Comments on: Gay Rights Group Seeks Obama Role in State Marriage Fights

By: Johnny Jefferson

Johnny Jefferson — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:33:07 +0000

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By: vanhellslinger

vanhellslinger — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:48:47 +0000

Hey, what if in some twilight zone you were given a choice in life, 1. you can be an al qaeda operative, and choice 2. you can be a homsexual . Which would you choose to be, and there isn’t any other choices, it’s the twilight zone.

By: Searambler

Searambler — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:32:27 +0000

Alexandra, with all due respect, you’re full of crap. Especially when you say stuff like, “Making it a legal institution could open the door to other religious debates… multiple wives, marrying animals, marrying children or other outrageous things people believe in.” What religion practices marrying animals or children?!?!? That is called a ‘false flag argument’ and is, frankly, silly. Here’s a thought – remove religion from the equation entirely. Marriage is a legally binding contract that confers specific and special secular rights and privileges to 2 people who enter into that contract. Certain rights that non-married people do not enjoy. Denying a segment of the population access to those rights is pure, 100% discrimination, especially when the REASONS you cite are religious. Your statement, “Marriage is a binding contract between a man and a women in the eyes of god…” would probably hold water if HALF of all marriages didn’t end in divorce. Y’all have lost all credibility with the whole ‘sanctity of marriage’ argument. You also said, “People believe it can weaken the institution of marriage as a whole, as well as weaken traditional family values as a whole which are essential for our society.” Please, tell me, how does allowing 2 legally consenting adults of the same sex to get married accomplish this ‘weakening’? Would YOUR marriage or YOUR ‘family values’ somehow suffer or become weaker if you found out that the 2 guys or gals living next door to you were a married couple? Because if it does, then I submit the problem is YOURS, and not them………….

By: Alexandra

Alexandra — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:48:47 +0000

Opposing gay marriage is not discriminatory, its a long lasting belief that has been taught to older generations at a young age. Although I do not judge anyone for the choices they make this is more than just a political debate it is also a religious debate. Marriage is a binding contract between a man and a women in the eyes of god and many people brought up with a strong religious background do not understand gay ideals and consider it a sin. People believe it can weaken the institution of marriage as a whole, as well as weaken traditional family values as a whole which are essential for our society. Making it a legal institution could open the door to other religious debates… multiple wives, marrying animals, marrying children or other outrageous things people believe in. These laws are in place for a reason and although it is hard to deal with it, each state needs to make their best judgement call on whether they believe gay marriage should be seen as a legal bond. There are a few states gay couples can go and have their marriage made official but its hard to say that this option will be available in every state any time soon.

By: oonogil

oonogil — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:13:44 +0000

This is more of a religious issue than a political one. The mideastern religions have always preached against homosexuality. (Sometimes against heterosexuality). Imposing sharia law or any religious laws on the general public is a violation of the First Amendment.
Tea party evangelicals ignore the First Amendment.

By: Searambler

Searambler — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:41:49 +0000

Well Jon, Obama is not for all Americans, if your live in Arizona he doesn’t seem to care about the crime wave that is sweeping across the state from the hordes of illegals sneaking over the border! Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 1, 2011, 1:11 pm.

Except, that is a huge, Republican spawned LIE. There IS no ‘crime wave sweeping the state’ due to illegals entering the state. Over the last decade, the violent crime rate in Arizona has dropped by 19 percent, while property crime is down by 20 percent. Crime has also declined in the rest of the country, but not as fast as in Arizona. Truth is, illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans. Most come here to work, and in their desire to stay, they are generally afraid to do anything that might draw the attention of armed people wearing badges. El Paso, Texas, is next door to the exceptionally violent Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, and easily accessible to illegal entry. Yet it is one of the safest cities in the United States. The ‘crime wave’ you alluded to simply does not exist, despite the fact that Bill O’Reilly and FOX tell you it does. The FACTS prove them to be liars, once again…………

By: Searambler

Searambler — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:33:16 +0000

Have you read the constitution? I rather doubt it.
Posted by: Ivan | September 30, 2011, 4:51 pm

LOL! Probably more often than you. You CANNOT make gay marriage a state’s rights issue only. Because that would give states the ability to NOT recognize a legally binding contract made in another state, which IS unconstitutional. Under Article 4, section 1 of the Constitution, the ‘full faith and credit’ clause. Look it up and educate yourself. This is also the reason why DOMA would HAVE to be declared unconstitutional if someone were to actually fight it all the way up to the Supreme Court…………

By: Searambler

Searambler — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:26:42 +0000

It’s the PEOPLE who are against gay marriage, Searambler.
Posted by: Ivan | September 30, 2011, 4:51 pm.

And how many of “the people” were against ending slavery? Against ending the ban on inter-racial marriage? Against women having the right to vote? Against the Civil Rights laws enacted in the 60′s? Against invading Iraq, a country that did not attack us? Against Reagan’s illegal immigrant amnesty?

By: Searambler

Searambler — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:23:11 +0000

Sorry Jane, but I doubt the deportation numbers are real! Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 1, 2011, 7:15 pm.

Why? Because they reflect positively on Obama? You can “doubt” all you want, your doubt doesn’t change the facts. Someday I hope you take off your blinders. But I “doubt” you ever will…………

By: Searambler

Searambler — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:21:16 +0000

The thing is, though, whenever gay marriage is put on the state ballot, and this goes for ANY state. The people ALWAYS vote it down. Posted by: Ivan | September 30, 2011, 4:51 pm.

And slavery was similarly protected by certain states, remember? That doesn’t make it right, and it doesn’t make it less discriminatory. “In June 2011, two prominent polling organizations released an analysis of the changing trend in public opinion about same-sex marriage in the United States, concluding that “public support for the freedom to marry has increased, at an accelerating rate, with most polls showing that a majority of Americans now support full marriage rights for all Americans.”"