Now the election is still a year and a half away. Obama still has time to turn things around and win the election. The only question is does he have the ability or the will to do it?
Posted by: spike | August 22, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
As long as more than 50% of voters are receiving more from the govt than they contribute, it doesn’t matter who runs against Obama. He’ll win anyway. It’s called buying votes and he’s doing it one voter at a time.
Posted by: ooof-da | August 22, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Funny, the news organizations paid to have the Florida votes recounted and found out Gore won the election. Now, this article says Bush beat Gore, when they know that to be wrong. One wonders when, if ever, this misinformation will be corrected.
Posted by: Zordox | August 22, 2011, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
What could Pres Barry have done differently the last three years?
* Made immigration a legislative focus instead of climate change & Obamacare.
* Lead with proposals from the White House instead of following Pelosi and Reid.
* Reform entitlements.
* Reform the tax code. Trade lower tax rates for higher cap gains taxes.
Too late, Pres Barry – You’re Fired!!
Posted by: bl | August 22, 2011, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
if the election were held today, I think Mickey Mouse could win Obama given the economy-=—but that’s not how it happens. You have a debate, and EVERYONE watched the presidential debate. Mass healthcare is not Obama’s policy, and nobody can battle it better than Romney. The wing nuts just have to deal that something needs tobe done about heatlhcare, and yes, they may have to actually open their cheap their little fingers and buy healthcare, because the freeloaders, like them, are killing us. Mandates are because the freeloaders are killing the system. Period. No way around that. Funny how the same people who complain not enough people pay taxese complain they need to cover their own medical bills. IF youcan’t afford healthcare, you have to give up the idea that the government can’t get involved. In mass they have pools of people and offer plans. It works, not good, but GREAT, especially for small businesses who now get great healthcare for a great cost. Mass has a 7% unemployment rate for jobs that are the higest paying in the nation. Rick Perry created China-lite and has more people on food stamps in his state than any other, and the majority of these people are working…..minimum wage jobs. A higher percentage of the population works in minimum wage jobs in texas than any other state. Texas is a such a failure of a state, in so many ways, all you need is one debate of Obama versus Perry and Obama would be up by 20 points.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
“Lord help us all of a Repub makes it to the White House in 2012! Most of the country will be sleeping in the streets!”
Posted by: Lorrie | Aug 22, 2011 5:56:03 PM
Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
LOL!
Posted by: Chuck | August 22, 2011, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Lord help us all of a Repub makes it to the White House in 2012! Most of the country will be sleeping in the streets!
Posted by: Lorrie | Aug 22, 2011 5:56:03 PM
Who has the highest EVER amount of people on food stamps? Obama.
Who has the highest EVER forclosure on his watch? Obama.
Who is the most anti-job President EVER? Obama. Just look up the NLRB lawsuits.
The Lord WILL be helping us if he puts a Republican in the WH in 2012.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | August 22, 2011, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Obama still has time to turn things around and win the election. The only question is does he have the ability or the will to do it?
—–for me, I dont care. If Republicans put up Romney, I’ll vote for him. If they dont, I’ll vote for Obaman and I know Obama will trounce anyone else in the republican field. For once, I am just fine with whomever wins because the only ones with a shot, Romney or Obama, I’m ok with.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
How did Ron Paul get so competitive????
Posted by: UR Little Friend | Aug 22, 2011 5:58:03 PM
Calm down UR. It is just proving the point that ANYONE will beat Obama.
I’m sure numbers will change when the Obama soldiers put out false accusations against the opposition, as they did when he ran for Senate….
Posted by: wheresmymoney | August 22, 2011, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Does Jake’s blog ever mention how unpopular the GOP and its tea party are, or when the president is ahead despite being the underdog given the economy?
Does Jake’s blog ever think that maybe instead of spinning b.s. about the president’s working vacation that maybe they might want to note that Libyans are CHEERING our president along with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, British Prime Minister David Cameron, and U.S. Ambassador the U.N. Susan Rice?
Every one of the lame GOP presidential candidates fails to acknowledge Obama’s role in either the fall of Gaddafi or the capture and killing of Osama bin Laden. Maybe they’re too busy making outlandish statements and wrestling their own positions into submission and back again… or maybe they’re clueless tunas on foreign relations (ding, ding, ding)
Republicans are extremely unpopular with good reason. I do not think America, most of which is not conservative, will vote in a Republican for president. It seems like a fun idea to some now, a way to register irritation at the economy, but there is a heck of a lot of buyer’s remorse after 2010.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Sounds like ur little friend needs anger management. In denial as well.
Posted by: Cryos | August 22, 2011, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
” the ACORN Crowd “—wingnut. Wingnut wingnut. No, anyone who complain about ACORN is not logical. You are the far far right. You’ve hated Obama since he walked in the door. You cling to ANYTHING negative or even, fiction that is made up that is negative. No, moderates dont do that. No, Romney and Perry are NOT equal. Perry would be creamed by obama. Iwould know. I am the moderates. the purple states. The swing voters. That’s not you! It’s me. And I’m telling you, keep your crazy in check, or be prepared to bang your head against the wall another 4 years. You go Romeny, or you lose. Period.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“I do not think America, most of which is not conservative, will vote in a Republican for president.”
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 22, 2011 6:38:03 PM
If so, why are you wasting your time posting here? Shouldn’t you be doing something much more productive, like working to help pay off your portion of the national debt? Hope and Change sure won’t pay it off.
Posted by: Chuck | August 22, 2011, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I suspect that between likely voters Ron Paul will fare even better. Ron Paul voters are, by far, the most passionate and loyal.
Posted by: Eoin | August 22, 2011, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Though you are ranting a bit I do agree with some of your points ur little friend.
I think Romney has the best track record and being more moderate does give him an advantage. My main beef is being fiscally conservative so if he stays that route he has my support.
Posted by: Cryos | August 22, 2011, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
“I do not think America, most of which is not conservative, will vote in a Republican for president.”
——ROmney won governor in Mass. When people want problems solved, the majority of them go for whomever they think can solve the problem. About 20% of our population will vote for anyone who is against gays, or is against abortion, but that is such a tiny slice of the population who votes. We have problems and the majority of voters will vote for who can do the job. Obama has found and killed OBL, bush coudnt do. Obama did stabilize the economy, but he wasn’t able to revive it fully yet. So while folks will trust Obama more with a crises, if things look stable, they may give someone else a shot…IF they think that person can solve problem. Crying about abortion is just going to turn people off. Nobody cares about gays or abortion. The moderates win elections and after this debt crises fiasco, I’m not voting for Scott brown! He was inpotent. He did nothing. Having yet one more republican following the Tea Party nuts did nothing for the country. So I bet you, he’s out. watch and see.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
These are the biggest nutcases, losers and idiots ever to run for president
Posted by: john wraith | August 22, 2011, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
My main beef is being fiscally conservative so if he stays that route he has my support—-that’s who moderates are. Sociall liberal, fiscal conservatives. but to cut everyone and then kill the GDP does nothing for the debt crises and will kill the economy. Romney is too smart to do that. Ron Paul and Perry woudl do exactly that. but I’m still not worried. No way stupid texan or fruit loop little man will ever win. No possible way. I’m really not bothered by this election. I’d rather Romney, but I’m fine with Obama. I do think, however, Romney will honestly do a better job. Romney knows how to create GOOD jobs.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
The economy isn’t his fault?! Read Reckless Endangerment. It’s a depression! :economist David Rosenberg
‘W’ had 5% unemployment!
He’s a nice guy? See Manchurian President or Boykin’s Marxism in America.
Posted by: Connor | August 22, 2011, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
“I do not think America, most of which is not conservative, will vote in a Republican for president.”
Kimberly lives in her own fantasy world. This statement is 100% false. According to Gallup, 42% of Americans identify as conservative, 35% as moderate, while 20% identify as liberal. I’ll do the math for you: Conservatives outnumber Liberals in this country by a factor of more than two to one. You Libs just can’t ever come to terms with the fact that your economic, social, and overall view and philosophies are flawed and are NOT the mainstream views. Even with the entire media establishment on your side, you still can’t even gain enough ground to comprise half of the country’s population.
The fact that Ron Paul is giving Obama, an incumbent, a run for his money a year out from the election is very, very bad news for Obama. Look at the previous incumbent poll figures during their terms: Bush was way ahead of Kerry, and the election was close. Carter was close to Reagan, and Reagan crushed him. In other words, any time a sitting President is this close in the polls, especially with an unelectable candidate such as Ron Paul, it is very bad news for the incumbent. Lastly, the only buyer’s remorse I am seeing originated from 2008. Hope is not a plan and Change is not a plan.
Posted by: Bobby | August 22, 2011, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Does Jake’s blog ever mention how unpopular the GOP and its tea party are,—-no. The Tea Party congress has a 17% approval rating. A common problem with the far right, is that when they see the slightest hope, they jump the shark. They start reaching for ridiculous thing that dont even make sense that are down right unbeneficial. They get drunk with power. THe debt ceiling crises is the perfect example. Tea party gets in and what do they do??? FIght tooth and nail to extend tax cuts to the most wealthy, thereby putting us another 300 billion in debt this year. They do not extend long term unemployment. Yup. lost more than a few votes of support there. They fought tooth and nail to give 2 billion in handouts to oil companies. and then they nearly shut down the government over abortion and then they threatened to default on paying our bills ,resulting in a down grade of our credit rating, over nothing. It wasn’t even the budgetary process time yet. It was just time to pay the bills. They are widly unpopular. During debate time ALL this disfunction and bad judgement comes back to bite you in the arse, nad luckily, Romney is not touched by any of it. He was too smart to get anywhere near the idiocy.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
but I’m fine with Obama. I do think, however, Romney will honestly do a better job. Romney knows how to create GOOD jobs.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | Aug 22, 2011 6:52:57 PM
Why don’t you try to set up a Democrat primary between Obama and Romney?
Posted by: wheresmymoney | August 22, 2011, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
How did Ron Paul get so competitive???? I was told he was unelectable.
Posted by: Marcelo | Aug 22, 2011 5:36:48 PM
He raised nearly $2 mil in 24 hours. It’s too bad the press won’t give him the full attention he deserves. I read a good post at The Economist’s Democracy in America blog called “Manufacturing Irrelevance.”
The blogger looks at Ron Paul in relation to Michele Bachmann and writes, “the MSM likes Michele Bachmann; it made Michele Bachmann. She’s a photogenic embodiment of a certain polarising brand of conservatism that makes good copy and great TV. By contrast, Ron Paul is a goofily avuncular non-comformist ideologue who speaks unutterable truths about American foreign policy and delivers incessant indignant harangues about the monetary system that approximately no one in the media understands. I think Mr Paul’s influence on the ideological cast of American conservatism has been underestimated and underreported, but to take even his influence, if not his candidacy, more seriously would require the talking haircuts and the newspaper typing corps to wrestle with a charged set of geopolitical and economic topics they would rather continue helping Americans not understand. So Ron Paul’s a proven loser we can neglect with a clear conscience, while it is a matter of great public interest whether or not Michele Bachmann actually attended a family reunion, because, you see, the winner of the Ames straw poll is a real up-and-comer who’s pulling down a fearsome 10% in national polls, right up there with non-candidates Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin. Right up there with Ron Paul.” Yeah.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Obama didn’t kill OBL—everyone gives him credit except the far right. YOu dont know the purple states, my friend. You are too far right. I am very fiscally conservative, and socially liberal. I am the typical moderate. I like Obama fair enough. That is the consensus of the moderate. They like him ok, but may be looking for someone else to do the job better if possible. People who are unable to even give the president credit where credit is due, is the wingnuts. Moderates are fine saying Obama did someting ok. Or, that Romeny or someone else is better than Obama, or that Obama did something wrong. you can’t say he’s done anything well, can you????? You’re too far gone. You heard it here. It’s Romeny or Obama. Promise.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Are you serious people….I bet anyone who bad mouths Ron Paul has spent no time learning about the man. If you listen to the major media networks only and care only about Republicans and Democrats you will never vote the right man in. Listen to the passion in Ron Paul and you will know he cares about our nation and wants to see the USA do well not his pocket book. Study the Fed too and understand why it was created and how it has failed miserably for 100 years and for some reason we let it remain. WAKE UP OUR NATION IS BEING DESTROYED BY THE STATUS QUO!
Posted by: LWB111 | August 22, 2011, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Why don’t you try to set up a Democrat primary between Obama and Romney?
—-ROmney is a good old fashion fiscal conservative and I like that. Ihate welfare.I hate handouts…TO ANYONE, including oil compaines and rich folks who DO NOT need them. I dont support all this coddling of people for making bad decisions. Romeny is perfect in that sense and he is not liked by the far left because Romney is NOT liberal. Not at all. The moderate democrats like him, and elected him in mass, because he IS smart and he CAN bring hte jobs and it all comes down to self interest. Ok, welfare gets cut, touchy feely programs got cut, but ya know what, my pay went up, unemployment went down and he attracted alot of new business to mass, so, even democrats loves him, except the die hard liberals. both ROmney and Obama are pretty centrist. So either is fine, but I’m not right center than left. So I prefer Romeny, but no way ROmney woud get a democratic nomination. He is way too conservatives fiscally.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I do not think America, most of which is not conservative, will vote in a Republican for president.”– posted by me
Kimberly lives in her own fantasy world. This statement is 100% false. According to Gallup, 42% of Americans identify as conservative… posted by “Bobby”
I’ll do the math for YOU, Bobby. 100% equals all Americans. 100% minus 42% equals 58% that are not conservative. So, as I said… most of America is NOT conservative.
Since I know many right wingers struggle with math and everything related to it.. science, economics… we can do it another way. you wrote, “According to Gallup, 42% of Americans identify as conservative, 35% as moderate, while 20% identify as liberal.” 35% plus 20% equals 55% which is greater than 42%.
You stand gobsmacked, baffled and yet corrected.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I saw a great quote that sums up Obama getting Osama. Guessing it originally came from a comedian but don’t know.
“Thanking Obama for killing Osama bin Laden is like thanking Ronald McDonald for your burger. Thank the guy who put it in the bag not the clown.”
Posted by: Cryos | August 22, 2011, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
When Chuck Norris gets scared, he goes to Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012!
Posted by: J_Smith | August 22, 2011, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Hear Ye! Hear Ye! RON PAUL is the only candidate who can beat Obama! Here’s why… First, he just makes sense. He’s the modern day version of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. Second, he has enthusiastic support from ALL sides. (liberals, conservatives and independants) HE WILL TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM THE LIBERAL BASE BY THE MILLIONS. (Pay attention) Democrates will NEVER vote for Romney, Perry or Bachman. The republican base will never vote for Romney or Obama. That leaves Perry who reminds everyone of George Bush and the struggling country is simply not ready for a conservative woman president (Bachman). (Are you still with me?) Anyone with a brain knows the country can’t afford four more years of Obama’s failed policies or partisan gridlock. Whoever can pull from both bases and the center will win. The only cadidate that can do all that is RON PAUL!!!!! All he needs to do is get past the RINO’s in the primaries. Do your reseach on Ron Paul. He is the man with the plan!!!!
Posted by: Dave | August 22, 2011, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
How much do you get paid by Obama’s campaign?
—yea, that makes sense. Support Obama’s biggest threat.
Wow. Ya know, you’re fullfilling another steriotype of what the far right is….not the brightest bulbs in the box, there, my friend.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Ron Paul doesn’t cut taxes. He kills them with his bare hands.
RON PAUL 2012!
Posted by: J_Smith | August 22, 2011, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
42% of Americans identify as conservative—which includes me. About 20% are fringe on either side. 20% far right, 20% far left, the youth are nearly all liberals and the modeates rules the day.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Lord help us all of a Repub makes it to the White House in 2012! Most of the country will be sleeping in the streets! – Your kidding right? The country is just clicking along under Obama’s leadership…
Posted by: Dave | August 22, 2011, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Thank the guy who put it in the bag not the clown.”
—-Bin Laden was at the same place for 5 years, three of which were under Bush. BUsh came out publicly and admitted “I dont care where bin Laden is”. Bush gave up. There was no effort to find BIn Laden anymore when Obama took office. Obama reconstituted the effort. If it failed, if Pakistan freaked on us for violating their air space and we wasted our one attempt to get Bin laden on some nobody and killed a bunch of innocent people, Obama would have taken the heat and been called every name in the book. He made the call and reconstituted the search. If it happened under bush I’d have given bush the credit. But it happened under Obama, so Obama gets the credit. Unless you’re on of the wingnuts. Then you give Obama credit for nothing unless things go wrong, then the earthquake in Japan is Obama’s fault too.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
RON PAUL 2012!
—-put him up. Go crazy. I’m fine with Obama for another term, though I have to admit, I will be a little bummed, because ROmeny could have done better, I know ROmney wont run again. It’s our one chance and it would be a waste to lose such a good chance for such a stupid idiotic pipe dream that was so predictable. So, have your fantasy if you must, but I’m telling you, ROmney or you lose. Period. Good day
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Finally! Someone recognizes that Ron Paul is running for president and is doing well with the little coverage from the mainstream media he is getting. Imagine if the media portrayed Ron Paul in a positive light? People might listen to him and realize he makes more sense than any of the other candidates combined.
Posted by: Dave | August 22, 2011, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
HE WILL TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM THE LIBERAL BASE BY THE MILLIONS—?????????? Excuse me???? He’s rabid anti choice. He would get rid of the department of education. He would NOT have helped ANY national crises, such as the oil spill, or hurricanes or ANY disaster. NOT the feds job, according to him. I mean, really, you are have completely off your rocker on this one. Paul hardly has support from republican, far right republicans, he is a laughing stock joke for liberals. His views are SO radical, he is literally a walking punch line.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Really. The GOP has handed us a bunch of clowns. They don’t know enough to even be considered real contenders.
Posted by: Kris | August 22, 2011, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
I think all polls such as this really say is that the country is evenly split like it has been for several elections.
Posted by: jock59801 | August 22, 2011, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
How pathetic is Obama? ABC says this is the weakest Republican field ever but the funny thing is Obama can’t beat them. HAHAHA Obama is PWNED!!!
Posted by: holla32 | August 22, 2011, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
His views are SO radical, he is literally a walking punch line.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | Aug 22, 2011 7:17:35 PM
The same can be said of Bachmann, Perry, Palin and Santorum– and Herman Cain is working on it. He’s attending Glenn Beck’s courage rally. How many gaffes will he make THAT day?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
HAHAHA, Unemployment at 9.1, horrendous debt added for NOTHING. Housing industry shot. I hope Odumba runs because then FOR SURE the republicans will win.
Posted by: Ann | August 22, 2011, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Well I don’t know about moderates, but I do know about democrats such as myself and my dad. We are both voting against Obama this next election.
Posted by: Brianna | August 22, 2011, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Sock puppets aboard. Lol.
Posted by: ceeLeelee | August 22, 2011, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
You better go with ROmney, or Obama will win. Remember you heard it here, and remember who said it. Because I will, and I’ll be sure to rub it in when it happens.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
against Obama —as opposed to ‘for’ someone. Not very smart. I dont believe you. When it comes time to color the dot, it matters who’s name is attached to the dot. I heard a very heated argument of some conservative folks at a cookout a few weekends back, for a BAchman supporter after the ‘the bible says I must submit to my husband’ and another conservative said he voted for obama nad was angry doing it, because he was voting against Palin. he did not like Obama, but was fearful ofsomeone as crazy as Palin getting in office. EVERY candidate, save Romney, has the Palin problem, and at that cookout it broke out again. “youre doing it again! Dont you understand how many votes you lose because so many who would vote for a conservative will NOT vote for crazy!” The only republican that republican liked……Romney. This is in New Hampshire, folks! I’m telling you! You best listen, or you will be sorry! good night.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
I can just add that I’m an independent who would rather vote for a dirty sock than Obama. The national lesson in socialism has gone far enough.
Posted by: StraightUp | August 22, 2011, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
An independent would know Obama is hardly acting like a socialist.
Posted by: Secondlook | August 22, 2011, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
most Republican candidates for president have no foreign relations experience and are more practiced at talking tough and cowboy movie worthy swagger than actually understanding foreign affairs. —I have to go, but I read something like this and it is just so wrong. You cannot compare a cow boy idiotic swagger to ROmney’s claSs and style and his ease with foreign relations and leaders of all types. Romney walked into the Winter Olympics at Utah that was way behind schedule, over spent and was looking like a huge international embarressment and got the whole HUGE international, sports, business, and construction probject along with interpreters and residences that conformed to cultural requirements and did it picture perfect, even taking a project in the red and bringing it home, done on time, in the black! Romeny is no country bumpkin. He is a polished intelligent man. he is NOT your typical republican yahoo “Jethro pass the possum soup” texan or wingnut religious taliban wanna-be freak. Romney is the real deal. He did a fabulous job in Mass and while he is conservatives, he was respectful of what the people who elected him wanted and was perfect stayingin bounds to what his job demanded and didn’t push any social agenda. Romney is head and shoulders above the field. Im’ sure the more you know about him, the more moderate democrats would like him. good night.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | August 22, 2011, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
It is impossible for me to believe that this pathetic man could be in a dead heat with Vladimir Putin let alone ANYONE in this country. If he is reelected we deserve the catastrophe that will follow.
Posted by: ray | August 22, 2011, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Foreign affairs experience? I can’t believe you wrote that. Candidate Obama HAD NO EXPERIENCE IN ANYTHING, except that of community organizer – whatever that is.
Posted by: Temagami | August 22, 2011, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
I think that Obama should ask Maxine Waters as campaign manager. Now THAT would be a class act. She has said that she WOULD HELP THE TEA PARTY GO TO HELL – Heck of a good start.
Posted by: Temagami | August 22, 2011, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
How about considering the Rasmussen Poll? Not exactly great for Obama
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
“Dumb enough to vote for Pery or Bachman.” Talk about fear and running scared!!
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Jake, maybe your pollster could do a quick one on those who may still declare.I may have seen a Sarah Palin match up a few weeks ago. It is a good bet with her future plans documented that she will run. Jeb Bush is another as is former New York Governor George Pataki.
Posted by: Jay Adler Comment | August 22, 2011, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Obama on his “Bus trip” kept complaining that congress would not ratify his trade agreements with Korea, Panama and Columbia. One little problem – OBAMA NEVER SENT THEM TO CONGRESS!!! White House Deputy Press Sec Josh Earnest when asked about it by reporter states “”We have not sent them over?” PRETTY EMBARRASSING, NO?
ANOTHER PROBLEM – They were not Obama’s treaties anyway. Treaties were negotiated during the latter part of the Bush adm and signed by Bush. They have been sitting on Omama’s desk ever since!! Talk about falsehoods!!
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Repubs are so stupid. A moderate candidate (Romney or Huntsman) would have a very good chance of beating Obama. However they are more concerned with ideological purity rather than practicallity and will nominate one of their wackos (Bachmann or Perry) and hence their candidate twill get shellacked.
Posted by: atilathehun101 | August 22, 2011, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
OBAMA DID NOTHING THE LAST 3-YEARS AND
NOW HE WILL LOSE IN 2012. I HATED BUSH SO MUCH I ACTUALY VOTED FOR HIM. I HAVE BEEN FOOLED TWICE NOW.
Posted by: JOLLY FOOL | August 22, 2011, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
“Repubs are so stupid.” Right now the country has indicted that it would prefer “Donald Duck” to Obama. Sad truth!!
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Romney is head and shoulders above the field. Im’ sure the more you know about him, the more moderate democrats would like him. good night.
Posted by: UR Little Friend | Aug 22, 2011 7:55:05 PM
Romney may be head and shoulders above the field– and he definitely has nicer hair than… well never mind, Bachmann, Huntsman and Perry all have nice hair, too– but he’s made a lot of gaffes and flip flops and blunders on foreign policy. Lindsay Graham calls him Jimmy Carter. Foreign policy is the reason he lost to McCain last time around (if they’d only known what was coming on the economy but they– or you– Republicans– chose to believe the fundamentals of the economy were strong.)
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
“anyone who complain about ACORN is not logical”…ummm, okay. Where have you been hiding? You do not sound like a moderate, UR little friend. You sound like an Obamabot trying to fool people. News for ya, it’s not working!
Posted by: val | August 22, 2011, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
“Romney may be head and shoulders above the field– and he definitely has nicer hair than… well never mind, Bachmann, Huntsman and Perry all have nice hair, too– but he’s made a lot of gaffes and flip flops and blunders on foreign policy.”
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 22, 2011 9:03:32 PM
Very snarky, immature comments. Obama thought there were 57 states and had ZERO foreign policy experience before becoming President. He still doesn’t have a foreign policy that anyone can articulate.
Posted by: Don | August 22, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Repubs are so stupid. A moderate candidate (Romney or Huntsman) would have a very good chance of beating Obama. However they are more concerned with ideological purity rather than practicallity and will nominate one of their wackos (Bachmann or Perry) and hence their candidate twill get shellacked.
Posted by: atilathehun101 | Aug 22, 2011 8:36:38 PM
’tis true. they aren’t the sharpest arrows in the quiver. They don’t understand that the majority of Americans are not conservative. (they misunderstand 40-ish % as a majority when close to 60% of Americans do not identify as conservative.)
the tea party is very unpopular. they’ll elect a tea party type to their detriment. Ultimately, Sharron Angle and the “I’m not a witch” chick didn’t win… and neither did Palin as VP.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
There you have it – ANY Republican can win. How many will remove millions of senseless murders from your conscience? How many will bring half a million troops home? Do you think half a million customers will improve sales in the US? Do you think half a million troops can help secure our borders? Hey, you know what a good election gift would be? Freedom. Freedom for three hundred million Americans enslaved by the Patriot Act. Freedom from the Department of Homeland Security, who can disappear you any time they feel like it. You know what else would be nice? A President who acted like a PRESIDENT and not a king. If only there were SOMEONE….
Vote Vertebrate – Ron Paul 2012!
Posted by: Louis Nardozi | August 22, 2011, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
“the tea party is very unpopular. they’ll elect a tea party type to their detriment.”
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 22, 2011 9:21:58 PM
Why do you care? Isn’t that what you want? Being so logical, you should be ENCOURAGING the Tea Party if that’s the case.
Posted by: Don | August 22, 2011, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Being so logical, you should be ENCOURAGING the Tea Party if that’s the case.
Posted by: Don | Aug 22, 2011 9:29:34 PM
Why, in your imagination? I know you all make a lot of assumptions but let’s hear this one.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
I vote, and it not be for either party. Obama lied met behind closed doors with health care mafia, gives our money away to other countries.
GOP robbed social security time and time again, as if trying to break it.
Praying for the right person to come along, if not I will vote for a third party simply to make a statement.
Posted by: Randall | August 22, 2011, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Sounds like Kimberly is trying to actually believe the stuff she writes Bottom line is that this country is bottoming out via Obama’s Keynesian Economics which have failed in Europe and are failing here. We need a president who at least has a clue about what works and what does NOT work. Obviously that person is NOT Obama. Bye, Bye, BO.
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Posted by: Don | Aug 22, 2011 9:34:47 PM
It made perfect sense. Obviously, you’ve made assumptions that lead you to believe I should be rooting for/encouraging the tea party in order to achieve what you think I want based on that assumption. So what is the assumption? Or are you so used to making unconfirmed assumptions and arguing from them that you have no idea?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
“We need a president who at least has a clue about what works and what does NOT work.”
Who would that be?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Very simply put:
No Plan
No Clue
NOBAMA!
WAY TO GO, GOP CANDIDATES! IN 2012, AMERICA WILL EVICT BARACK OBAMA FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!
Posted by: David From Texas | August 22, 2011, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Maxine Waters says that “THE TEA PARTY CAN GO TO HELL.” I don’t understand why she should say that. Tea party people just want more fiscal responsibility and have elected candidates who will promote that point of view! What the heck is WRONG with that. Don’t citizens have a right to elect people who will promote their point of view? The Democrat party does that. Why should the tea party “go to hell” for carrying out the wishes of their constituents?
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Posted by: Tom Barnow | Aug 22, 2011 9:36:07 PM
For decades, liberals wanted us to be more like Europe. Now that Europe has abandoned Keynesian Economics and is rapidly moving toward mandated balanced budgets, American liberals want us to move in the opposite direction, toward a nanny state society that buried Europe in unsustainable debt and threatens to collapse the economies of several EU countries.
“Liberalism is a mental disorder.” – Michael Savage
Posted by: Don | August 22, 2011, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
“Maxine Waters says that “THE TEA PARTY CAN GO TO HELL.” I don’t understand why she should say that.”
Posted by: Tom Barnow | Aug 22, 2011 9:49:07 PM
Because she’s a Marxist idiot who’s threatened by anyone who promotes something as common sense as fiscal responsibility?
Posted by: Don | August 22, 2011, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Gee, a week ago Bachmann was second behind Romney, and with Perry jumping in Gallup (listing her last on the poll)
is putting her fourth behind Paul. If you watch objectively, the media is throwing the kitchen sink at her.
You can bet your retirement that the checked-pants Republicans are thrilled that Perry (amnesty on-a-stick) is in the fray with Romney (deep roots in Mexico). One of these amnesty-sucking RINOs in the White House with a GOP-controlled Congress is suicidal.
Posted by: ZOO | August 22, 2011, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Kimberly – to be fair Obama has only experience as a community organizer. He has had no experience in working or running a business. Like it or not business is the life blood of this country. Right now we need a president who has had at least experience in that field. Herman Cain has run major corporations and would transfer that experience to the public sector. Mitt Romney also. Other candidates like Perry have had state governorship experience dealing with balancing budgets. The GOP is blessed with a large number of candidates who have both executive and financial experience.
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Posted by: Tom Barnow | Aug 22, 2011 9:36:07 PM
Well, sure I believe what I post. What am I supposed to believe? That the GOP has NOT moved so far to the right that they’re NOT in danger of falling into a Horowitz Singularity and emerging as weirdly religious Trotskyites, when all the evidence is to the contrary???? Puh-lease. I can back up my assertion that Republicans– at least on here– don’t get that the majority of Americans aren’t conservatives by pointing to Posted by: Bobby | Aug 22, 2011 6:56:11 PM and my correction of the peculiar math at 7:06:40 PM. Fact of the matter is some 55-60% of Americans, a majority, are not conservative.
And the tea party is very, very unpopular with approval ratings no better than 20% while recent polls show the GOP UNfavorability at a whopping 59%.
An op-ed written by David E. Campbell, Associate Professor of Political Science at Notre Dame, and Robert D. Putnam, Professor of Public Policy at Harvard, the co-authors of American Grace: How Religion Divides and Unites Us is getting a lot of attention because it exposes what a lot of people have noted—
Tea partiers aren’t grass roots; they’re the religious right, who have now applied their literalist narrow-minded thinking and faith in far right wing ideology. Sure, they’re joined by a handful of conspiracy theorists but, hey, Campbell and Putnam have put their research in and the tea partiers are not libertarians, and they were never some new grassroots group.
Their concern about the Constitution and economic uncertainty and the deficit is all feigned. Their unifying attributes are (1) a desire for more God in gov’t, (2) their status as hard-core Republicans who found themselves disappointed and in need of calling themselves something else given how bad the GOP brand was, (3) nativism and a higher rate of being anti-immigrant and anti-minority than the American mainstream and even the former Republican mainstream, (4) an imperial vision of America, the vision that took us into Iraq (and which is not remotely libertarian), (5) a heightened state of being anti-communist and assuming everyone who thinks to the left of them is communist (or Socialist, which for them is exactly the same) (6) tribalism and a strong belief that anyone who is not one of them is the enemy.
All of this has created a backlash against them as they are way out of step with the American mainstream and American values.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
TOM BARNOW posted “Kimberly – to be fair Obama has only experience as a community organizer. He has had no experience in working or running a business.”
Funny how you left out his many years in the Illinois Senate and the U.S.Senate.
BTW, experience isn’t worth a hill of beans if it isn’t successful. G.W.Bush was handed things like a S&L and a ball team and screwed up royally.
Posted by: Faurtz | August 22, 2011, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Tom, my question @ 9:46:14 PM was who is the candidate for president that you think knows what works and what does NOT work? If the primary were tomorrow, who would you vote for and why? Are you saying you like Cain, Romney and Perry, all equally? What do you make of their foreign relations/policy experience and positions?
At some point, you have to pick one or choose not to vote. Who’s it going to be?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Kimberly “The Tea Party way out of step with American values?” Are you kidding? I guess last Nov never happened? Do you get your stats from same source the Sec of DOE when he trashed Perry and the Texas school system. Stats were not even close.
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
DON posted “Very snarky, immature comments.”
Sadly, DON also posted “”Liberalism is a mental disorder.” – Michael Savage”
Having a different point of view/outlook on life is NOT a mental disorder. Most adults WELCOME such differences.
Posted by: Faurtz | August 22, 2011, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Faurtz – Experience in political office. You mean when Obama consistently voted “Present.”
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Funny how you left out his many years in the Illinois Senate and the U.S.Senate.
Posted by: Faurtz | Aug 22, 2011 10:16:59 PM
Funny as in odd, and yet purposeful and hence deceitful. No mention of the committees he served on either. But that’s not all…
Tom also left out Obama’s work in a law office which is a business, the year he spent as a financial researcher and writer in New York City, for a firm that catered to multinational corporations, his work as a teacher/law professor, his work as an author (which is self-employment).
He also can’t say which GOp presidential candidate knows what to do and what not to do, focusing solely on business and governor experience and ignoring the foreign policy angle to a presidency. I personally think he just wants to bash Obama without having to concede how lame– almost treasonously lame– the GOP presidential field is.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
“All of this has created a backlash against them as they are way out of step with the American mainstream and American values.”
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 22, 2011 10:13:23 PM
Again, if true, WHY DO YOU CARE? This is what you want!
Posted by: Don | August 22, 2011, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
TOM BARNOW posted “Faurtz – Experience in political office. You mean when Obama consistently voted “Present.”"
You just said that to the wrong person. The old “he voted present” bit won’t work on me because I’m from Illinois and I understand what voting present means.
In Illinois, as well as about 7 other states, there are three choices of voting on a bill : yea, nay, and present. Both nay and present count as nay votes. The difference between them is this : nay means “no, and that’s final”. Present means “no, but we’re really close. With a little more work I can change my vote to a yea”
Obama even voted present on a bill he presented because someone added something to the bill that Obama felt was unconstitutional.
I actually feel insulted by your post. Do you really think everyone is so naive that they would fall for that “present” bit?
Posted by: Faurtz | August 22, 2011, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Liberals tend vote with their “feelings,” instead of what actually has been proven to work. For instance, Keynesian economics. Failed or is failing in Europe, as Europe is turning away from it. What does Obama do? Just the opposite. Rams through programs as in Obamacare which on the surface seems “Nice” to do, but has NO chance of actually working.
Posted by: Temagami | August 22, 2011, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
“The Tea Party way out of step with American values?”
Yes. Only 20% of Americans view the tea party favorably. Americans are ticked off about the economy and unemployment; liberals are ticked off about a long list of things including war (Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan), the ext. of Bush tax cuts, compromises on various reforms like health care, Wall Street, etc. — and yet Obama is still more trusted than the GOP and he’s hanging in there with the field of GOP candidates. When polled on most tea party positions, Americans disagree with the tea party.
You say don’t forget 2010, but one election isn’t enough. I say don’t forget 2006, 2008 and this is a centrist country… increasingly polarized in rhetoric but when you really talk to people, not just rant at them, but talk to them (try it) this is still very much a centrist country. Obama is center left. Huntsman is center right… and the rest of the candidates thus far are as out of touch as the tea party.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Posted by: Don | Aug 22, 2011 10:28:22 PM
Chuck, let’s try this again though you seem to have trouble grasping the question. What are you assuming I want when you make these statements?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
TEMAGAMI posted “Liberals tend vote with their “feelings,” instead of what actually has been proven to work.”
Oh, you mean like giving tax breaks for the rich thinking that they would use the money to create jobs and some how the money will trickle down to the middle and lower class?
Posted by: Faurtz | August 22, 2011, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
FAURTZ – You missed my point. I used the term “Present” as a way of suggesting that Obama did not do a heck of a lot as a legislator and certainly had no experience in the private sector, nor executive experience (public or private) His whole life experience has been either in academia or in the public sector – which is common among politicians, EXCEPT, some like Perry DO have public executive experience which is a huge advantage.
Posted by: Tom Barnow | August 22, 2011, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Posted by: Tom Barnow | Aug 22, 2011 10:45:55 PM
I don’t really think he missed your point and he’s 100% correct, btw when he writes:
“In Illinois, as well as about 7 other states, there are three choices of voting on a bill : yea, nay, and present. Both nay and present count as nay votes. The difference between them is this : nay means “no, and that’s final”. Present means “no, but we’re really close. With a little more work I can change my vote to a yea”
Obama even voted present on a bill he presented because someone added something to the bill that Obama felt was unconstitutional.”
Obama was actually thanked by his constituents for voting present on various pieces of legislation.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Oh, you mean like giving tax breaks for the rich thinking that they would use the money to create jobs and some how the money will trickle down to the middle and lower class?
Posted by: Faurtz | Aug 22, 2011 10:43:29 PM
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Exactly like that… wait, what??? You mean maybe the GOP votes per a slavish adherence to an unworkable ideology and they don’t get it?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 22, 2011, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
The first thing a GOP president should do is to cut the corporate tax rate down to around 25 percent, (the US has the second highest corp tax rate in world, Japan first), eliminate the capital gains tax and get rid of at least some of the stranglehold regulations that are killing business. Then, get rid of Obamacare ASAP. If Obama did as I suggest – HE WOULD BE A SHOE-IN FOR REELECTION!! Why? Big jump start in economy with boom years to follow. But, Obama will not do it, because he is focused on “Fairness, Social Justice and Sharing the wealth.” All “Feel good” ideas, but do nothing to improve the economy.
Posted by: Manitu | August 22, 2011, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Atlas is Indeed Shrugging. “The larger the government grows – the smaller the individual becomes.”
Posted by: Temagami | August 22, 2011, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
It doesn’t matter who gets in. We set out on a course many years ago of big govt, dependent populace, no respect for life, and the unwillingness to discipline ourselves morally or financially. The spiral will continue no matter who is in the White House. Get used to the new normal, people. This is what you have asked for and voted for a long time ago. What’s that? You want to change your mind now? Sorry, too late.
Posted by: Justsayin | August 22, 2011, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Just – you may be right, but I like to think that we can take this country back. Isn’t it worth a try? Capitalism together with a good dose of Judeo/Christian ethics built this country and but it well. What is happening in Europe SHOULD wake us up – hope it is NOT too late. Hurry 2012
Posted by: Temagami | August 22, 2011, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Temagami. If your right, the occupant of the white house makes no difference. It’s all grass roots, always has been. I see nothing that gives me hope. The weakest intention to impose discipline is met with wailing and bellyaching. This isn’t our parent’s generation. Discipline in schools? Self discipline? Financial discipline at city hall or the state, let alone federal? Moral discipline? Courage, self restraint, putting our children before us, delayed gratification …these are traits that are quickly vanishing or are already in the ash heap of US history. There is no vision, and we are perishing.
Posted by: Justsayin | August 22, 2011, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Polls are stupid unless it is election day results
Posted by: TV | August 22, 2011, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
MANITU posted “The first thing a GOP president should do is to cut the corporate tax rate down to around 25 percent, (the US has the second highest corp tax rate in world, Japan first), eliminate the capital gains tax….”
More tax breaks for the rich? That doesn’t work, never has, never will.
BTW, I LOVE the old story about us having the 2nd highest corporate tax rate. Companies here spend a great deal of money on tax lawyers to find and use the many tax loopholes that the don’t pay nearly as much. I’m fine lowering them down to 20% IF you take away their loopholes.
Posted by: Faurtz | August 23, 2011, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Obama is toast. Perry, Bachmann, or possibly Romney will boot him out of the White House. What a wonderful day that will be!
Posted by: Amanda Donos | August 23, 2011, 12:53 am 12:53 am
B-b-but how can this be?
Obama’s glorious world leadership (in Egypt, with bin Laden and now Libya) is supposed to assure his re-election (never mind what Egypt actually BECAME after Mubarak, or what’s headed Libya’s way, either)!!!!
What in the world is he doing merely ‘even’ with Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann???
(all sarcasm intended)
Posted by: Lee | August 23, 2011, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Oh, I hope , golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly,golly wish that everything Obama wants to do to help America FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate America so much that I cheer for the complete destruction of our country because I care more about MY PARTY than my country……
United States, on behalf of the tea party and the rest of the Republican party…………
ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Faurtz | August 23, 2011, 1:59 am 1:59 am
“Oh, I hope, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly, golly wish that everything Obama wants to do to help America FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” If intentions were all that mattered then it wouldn’t matter who was in office or what they did, would it? But when ideas that were “intended” to help the US fail miserably to achieve their intended purpose and are rooted in the discredited philosphy that those with more can carry the load for everybody else, then that person is doomed to fail regardless of whether or not anyone is wishing for them to fail.
Posted by: Publius | August 23, 2011, 2:18 am 2:18 am
Tax breaks for the rich? Are you saying that all – or even most corporations and its owners are rich? You know nothing about business. Good bet that either you are somehow connected with academia or you are a government employe. Only one in those categories can have your political philosophy.
Posted by: Temagami | August 23, 2011, 6:09 am 6:09 am
Considering his policies, the economy that he did nothing to repair, and the disrespect he has shown women, seniors, and the left, he could stick a rose between his teeth and I still wouldn’t vote for him.
Posted by: whatever | August 23, 2011, 6:18 am 6:18 am
Vote Those JOB KILLING REPUBLICANS Out of Office:
BTW: President Obama Now Has THREE YEARS EXPERIENCE As president of the UNITED STATES.
And He Can’t Do Very Much For The Economy While the JOB KILLING TEA PARTY people Stands in the way Blocking Everything, Then they say the President is Not Doing Anything Fro the Country.
Posted by: vern | August 23, 2011, 8:07 am 8:07 am
The silent majority is not buying what the democrats are selling, and it shows with polls such as this.
America learned an important lesson. Don’t elect someone with no experience running a single thing to president based on hope and change.
Fortunately for the sake of the country, the silent majority are going to vote against Obama and his job and economy killing leadership. Or should I say the lack of leadership.
Americans are not buying into the hate that the desperate democrats are trying to sell with their hate-filled rants toward conservatives.
The continuation of 2010 rolls on.
Posted by: Kate | August 23, 2011, 8:28 am 8:28 am
VERN | Aug 23, 2011 8:08:10 AM:
“Vote Those JOB KILLING REPUBLICANS Out of Office”
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I’d have to agree with VERN.
We’re at where we’re at today because our nation is no longer a manufacturing nation. We import so much more than we export.
During 12 years of a Republican congress, January 1995-to-January 2007, we lost 3.1 million ‘MADE IN AMERICA’ manufacturing jobs… and the majority of those jobs were lost during the 6 years that we had a Republican President, a Republican Senate and a Republican House–>January 2001-to-January 2007.
Here’s the Data from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics…
‘MADE IN AMERICA’ Manufacturing Jobs, January 1995-to-January 2007:
START, Jan ’95 = 17,261,000
END, Jan ’07 = 14,009,000
NET LOSS of ‘MADE IN AMERICA’ Manufacturing Jobs under 12 years of a Republican Congress = 3.1 million.
Now, look at when most of those jobs were lost—>i.e., between 2001 and 2007, when we had a Republican President, Republican Senate and a Republican House:
Jan ’95 = 17,261,000
Jan ’01 (Bush Inaugural month) = 17,114,000
Jan ’07 = 14,009,000
Republicans KILLED America when, during their 6 years controlling the White House, Senate, and House our manufacturing base went away. Manufacturing jobs are the nucleus for all service-industry type jobs, and once the manufacturing jobs went away, so to followed the service-industry jobs.
Posted by: GWBush | August 23, 2011, 8:35 am 8:35 am
The left is demonizing the group (not the Republicians) that wants to help the country, not tear it down like our liberal friends. You know when liberals are running scared is when they start the name calling. The name calling has started in a big way. lol
Posted by: BurningFeather | August 23, 2011, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Vern,GWBush-funny how you have to make excuses while ignoring the fact that the Obama brand has gone sour.Things are worse now than the day he took office, except for the stock market and that is still up in the air.
Posted by: Nephron | August 23, 2011, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I agree. The democrats have become so nasty on these blogs and comments sections on the internet. I’ve NEVER seen hate as what they are spewing out.
Didn’t they take the advice of Obama when he said to tone down the rhetoric. Obviously that was code for turn it up to the max.
Posted by: Angie | August 23, 2011, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Worthless poll. So many things are going to happen over the course of the next year that such a poll today may shed some light on potential, but little more.
Posted by: The_Mick | August 23, 2011, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Obama flew Air Force One nearly four hours roundtrip to Columbus, Ohio for a 10-minute speech about how well the stimulus was working.
Posted by: LongT | August 23, 2011, 9:08 am 9:08 am
If you believe that poll I have some ocean front property in AZ I would like to sell you. Just more campaigning by the liberal press.
Posted by: Freedom | August 23, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am
NEPHRON | Aug 23, 2011 8:52:26 AM:
“Things are worse now than the day he took office…”
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LOL!…Oh give me a break. You clearly have no clue how we got to this point in our nation. Just to educate you, the loss of jobs in the nation has a ripple/domino effect over months and years. And during the last 2 years of G.W. Bush (2007 and 2008), we were witnessing that domino effect of job losses in the nation:
March 2008 = 40,000 jobs lost
June 2008 = 200,000 jobs lost
July 2008 = 246,000 jobs lost
October 2008 = 278,000 jobs lost
November 2008 = 710,000 jobs lost
December 2008 = 744,000 jobs lost
January 2009 = 1,123,000 jobs lost
President Obama stopped that domino effect of job losses, and is slowly turning the economy around:
2008 we had net job losses of 2.9 million
2010 we had net job GAINS of 1.2 million
2011 we had net job GAINS (so far) of 90,000.
You right-whiners are good at seeing “THE TREE”, but have a hard time seeing the FOREST…. LOL!
Posted by: GWBush | August 23, 2011, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Small point: no, GWB didn’t beat Al Gore in 2000; Gore won the popular vote. The problem was the Electoral College, which Bush won, courtesy of Sandra Day O’Connor. Pls. get your facts right.
Posted by: Jeri | August 23, 2011, 9:28 am 9:28 am
I hope Obama is gone in 2012 I for one have had enough of his hope and change.
Posted by: daniel | August 23, 2011, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Jeri, I hate to break this to you,but the Presidential election is decided by the electoral college,not the popular vote.If you don’t like that,change the Constitution.GWBush,the process that started the decline in lost jobs was TARP-essentially the only measure taken by the Federal Government that has had any real positive effect on the recession. Does 9.1% mean anything to you?
Posted by: Nephron | August 23, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Rasmussen daily tracking poll, approval index (strongly approve minus strongly disapprove)
8/19: -20
8/20: -21
8/21: -22
8/22: -24
8/23: -26
This is an ALL TIME LOW for Obama on this poll.
Posted by: Larry | August 23, 2011, 9:55 am 9:55 am
What Obama is going to do is make a bunch of proposals including more RECKLESS SPENDING and TAX INCREASES that he knows cannot pass the House. Then he will use that outcome to campaign indicating the Republicans are not working to fix the economy. This is DIRTY POLITICS of the highest order. Obama is putting his reelection AMBITION ahead of what is good for the country. Getting elected is more important than the SUFFERING of the American people to Obama. This COMPLETE DISREGARD for the welfare of the American people shows how urgent it is to vote Obama out of office.
Obama has made it clear he plans to spend $1 BILLION to try to get reelected. Spending $1 BILLION while the American people are suffering shows how out of touch Obama is. Having the taxpayers pay for what was just a campaign trip shows his disdain for the suffering of the American people.
The fact is the American economic problems will never be solved. All of the people living off the governments dime (welfare, food stamps, government employees, etc.) will continue to vote for the SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS. The SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS will continue to vote for the maintenance and extension of these programs so they can keep getting elected. It is a downward spiral with no viable solution unless all of us not living off the government’s dime vote 100% to stop the spending.
What needs to be done is to LOWER the debt ceiling.
Obama engaged in a reckless stimulus spending plan which only did more harm than good. That money was used to offset financial mismanagement at the state level. The projects that were funded by that money only gave a temporary increase in business to certain businesses but BUSINESS DID NOT CREATE PERMANENT JOBS TO MEET THAT DEMAND. Why? Because the stimulus was a temporary increase in spending and did not represent a long term increase in business. Businesses met that one time increase without hiring many people. The reckless stimulus spending did not create an investment opportunity for business. The only way we will see real, long term growth in jobs is if we eliminate the oppressive regulation of business (not Wall Street), change the tax structure so it is comparable to other countries, allow businesses the flexibility to make labor more efficient and STOP THE SPENDING.
Printing money did not work because interest rates were already as low as they could go. More dollars chasing the same amount of good and service means price increases not more jobs.
Our bloated and inefficient government is what is thwarting job and economic growth and the reckless stimulus spending and the reckless printing of money have not and will not do anything to fix it.
Obama is so h*ll bent of “taxing the rich” (whatever that means) because it is a campaign strategy not because it is good for the country. Obama is obsessed with getting reelected so he can ram more of his “hope and change” socialistic programs into law. Obama believes if he can force the Republicans to help pass a “taxing the rich” plan, the “rich” will not donate as much money. The Democrats with Obama in charge will continue to spend and spend. More and more social programs will mean more and more people with little incentive to work. His “taxing the rich” attitude will send more and more jobs out of the country.
Mr. Obama: stop campaigning, stop SPENDING and do what is good for the country.
We must continue to VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Posted by: AngryMobVoter | August 23, 2011, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Do some research: the media predicted Carter would beat Reagan. What to start telling the truth-the people know what it is!
Posted by: Diane Benjamin | August 23, 2011, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Then he will use that outcome to campaign indicating the Republicans are not working to fix the economy. This is DIRTY POLITICS of the highest order. Obama is putting his reelection AMBITION ahead of what is good for the country
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“Dirty Politics”? Oh you poor things….yes, let’s have the country decide what is good for the country. Not a bunch of rookie right-wing ideologues calling themselves the Tea Party. Sticking uncompromisingly with their unmasked agenda to protect the Bush tax cuts for the highest earners at all costs[and there will be costs] is not working to fix the economy, and more and more Americans are going to come to realize it plainly. Obama can and should run against them on it.
Posted by: Skip | August 23, 2011, 11:01 am 11:01 am
And Obama trails Mickey Mouse by 20 pts with a 40/60 showing.
Posted by: billy bob | August 23, 2011, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Our bloated and inefficient government is what is thwarting job and economic growth
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This is just more of the same right-wing baloney that the conservative fringe has been passing off as real economic analysis. Lack of sales, paying customers, and consumer confidence and buying power is what is thwarting economic growth. Cutting government services will only put more financial burdens on consumers further inhibiting economic recovery.
Posted by: Skip | August 23, 2011, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“Obama is putting his reelection AMBITION ahead of what is good for the country.”
I guess it depends upon what you consider ‘good for the country’. Republican Bloomberg actually wanted to prevent people on food stamps from using the subsidies to buy soft drinks. Is it good for the country that Conservatives want to tell people what to do just because they’re living off of public assistance? I don’t think so, and I think it’s good that the government told him food stamp recipeints can eat and drink whatever they want.
Posted by: Harry | August 23, 2011, 11:22 am 11:22 am
NEPHRON | Aug 23, 2011 9:47:56 AM:
“Does 9.1% mean anything to you?”
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LOL!…31 months into Republican hero, Ronald Reagan’s, presidency, unemployment was even higher, 9.4% (July 1983).
Dealing with similar circumstances, Obama’s at 9.1%, 31 months into his presidency (July 2011).
LOL!…Obama’s handling of this situation is far better than even the Republican hero, Ronald Reagan’s. Of course, would you expect any right-whiner’s to remember Reagan’s dismal job creation record 31 months into his presidency? …. LOL!… No. They truly expect that a Democrat “has to do and be faster than a Republican” to fix the current situation.
Posted by: GWBush | August 23, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Is it good for the country to want to tell people what to do just because they are living off of public assistance?HELL YES! IT IS OUR MONEY. If you don’t like the rules,GET A JOB!
Posted by: Nephron | August 23, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am
And Reagan came to office with WHAT INFLATION RATE?
Posted by: Nephron | August 23, 2011, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Carter gave us Reagan and it now looks as though Obama will give us another true, small government, personal liberty, deregulating conservative. My personal dream ticket is Perry-Cain, (Perry-Bachman a close second) but I will back with all my energy and money any of the current contenders over Obama.
Posted by: goodtallviking | August 23, 2011, 11:38 am 11:38 am
NEW BUMPER STICKER TRILOGY:
More God More Family Less Gum’mint
Posted by: goodtallviking | August 23, 2011, 11:39 am 11:39 am
“Right-wing baloney….Right-wing nuts…on and on…” Try to keep it on a adult level, this is not a high school election for class President….This coming election isn’t about personalities…It’s not personal, it’s business…If Obama had come through for the American economy, I would have voted to re-elect…but he is headed in the opposite direction breaking records…Spending…Housing…S&P…consumer confidence. I just can’t afford to keep him on the Country’s payroll another four years….
Posted by: Parallex View | August 23, 2011, 11:44 am 11:44 am
“‘Is it good for the country to want to tell people what to do just because they are living off of public assistance?’ HELL YES! IT IS OUR MONEY. If you don’t like the rules,GET A JOB!”
YOUR money is whatever the government lets you keep after taxes. What the government spends is no more YOUR money than what Walmart has in the register after you bought something there.
Posted by: Harry | August 23, 2011, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Unless we’ve awoken in the Twilight Zone, Regan and Bush mean nothing to me as far as the economy goes…Try to keep it in the present tense and look toward the future….
Posted by: Parallex View | August 23, 2011, 11:53 am 11:53 am
At Walmart you get to take something home in exchange for your dollars…and…if the product does not perform as advertised, you get to bring it back….I am bringing mine, President, back for a refund in 2012….VOTE….
Posted by: Parallex View | August 23, 2011, 11:58 am 11:58 am
goodtallviking | Aug 23, 2011 11:38:13 AM:
“Carter gave us Reagan…”
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LOL!…. and Reagan taught every president after him, how you can borrow to pay for BIG GOVERNMENT, and fool your followers that you’re a “small government, less taxes, fiscal-conservative” type-of-guy… LOL!
National Debt Increases, by President, Before Reagan:
Nixon/Ford (8 years) = $292 Billion
Carter (4 years) = $280 Billion
Then, Reagan comes along…LOL… that “smaller government”/”fiscal conservative” type-of-guy:
Reagan (8 years) = $1.7 TRILLION
LOL!… In fact, Reagan accumulated more debt that all the Presidents before him, COMBINED. Debt before Reagan took office was $935 billion, and Reagan raised it by $1.7 Trillion to $2.6 Trillion.
Republican followers are constantly fooled by these Republicans, that their candidates are “fiscal conservatives”…LOL… when the facts show that none of them have been (Reagan, Bush # 1, and Bush # 2).
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 23, 2011, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
The left is more unhinged than ever in the Era of Hope and Change.
It’s a good day.
Posted by: Susan | August 23, 2011, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
History has plainly shown that spending and debt are only considered to be problems by Republicans when a Democrat is in the White House.
Posted by: Skip | August 23, 2011, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Throughout history, Socialists have never taken responsibility for their own failures. They’re like petulant children. Even when their own policies blow up in their faces, it’s always someone else’s fault.
Posted by: Susan | August 23, 2011, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
What in the world is he doing merely ‘even’ with Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann???
(all sarcasm intended)
Posted by: Lee | Aug 23, 2011 1:06:52 AM
That shows you– the intended sarcasm– that despite the economy and war and Obama’s status as an underdog, the Republicans are performing weakly due to a field of GOP candidates that is not only absurd but also extremely weak. there are numerous reasons the GOP and its tea party are extremely, extremely unpopular. They are simply out of step with America and American values. On top of that they focus on slavish adherence to ideology over practical solutions and common sense.
This is a centrist country. The GOP has no room for centrists.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 23, 2011, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 23, 2011 12:47:42 PM
Gallup (8/1/11):
Americans’ political ideology at the midyear point of 2011 looks similar to 2009 and 2010, with 41% self-identifying as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 21% as liberal.
If this pattern continues, 2011 will be the third straight year that conservatives significantly outnumber moderates — the next largest ideological bloc. Liberalism has been holding steady for the past six years, averaging either 21% or 22%, although notably higher than the 17% average seen in Gallup polling during the early to middle ’90s.
Longer term, the Gallup ideology trend, dating from 1992, documents increased political polarization in the country. The percentage of moderates has fallen to the mid-30s from the low 40s, while the combined percentage either liberal or conservative is now 62%, up from 53%.
Posted by: Don | August 23, 2011, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Just wait until the Republican candidate has to explain why we need to reduce Medicare and Social Security but not tax the rich. No Republican candidate wants to raise revenues. Have fun getting the seniors to vote for that.
Posted by: Dawn | August 23, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Posted by: Don | Aug 23, 2011 1:00:03 PM
Most Americans are not conservative. Most Americans are not moderate either, and of course most Americans are not “liberals” though I would contend libertarians are liberal and Gallup doesn’t poll the right questions. Depends on where you stand and how you grew up and how you define each term. You can be very socially liberal (support gay marriage; support legalization of marijuana, oppose war) and also very fiscally and constitutionally conservative: where do you end up? How do you self-identify? If you support freedom of the press even when the content is sexy, if you listen to rap, if you support women’s freedom to choose what to do with their bodies, if you aren’t a religious authoritarian and don’t want creationism taught as science, if you would never ban books, well then in my hometown you were a freaking ultraliberal. A freaking going to hell ultra liberal. Didn’t matter if you voted against tax increases of any kind and carried a gun.
Kinda crazy, yeah?
Conservatives outnumber moderates by less than ten percent, but the majority of Americans are NOT conservative and when polled on policy positions and ideological questions, Americans don’t agree with tea party conservatives or the religious right on most things. The vast majority of Americans hold moderate views.
This view is backed by polls.
Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups
Ironically, the conservative movement is now more unpopular than two often-marginalized groups it sometimes rails against — Muslims and atheists — and is the least popular of the 23 groups the poll asked about. The only group that approaches the tea party’s unpopularity is the Religious Right.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 23, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Just wait until the Republican candidate has to explain why we need to reduce Medicare and Social Security but not tax the rich. No Republican candidate wants to raise revenues. Have fun getting the seniors to vote for that.
Posted by: Dawn | Aug 23, 2011 1:26:50 PM
Perry has been wrestling around with his own position on social security already, popping popovers to avoid manning up.
Rick Perry’s political manifesto Fed Up says that Social Security should be privatized and advocates for a much more radical overhaul of the tax code than most conservatives support. Hope his campaign has bags of popovers for him to stuff in his mouth while campaigning at debating. lol.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 23, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I’ve heard this “the tea party is nothing” talk before.
And look what happened in 2010! Don’t tell me they are not well perceived with the voters when just the last election proved otherwise.
Posted by: Kate | August 23, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 23, 2011 1:42:37 PM
Take it up with Gallup. What a loony post. lol
Posted by: Don | August 23, 2011, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Samuel J. Palmisano, the Chairman of the Board and CEO for IBM, said in a recent Wall Street Journal interview
that he offered to provide the Obama Administration with a program that
would curb healthcare claims fraud and abuse by almost one trillion dollars but the Obama White House turned the offer down.
Mr. Palmisano is quoted as saying during a taping of The Wall Street
Posted by: deanbob | August 23, 2011, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Posted by: Kate | Aug 23, 2011 1:49:11 PM
The left sure spends an inordinate amount of time and energy disparaging a movement they claim is irrelevant, don’t they?
Through their actions, the left always tells you who they fear.
Posted by: Don | August 23, 2011, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Kate, Don, etc.
I never said the tea party was “nothing.” I said it was radical, unpopular and out of step with America and American values.
The majority of Americans are NOT conservative and when polled on policy positions and ideological questions, Americans don’t agree with tea party conservatives or the religious right on most things. The vast majority of Americans hold moderate views.
This is backed by polls. To wit–
Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups
Ironically, the conservative movement is now more unpopular than two often-marginalized groups it sometimes rails against — Muslims and atheists — and is the least popular of the 23 groups the poll asked about. The only group that approaches the tea party’s unpopularity is the Religious Right.
It’s AMAZING that despite the economy and war and Obama’s status as an underdog, AND right wingers’ claims that given ’10′ the right DOES represent the majority of Americans, the Republicans are performing so very weakly in polls and their unfavorability is approaching 60%– fact is they are unable to beat in polls a president the right loves to hate. But then you look at their candidates— it’s Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell all over again. The field of GOP candidates is absurd.
The GOP and its tea party are simply out of step with America and American values. On top of that they focus on slavish adherence to ideology over practical solutions and common sense.
This is a centrist country. The GOP has no room for centrists. Look at how they view Huntsman. They assume because he’s smart, he must be a closet democrat. lol.
Posted by: Kimberly | August 23, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 23, 2011 3:01:31 PM
You’re not convincing anyone. lol
Posted by: Don | August 23, 2011, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
George W Bush got fewer votes, nationally and in Florida, than did Al Gore. Bush did get more votes at the Supreme Court though.
You state the opposite as a fact, when in fact you know that not to be true. Can you say propagandist?
Posted by: chuckdps | August 23, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Posted by: Don | Aug 23, 2011 3:41:35 PM
What are your assumptions about my aim and your role?
I don’t have to convince anyone… it’s reality. I realize some folks don’t visit reality that often. For example, many far right “conservatives” are extremely confused and blinded by fear and hate and other strong emotions that block all reason from penetrating.
A study called Cultures of the Tea Party was presented to the American Sociological Association today. It breaks down the cultural attitudes of Tea Party loyalists. Through an analysis of polling data and interviews with tea partiers, it found that the four primary characteristics most associated with Americans sympathetic to the Tea Party are “Authoritarianism, ontological insecurity (fear of change), libertarianism and nativism (negative attitudes toward immigration and immigrants)– never mind that authoritarianism and libertarianism are in direct conflict. (sheesh!)
The study also found that there are many inconsistencies in their views of the Constitution. (surprise!– not)
Posted by: Kimberly | August 23, 2011, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Posted by: Kimberly | Aug 23, 2011 4:14:03 PM
LOL!
Posted by: Don | August 23, 2011, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Actually the latest Gallup shows Romney slightly ahead. Rasmussen poll show both Romney and Perry ahead.
Posted by: Temagami | August 24, 2011, 7:20 am 7:20 am
A stick and a rock could run against Obama…..and win.
This poll comes as no surprise. I expect him to have low numbers.
Posted by: krissy | August 24, 2011, 7:52 am 7:52 am
If the Presidential election hold today. “headwinds” beats Obama by a wide margin.
Posted by: acdc2012 | August 24, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Funny, everytime the Tea Party points out that a bill isn’t going to create jobs, but kill them instead and offer ideas that are opposed to the job killing ideas, they Tea Partiers are said to be standing in the way. Then the bill gets passed and kills more jobs as was expected. Then the Tea Party is blamed for what they didn’t want to happen to begin with. Those arguments have no merit at all.
Posted by: TexBork | August 24, 2011, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Kimberly, you make a lot of sense. Watch your back, TTP does not like people who make a lot of sense.
Posted by: BikernAz12 | August 24, 2011, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
At this time, the GOP do not have one candidate that is capable of defeating President Obama, not one! The GOP do have a bunch of far right extremists that scare middle America!
Posted by: bobbob7779311 | August 24, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
BOBBOB – Must be in denial. Both Gallup and Rasmussan BOTH showing Romney ahead of Obama. Rasmussan shows both Obama ans Perry ahead of Obama. Sorry bout that.
Posted by: Temagami | August 24, 2011, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Denial has nothing to do with the facts, on the contrary! Polls ask questions that have a specific motive in play! Poll questions are framed in such a way, so that a desired outcome will be reached! The fact that middle America still like this President and understands that the republicans have nothing to offer America but the same old failed polices that protect the rich and support the outsourcing of jobs, will prevail at the end of the day! The key word is “ hypothetical!” It is a fact that conservatives have done nothing or proposed any job bills in an effort to help the average joe on the streets, nothing! At this time, the GOP do not have one candidate that is capable of defeating President Obama, not one! The GOP do have a bunch of far right extremists that scare middle America!
Posted by: bobbob7779311 | August 24, 2011, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Friday breaking news: Mr. Obama will give a speech today and the subject is a non-political one, the hurricane Irene.
From the Oldweek magazine, the speech will be focused on the hurricane and the safety of civilians only. Mr. Obama will not use Irene as one of his strategy for his failed economic policy.
This is a real CHANGE, no more blaming on headwinds.
Posted by: acdc2012 | August 26, 2011, 10:59 am 10:59 am