Obama Requests Joint Session Of Congress on Same Night as GOP Debate

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President Obama has asked to address a joint session of Congress on September 7th at 8 p.m. (ET) to outline his much-anticipated jobs plan, the exact same time that Republican Presidential candidates are scheduled to participate in a televised debate. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said today that the timing was purely “coincidental.”
“The president committed to speaking next week after the Labor Day holiday and immediately upon Congress’s return, and there are a lot of factors that go into scheduling a speech before Congress, a joint session speech,” Carney explained at today’s White House press briefing. “There is no perfect time.”
“Obviously, one debate of many that’s on one channel of many was not enough reason not to have the speech at the time that we decided to have it,” he added.
What’s the solution? “There are many channels, there are many opportunities for people to watch the president, and obviously an opportunity for people to watch the debate, and I believe that, you know, the network involved here can decide how it wants to deal,” Carney said.
That network would be NBC, which now has to decide whether to air the debate, which is being held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., or the president’s remarks. The debate, co-hosted by Politico, is slated to air live on MSNBC.
Asked if the White House was concerned that their timing would upset Nancy Reagan, Carney said only that “the sponsors of the debate… control the timing of it. They can make a decision based on how they want to handle this.”
As for the president’s choice of venue, Carney said that it is “appropriate” for Obama to address Congress because lawmakers will need to work together to take the steps necessary to create jobs.
“It is my intention to lay out a series of bipartisan proposals that the Congress can take immediately to continue to rebuild the American economy by strengthening small businesses, helping Americans get back to work, and putting more money in the paychecks of the Middle Class and working Americans, while still reducing our deficit and getting our fiscal house in order. It is our responsibility to find bipartisan solutions to help grow our economy, and if we are willing to put country before party, I am confident we can do just that,” the president said in a letter of request to Speaker of the House John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
“Our Nation faces unprecedented economic challenges, and millions of hardworking Americans continue to look for jobs. As I have traveled across our country this summer and spoken with our fellow Americans, I have heard a consistent message: Washington needs to put aside politics and start making decisions based on what is best for our country and not what is best for each of our parties in order to grow the economy and create jobs. We must answer this call,” the president wrote.
According to Carney, Boehner and Reid have not yet accepted the president’s request to address a joint session.

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Ridiculously pathetic game-playing. Obama is just a caricature now.
“Washington needs to put aside politics and start making decisions based on what is best for our country and not what is best for each of our parties”……….
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“The president’s request to speak pits his address against the Republican Presidential Debate currently scheduled for next Wednesday at the same time.”
Posted by: Dave in Colorado | August 31, 2011, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
This is more of the first stimulus redone. Anything for alternative energy is a
waste of money otherwise the private sector would be all over it . in Seattle
and Massachusetts you can Google those stories on their failure. Unemployment should be extended for a least a year as it will take that much longer for things to get better or at least the alternative Dec 21 2012 you choose?
Posted by: deadwrestler | August 31, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Obama is all hat and no cattle, so to speak. He wants to be seen as dictating to Congress what they need to be doing so he can take the focus off of his poor leadership to this point. It is pure political gamesmanship and the Republicans should say no to his request.
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Was our Jake Tapper laughing along with the other reporters when Jay Carney brought up such other channels as The Wildlife Channel?
Were they laughing with him or laughing at him?
Posted by: Oliver Shagnasty | August 31, 2011, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Punk 101
Posted by: foggy | August 31, 2011, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
How rude and crude…all politics for the President. He has no class.
Posted by: Freedom | August 31, 2011, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Following Obama’s speach here, solar company Solyndra is closing down and filing for bankruptcy – laying off 1100 workers.
Posted by: deanbob | August 31, 2011, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Why is this story buried on the ABC webpage?
Posted by: Linda | August 31, 2011, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
O’Blamer in chief is a disgrace. He has no class. He calls for bipartisan support, yet stabs Republicans in the back every chance he gets.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | August 31, 2011, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Obviously this narcissist only cares about optics and not jobs. He can make an address on Tue after labor day from the oval office. Instead, he wants a state of the union ambiance and at the same time wants to do it when the Reps are having their debate. He wants Boener to say “No”; then he’ll propose that he gets hundreds of billions if not trillions (of more debt) so he can buy votes before the election. They will say “No”. Then he can blame them for his failed policies. This guy is so predictable.
Posted by: chino | August 31, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Go get ‘em Mr. Pres. It’s time the Republicans quit posturing for election purposes. Have they stopped since Obama was elected?
Posted by: Peter | August 31, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
This guy is arrogant and centered….what else can be said?
Posted by: newcountryman | August 31, 2011, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
ABC News: “Obama Requests Joint Session Of Congress on Same Night as GOP Debate”
Someone’s running scared . . . must be afraid of the common sense, free market solutions inherent in the GOP’s conservative message. You can run, but you can’t hide from Election Day 2012!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
All Obama is interesting doing is campaigning to the detriment of the American people. Scheduling this at the same time as the debate proves it. And we thought Nixon was bad…
What Obama is going to do is make a bunch of proposals including more RECKLESS SPENDING and TAX INCREASES that he knows cannot pass the House. Then he will use that outcome to campaign indicating the Republicans are not working to fix the economy. This is DIRTY POLITICS of the highest order. Obama is putting his reelection AMBITION ahead of what is good for the country. Getting elected is more important than the SUFFERING of the American people to Obama. This COMPLETE DISREGARD for the welfare of the American people shows how urgent it is to vote Obama out of office.
Obama has made it clear he plans to spend $1 BILLION to try to get reelected. Spending $1 BILLION while the American people are suffering shows how out of touch Obama is. Having the taxpayers pay for what was just a campaign trip shows his disdain for the suffering of the American people.
The fact is the American economic problems will never be solved. All of the people living off the governments dime (welfare, food stamps, government employees, etc.) will continue to vote for the SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS. The SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS will continue to vote for the maintenance and extension of these programs so they can keep getting elected. It is a downward spiral with no viable solution unless all of us not living off the government’s dime vote 100% to replace the SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS.
Obama engaged in a reckless stimulus spending plan which only did more harm than good. That money was used to offset financial mismanagement at the state level. The projects that were funded by that money only gave a temporary increase in business to certain businesses but BUSINESS DID NOT CREATE PERMANENT JOBS TO MEET THAT DEMAND. Why? Because the stimulus was a temporary increase in spending and did not represent a long term increase in business. Businesses met that one time increase without hiring many people. The reckless stimulus spending did not create an investment opportunity for business. The only way we will see real, long term growth in jobs is if we eliminate the oppressive regulation of business (not Wall Street), change the tax structure so it is comparable to other countries, allow businesses the flexibility to make labor more efficient and STOP THE SPENDING.
Printing money did not work because interest rates were already as low as they could go. More dollars chasing the same amount of good and service means price increases not more jobs.
Our bloated and inefficient government is what is thwarting job and economic growth and the reckless stimulus spending and the reckless printing of money have not and will not do anything to fix it.
Obama is so h*ll bent of “taxing the rich” (whatever that means) because it is a campaign strategy not because it is good for the country. Obama is obsessed with getting reelected so he can ram more of his “hope and change” left-wing, near socialistic programs into law. The Democrats with Obama in charge will continue to spend and spend. More and more social programs will mean more and more people with little incentive to work and more and more voters living off the programs advocated by the SPEND, PRINT, REGULATE, and TAX DEMOCRATS . His “taxing the rich” attitude will send more and more jobs out of the country.
Mr. Obama: stop campaigning, stop SPENDING, TAXING, and REGULATING and do what is good for the country.
We must continue to VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Posted by: AngryMobVoter | August 31, 2011, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Hey Mary/ABC,
No mention about the fact that Obama scheduled his speech during the same time as the republican debate with Perry. Why doesn’t Obama pick the another night? He usually gives his speeches during mid-day not in the evening. Why don’t you question this or call the White House on this scheduling conflict. We all know the reason and the reason why you don’t report it. Mary, you’re nothing more that a puppet to ABC.
Posted by: Gary Talcott | August 31, 2011, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Actually no. Its the GOP that are being ridiculous. This is WAY MORE important than a debate. Oh and by the way….so where are all the jobs the GOP have created during their FIVE WEEKS OF VACATION? Where is the infrastructure legislation to fix our roads and rails? Yeah the GOP has done a STUNNER job of it – NOT…All they are doing is everything they can to bring down the country and the economy..The GOP has NO INTEREST in actually GOVERNING.
Posted by: De | August 31, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Hey Mary/ABC,
No mention about the fact that Obama scheduled his speech during the same time as the republican debate with Perry.
Posted by: Gary Talcott | August 31, 2011, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
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Try the last paragraph Gary. “The president’s request to speak pits his address against the Republican presidential debate currently scheduled for next Wednesday at the same time.”
You’re going to have to read if you want to get it right.
Posted by: Jan | August 31, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Good for the president, at least those in the public, who are interested , will have a chance to hear contructive suggestions or plans to get Americans working again, instead of the pathic name-calling and whining done by the tea party candidates.
Jon Huntsman is the only adult in the field but he’s running for 2016, he knows the current candidates have no chance to win if they continue to pander to the tea party
Posted by: tmferretti | August 31, 2011, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Time for another email to the President. The majority of non-Catholic Christian churches have services on Wednesday night. As a Christian, President Obama should know this. Those devout enough to wish to attend are forced to decide: A-stay home and watch the President speak or B-go to church and miss the speech. Some, of course, can record the speech but not all Americans are rich enough to afford the equipment. Cannot understand why he can’t speak on Monday, Tuesday, or Thursday. I don’t know of any religion that holds services on those days.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Obama is desperate. That is the only possible excuse for pulling a cheap stunt like this. What little respect I had left for the man just went down the toilet with the integrity I thought he had.
Posted by: honeybeeTN | August 31, 2011, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The majority of non-Catholic Christian churches have services on Wednesday night.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Majority? Hardly not at all.
Posted by: Steph | August 31, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
“This is WAY MORE important than a debate.”
If this speech was a State of the Union or in response to some recent event then I would agree with you. But that is not the case here.
Ask yourself, what was scheduled first? Why is this speech so much more important than the others he has given on jobs? Why does it warrant a full Congressional audience? What can be gained by this sort of gamesmanship? The answers to these questions can lead even the most ardent Obama supporter to the realization that Obama is just being an *ss about this.
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Steph, I have friends that are various flavors of Baptist, Church of Christ, independent Christian, Methodist, various flavors of Church of God, with a few Pentacostals thrown in. All of them have regularly scheduled Wednesday night services for Bible study or prayer gatherings.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
“Time for another email to the President. The majority of non-Catholic Christian churches have services on Wednesday night.”
Huh?? What are you talking about? This has to be the silliest argument I’ve heard. Even if true, who holds weekday services at 8pm?
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Jobs are more important than another Republican debate. The address to Congress underlines this in a very strong way. The sooner some more real policies get put in place, the better.
Posted by: Roberta | August 31, 2011, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
The president has the right to give a speech anytime he wants. Why are you tea partiers whining , the majority of Ammericans arn’t going to watch your debate anyway, your candidates are much too boring and predictable.
Your lucky you don’t have to deal with Harry Truman, not only would he have given a speech he would have had the lights shut off at the tea party headquarters.
Posted by: tmferretti | August 31, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
J.R., the churches I know hold services at one of these times: 6p, 7p, or 8p on Sunday and Wednesday nights. If the service is at 7p, the attendees won’t be home at 8p. I attend a church that is 45 minutes away. This is not unusual. Our service starts at 7p and ends around 8p. I seldom am home until 9.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
There is absolutely no reason why this address has to be given to a joint session of Congress. Obama wants to project himself as a leader when he clearly is not. He is also trying to show strength by making the republicans change the date of their debate.
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
- IF – job creation was what the “announcement” was actually about, Obama would have his written plan delivered to every Congressional office tomorrow and give a press conference on Tuesday to go over the plan in detail.
A speech to a Joint Session is pure theatrics in a place where he will not have to answer questions.
An empty suit providing more empty rhetoric.
Posted by: Dave in Colorado | August 31, 2011, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Whether you like or voted for Obama or not, this is extremely rude to do. Those of us who are truly interested in politics would like to see both of these events to decide who we would like to vote for next year. This is more evidence of the pettiness that Obama has shown throughout his presidency. He and his administration are demonstrating apathy towards the people who have worked on plans for this debate, not just the GOP contenders. I see this as a lack of good judgement and a very partisan and unpresidential move. This is a move a kid would make – not an adult and certainly not the president of the United States.
Posted by: Jane Topmiller | August 31, 2011, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
“Time for another email to the President. The majority of non-Catholic Christian churches have services on Wednesday night. As a Christian, President Obama should know this.”——He knows most of them think he’s a Muslim from Kenya so I don’t think that demographic is a real concern for him . Probably about 5% of Americans go to church on Wednesdays , if that. Out of that 5% , about 98% of those wouldn’t vote for Obama anyway.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I doubt he had any idea it was the Republican debate. Let’s face it; it’s not like any of them say anything.
Even Rasmussen– despite Scott Rasmussen writing a book to promote the GOP’s tea party– has been forced to acknowledge how very unpopular the GOP’s tea party is… and three of four frontrunners in the GOP field for president are tea party Republicans. “Looks like it’s a little more popular to be a liberal or a progressive these days…Being linked to the Tea Party is the biggest negative. ” (Tuesday, August 30, 2011; Rasmussen) Will the unpopular out-of-step far right and the GOP base have to rebrand again?
Posted by: Kimberly | August 31, 2011, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Bully pulpit time. Conservatives , go read some books. “My Pet Goat” is about your speed. Lol…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
“Time for another email to the President. The majority of non-Catholic Christian churches have services on Wednesday night. As a Christian, President Obama should know this.”
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Wouldn’t that mean the Republicans should know this too, and not hold their debate on ‘church night’?
Posted by: Vern | August 31, 2011, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Will the unpopular out-of-step far right and the GOP base have to rebrand again?—————They used “Moral Majority” already . If you look at the “Know Nothings” party of the last century , they were alot like the Tea Party loons of today too , and certainly the Tea Party is a big bunch of know-nothings for a fact . Let’s start a pool on what their next moniker will be now that they have stunk up another one to the point of it being as unwanted as a 10th plague shall we? Lol…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Last time I looked, the matter of economics had nothing to do with political campaigns. The matter of doing the nation’s business has nothing to do with political campaigns or the republican debates. The debaters are not members of Congress. What difference does it make if the time slots overlap? Why in the world would anyone care? Both will be rebroadcast and most everyone has DVR. It’s just another ridiculous thing to get hysterical about when there’s absolutely no reason. The sky is falling, yikes!
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
DE: “Its the GOP that are being ridiculous. This is WAY MORE important than a debate.”
. . . but not more important than Obama’s vacation. Laughable!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Who gives a damn about when churches hold services, I’m sure God doesn’t. I’m sure he does care about us being decent and respectful to one another. The conservative republicans who think its better to attack this president personnally than to dicuss his policies in a civil manner and come up with solutions of thier own, need to reflect on what Christianity tells them.
Because Christ helped the poor and thought a rich man had as much chance of getting into heaven as a camel has of getting through the eye of a needle , doesn’t make him a socialist,
Posted by: tmferretti | August 31, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
This is more evidence of the pettiness that Obama has shown throughout his presidency. Posted by: Jane Topmiller | August 31, 2011, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
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Oh please Jane, who’s being petty? Not to mention – childish.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I’m going with either something really rugged and tough sounding like “The Rough Riders” or something in the opposite vein , more cuddly and embracing like ” Moderates for America” maybe . It’s like Peyton Place on steroids everyday with the conservatives . LoL…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Tell Barry no thanks. The left can go watch any other idiot speech on jobs that Barry has ever given. They are all the same and they are all failures.
Posted by: foggy | August 31, 2011, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
“Because Christ helped the poor and thought a rich man had as much chance of getting into heaven as a camel has of getting through the eye of a needle , doesn’t make him a socialist”,—————But dividing the fishes / loaves evenly among the multitude somewhat does , wouldn’t you agree ?.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm……….That sounds like a personal problem to me.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
But dividing the fishes / loaves evenly among the multitude somewhat does , wouldn’t you agree ?
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
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Maybe if he were a politician. But he wasn’t, was he?
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Wouldn’t that mean the Republicans should know this too, and not hold their debate on ‘church night’?——————Those that are Christians should know and should have scheduled their debate on another night. You do know that not all Republicans nor conservatives are Christians….right?
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
“Last time I looked, the matter of economics had nothing to do with political campaigns.”
Exactly. So why are we going to hear what is essentially a campaign speech given in front of our nation’s politicians??
“The debaters are not members of Congress.”
Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul would like a word.
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
De wrote: “This is WAY MORE important than a debate”
Roberta wrote: “Jobs are more important than another Republican debate”
Of course the Republican debate was scheduled first. Face it this is just MORE DIRTY POLITICS by Obama. It is also a very childish ploy by a President who can’t do anything right.
It is the SPEND TAX and REGULATE policies of Obama which or killing job growth and giving us more economic STAGNATION.
Obama promised us jobs…WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
Is it 45 or 46 million on food stamps now?
Posted by: AngryMobVoter | August 31, 2011, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Get over it. No one, with the exception of those who attend said services, is ever going to reconsider scheduling something on a Wednesday night because it interferes with weekday mass or bible study.
Posted by: J.R. | August 31, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
JR: First of all, the right has been screaming for the President to present a “Jobs Plan”. That’s what he’s doing, as requested. Your insinuation is moronic. Secondly, if these Reps are on the campaign trail, they are not at work in Congress representing their constituencies. Their choice.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
One does not have to be a politician to be a socialist . Socialism is it’s own universe unto itself , it can , but does not have to be necessarily included in things political. IMO Jesus was a socialist because He preached that people should take care of each other even at monetary or personal cost , most importantly even enemies as well , just because it is the right and proper thing to do according to His teachings .
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
It is the SPEND TAX and REGULATE policies of Obama which or killing job growth and giving us more economic STAGNATION
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No, tax rates are at historic lows. It’s lack of demand and lack of consumer spending and buying power which is killing job growth and giving us more stagnation. Cutting spending and imposing austerity will only make it worse, just like is happening in Europe.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Because Christ helped the poor and thought a rich man had as much chance of getting into heaven as a camel has of getting through the eye of a needle , doesn’t make him a socialist,———————Christ was not speaking of only money/riches. He was talking about ANYTHING that a person deems more appropriate than his own salvation and relationship to God. He was speaking to a young wealthy man who He knew would not be able to put God ahead of his wealth. Oh…the eye of the needle is not the hole in one end of sewing needle. It refers to a gate in a city’s walls deliberately made so small that a camel would have to crawl thru on its knees. The purpose of this gate was to allow traffic in and out without opening the larger gates through which an enemy army could swarm into the city.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Conservatism = “I am not my brother’s keeper ” . Duly noted.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
AngryMobVoter | August 31, 2011, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm ………..and the T-partiers and John Boehner promised jobs! Yep, where are the jobs? It’s the job of the Legislature to write and present legislation, which can then be passed into law. Lay the blame where it belongs – and that is clearly with Congress.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm …………that would lead one to conclude then, that those who practice Christianity are by definition Socialists.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
J.R., why should I ‘get over it’? I’m an American citizen who would like the President to consider very common events when scheduling his speeches. I’m not demanding that he do it. I have as much right to my opinion as anyone else. After all, President Obama expressed ‘concern’ that voters would be upset with him when he scheduled a televised speech during DWTS. President Obama has a habit of scheduling televised appearances on Wednesday and Sunday nights. I just wish he would consider doing so on nights that are not special to Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
“that would lead one to conclude then, that those who practice Christianity are by definition Socialists.”———————If you look outside of this country , most Christians live in Socialist or Socialist leaning countries like Italy , France , Germany , Spain etc. . It’s no coincidence.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
the eye of the needle is not the hole in one end of sewing needle. It refers to a gate in a city’s walls deliberately made so small that a camel would have to crawl thru on its knees
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We have right-wing revisionist history, and now right-wing revisionist Bible too….I think it’s called blasphemy. The eye of a needle is the eye of a needle, and nothing else.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm…………..that’s nuts. It’s business. I don’t consider these things when scheduling a board meeting or stockholders meeting, or any other business meeting. To do so would be deranged – it’s business. If you’re so devout, and if you don’t have DVR or TIVO – it’s a personal problem. Not the President’s, and not the Nation’s. Yours and yours alone.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
that would lead one to conclude then, that those who practice Christianity are by definition Socialists.———————-Sorry, but no it does not. Socialism is a political concept. Christ had no interest in politics. Christ urged His followers to care for others in obedience to God’s will. Not because it is ‘the good thing to do’.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
NBC moves debate to 9pm, after Obama speech, giving Republican candidates chance to critique Obama proposals almost in real time. – b york
Posted by: foggy | August 31, 2011, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I’m an American citizen who would like the President to consider very common events when scheduling his speeches.—————-I think what the op was getting at is that you don’t seem to have the same concerns over when the Republicans hold their debate as you do for the President . Why are you holding him to a higher standard than the Republicans , who as you must know by now had set the debate date on a Wednesday FIRST , before the President. Were you shooting off an email just as quickly to them to announce your displeasure ? If not , you may have double-standarditis , a very common conservative malady. I suggest no Fox programming for 2 years minimum , and no Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann or Rick Perry type lunacy for the same time , you may have a slim chance of recovery . Good luck.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Christ urged His followers to care for others in obedience to God’s will. Not because it is ‘the good thing to do’.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
So if you don’t care for others, you are going against God’s will? Might be best to vote Democrat then.
Posted by: Sally | August 31, 2011, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm………..again, that would lead one to believe that the religious right in the United States would be extremely supportive of social programs and assistance to those who are less fortunate, yet clearly they’re not.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Socialism is an economic system , not a political system. More school , less Fox “news” . Duh.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
We have right-wing revisionist history, and now right-wing revisionist Bible too….I think it’s called blasphemy. The eye of a needle is the eye of a needle, and nothing else.————-Sorry Skip, but you are wrong. You might want to consult a Biblical scholar or an expert in ancient Greek and Arabic. The word used in the parable is the ‘name’ of a small gate in used as I described. Or you can remain in ignorance and rant.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
I can’t help but marvel at right-wing attempts to incorporate greed into Christ’s message. No wonder Pat Robertson makes so much money.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
In September 2010 (yes 2010) Obama told Brian Williams of NBC that once he returns from Martha’s Vineyard that he would present his Jobs Package – in 2010 ..same as last year…he did nothing…also a Joint Session od Congress is just a campaign speech for Obama and a Jobs Bill proposal does not warrant a Joint Sessionof Congress..Obama is such a “man-child”…
Posted by: Bob | August 31, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
.again, that would lead one to believe that the religious right in the United States would be extremely supportive of social programs and assistance to those who are less fortunate, yet clearly they’re not.—————Only if you believe American Christians are truly Christians who follow closely the teachings of Jesus , which clearly most are not. American Christians in general are Christians for only as long as it’s comfortable for them , just like the rich man in the parable noted previously. Ask them to give up their wealth, or heck , just pay a little bit more in taxes so their country can be a better safer place and you’ll quickly see (and hear) just how Jesus-like most American “Christians” are.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
mal2cats: And why is the GOP holding the debate on Wednesday night? Aren’t non Catholic evangelicals one of their largest supporters?
Posted by: phantomniter | August 31, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
SKIP: “No, tax rates are at historic lows.”
When they were as high as 90% at one point, everything is a “historic low.” Just another liberal scam. You just can’t trust them.
SKIP: “It’s lack of demand and lack of consumer spending and buying power which is killing job growth and giving us more stagnation.”
So, taking more spending and buying power away from the consumer to give to wasteful politicians will solve it? Liberals never learn. Then again, when you are getting freebies from your neighbor, some of them obviously don’t want to.
SKIP: “Cutting spending and imposing austerity will only make it worse, just like is happening in Europe.”
Right, the more you embroil yourself in Socialism the worse it will be.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
I’ve read at least 4 different translations of the Gospels…and in all of them the eye of a needle is simply the eye of a needle.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Skip , they will rationalize being low-brow trash anyway they can. Theirs is a religion of convenience , it’s indefensible but they’ll make up some great stories as you can see .
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
CA2011: “Socialism is an economic system , not a political system.”
When you are a Democrat, who involves Socialist principles in nearly everything they advocate, they are one in the same.
CA2011: “More school . . . Duh.”
Speak for yourself.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Congress has all the time in the world to pass bills on the concept of rape and conception, but doesn’t have a split second for jobs, nada. If they truly were about bringing jobs this nation, they would at least make the attempts, as seen nothing was submitted. Who cares if doesn’t pass the senate, at least congress would be doing its job and the American people would demand their bills to be passed if they were good enough. Oh well, guess the pendulum will be swung back again, until they get the message, both sides.
Posted by: phantomniter | August 31, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Not one nation on this earth survives on pure capitalism or communism. And which exactly are the socialist nations?
Posted by: phantomniter | August 31, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm ………………….Well, that seems a bit hypocritical, doesn’t it?
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
mal2cats: And why is the GOP holding the debate on Wednesday night? Aren’t non Catholic evangelicals one of their largest supporters?———————–I have no idea, phantomniter, they didn’t discuss their plans with me ;-). I wish all politicians would have consideration for Christians (Sunday and Wednesday), Jews (Saturday), Muslims (Friday), and 7thDay Adventists (Saturday). Do I expect them to…no. Do I demand they do it…no. I’m amazed at the hate and venom that has been directed towards me for even mentioning it.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Every day I wonder how LOW AND DESPICABLE obozo can get – and every day he stoops to be even LOWER AND MORE DESPICABLE.
Posted by: TeaPartyNation | August 31, 2011, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
American Christians hypocritical ? Absolutely , at least most of them anyway. Most “talk a good game” but don’t ask them to pay more taxes to help poor sick people get fair basic medical care , that’s (*GASP*) socialism ….
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
This doesn’t surprise you, does it? It’s really nothing different from what we’ve experienced for the past three years. Seriously, Mr. President, please say your staff made a mistake and reschedule.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I’ve read at least 4 different translations of the Gospels…and in all of them the eye of a needle is simply the eye of a needle——————-Skip, of course they all say that. They are in English. The original texts of the Bible, including the New Testament, were written in Greek, Arabic, or Hebrew. The word used in the original writings is translated ‘eye of the needle’ but it is describing a small gate….not a modern sewing needle with a hole at one end that in English is called the ‘eye’ of the needle. Like I said, consult a Biblical scholar (to be found at your nearest Christian college) or anyone that knows Arabic, or Greek, or Hebrew. Any decent college or university probably has one or more professors that can help you out. Heck, if you know a Christian minister, ask him/her.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Why on earth would anyone want to listen to Obama spew more lies? He is a total embarrassment to this country. The networks will get much better ratings going with the GOP debate. I’ll lose my dinner if I have to listen to Obama tell me that day is really night and blue is really green and it’s that way because he’s such a great leader, and oh by the way, if I don’t agree with him, I’m racist. No, thank you. I’ve had enough.
Beyond rude, beyond arrogant. This just shows us how desperate he really is, because he knows there is no way he is getting reelected.
Posted by: SeeingClearly | August 31, 2011, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
I’d rather see a Cubs Game than see his ugly mug on television again praising himself over and over as the Democrat Party lap dogs clap like trained seals. Obama is done, time to start packing the bags at the White House (stealing the computers and furniture like the Clintons did) and then we can contact the British Embassy and have the Winston Churchill bust returned to the White House (which was ours and not Obamas to give back). Can you just see what the White House looks like now inside with the Obamas living there? Probably a total mess.
Posted by: Bob | August 31, 2011, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
The original texts of the Bible, including the New Testament, were written in Greek, Arabic, or Hebrew
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And the translations I read wee translated from the original texts to English as alternatives to the King James version.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
All I can say to the purely “coincidental” timing by the White House of Mr. Obama’s speech, and to which I am sure he was party to the timing is; Knee-Gro Pleeze!
Your lies and politically-convenient untruths are past the point of absurdity, and are now bordering on sheer lunacy!
I do take pity on your press secretary however, as he is only doing what he is paid to do!
See you in 2012!
Posted by: American ex-Pat | August 31, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Isn’t it funny that those who condemn Christianity (or Christians) are the same people trying to pass themselves off as Biblical scholars? The “eye of the needle” is a gate, as previously noted. And those who claim that Christians as a group don’t give enough to help the less fortunate are just wrong. It might surprise you that Christians out-give non-Christians, and republicans out-give democrats. It’s just that democrats want to give with other peoples’ money.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
So, taking more spending and buying power away from the consumer to give to wasteful politicians will solve it?
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Let’s ask senior citizens if they think we should cut their Medicare benefits instead of closing tax loopholes for corporations, like the Tea Party wants to do.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
So if you don’t care for others, you are going against God’s will? Might be best to vote Democrat then.————-A-I believe in helping others both Biblically and socially. B-I have no problem with my tax dollars being spent to help others in need. I grew up extremely poor so I know how encouraging it is to be helped. C-Not all ‘help’ is good for the receiver; I believe it best to help one learn to help themselves rather than condemn them to relying on needing others to do for them what they can do themselves. D-I don’t vote by party; that’s one of the most dangerous concepts killing our country now.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Skip: In my research I found that the Jerome Biblical Commentary is a standard reference work found in many libraries, written by Catholic scholars. Its commentary on Matthew 19:24 states bluntly, “the figure of the camel and the eye of the needle means exactly what is said; it does not refer to a cable or a small gate of Jerusalem.” The Abingdon Interpreter’s Bible is a major reference work compiled by Protestant scholars, and its analysis of this passage is in full agreement. It seems that the wealthy have needed a reinterpretation of this parable in order to justify their “right” to enter the Kingdom of God.
Posted by: naturalcuriosity | August 31, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
What did NBC do to get in the Whilte House bad graces? Did Chuck Todd tell the truth about something?
Posted by: Sam Adams | August 31, 2011, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Clearly , no matter what spin is attempted , Jesus had a clear vision for his followers and it did not involve them acquiring / hoarding wealth , or personal possessions . It did require loosing love for said “things” , and once that really happens , money and belongings do not matter anymore . People will tend to rationalize a way to defend whatever they do , whether it is actively burning people in ovens to ignoring people being burnt in ovens to ignoring hungry sick neighbors while hoarding enormous stacks of money / wealth . It’s still the same thing in the long run , i.e. suffering and death for the many have-nots while the few mega-rich yacht race in Aruba and cavort in Cannes or Aspen. That’s fine too , just don’t claim to be a Christian and go hoarding money ,playing the part of a capitalist pig investor to the hilt , etc. because that is NOT what Jesus would do , nor would have his followers do , most certainly . .
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
In order for republicans to have a debate they would have to disagree upon something. Seeing as they are the party of lock step do nothing – dead weight, propped up like that dead guy in a weekend a Bernie’s, what is the sense of them having a debate anyway and really, who cares?
Obama has had to cart those dead beats around for two years, like a ball and chain around his skinny little ankles. Now they are not only a drag on him but the entire country. They and their tea terrorists alter egos have pushed America into its own dark ages with no age of enlightenment anywhere near the bleak horizon. Eric Cantor is unabashedly, nakedly aggressive in his quest to create a land of the few at the expense of the many and the so called “liberal media” treats his blabbering bullshit like its gospel from on high rather than calling him on his bluster. They want to get rid of the FDA and the EPA and let polluters and the same Wall Street bastards who crashed capitalism as we knew it in September 2008 run over all of us unchecked. Well, 30 years of that’s worked out great now hasn’t it? Get rid of the EPA and the FDA and we’ll have food and drugs like China. Antifreeze anyone? Seriously, republicans are the enemies of the state. They make Al Queda look like Boris and Natasha.
Posted by: Joe Scutella | August 31, 2011, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Good…they block everything for him. Let them get something blocked for once.
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
It seems that the wealthy have needed a reinterpretation of this parable in order to justify their “right” to enter the Kingdom of God.—————–Bingo! You win the prize . Here’s a cookie. -0-
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
The right to enter the Kingdom of God does not come through works, but is justified by faith. It is through Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection that we are promised eternal life. Liberals cry a lot about those less fortunate, but they are stingy when it comes to their own money.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
The President was booked with fundraisers every other day!
Posted by: Voice_Reason | August 31, 2011, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Obama continues to disappoint those who elected him. He goes on vacation, tells us to wait and he will reveal ( his too late policies ) his plan when he returns and then he selects the night of the Republican Debate. I will watch the debate but I certainly will not watch Obama give yet another talk…a big talker and a big spender but not a leader.
Posted by: deborah alfano | August 31, 2011, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
It’s hard to say if Obama’s job plan will be too little, but it’s already TOO LATE. It’s been over a year since the failure of Obama’s “stimulus” plan. I’ll say that again, it’s been over a year since Obama has done anything on jobs – despite his phony promise to have a laser focus on jobs.
Obama has frittered his first 2 and 2/3 years away on things that are of secondary or less importance to Americans – and he probably has only 1 year and 2 months left before he’ll be totally irrelevant. Too late, Mr. President, TOO LATE.
As painful as it will be, I’d much rather watch the debate than watch Obama’s pathetic attempt to regain relevancy.
Posted by: meab | August 31, 2011, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Let’s ask senior citizens if they think we should cut their Medicare benefits instead of closing tax loopholes for corporations, like the Tea Party wants to do——————-Skip, nothing I’ve heard or read about the TEA Party supports your claim they want to cut benefits whether on its own or ‘instead’ of closing tax loopholes. There are proposals to raising the age of Social Security eligibility which would apply only to those 55 or younger when a bill passes. They did it to me; I can’t retire with full benefits til 67. They have talked about the lunacy of letting younger people stop paying into SS and pay into private funds. The whole pyramid scheme that is Social Security would come crashing down. The Medicare cuts are against providers, not beneficiaries. How that works is reduce the ‘allowed’ amount; the provider gets less but the beneficiary still pays only their 80% (or zero if 100% of allowed is paid by Medicare).
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Golf?
Posted by: newcountryman | August 31, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
I hope he has a speech on the every single day they have a debate. By the way I’ve watched some of those so-called Republican debates. It’s nothing but a meeting for them to all get together and bash Obama and not talk about what they can do better. So they’re not really having a debate against one another anyway.
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Actually not much Jesus said went over very well with many folks , then or now. Christians like to talk on and on about loving their neighbor / enemies but look who mindlessly supports the militaristic war starting war mongering conservatives ? That’s correct , the conservative Christian right wing . Duh.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
really
while i wish the president had chosen a different night to do this
it’s simple enough to DVR the speech or the debate or just catch one of them later on the internet somewhere. how is this a crisis?
Posted by: jj | August 31, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I smell fear.
Posted by: newcountryman | August 31, 2011, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Its easy, just tell him “no” and that he can pick another date (and venue for that matter- if he wants stagecraft he can have liberal Spielberg build him a columned platform). There is no need for a state of the union speech. This is clearly Obama the campaigner in chief. Obviously, the very fact that he’s trying to disrupt the debate is a show of non bipartisanship. And we already know what he’s going to say. By the way, I knew he was going to interrupt Modern Family.
Posted by: chino | August 31, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
CA2011…You’re not seriously implying that democrats don’t start wars, are you? If so, I can remind you.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I smell a bunch of so-called Christian Conservatives who really don’t do what Jesus would.
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
For all of those who have responded to the article saying, way to go President and can’t wait to hear his speech over the debate, question for you…REALLY???? This President isn’t going to talk about job growth or have a job plan, at least not one that he’s going to implement. Obama talked about economic and job growth within months of his presidency, hence the stimulus bill that costs us millions upon millions. What happened to those jobs???? Yea not so much especially with unemployment over 9% STILL. And you really think Obama is going to do anything in the last few months leading up to his campaigning for reelection? The man has been on a permanent vacation. I don’t care what party people belong to if you are going to be a lazy, fame hounding who had a chance to prove themselves and didn’t – I’m gonna call you out on it! Get this joke and embarrasment of a President (hate to use that word to refer to him) out of here!!!!
Posted by: Prudence | August 31, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I can’t imagine we’d hear anything new or bold from this president in yet another economy/jobs speech.
Posted by: s | August 31, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
@JACKSMITH…I’m not the won going around campaingning my Christian Conservative values either…
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
LOL! ………….. Who wants to listen to a bunch of Republicans, pull their “hip-pocket” complaint out (COMPLAINT INSTRUCTIONS: ONLY USE WHEN YOU DON’T CONTROL THE WHITE HOUSE) …….. Republican Complaint: “The Government is Too Big and Spends Too Much.” …….. and then, after one of these Republicans are elected, they’ll revert back to Dick Cheney’s words, “DEFICIT’S DON’T MATTER, REAGAN PROVED THAT” ……. LOL! ….. That’s all that we’re going to see in yet another Republican debate. Republicans using that same old card, “We’re fiscal conservatives”, i.e., the card they throw out every time they’ve lost the White House. ….. For me, I’d rather listen to the President talk about “JOBS” and getting our country moving forward again. The Republicans had 12 years of controlling the congress (1995-to-2007), 6 YEARS OF WHICH, they even had a Republican President ALONG WITH THE WHITE HOUSE. They had their “more than a decade chance”, now just move out of the way Republicans… the Dems are not done fixing the mess you guys left!
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
SKIP: “Let’s ask senior citizens if they think we should cut their Medicare benefits instead of closing tax loopholes for corporations, like the Tea Party wants to do.”
As usual for liberals, you setup a false premise. First, we could always cut government elsewhere before raising taxes. Second, all of our government programs would do much better if based on or handled by the private sector rather than regressive Socialist policies. Here we are some 80 years after the New Deal and your Socialist policies are still unsustainable. How many more years do you liberals need? Your Socialist utopia failed. Time to go back to freedom again.
Regarding loopholes, the biggest loophole of all is our unequal tax system. If you really want to get rid of the loopholes, a flat tax favored by many conservatives would do just that. Suddenly, closing “loopholes” isn’t as attractive to liberals.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
@JACKSMITH…one
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Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
And the translations I read wee translated from the original texts to English as alternatives to the King James version——————Well, the KJV was supposedly translated from original texts also, but since King James ordered the work for ‘political’ reasons as much as spiritual who knows. But you are correct. Most translations since KJV were done from the original writings; some were not. Versions such as The Good News for instance were simply the KJV done in ‘modern’ English.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
The joint session should tell the President to send the written speech and warn him that if it is more of the same he should not waste the timer of congress or the American people. People who listen to such a speech are less intelligent after hearing the speech and wasted their valuable time! As Benjamin Franklin said “Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation.”
Posted by: Voice_Reason | August 31, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
jacksmith0110…the Democrat party fought Republicans for 100 years over integration. The Democrat party is the party of the mob. Actual violence versus accusations of violence. The thuggery of the SEIU, Democrat-formed KKK, segregationists, etc., etc., were all creations of devout Democrats. So, if you’re talking about who starts wars, I think history/reality provides your answer. Your party was for Obama’s wars before they were against them!
Posted by: s | August 31, 2011, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Senator Joe Biden and Senator Barack Obama, who each had millions, gave less than 2% of their income to charity before being elected vice-president and president. Not exactly poster children for charitable giving. If you’re giving at least 10% of your income, I commend you. If not, you may want to look into your own heart before judging others. I’m thinking that’s what Jesus might do. Don’t know for sure, just thinking.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
As Benjamin Franklin said “Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation.”——————He was probably stoned as a bat when he said that .Old Ben liked the weed , yep he did.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
All I can say Is tjhe man(Obama) was left with economy ready to fold and nobody(House/Senate)wanting tofix the problem,and play how can take “advantage” of the situation(Rep/Dem)fight and bitch each other no cooperation and everyone wants a FIX? elect NO incombants (for start)-SET amount of terms limits(House/Senate)no carreer politicians.make it by law people must vote (set 50.00 )every year and changes will happen
Posted by: Paul Dienstag | August 31, 2011, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
all of our government programs would do much better if based on or handled by the private sector
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Wrong again. The private sector will demand higher premiums to cover higher profits. The private sector sales pitch is just another scam, it will not save the public money and neither will cutting government protections for consumers.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
For those expecting something “bold” from Obama on jobs, a reality check. His rhetoric may be lofty but his record thus far has been one of a political pragmatist. Though his supporters, of which I was one and now I’m hedging, have expected him to hit daylight like Gayle Sayers and run off big chinks of yardage. Instead we’ve had Bronko Nagurski, three yards and a cloud of dust or being thrown for a loss every other play. I’ll mix metaphors, but we expected FDR and got a little too much Nevile Chamberlain.
Posted by: Joe Scutella | August 31, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
I don’t understand some of you. I don’t approve of 90% of President Obama’s policies and actions, but he IS the President. What he says and does has a direct impact of most if not all Americans. I want to know what he thinks about issues and what he wants done. How can I approve or disapprove if I lack knowledge?
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
S…I’m pretty sure I implied that democrats started their share of wars. Bill bombed the former Yugoslav republics without UN approval (of course that was to divert our attention from his problems at home.) JFK and LBJ got us into Viet Nam (or was that George Bush’s fault, too.) President Obama escalated our involvement in Afghanistan, causing a huge surge in casualties. By the way, even Bill and Hillary said we were right to remove Saddam from power.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Republican Complaint: “The Government is Too Big and Spends Too Much.” …….. and then, after one of these Republicans are elected, they’ll revert back to Dick Cheney’s words, “DEFICIT’S DON’T MATTER, REAGAN PROVED THAT” ……. LOL! ….. That’s all that we’re going to see in yet another Republican debate. Republicans using that same old card, “We’re fiscal conservatives”, i.e., the card they throw out every time they’ve lost the White House. ….. For me, I’d rather listen to the President talk about “JOBS” and getting our country moving forward again. The Republicans had 12 years of controlling the congress (1995-to-2007), 6 YEARS OF WHICH, they even had a Republican President ALONG WITH THE WHITE HOUSE. They had their “more than a decade chance”, now just move out of the way Republicans… the Dems are not done fixing the mess you guys left!
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Excellent.
Posted by: Francis | August 31, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I’d bet that Obama wants to do to the House Republicans (especially the Tea Party Caucus) what he did to the Supreme Court during his State of the Union back in 2010 (fact check?): criticize them on national TV and have all the Democrats in the room stand up and applaud. This will be a case of him saying “we need to invest in America’s future” and having the Democrats cheer while the Republicans, knowing that “invest” means “spend money we don’t have”, sit quietly; saying “we need everyone to pay their fair share” and having the Democrats cheer while the Republicans, knowing that “fair share” means “get more money from the 50% who pay taxes and give it to the 50% who pay no taxes at all”, sit quietly. This is a transparent, albeit brilliant, attempt to fire up his base (“Obama has a brass pair, finally!!!”) while appearing to independents (“Look!! A grown-up among children!!!). Great theater. A tragedy, nonetheless.
Posted by: Steve75 | August 31, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
mal2cats: Some people just don’t like religion in politics. I don’t think it’s hatred towards you personally, but the concept of bringing in faith irks some people. I guess it would bother me if the president decided this speech on Easter but then again common sense would prevail in this scenario, unless it was some sort of real emergency.
Posted by: phantomniter | August 31, 2011, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
How can I approve or disapprove if I lack knowledge?—————–Oh please. Just miss church for one night if you value what the president might say . Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
President Obama knows that he cannot get anything passed without approval in the House. But he continues to play his games. He came up with this plan with no bipartisan support, or even republican input. He then goes on national television to tout his plan, hoping that whatever he tells the country will get the public to phone their representatives. This from a man who said he would change Washington. A leader doesn’t try to drag others to his point of view. A real leader tries to find common ground for the common good. But I can only think of a few issues on which President Obama compromised, and they were only because he had no other choice.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
really while i wish the president had chosen a different night to do this
it’s simple enough to DVR the speech or the debate or just catch one of them later on the internet somewhere. how is this a crisis?——————–I’m the one that started this. It’s not a crisis. I merely pointed out that Wednesday nights is a ‘church night’ for most Christian churches. I didn’t go off on a rant demanding that it be changed or declared a crisis. I later pointed out that while many can record the speech, not all Americans can afford DVDs or DVRs. You mentioned the internet; not all Americans can afford a cheap computer let alone internet access. Take me: yep, I have 3 computers in the house and have internet access. However, my only internet access is via satellite which is expensive and has severe broadband limits. I couldn’t watch the speech on the internet because I would go over my download limit which then costs me money to restore. My point is: not every American is the same. We have different views, different resources. But many posters here seem to think I’m some religious fanatic because I happen to believe my Wednesday night should be at church. WOW, what a crime.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Dont give in. who cares about the republican wanna bees are crying about now. the guy in charge is about to speak to the problem of jobs. you would think the republicans would want to hear whats gonna be done to create jobs somthing that for the last decade they have only been abe to elimanate, destroy and send off shore. have the speech when you want where you want and everybody needs to be listning.
Posted by: rbp | August 31, 2011, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
ANONYMOUS: “. . . all of our government programs would do much better if based on or handled by the private sector rather than regressive Socialist policies.”
SKIP: “Wrong again. The private sector will demand higher premiums to cover higher profits. The private sector sales pitch is just another scam, it will not save the public money and neither will cutting government protections for consumers.”
The failure of your government programs speak for themselves and to who is wrong in this debate. If some in the private sector raise prices too high, it will only leave the door open to competitors who will offer the same service at a more reasonable price. It happens everyday. This is the beauty of the free market.
The true scam is basing your supposed protections on central-planning politicians in government, who’ve already central-planned us into unsustainability and economic disaster.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Oh please. Just miss church for one night if you value what the president might say . Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much.——————No, I have a DVR. I will go to church while it is recording and then watch it later. As I just posted before this one, some Americans don’t have the money to buy DVRs. Hmmmm, you would think a compassionate Democrat such as yourself would have thought of them instead of me. Your own bigotry and hate caused you to miss the whole point of that post which was directed to those who said it was unimportant to listen to President Obama’s speech.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
@JACKSMITH…Obama and Biden were not going around preaching their Christian values though…they didn’t mention 1 word about Jesus at a town hall meeting or campaign speech. Conservative right wings do however and then at the same time act like Lucipher’s best friend.
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
RBP…I think I’d rather listen to how things are going to change in 17 months, than to listen to the President tell us the same thing he’s been telling us for the last 31 months.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Print more money Mr. President , if the rich won’t share then let’s just devalue their “stash” . You want to play hardball Tea Party Bozos ? You got it . QE3 coming soon to devalue YOUR hoard of whatever conservative money grubbing scum. Wah wah wah , cry cry cry. Don’t forget about your new 3.8% HCR tax either or we’ll put you in with Wesley Snipes…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Justayreal…How soon you forget. Look back at the President’s campaign. He most certainly did talk about religion, and his religion. He just doesn’t apparently believe in sharing his own wealth, which is true of many liberals, as well.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Always the narcissist!! His way or no way. Cares about NO ONE except his own agenda…
TYPICAL!
Posted by: Keepyourpower | August 31, 2011, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
This jerk can give a speech from the oval office on Tuesday or Thursday or tonight for that matter. He’s just playing politics. By the way the guy who thinks that every Rep is rich is brainwashed (aren’t there more poor and middle class than rich- and how do you explain all of Obama’s/Clinton’s/Gore’s rich friends?), that thinks that every Rep is a whacked out Christian is brainwashed. You are the ones who stereotype and pre judge (and sound like you’re in the 8th grade). Grow up. Use logic. Realize you have been programmed by your liberal union teachers since you were a kid.
Posted by: Chino | August 31, 2011, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
CA2011: “Print more money Mr. President , if the rich won’t share then let’s just devalue their “stash” . You want to play hardball Tea Party Bozos ? You got it . QE3 coming soon to devalue YOUR hoard of whatever conservative money grubbing scum. Wah wah wah , cry cry cry.”
Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most?
Finally some honesty from the central-planning Socialists. Like I said, they’re shameless.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
God I hope he doesn’t name actually business names to promote, because the blessings of Obama have lead to failure every time. He has the anti-Midas touch. It’s amazing to see him actually chasing ideas that are exactly the opposite of what the nation needs to do to recover. Obama does his best for the country when he just disappears on vacation and leave stuff alone. What I expect to hear from 0bama is that he’s going to offer a second round of what brought us here. He’s going to have a rough time getting reelected on the record of his yet to fail, socialist revolution.
Posted by: TexBork | August 31, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
JACKSMITH you’re probably talking about a TV interview or something like that…he’s never stood up in front of a whole crowd of people and talked about his religious beliefs for campaign purposes.
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
@JackSmith there is the rub…Obama and his minions are actually FRIENDS of Lucifer.
Posted by: Keepyourpower | August 31, 2011, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Conservatives give between 30% and 50% more (of their own money) than liberals do, depending on the study. You can find that in the New York Times, the conservative bastian of American media. Liberals are great at helping the less fortunate, as long as they don’t have to do anything, and as long as it’s someone else’s money.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
mal2cats: Some people just don’t like religion in politics. I don’t think it’s hatred towards you personally, but the concept of bringing in faith irks some people. I guess it would bother me if the president decided this speech on Easter but then again common sense would prevail in this scenario, unless it was some sort of real emergency.————–But I didn’t bring religion into politics. I never said President Obama MUST schedule around religious gatherings. I don’t want a theocracy in this country. Have you ever read “The Handmaid’s Tale”? Scary stuff. My point was that our leaders (plural) should consider very basic issues as when the greatest number of Americans can view/attend important events like presidential speeches. Can you imagine the uproar if he tried to pre-empt …say…the Super Bowl or NCAA Basketball Finals? LOL
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
No, I have a DVR——————–Well good for you. If you didn’t though , would you miss church to see what this particular president had to say ? That’s all that really matters , because anyone who’d want to know what he said would be smart to watch the address themselves as it happened . I’m sure you’ve probably missed Wed. services before , and since Wednesday evening services are not specifically required by God , I’m sure He wouldn’t mind. And how am I a bigot ? I don’t hate anyone either , but I do have a fair amount of contempt for certain people who call themselves quite erroneously Christians, I’m sure you noticed .
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
JackSmith, I’m sorry but I wish you would stop bashing Democrats and/or liberals about giving. I have as many liberal friends as conservative. Some are Christians, some are other faiths, some have no interest in religion. They are all compassionate, caring, selfless individuals. It’s unfair to assign the same values and attitudes based on whatever ‘group’ we speak of.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
This should not come as a surprise, Just another Harpoon thrown by the Obama
Administration. Boehner should not accept the Presidents request for a joint
session. Tell that man to go straight to hell.
Posted by: TheScalesofJustice | August 31, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
3.8 hcr tax only effects a couple who makes a net profit of over 500,000 on ther sale of there home. then 38.00 for every thousand over the 500k. stop trying to scare people with just part of the facts
this tax will have no effect on the average american
Posted by: rbp | August 31, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
The failure of your government programs speak for themselves and to who is wrong in this debate
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We’ll see if the public thinks these programs are failures. The Republicans should run on this question…in fact I’m counting on it!
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
MAL2CATS…I will lay off. I’m just a bit tired of our friends here who bash Christians, and portray themselves as saints. Christ told us it would happen, but it doesn’t make it any more comfortable. Any time we lump all liberals or conservatives, republicans or democrats, Christians or non-Christians into a group, it’s unfair and unpleasant.
Posted by: jacksmith0110 | August 31, 2011, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
“Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most?”————————- Well obviously it will have the greatest impact on the people who have the most currency Jethro , duh. Suppose the QE3 devalues the dollar by 10% ( just as an example ) Ok now Einstein , which is bigger 10% of $10,000 or 10% of $1,000,000,000 ? You need to get off of Mommy and Daddy’s computer , they are going to spank you when they get home you little brat ! LoL!
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most?
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The Chinese actually. But the Tea Party doesn’t want that.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
If I were Boehner, I’d invite the President to address the House of Representatives … on Saturday at 11:30 PM EDT. Two long-running comedy shows competing for America’s “eyeballs”: Saturday Night Live versus Is the Democrat Party Smarter than a Fifth Grader?
Posted by: Steve75 | August 31, 2011, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
(I’m still chuckling ….)
Posted by: Steve75 | August 31, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
CA, no I don’t attend all Wednesday nights. Probably will miss tonight unless I can get this last blasted query to finish. I have missed church services to watch important speeches by this president and others IF there was not a compelling need for me to be at church. If I couldn’t record next week’s address, it’s possible that I would stay home. I think more jobs in this country are absolutely critical and I’m very interested in what the president and Congress plan to do about the problem. I have far too many friends and family unemployed! On a personal note: I believe you have displayed bigotry and hate toward me. Instead of rational discussion, you chose to mock me and my faith.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
“Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most?”————————- Well obviously it will have the greatest impact on the people who have the most currency Jethro , duh.
The most currency? And you are mocking someone else?
Posted by: foggy | August 31, 2011, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Coincidence, my ass.
obama scheduling this on the same night as the debates is childish politics. Oh but wait, what has obama done that isn’t childish politics.
Posted by: larry | August 31, 2011, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
@Foggy, I’m not bashing Christians..I’m only pointing out politicians who campaign on Christian values, and don’t act like who they say they are when they get in office…anybody who claims they’re something they’re are not I will critcise, whether Islam or Christian…
Posted by: justayreal74 | August 31, 2011, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
I can’t believe how clueless Obama has become.Boehner has just turned him down for parlimentary and security reasons.Not only does the President look political and silly for trying to disrupt the Republican debate, he looks like an idiot who is unaware of the policies and procedures of the House.Even worse he reinforces the perception of weakness evident since the debt-ceiling cave-in.By tomorrow this King Canute-like exercise of dictating to Congress will be the talk of the news shows-look for Ed to have a TIA trying to explain this fiasco away.
Posted by: Nephron | August 31, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
If the private sector can really offer services at a better price than the government they wouldn’t have been afraid to compete against a public option for health insurance, but as we all know they knew better themselves and chickened out.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
CA2011: ““Print more money Mr. President , if the rich won’t share then let’s just devalue their “stash” . You want to play hardball Tea Party Bozos ? You got it . QE3 coming soon to devalue YOUR hoard of whatever conservative money grubbing scum. Wah wah wah , cry cry cry.””
ANONYMOUS: “Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most? Finally some honesty from the central-planning Socialists. Like I said, they’re shameless.”
SKIP: “The Chinese actually.”
No, Skip, it’s your little guy who will pay for it when prices are raised to make up the difference. Like I said, ain’t Socialism grand?
Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Carney indicated that complicated scheduling issues forced the “coincidental conflict.” However, you would think that Obama would have consulted with congressional leaders BEFORE working it out with the networks. The house has now asked that the speech be postponed until Thursday, the 8th.
Posted by: Linda | August 31, 2011, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Basically you can’t value money or personal belongings above what is good and decent and right . You can’t love your “things” more than you cherish your soul , your heart of hearts . Read into that what you will , but that is the nexus of the parable of the rich man asking Jesus how to get to Heaven , in a nutshell.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Conservatives are responsible for the majority of donations to charities. Democrats generally don’t give much, rather, they want to steal money from other to give to the poor. I’m 24 and make just over $50,000. I pay taxes, contribute the max to my 401K and have an automatic contribution of 10% of my paycheck going to WorldVision. Don’t tell me I need to pay more taxes to “help” people. I already give 10% of everything I make to charities.
Posted by: so-over-it | August 31, 2011, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Most bigots aren’t that self-aware.——————Most idiot conservatives can’t spell cat either , so I’m already quite impressed with your journalistic / grammatical aplomb. Wow, you are so smart ! A whole sentence and you got every word spelled correctly , and with a hyphen no less ! You are way over-qualified to be a Republican presidential candidate , obviously. LoL…
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
it’s your little guy who will pay for it when prices are raised to make up the difference
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There’s a difference between devaluing currency on the world market and inflation….but we can’t expect right-wing voodoo economists to acknowledge the difference.
Posted by: SKIP | August 31, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Anonymous | August 31, 2011, 5:02 PM, SAID:
“Who do you think devaluing our currency will hurt the most?”
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LMAO! …….. You’re like a day late and a dollar short regarding worrying about the “devaluing” of the U.S. currency. The Republicans already did that for all of us during the 6 years that they controlled the White House, Senate and House (January 2001-to-January 2007).
Here’s the DOLLAR INDEX over the past 10 years:
February 1st, 2002 = 119.75
July 4th, 2008 = 72.69
NET LOSS IN DOLLAR EXCHANGE VALUE DURING THE BUSH YEARS = 47.06
DOLLAR INDEX TODAY, AFTER 31 MONTHS OF OBAMA = 74.14
LOL!…. Obama actually has raised the value of the dollar against other currencies, in comparison with the low point it was at under Bush.
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
mal2cats: However, the republicans are having their debate also. It is two sided and there is no denying, but fundamentally evangelical Christians are the GOP’s largest supporters. Do I understand the need for some people to find solace in their faith, sure, but I would like the same consideration given to others which would include myself.
Posted by: phantomniter | August 31, 2011, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
SKIP | August 31, 2011, 5:46 PM, SAID:
“There’s a difference between devaluing currency on the world market and inflation….but we can’t expect right-wing voodoo economists to acknowledge the difference.”
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LOL!….. Skip, I don’t think it’s a matter of the right-whiner tards “acknowledging” the difference. I think they don’t UNDERSTAND that there’s a difference between the Exchange Rate of the dollar against world currencies and inflation.
LOL!… poor anonymous… he/she needs to go take a class in Finance and Economics.
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Amazing-none of the Obamaphiles want to address how Obama looks like a complete idiot tonight over this joint session demand.Even they can see that he really laid an egg today.
Posted by: Nephron | August 31, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Don’t tell me I need to pay more taxes to “help” people. I already give 10% of everything I make to charities.——————–That’s your business , taxes come FIRST. That’s the law here, now if you want to pay 10% to whoever that is fine , but when your taxes come due you’d better pay up or you’ll be sitting next to Wesley Snipes . Cheapskate Christians , pay your taxes or get out ! The churches and pastors are already meddling in politics like some Islamic mullahs , it’s high time that churches in the USA who hold sermons specifically promoting or demeaning ANY political group need to lose their tax-exempt status , that little move would shut up about 98% of the churches spewing out political tinged services , especially the ones full of ignorant hicks in the stupid dirty South , where I unfortunately live . Brainwashed by Fox AND their right wing preacher (s) the poor working clods have no chance at being intelligent and creative or making smart objective decisions , ever . Sad, it really is.
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
mal2cats: However, the republicans are having their debate also. It is two sided and there is no denying, but fundamentally evangelical Christians are the GOP’s largest supporters. Do I understand the need for some people to find solace in their faith, sure, but I would like the same consideration given to others which would include myself.———————–I have been fortunate in knowing people from all (I think) of the major religions and several not so large including a couple Wiccans. I also know a few agnostics and atheists. Christ instructed us to share our faith; He never said to force it on others. I try hard not to, but being a mere human I’ve probably goofed there as well. All religions have their extremists; but those no more represent true Christians than they do devout Muslims.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
@CA2011 – If you hate the South, where I also live, why don’t you leave? Is it because we have low taxes and you probably couldn’t find a job up North or on the West Coast? The issue is that so much of our taxes go to “help” people. However, with the government administering those funds, inevitably a substantial amount is lost to fraud and simply paying government workers to administrate the programs. If I had that money in my paycheck, I would send more directly to the charities and more would go to actually helping people.
And does your diatribe against churches spewing politically tinged services include Rev. Wright or Al Sharpton?
What is really sad is that you are so blinded by your hatred that you will never be able to understand other people and dare I say, become “open-minded”.
Posted by: so-over-it | August 31, 2011, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Basically you can’t value money or personal belongings above what is good and decent and right . You can’t love your “things” more than you cherish your soul , your heart of hearts . Read into that what you will , but that is the nexus of the parable of the rich man asking Jesus how to get to Heaven , in a nutshell.——————————–You’re very close. But what must come first is not ‘what is good and decent’ but God. And it isn’t just ‘things’; God requires us to place Him above all humans as well. When we place God first in our lives, then we will know what is good and decent in HIS eyes not just in our eyes.
Posted by: mal2cats | August 31, 2011, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
THE RESULTS OF REPUBLICAN TAX CUTS:
Reagan Tax Cuts –> Resulted in the national debt climbing…
…. from a balance of $935 Billion (January 1981) <— 205 years to get to this balance
…. to a balance of $2.7 Trillion (January 1989) Resulted in the national debt climbing…
… from a balance of $5.7 Trillion (January 2001) <— 225 years to get to this balance
… to a balance of $10.6 Trillion (January 2009) <— 8 years of Bush to get to this balance.
(an 86% increase in the national debt balance under 8 years of Bush)
Geeze Wolly, I wonder if those Republican "Bush Tax Cuts"… still in place today… WITHOUT any simultaneous cuts in spending (i.e., 2 wars, new federal department called "Homeland Security", MEDICARE Part D) have anything to do with the rapid increase in the national debt balance? Do you think we would have at least learned something from the "187% Increase" in the debt balance from the Reagan Tax Cuts?
LMAO!….. Democrats may be the "Tax and Spend" Party…. But, Republicans have sure proven to be the "BORROW and SPEND" party. ………. Now folks, which under which plan do you pay the additional burden of "INTEREST" on?
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Both the House and Senate leaders should accept the President’s request to address the Congress. A job’s bill is the business of the government and jobs are important to the Nation as a whole. On the other hand the debates are the business of the political parties. This early in the debates all we can expect is political posturing along with a lot of misinformation for the candidates. How many of us really expect to hear anything of substance in this debate? Lets get on with the real business at hand, JOBS.
Posted by: C. Whitaker | August 31, 2011, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Spoiled self centered arrogant brat,
Decides to have his speech same time others have had plans already made.
Cry baby if he cannot get his way… there is no need for them to be there anyway it’s just another boring same speech he has nothing of worth to say anyway.
Posted by: firedup49 | August 31, 2011, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
You’re very close————–Yes but I’m not right and you know better , correct ? Actually , you are a pompous twit who wouldn’t know Jesus if he was standing next to you. Sorry , but that is my take on you , and most American Christians as well, so don’t feel like the Lone Ranger . You are not nearly alone in your egocentric holier-than-thou ivory tower , unfortunately for the rest of us who have to listen to your imbecilic condescending b/s , and those like you who think they know it all . Go away , please . We all know you know more /better than anyone else , you’re an expert on Greek and Latin etymology after all , you are probably an economic expert as well , and you likely are a nuclear physicist on your days off , I mean , you’re a windbag of a conservative after all and there’s just no way some liberal could know more than you about much of anything , except socialism of course . Right ?
Posted by: ca2011 | August 31, 2011, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
@Georgie_Bushie – I do like how you conveniently left out how currently under Obama the debt limit is approx. 17.5 trillion, which is an increase of 7 trillion in 2.5 years.
Posted by: so-over-it | August 31, 2011, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
SO-OVER-IT | August 31, 2011, 6:33 PM, SAID:
“I do like how you conveniently left out how currently under Obama the debt limit is approx. 17.5 trillion…..”
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LMAO! Who’s talking about “debt limits”, I’m talking about actual debt:
THE RESULTS OF REPUBLICAN TAX CUTS:
Reagan Tax Cuts –> Resulted in the national debt climbing…
… from a balance of $935 Billion (January 1981) Resulted in the national debt climbing…
… from a balance of $5.7 Trillion (January 2001) <— 225 years to get to this balance
… to a balance of $10.6 Trillion (January 2009) <— 8 years of Bush to get to this balance.
(an 86% increase in the national debt balance under 8 years of Bush)
So, "SO-OVER-IT", when are Republicans actually going to put forward a President who's a true 'fiscal conservative' …. LOL! …. or, are you foolish enough to fall for that line a "3RD" time?
Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | August 31, 2011, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Where are all the jobs that the Republicans promised in 2010. Where are they??? Just more talk and no substance as usual and all their little sheeple just keep following them blindly and keep spouting all the old talking points.. The GOP even has them believing that the wealthy are “just like them”. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure the top 2% are very appreciative of your sticking up for them and their lower tax rate.
I’m not envious of the wealthy I just think they should pay their fair share. Why am I paying 23% while they are paying 14%. They live in this counrty they enjoy all the benefits we have and need to pay their fair share. I know we will hear the tired old line of they are the job creators. They already have a low tax rate and it didn’t result in job creation here. Well, they did create jobs in China, India, Pakistan, Mexico and Vietnam all because they could get cheap labor. These “job creators ” told us exactly what they thought of the American workers when they outsourced all these jobs. They did the outsouce because we Americans have the audacity to want to earn a living wage and the “job creators” feel that that diminishes their profits so overseas go the jobs.
Posted by: What Now | August 31, 2011, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
a big part is now the wars are on the books(the bush wars). name anyting that obama has done that has increased the debt over what the republicans and the bushies got us into.
Posted by: rbp | August 31, 2011, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
remember who got us where we are today.
the republicans, the bushies, and the republicans
Posted by: rbp | August 31, 2011, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha !!! Boehner out-manuevers Obama AGAIN! This is so unfair; like boxing with a blind man. Hey, just read the ABC article about how the $500 million loan guarantee to Obama’s favorite solar panel mfgr in CA was awarded WITHOUT transparency by DOE, according to the GAO. Appears one of Obama’s fundraisers was a major investor. Not only is Obama clueless, he’s corrupt. (OK, lefties, pick one for your response: a) It’s Bush’ fault; b) Oh, yeah, well Nixon was corrupt before Obama; c) I’m racist; d) the Tea Party forced Obama to do it; e) Fox lies.)
Posted by: Steve75 | August 31, 2011, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
remember who got us where we are today.
the republicans, the bushies, and the republicans
Posted by: rbp | August 31, 2011, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
True, they came in promising a more ‘business-like approach’ to government and better opportunities for business and what we got were deficits, massive debt, a major unwanted war and an economic collapse.
Posted by: Chad | August 31, 2011, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Republican or Democratic debates are just talk, We should address Congress as to what their plans are NOW to fix the economy. Focusing on 2012 is not going to fix the issues we have now. A NO brainer
Posted by: Tony | August 31, 2011, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Also of all those candidates debating only one will be they winner. That means the rest will be losers.It’s a political dog and pony show. We need solutions NOW in 2011!
Posted by: Tony | August 31, 2011, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
A debate between Republican candidates is talk of what people will do IF they win and get into office in 2013 as a result of a 2012 election. Think people. When your family is hungry do you talk about how your gonna feed them a year from now or do you produce food for them each and everyday. To heck with campaigning. It’s governing time.
Posted by: Tony | August 31, 2011, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I am going just ignore Obama on August 31st – I do not think he will say something new – usual blaming & a lot of promises – Debates is much more important for me – so I just make my choice – if Obama will say something important – all media will be talk about
Posted by: Tata | August 31, 2011, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
This is nothing more than the President trying to upstage the Republicans on that night..It is nothing more than a stunt to boost his re-election campaign. The date of this speech needs to be changed!!
Posted by: Tim | August 31, 2011, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Typical of America these days that they can’t possibly do two things at the same time. So what if both things are held the same evening? Only Bachmann and Paul would be missing. Obama had already told Boehner about the Sep. 7th date weeks ago and Boehner was okay with it, obviously not thinking ahead about things, which is usual with Republicans in America, never thinking.
You can watch one and record the other either way, so what the hell is the problem here?
Posted by: Jason | August 31, 2011, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Amazing and unmitigated gall by POTUS. Perhaps by accepting the 8th, as offered by Boehner, Obama will be able to finish his plan and submit it in writing at the same time as the speech. We’re getting really tired of speech after speech, with no plans being presented.
Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice…not going to happen.
Posted by: Eric Baker | August 31, 2011, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Wait. I thought it was all about the jobs? Regardless, our sitting president wants to address the nation. Why should one of many debates trump that? I voted for the president; I will vote for him again. If John McCain had won the election and now wanted to address the nation on a night when Democrats were scheduled to have one of many debates, I would think they were totally out of line to ask the President of the United States to speak on another night. This is ridiculous.
Posted by: auntiedancer | August 31, 2011, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
whos Job is more imporatant the people that pay the taxes or the people that spend them as grants to folk that help political hacks return to the same job year after year without fullfilling all thier promises they made LASt ELECTION. T he republicans promised jobs did they deliver? why should we not give them the same level or work they provided the public.. Like Romney how many jobs did he kill when he sold comapnies and aquired the assetts for his own gain? Check out the other Well to do Republican Management types and see what they did for or to the pubic before you support one.
Posted by: Kent | September 1, 2011, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Here’s a reprise with update….
Yesterday, one commentator observed re: Pres. Obama’s call for a joint session:
“Of course, by proposing to speak before that august assemblage, to present still another proposal for job creation, he takes the risk of elevating too highly the level of national expectation; also risking the plausible possibility that viewer-ratings for his remarks might be lower than for those hoping to challenge him for his job, concurrently for that privilege debating.”
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And then we were informed:
“House Speaker John Boehner rejected President Barack Obama’s request to address a joint session of Congress the night of Sept. 7th and invited him to speak the next night instead. In a letter to Obama, Boehner said Sept. 8th would be better “so we can ensure there will be no parliamentary or logistical impediments that might detract from your remarks.”
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And now from the news-wire we learn:
President Obama will address a joint session of Congress >>>on Sept. 8<<< to lay out his plan for jobs and the economy, the White House announced Wednesday night…..(responding to objections) from GOP lawmakers. House Speaker John A. Boehner suggested that Obama come to Capitol Hill on Thursday night, a date that now puts the president up against the first game of the NFL season. ..
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Out of the debate-competition frying pan into the NFL-competition fire!
It appears to be Obama’s plight as a man running left, at weaving exceedingly deft,
in shifting right to run up against a “first game of the NFL season” night.
Posted by: SpecialKinNJ | September 1, 2011, 9:04 am 9:04 am
SKIP: “There’s a difference between devaluing currency on the world market and inflation . . .”
Aren’t we apart of the world market? How can we devalue our currency on the world market and not here at home at the same time? It’s impossible. Why do liberals want to devalue our currency again?
GEORGIE_BUSHIE: “I don’t think it’s a matter of the right-whiner tards “acknowledging” the difference.”
Nope. Skip was right. There is no difference. Nice civility, by the way.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2011, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
GEORGIE_BUSHIE: “Reagan Tax Cuts –> Resulted in the national debt climbing . . .”
Government giving the money back to the people who earned it can never be classified as government spending or debt, as it’s not the government’s money to begin with. Your government programs, on the other hand, absolutely should be.
GEORGIE_BUSHIE: “Geeze Wolly, I wonder if those Republican “Bush Tax Cuts”… still in place today… WITHOUT any simultaneous cuts in spending . . .”
Now you are getting it. We need to reduce spending to reduce our debt.
GEORGIE_BUSHIE: “187% Increase” in the debt balance from the Reagan Tax Cuts?”
Only liberals call giving the people their money back government spending and debt. You have to love how they lay claim to the people’s money as if it was the government’s all along.
GEORGIE_BUSHIE: “Democrats may be the “Tax and Spend” Party…. But, Republicans have sure proven to be the “BORROW and SPEND” party.”
Yeah, it’s expensive playing national security catchup after negligent liberal presidents.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2011, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Finally President Obama is fighting back, what a great strategy. Most people will be watching him because very few really care about those dreadfully boring Republican debates.
Posted by: Spencer | September 2, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
The only real canadate is Ron Paul HE CAN WIN perry and romnie are fake neo con’s that might as well be democrats. They flipflop and do or say anything to gain more power. Both sides are afraid of Dr. Paul because hes toe only man that will obey the constiution and the rest of the fake wall street puppits cant stand freedom and liberty. Obama and the rest are going down in 2012 so get ready to restore america. Freedom and liberty are comming back so stand up and let all the pressitutes and banker puppets know that we are not going to take it any more!
RON PAUL 2012 !!! HE CAN WIN!!!!
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