Tea Party Debate Audience Cheered Idea of Letting Uninsured Patients Die

Really good church going people aint’ they? No compassion or caring. Everyone takes responsibility for themselves? How about the elderly, the ill, the people w/o jobs? God help us all. Wake up people…If these people get in we will really know what problems are.

I am horrified that an audience would actually cheer for the death of someone. Our nation is in serious trouble if it elects an individual who has catered to a crowd that find applause and cheering the appropriate response to devastating tragedy like the one described in Blitzer’s hypothetical. I am so ashamed of these individuals.

What a SICK group of people Republicans have become! They represent the very WORST of American society…

Wonder what the word “Audience” means? One guy? Two guys? Maybe a demo plant.

The Amish pay for big medical bills through their churches all the time. It seems to work for them.

Lawrene – no was was cheering for people to die. They were cheering for people to take responsibility for themselves.

One thing these debates accomplish is showing the world what miserable people the Tea Baggers are.

I hope the people who cheered are without insurance one day.

I read somewhere else that the question was regarding a situation where the man chose not to purchase health insurance. Not that I condone the cheering, and I agree these people are crazy, but it does make it a little different story. If a person CAN purchase insurance affordably and just chooses not to, I don’t feel like I should have to pay for their care.

On another note, this is the dumbest group of politicians assembled on one stage in history. We are doomed.

CNDFox/TStorm ——- Give me a break!! ——- I could give you a list of instances of REAL progressive and union thug violence over the last two years…. and you get twitterpated over a “shout”!! —- The truth is that hospitals shift the cost of people who take no personal responsibility onto the rest of us… is that soemthing they should be proud of???

This must be the Tbagger version of “Christianity”. Sick? Got cancer? No health insurance………………………TOO BAD. YOU DIE !!!!! Alan Grayson was 100% correct about these right wing clowns.

This story will take on a life of its own because our spoon-fed society will believe what the blogs and second rate media tell them; they won’t bother to do the actual research and see that the “cheering” was actually in support of individual responsibility. This will get lost in the cacaphony of the likes of irresponsible editors at ABCNews.com (e.g., this article’s headline), Maddow, et. al.

This is unreal coming from an American who knows better! This kind of thinking is completely and morally UNAmerican. This is STILL the United States of American and NOT nazi Germany! Shame on you all! Do some reading and research people! Try googling the word – Nuremberg Code and do some rreal reading than rather listening to Ron Paul! You will hope that someday, someone will do all they can to take care of you medically.
Unbelievable!

Anybody that even considers voting for these right wing bozos and tbaggers, has a serious mental disorder. Throwing cancer patients, teachers, policemen, firemen, firs responders, seniors, education, and students under the bus, gets a round of applause from these kooks.

So where is the intensive for anyone to get insurance? And why should someone who has a job get footed the bill from taxes? This system is so screwed and is just one example of of every “free lunch” program that has bankrupted this country. What happened to the charities, family and friends to help ones in need? What has built our country great as it once was, is the freedom of choice. Dependency on a government broke program or welfare leaves no one with any incentive to get off the free program, but rather add more people. It reminds me of a Chinese Finger lock, it’s easy to go in but impossible to pull out, nor is there any reason you would want to get out. This is a numbers game that exponentially compounds itself and there is no escape, until it melts down. We are watching this play out right before our eyes. The government can not afford all this free stuff and entitlements, just look around to municipalities or other countries where this has happened. It will happen here in America if we don’t reform this mentality of a welfare state. So I ask, why should I be responsible for this uninsured 30-year old working man in coma? Where is this man’s family, friends? How about a church or charity to help raise money to help him recover? If no family and no friends and nothing else, the hard truth is he dies. It’s cold fact of life, we all eventually will die. IF you feel pity or want to help, then you can help him, or help raise money for his care. Perhaps, I may be more willing to help donate, than to be forced by government to pay the taxes that allow the caring hospital bill whatever they want.

Reading comments like those in support of the cheers for “personal responsibility” are also stunning. I love the idea that we should all be personally responsible. It is a fabulous concept. The problem is that the folks like were in this audience think it should only apply to the “others” whoever the current stereotype to hate may be (minorities, immigrants, unemployed, etc.) The reality: We are all dependent on each other.

Those same people in the audience cheering at the devastating tragedy of another are the same people who benefit from my tax dollars to get Medicare and Social Security (which they will not give up), have roads built so they can travel to that forum, use the scientific research I help pay for to cure their ailments, have regulators ensure their neighbors don’t dump raw sewage into their yards, have police keep folks from robbing them and to have a court system that will ensure their right to voice their idiotic opinion is not removed.
Get real! These people were not cheering “personal responsibility.” They were cheering out of callous and selfish thoughtlessness. If they were in a coma without health insurance, their families would demand we do something to help. They would be the first to run to Medicaid, shirk “personal responsibility” and use my tax dollars to pay their bill.

Now, there are some family values for you. Looks like their moral compass is pointing south.

funny that some of these people that “will not stand” for conservative “lunatics are completely fine with abortion.

How does like 2 people at most somehow represent an audience of over 1000 people? I’m not usually one to think “plant” or anything. But with the way some in the media are distorting things, I’m starting to wonder.

I mean when I think about it, it would be like the dumbest thing to do politically, and in no manner is what Ron Paul supported.

And the yells did seem to originate from the back.

But anyway, no point in getting worked up on that. Just don’t see how it can be reported as “the audience”.

The question itself was asked to Ron Paul, but it is a question that is being asked to every single American.

What if a guy in your local hospital was in that condition. Would you let them die, or would you try to help them?

And that is the point Ron Paul is making, and what is being ignored. We as a society are not going to let those people die, and I find this agenda to paint the American people as uncaring and selfish disgusting. No matter how much you want to take the actions of a few and stereotype it onto everyone, it is not the case.

It is a flat out lie that if not for government these people would die, and you should be ashamed of yourself for telling people that. You speak about “unity” and then you turn around and imply that we are selfish and uncaring? I’m officially offended by the entire notion.

funny that some of these people that “will not stand” for conservative “lunatics are completely fine with abortion.

Posted by: j | September 13, 2011, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
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What I’m “fine” with is a woman’s right to choose what SHE wants to do. If you want to kick down a woman’s door and force her to do what YOU want her to do….that’s your business. Your abortion argument for defending these right wing nutjobs is really weak, by the way.

REAL —– what is “this kind of thinking”?? — If you use common sense… you see the “approval” was for “personal responsibility”… not “death”!! —- Don’t you feel like a fool being taken to the cleaners by the liberal media??

PRO-LIFE? HA!!!! This sickens me!

The real question posed to Dr Paul was if a healthy 30 yr old refuses to purchase medical insurance then goes into a coma, is it the governments (taxpayers) responsibility to take care of him. GET IT STRAIGHT! Your propaganda and lies cannot stop the libertarian revolution that is coming.

“… bringing the total number of people living in the United States without health coverage to 50.9 million … ”

Let’s just take half of the 50.9 million uninsured, let them get sick. Tea Partiers, ready to kill 25 million Americans this year?

What’s REALLY hilarious about these Tea Baggers supposedly cheering for ‘personal responsibility’ is that they are adamantly 100% against it in real life. In real life, they oppose the Individual Mandate which REQUIRES people to do the responsible thing and have medical insurance. They scream “NO! You can’t make me have insurance!”. Someone asks, “But what if you get cancer?” Their reply? “Then I’ll get free health care just like all them illegals get”.

Have you listened to the entire question and to the response? Blitzer emphasized the man was healthy, had a great job, but chose not to buy any health insurance even though he could afford it. And the crowd was cheering when Ron Paul commented about freedom and responsibility. Two people at most said “Yeah” about letting him die. That’s disgusting yes, but a far cry from the “audience” cheering to let someone die.
This is why most Americans don’t trust the liberal media.

The Tea Parties revised “Pledge of Allegiance”..I pledge allegiance to my darn self….and all the messed up crap I believe in….and to the Republicans….and they”d better understand….we’re divisible, screw the nation, and who needs Liberty and Justice for all”

WWJD: What would Jesus de-fund?

Searambler | September 13, 2011, 3:17 pm —– You said “they oppose the Individual Mandate” —— uh, yeah… maybe because it is unconstitutional!! — DUH!!

Question to surfergrl: How do you distinquish from those who can afford it and those that can’t when they come into the ER with a gun shot wound or a bad head wound from an accident?

the number of uninsured people rose by about 900,000 from 2009 to 2010, bringing the total number of people living in the United States without health coverage to 50.9 million, or 16.3 percent of the population.

WOW another record for the Obama administration and cronies. Enabling people has that effect on folks

Thank you chrissie. All media, not just liberal media. Thay all fear Ron Paul because if elected their whole false house of cards crumbles and this country is given back to it citizens where it belongs.

Jon, you’re SO MISINFORMED. The doctors can (and DO) tell you, in advance, what the doctor’s charge will be for a surgery.

It’s the highway robbing insurance companies that will NOT tell you what they’ll reimburse. They’ll tell you they’ll reimburse what’s “reasonable and customary” but with no dollar amount included. You can give them a procedure code and the geographic location where the doctor is and they will still REFUSE REFUSE REFUSE to tell you what they’ll cover until AFTER the procedure has happened.

IT’S THE INSURANCE COMPANIES who have a “heads I win, tails you lose” racket going on. They want to make sure their customer is 100% healthy, they’ll charge him a fortune for premiums, they’ll charge him co-payments, deductibles and co-insurance for EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE and then REFUSE to provide what they’ll cover IN ADVANCE of his procedure (so he can wind up with them paying the doctor a very low rate and he having to pay a very high rate of co-insurance).

Wake up America. Insurance companies are the #1 lobbying group in Washington. They’re financially raping the doctors, the hospitals and – most importantly – their customers, yet they’ll claim losses every year while paying their CEO’s record-breaking bonuses every year in the range of 20M.

It’s sick!

@loyaopposition. Mandate automatically precludes any personal responsibility. Do you know the definition of personal responsibility. If your forced to do it, you hold no responsibility, youve ceeded that to the federal government.

There is a flaw in Dr. Paul’s reasoning. To say that being uninsured is a matter of “taking your own a risk” and “freedom” presumes the man had the money for insurance and chose to spend it on other things. Health insurance is unaffordable for millions of Americans (until 2014 that is).

Posted by: TW—We all have liberty, what we all don’t have is money and that is not a right and after taking care of myself and my family there is little left for the people who I don’t know or care about. I am sorry but the homeless and poor people I see are that way because of the choices they made, the choice to do drugs, not finish school, have kids you can’t afford, not save for a rainy day, or just be apathetic in the extreme. The government divides us, we are not Americans we are (Insert cultural Identity)-American, we are not Americans we are Rich Americans and Poor Americans, We are not Americans we are Democrats, Republicans, or Independents. Screw the nation, how does making everybody equally poor make the nation any better, how does taking from one person and giving to another make the country any better and it isn’t the same as commerce, you have a choice where you spend your money, no one takes it from you, how does giving food to someone who doesn’t see fit to even try and feed themselves, make the country better, how does socializing failure and reward make anything better, how does paying for the smokers and twinkie eaters healthcare make the country better.

First off, this article exaggerates the cheers from the “audience” when Ron Paul was asked if someone without insurance should be left to die. There were a handful, meaning about five or less, who cheered and shouted “Yea!”

And I’ll be honest, I think that services should be refused to anyone without insurance unless they have a job. If they have a job, garnish their wages to pay for their medical bills. People argue that it’s unconstitutional to make anyone pay for a service, but isn’t automobile insurane a requirement? I know it is in Virginia and figure it’s probably a requirement in most states. This way, if you cause an accident and you don’t have any insurance, the person not at fault is not left high-and-dry for someone else’s mistake. But that’s what happens with people who seek medical services and don’t have insurance–they go to the emergency room and leave the taxpayers footing their medical bills.

I’m young–I’m 24 years old, but I have been working since I was 14 and that was by choice. I got a work permit to start working at 14 and have been paying taxes and paying into Social Security (which probably won’t even exist once I am eligible to receive it) for 10 years now. I believe that those who have jobs and don’t have health insurance have an issue with their priorities. They either need to take a long hard look at where their priorities lie, and if they don’t see any issue, then laziness or carelessness is obviously a factor.

I worked my way through college, paid my own tuition, and have never had a problem finding a job and keeping a job. I have a family member who never went to college, but had developed skills welding and machining. He was laid off in 2009 because his job couldn’t find enough work and afford to keep all of their laborers. He was on unemployment for less than a month and was offered several positions because he was out looking for a job all day every day until he was only faced with the decision of which one he wanted more. After accepting his new job, his salary was increased by $10,400 annually.

I’m not far-right, and I’m not on the left side either. I can be considered a conservative, but I do believe that those who do not want to work and those who do not want to provide themselves choose that option. Maybe they’re lazy, maybe they have no ambition, maybe they were brought up by a family that was lazy or had no ambition themselves and inherited the trait. Maybe someone lost their job which they considered was a good job and think they are too good to work at Wal-Mart or Burger King so instead give up paying for health insurance and live off of the tax-payers’ money (aka unemployment) for a year or two. What I can tell you for sure, however, is that it should not be my responsibility to provide for someone else’s handouts nor for their medical services. I pay for my own and take responsibility for myself.

This is all about the chicken and the egg–the US economy is bad, and most Americans would have more money to put into the economy if insurance premiums and co-pays were lower. However, they can’t be lowered because medical costs are high due to the amount of people who do not pay for the medical services rendered. Why should my costs be higher when others get off scotch-free???

Yes, Searambler has it correct. I watched the debate, too. That is exactly what happened. I am an independent and a christian. I believe in “love thy neighbor”. It makes me angry when so called God-loving people are hypocritical like this. There is no compassion or common sense. I watch the Repub debates because I want to be informed. And right now, if any one of these people are elected president. We are in BIG trouble.

I’m lying on my death bed as I write this. Cough. Dont expect to make it through tomorrow. Cough.
Ran out of money. Cough. Doctor kicked me as he walked by. Cough. Said he needs the spce for a paying patient. Cough, cough.

Cnd Fox, who do you think currently pays the bills of the uninsured? Many hospitals have a charitable organization attached to pick up the bills of those who can not pay and do not have insurance. Many of the charitable organizations take donations from churches, the public, etc. I donate to the charitable organization of our local children’s hospital and our local acute care facility. Which ones do you donate to? Most of us on the right feel a deep obligation to charity that our counterparts on the left just don’t share. We donate more than 10 percent of our income to charity, volunteer for a number of good causes and get out there to work on the ground level to help our communities solve OUR problems. I understand that you probably get some sort of internal satisfaction by attacking your political opponents, but perhaps if those of you on the left shared our faith in our countrymen and joined us serving the poor, maybe the world would be a much nicer place, and conversations like this one would end with us both agreeing that of course charity should play a big part in helping the poor cover unforeseen medical expenses, while the government focuses its attentions on the bigger issues. :)) I hope you have a truly blessed day. It sounds like you need a few nice thoughts sent your way.

Insurance is unaffordable to many because they would rather spend their money on the non- necessities. Many people on food stamps and public assistance have better phones and T.V.’s than I do. It is a fact.

Try going to another country without insurance.

The fact TX has such a high percentage of uninsured is a plus to the tea party. TX is not “interfering with the free choice” to be uninsured.

Notbuyingit, you must not have read what I wrote. I never said my sister’s girls didn’t have coverage. She can’t afford to buy it for herself. Wow read it again please. We have the same type of thing in NC as well, but kids aren’t the only ones that need to be covered. Not all uninsured are deadbeats that just don’t want to buy it. I would dare to say most of the people that don’t have coverage simply can’t afford it one way or the other.

To ‘Common Sence’: First, if you’re going to uses the nick ‘Common Sence’ at least use spell check, it’s ‘Common Sense’.
At no time have the Dems argues against personal responsibility. However, the poor and yes many middle class simply can not afford the Health Insurance Premiums. And God forbid one wants to change jobs and has a ‘preexisting’ condition, most, if not all insurers won’t touch you resulting in a person being forced into an ‘Indentured Servant’ mentality simply because they may have asthma or Hi BP.
When a man says, ‘Let him die’ because he’s sick? Yes, that person deserves to be demonized.
What makes most folks mad is the Hypocrisy many of the “Republican’ Candidates. Ms Bachmann claims to be Christian but follows few, if any of the Christian values(you know, like when Jesus healed the sick or fed the starving masses. I don’t recall hearing him preach about Personal Responsibility.
Study after study after study, shows that the U.S pays MORE for Health Care(Dr. visits, Meds, etc) than any other industrial country while getting less.

They cheer for personal responsibility and then on the other hand cry like babies because they might get taxed a bit more if they refuse to actually choose personal responsibility and purchase that insurance, thus sticking the rest of us with their bills. They don’t make sense to me. If one person cheered it was too many. I do not care the reason, I personally would not walk over somebody dying just because I felt they took some gamble in life and failed to take the proper precautions. This is way too cold for me.

“Cnd Fox, who do you think currently pays the bills of the uninsured? Many hospitals have a charitable organization attached to pick up the bills of those who can not pay and do not have insurance. Many of the charitable organizations take donations from churches, the public, etc.”…………………. Mostly the federal and state government. Look it up.

It fits the republican ideology of feeding on grief. They like the idea of thinning the herd. It means that less people are taking up space on the ground and the air they breathe. Now the ignorant need to run into voting booths and reward them. Your nothing more than a herd of cattle to be exploited by them.

How can a church pay millions of dollars in medical care? Suppose a person is an atheist? This guy is a lunatic, now he has his son involved. Tell you what Ron Paul and Rand Paul, why don’t you two forgo your health benefits and pensions you so generously voted yourselves and live like the rest of us? These people have no souls whatsoever, truly evil. Is it any wonder he is behind Campaign for Liberty? That he and his son’s copywriter’s and chief of staff used to be VP of The national Right to Work Committee and their lobbyists?

The poor have Medicaid for their medical care…. senior citizens have Medicare… the rich have their own personal wealth… so what those that choose a flat-screen TV over health insurance??? — We take care of those that need it… who will stand up for personal repsonsibility for those who can take care of themselves… but don’t??? —- Obviously not the progressives…. look… Obama is planning another TAX and SPEND “spread the wealth” plan even as I write!! — So sad!!!

It is incredibly disturbing to witness what America has become. I heard Ron Paul ask recently why people in Florida should have to help pay for the damage Hurricane Irene did in Vermont. The answer is quite simple: because we are ALL Americans. It is the moral thing to do – not to mention the Christian thing to do. I do not subscribe to the Christian religion, but so many of the Tea Party claim to be devout Christians. Ignorance, selfishness, and anger run deep in that group. How sad to witness the decline of this great nation.

what we don’t want…. We don’t want uninsured wasting money and time at ERs like they do now. We don’t want to rely on churches and charities which are awesome but not guaranteed and in the end amount to taxing nice people more than not-nice people and it’s not obvious to a sick person without a church to know where to go. I personally prefer to not just let them stay sick or die but I know others feel otherwise. We can’t have perfection, but anything that addresses these issues is welcome.

The “church” is no answer for anything. In fact, religion is one of the major problems in this world.

And T Baggers wonder why everyone has such a low opinion about them!

@ARRYANDDAN. What you miss is that fFlorida can choose to help. We are all Americans. Right?

“Requiring ” insurance has another problem for some. . My wife has several pre-existing conditions, and the monthly cost of coverage from the state “pool” for “high risk” insurees would cost more than a house + car payment combined…and that was 5-6 yrs ago. If it becomes law that everyone has coverage, it would still be cheaper for her to pay a fine than to get coverage under the present system.

“Do people actually disagree with the idea that the first step for a society like us to evolve would be to provide health care to all, regardless of discriminatory factors?”

Yes. The ‘Religious Right’ disagrees with this philosophy. Then again, many of them don’t believe in evolution of ANY kind………

To copyright for him, not buy his vote on any issue. Check the record. Show me one of your “politicians whose vote is not for sale.

““Requiring ” insurance has another problem for some. . My wife has several pre-existing conditions, and the monthly cost of coverage from the state “pool” for “high risk” insurees would cost more than a house + car payment combined…and that was 5-6 yrs ago. If it becomes law that everyone has coverage, it would still be cheaper for her to pay a fine than to get coverage under the present system.

Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2011, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm”…………………… This changed with Obama’s HCR. It is now at affordable prices thru the states. However, the trick is you have to have been without it for six months to qualify. Some people are taking the chance and dropping theirs for 6 months to do it.

Godless Evil That s all I have to say>

personal responsibility? yeah, easy to say but how about the people who want to work but cant find jobs? and if they are lucky enough to have a job, health insurance, along with all the other cost of living expenses, is so expensive how can the average low/middle class family survive anymore? people in those situations have to choose between feeding their families or healthcare? albeit tough, whats the obvious choice? that’s responsibility. these politicians are so full of them selves and because they don’t NEED certain things, its so easy for them to say if individuals w/o coverage need help they should get it from anywhere else other than the federal government. if the health care system and pharmaceutical companies and the politicians weren’t so corrupt, and the US had a better managed, more streamlined healthcare system, maybe the healthcare system would work for the low/middle classes and not just rich politicians who are just soooo responsible. why don’t these candidates talk about solutions instead of the blame game.

We are now a country of ‘ME’. If it helps ME, I want it otherwise everyone else can go to heck.

Congressmen retire with full health insurance for life. I think it’s time they lose this benefit

HELLO!!! ———- The poor have Medicaid for their medical care…. senior citizens have Medicare… the rich have their own personal wealth… So here we have a fabricated 30 year old who “doesn’t want to spend $300 a month” on health insurance……. yeah…. probably had to buy that flat-screen TV instead… and that is “responsible” HOW???? —– And I love to see the progressives frothing at the mouth and tripping all over themselves with “stereotypes” of conservatives…. really shows intelligence!!!

I can only imagine what the world would be like today if Jesus had felt the same way. How sad that anyone would think it is okay to let someone die who has no medical coverage. A person who has become a Christian WOULD NOT feel this way as that goes against all of the teachings from the bible. Jesus surrounded himself with the poorest and the sickest people – not the wealthy and affluent. I am a long time Democrat and I have advised my grown kids that should I ever decide to become a Republican – that will be their clue that my mind is gone and I need to put in a nursing home. LOL

Hegel321 Are you a politician? You still havent answered the question. Typical of both parties. Later, have a conference call.

How sad is our country, now!

Yes, take away Congress’s lifetime insurance benefit–they are undeserving. But wow, just let the church take care of it? Seriously?! As a former church trustee (who leans left, BTW) the church does what it can to help people but there is only so much money to go around. I’ve seen congregations come together and help those in need to the extent that they can, but it is also true there are some people who just want to be taken care of by others, and they come time and time again looking for a hand-out. Others suffer a one-time catastrophe and the community does come pouring out–I’m grateful for the latter as a cousin of mine was crushed in the Indiana State Fair accident and I can not say enough good about how people stepped up and first saved her life at the site of the accident, and how the gifts have poured in (insurance doesn’t pay everything). She was in a coma, too. Fortunately with insurance. Tea Baggers would have said pull the plug, disgraceful! BTW, she is on the road to recovery but it will be a long haul.

Lonewolf…. OMG are you saying tax breaks are a form of help? WTH does that mean? Hello rich people, we normally hijack a lot of your money but now we’ll hijack a little less of your money. You’re welcome. You do know that rich people pay a higher percentage of their money in taxes don’t you? A poor person pays 0-10% of their money in taxes. Middle class pays somewhere around 20-30% and rich people pay 50% or more. So them saying, ok we’ll only take 40% now doesn’t really amount to ‘help”.

How in the hell is a guy in a coma supposed to make decision? Ron Paul and his supporters are idiots!

The Tea party does not want to let people die! they just want to get the government out of the middle of the health care. The Tea Party and the community will step up to care for those who need it!!

Ron Paul is right. How sad that we forget our history so easily. It wasn’t that long ago that many hospitals were a part of and run by the churches. Many of them still have the names, like “Methodist Hospital”, Saint John’s, etc. Back then if you couldn’t afford to pay, the church/hospital would give you treatment as a charity case and you would owe nothing. Now if you don’t have insurance and can’t afford treatment, they give you the bare minimum required by law and send you home to die with a huge stack of bills you can’t pay.

Yes, the answer must be to take money away from Joe Sixpack so he can’t afford to help his family out with medical bills.

What a joke. Typical ABC News garbage being shoveled into our heads. I’d certainly rather have Maxine Waters decide whether I live or die than my own family! I’m sure she’d be fair with me.

First of all, anyone thinking that there are really people out there who CAN afford medical insurance and do not get it are themselves delusional or trying to sell everyone else a load of B.S. Second, if those cheers were from people who are NOT followers of Ron Paul and were really “plants,” where were the BOOS following those cheering? Where was a denouncement by Paul of those cheers, as McCain did for the idjit that uttered “he’s a Muslim” about President Obama? Just admit it, the GOP has been hijacked by a bunch of soulless, heartless, conscience-less, UN-Americans!

Since I haven’t seen the actual clip and I am just using the article as reference I will limit my comments about the tea party. In general they have been too extreme for my tastes. Should we have the right to make choices? absolutely, that’s what democracy is about. But what everyone is not getting here is that medical insurance is not always the viable option you think it is. There is coverage for the very poor, and those with upper range incomes. But there are those of us that fall right in between…we can’t get the medicaid or government coverage, and the private coverage is too expensive to merit having. The average monthly payment for decent coverage is between 400-600/mo with huge deductibles and minimal coverage, depending where you live. Don’t assume we don’t want coverage…maybe we just can’t afford it.

If congressman Ron Paul thinks that we should go to church for healthcare, I say that he and the other right-wing looneys in congress should be the FIRST to try it. Give up your tax payer funded healthcare and use the church instead…lets see how that works.

I cannot believe what I just read here. Here I am studying my backside off so I can be a nurse and help everyone, and you have these nutjobs saying that it is ok to let people die who have no health insurance, What???? I just cannot understand how anyone would cheer and want that! These people are pathetic!!! These people are not christians. I don’t even think that they are human to be honest!

Actually, I’d cheer letting the 40% that keep popping up on polls that support Obama “just die”. Wait, that’s probably the majority of fans of the All Barack Channel.

Sounds like the Tea Party is where Palin got her idea about “death panels”.

I sincerely hope that the rest of America is paying very close attention to the utter hatefulness of these people.

I think Ron Paul was only referring to liberals.

This is disgusting, even for the Tea Party. I would say they should be ashamed, but they obviously have no shame.

Health insurance is unlike any other type of insurance. Health care is something a civilized society cannot deny an individual, but yet that society should not have to bear the cost for those who haven’t secured it. That’s the very reason why I’m very comfortable with universal health care and mandating that individuals carry health insurance or face a penalty.

It is a fine mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. I know three families with different circumstances and different ‘coping mechanisms: the first, an illegal family in which the mother cleans houses for a living. She charges $70 an hour and works an average of seven hours, six days a week. She pays no taxes and when the family needs medical care, they go to ER and leave without paying a dime. The second family is in the process of having their fourth child. Neither parent has or wants a job and the birth will be completely covered by a state program. Will not cost them a single cent. Third family has insurance but with a $5,000 deductible.They have arranged for a payment plan with the hospital and doctor for delivery of their baby – it will take them over three years of monthly payments to extinguish the bill. And so, it is the single, responsible, working family who, ultimately, pays for the other, dishonest freeloaders. The President’s health plan, as it stands, will only increase the burden on these ‘responsible’ taxpayers until, eventually, the goose, laying the golden egg, will be cooked.
Over the years, we have extended so many services to the “poor” that many people, poor or not, believe that you are an idiot if you do not take full advantage of the system. Being a welfare recipient has become a career position for a large segment of our population. And it robs them of their self-respect, their ambition, their pride and their honor.
The only solution that I can imagine would be to demand a form of ‘payback;’ not in dollars and cents but something on the order of simply showing-up at a ‘hiring hall’ or community center for, say, three days a week until the bill is paid. Believe me, there are many people who would prefer a real job before they would tolerate that type of obligation.

What a terribly MISLEADING headline!!!!

ABC should be ashamed to feed the left wing nuts such a lie.

j.b.

I have to admit, I was kinda surprised and taken back at the audience’s response, but it was similar to their response to Brian Williams commen,t about the death sentence in Texas, at the first debate. I also recall remarks from some of my wife’s relatives, republicans, yes, tea party ???. They are early 40′s, both work, have 2 children in grade school. They have no medical ins. themselves, but purchased it for their children. When Obamacare went thru, they were apalled that the gov’t would make them buy medical ins, and stated this will bankrupt us !

Just like the drive by media, i’m sure they interviewed everyone to make sure they were part of the TEA Party.

Every debate, we get more of a glimpse of the true tea party. What a sick bunch of individuals and these are the people the republicans are trying to seek support from.

I can’t get over what a sick bunch of people the Republicans have become. It started with racism and has just gone downhill from there. All I can say is that they probobly have pretty good health care. I hope they get a chance to lose it then see what it’s really like.

…”What a terribly MISLEADING headline!!!!”…posted by Jack Bates 4:51 PM….No it absolutely was not misleading. That is EXACTLY what happened last night. Review the tape!

The Tea Party and the GOP candidates pandering to them are barbaric. This proves it cheering for allowing someone to die is heartless. So, OK they want to completely do away with Pres. Obama’s Health care law…And what..Let it up to Major insurance companies…We were there and they turned down people who were sick and denied care to current subscribers who got really sick…FREQUENTLY…The current Health care law is changing that. But, Tea Party backers, cheer at letting someone die. WOW…The measure of a great country is how it treats it’s needy..I pray you guys go away

“Actually, I’d cheer letting the 40% that keep popping up on polls that support Obama “just die”. Wait, that’s probably the majority of fans of the All Barack Channel.” _______________ As much as I dislike the Tea Bagger ideology, I would not wish death on ANYONE. Your statement is why none of the Baggers will ever be President. I believe that you are truly representative of the Bagger movement. Heartless, soulless, and conscious-less terrorists. Yes, Terrorists! Anyone wishing death on Americans because of their beliefs, political party, religion, etc., is a freaking Terrorist, no different than the Taliban!

Where are the moderate republicans. I can’t beleive they put up with this tea party BS. As a democrat I disagrre politically with my republican friends, but they are mostly good hearted , decent people. They are letting a small group of radical right wing extremist take over the party of Lincoln who asked us to listen to the “better angels of our nature”

The good news is that DOCTOR Paul and his son, another DOCTOR, left medicine!! So, TeaBaggers, you want ‘personal responsibility’. So, again, answer Wolf Blitzer’s question which doesnt change even if you believe in ‘personal responsibility’. Previously healthy uninsured 30 year old gets in car accident, shows up in ER. Who among you lets him or her die without care because they dont have insurance? Doctors take an oath to care for this person. The Law inisists we take care of this person. AND the Bible insists we care for this person. Now what???

secondlook said “Mostly the federal and state government” Wrong. Neither the Medicare nor Medicaid cover costs. It is people paying cash and the more generous insurance companies who are pickup up the tab.

Posted by: wryview | September 13, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm ……………………………….. “A 2003 study in Health Affairs estimated that uninsured people in the U.S. received approximately $35 billion in uncompensated care in 2001. The study noted that this amount per capita was half what the average insured person received. The study found that various levels of government finance most uncompensated care, spending about $30.6 billion on payments and programs to serve the uninsured and covering as much as 80–85% of uncompensated care costs through grants and other direct payments, tax appropriations, and Medicare and Medicaid payment add-ons. Most of this money comes from the federal government, followed by state and local tax appropriations for hospitals.” …………………………. Generous insurance companies? You have GOT to be kidding me.

ABC: How is it that someone who has the hubris to call himself “REAL AMERICAN” gets so many posts? I guess his posting name means that he thinks anyone who disagrees with him is not a “REAL AMERICAN”. Whoever he is, he must be an atheist, because no religion that I am aware of, teaches the kind of lesson that he espouses. What a sad, bitter individual. What a terrible upbringing and life he must have led to be filled with so much hate, and no compassion. It won’t matter what happens to him when he dies, because he’s already condemned himself to live in Hell while on this earth. I only hope that he has no children, whom he would fill with the same vitriolic hate. But ABC, why did you give this guy so much space? He spewed the exact same hatred over and over again. Whoever vetts this message board for ABC ought to be reassigned or fired.

That decision should be made by an Obamacare death panel.

ABC didn’t make the story, the debate and Tea-Party audience did. So the Tea-Baggers would rather see the poor and sick of this country die off, WHAT’S NEW ABOUT THAT ??

The family values/anti-abortion party. Once you’re out of the womb though
you are on your own.

The fact that ABC would broadcast a “Article” this biased and so poorly interptreted leads me to believe that the Liberal Democrat bias is alive and well at your network. Ron Paul is a Libertarian and has the right to run for President as he often does. I live in Texas and I guarantee he does not represent my congressional district. I watched the entire debate and quite frankly wonder if your writer did. As Ron said, nobody ever gets turned away. All hospitals treat indigents for free and write off the costs, which is why you are charged $8.00 for aspirin. Someone working for the Obama Administration must have written this article because it is wishful thinking.

Well, doesn’t that beat all?!? Leave it to Ron Paul and the Christian tea party to advocate death over medicine. Some of the people in this country who are hiding behind religion and advocating death over medicine is something only a Satanist would say. Truly we need to eradicate this blemish on our society and that of humanity. These people are as equally tyrannical as are the Taliban and the Al Qaeda: And, perhaps far more dangerous to all of mankind.

@SecondLook and CND FOX re: Irregardless. I even found it Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (copyright 1985), “Blend of irrespective and regardless.” Baggers are too funny. They don’t even use simple research like a freaking dictionary and then get on these blogs and display their ignorance. Same tactic they use to spread their lies and ignorant ideology. No basis whatsoever for their beliefs other than hatred of anyone not like them.

What do all of you brainless people think happens with uninsured people NOW? Think no critically ill person has never needed medical care before last night’s debate?Any hospital that receives any federal funds at all, are required….and have been since 1986….to not turn ANYONE away that needs medical care.
The doddering old fool Paul doesn’t represent ANY of the other Republicans.
Paul is a Libertarian…not a Republican….the applause he receives is from the tiny fringe that think Gvt shouldn’t do anything for anyone…including defending our safety.

ONCE AGAIN….WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITH UNINSURED PEOPLE NEEDING MEDICAL CARE NOW? THEY GET TREATMENT! AT EVERY HOSPITAL. that is not a privately owned hospital….which there might be a dozen at most of them…very small, very limited beds.
Use your brains people…..sick people aren’t new

Hello America, whats the difference between letting the uninsured die from no coverage, or letting the insured holders die from the lack of being able to pay the High Deductibles do to Obamacare? one way or the other no one will be covered, at least in the old system someone was covered. namely me. sincerely Fezzy Bear

Perry is a puppet for Merck.

Oh yes, all the health care discussion and the congress still has healthcare until they die. While the american people have to fight tooth and nail to get healthcare benefits at a reasonable price.

Who says that Obamacare comes with high deductibles? That is only the insurance companies trying to maintain their profit margins under the change of healthcare for all/

What is wrong with every citizen being entitled to heathcare?? If the government supports heath care for congress, why not support the American people??

What is really scarey is the number of people that don’t understand how govt. works and continue to confuse or compare govt. to private industry. Govt. does not have a single goal of profit like the private sector; it must serve many goals that often compete. The Postal Service cannnot cherry pick to whom it delivers mail or charge an exorbant fee for such (unlike Fedex and UPS). Medicare is not a miserable failure if service is the criterion by which it is judged. If you expect it to make a profit then it is failure. Ask yourself if you are really happy with your private insurance company. Is it easy to be reimbursed for a procedure or to even get one approved ahead of time? My experience is that private insurance is a major pain to deal with and my primary care doctor agrees. And do you know why? It is in the interest of the company to frustrate insurees making claims or to dispute them because it is better for their bottom line to not pay than to pay. And all the talk during the health care debate last year about the evils of rationing in a govt. run system. That’s exactly what private insurance companies do every day. Ask yourself why should there be a profit motive in health insurance at all? Why should execs make those large salaries? It couldn’t be because they have held costs down.

More “it’s all about me, me, me” from the self-centered, hypocritical Tea Party members

“I think it was a liberal nut-job plant heckling. Can anyone prove differently?” __________ Can you prove it WAS a liberal nut-job plant? Ask yourself why didn’t Paul say anything to chastise the hecklerS? Why didn’t some in the audience boo at the people cheering? Why didn’t Ron Paul state that he was NOT saying we should let people die. Stating the fact that no hospital can turn people away is not the same as saying he approves of the practice.

Just because somebody yells the sheep on here think it was somebody that was part of the party.

First off, the title of the article is so misleading it’s offensive. The fact that they were cheering is because it’s not the governments job to tell us who to give our hard earned money to. They were NOT cheering because someone is dying. I wonder when the Dems will finally pick up on our “hints”?? I have no problem helping people in need and I give to charities. However, I don’t appreciate the gov’t telling me that I HAVE to pay for someone else’s insurance when I can barely afford to take care of my own family due to their careless spending and wasteful programs.

As an independent voter, I wouldn’t vote for any of the Republican clowns. I am sick of the Tea Party people holding America Hostage. It’s their way or the highway and they have the nerve to say that about the President. Too funny for words.

Come on ABC, you know what the point was right? This is a misleading headline!

PRO-LIFE = no health insurance so your child dies anyway. Hypocracy at it’s worst!

Most of the Tea Party people I know have some form of Government Health Insurance. I had one lady go on and on about how terrible the Obama healt care paln is and how the government has no business in the health care field. Her husband who was in the hospital bed nest to my husband was covered by the Vererans Health Care plan and they had no deductibles. Their health care was paid for 100% by the Government.

Now, I don’t begrudge our Veteran their health care benefits. Bur, REALLY?

This Republican is totally disgusted with “ideas” like those spouted and cheered by a bunch of ignorant Neanderthals, the worst of whom is Bachmann, who just loves spreading lies and half-truths to obscure reality with her bizarre hallucinations. That this woman got elected to Congress by the good people of Minnesota leaves me speechless.

Liberals, pay attention- learn about anti socials, borderlines, narcissists, drug addicts. These people do what they want and fully expect tax payers to “help” them. They get section 8 FOREVER and thier kids inherit the section 8-seriously.
Conservatives, crime has been cut in half from 1974 when abotion became legal. Have contreception in high schools and abortion goes down. Teen agers are stupid- end of story- try to help them not get pregnant while stupid. I do not want to take any womens rights away as all countries without them are sh** holes and i dont wont more crime in 15 years after its illegal.
Problem solve people- and learn about what humans motives are and give some consiquences but try not to be so harsh about it.
I had a women the other day who had medicare, wants medication, is anti social with five children she neve cared for as she was in jail on and off for 25 years. She did get her section 9 and welfare and PT custody. Seriously- meds can’t help her, nothing can, why the section 8?
Judge people on thier behaviors. She costs us millions in DCFS, section 8, medicare, jail, therapy, meds, birthing, welfare, food stamps-personality disorders cost us all billions.

churches could never foot the bill for the uninsured. and if in some fantasy world they could right now, the number of uninsured is growing and can only be remedied by a change in the health care system. a change that is happening now under the current presidency. i’m not ready to group all tea party supporters with all republicans. i’m hoping only tea party is this against health care reform since it is integral to the welfare of this country.

I would cheer for the death of a few media outlets that distort the facts to suit their own purposes. They were cheering personal responsibility, shame on you ABC news, and all your cohorts in the media that have forgotten how to report facts truthfully and honestly.

So, does Doctor Paul really believe the only way a person ends up in a coma is as a result of personal choices they made or by acting irresponsibly? Does he think that it really is a choice whether or not to purchase health insurance for everybody in this country, that there aren’t plenty of people who are deprived of the opportunity to purchase, even if they want to and think it is the “responsible thing to do” by either lack of sufficient funds or pre-existing conditions that price the insurance out of their reach? He can acknowledge that the hospital he used to work at never turned anybody away for lack of ability to pay for their healthcare, yet he’d have the government advocate that very thing, thus missing the important moral imperative his hospital was an exemplar of.

I don’t know why Buffett, Gates, Soros, et al, all the multi-billionaires who support Obama and his ilk don’t donate all their billions–keeping one billion each for themselves (seems like enough)—and form a foundation to care for the uninsured. Think of the good they could do and still live like kings. Then, they wouldn’t have to feel guilty and stomp for Obama’s tax the rich people agenda. They could organize panels to decide what would be covered and what would not. They could help their nation and help their fellow man. A big win all around. Too simple???

Churches?? Really??? What a completely disingenuous statement to say that churches could even handle that kind of financial responsibility! All non-profits are stretched to the limit right now *without* caring for the uninsured.

Also disingenuous to simplify the argument down to “people should take responsibility for themselves”. There are OFTEN circumstances and situations beyond people’s control that can leave them without health insurance.

Is this the kind of country we want to become, a country that doesn’t take care of it’s own? I want to know how many of those people “cheering” in the audience donate enough to their church to actually make this a feasible argument – otherwise, they are COMPLETE HYPOCRITES.

ron paul- the new Dr.Death Kivorkian

libertarians- the pirates of the atlantic-pacific out to steal our heritage, given to us with the blood of our founding fathers, veterans of all our foreign wars, the victory of the Constitution and Bill of Rights over the slavery,bigotry,racism and murders of the Confederacy and the Klan, the defeat of fascism and nazism and communism by leaders like Truman,JFK and FDR.

the libertarians are the masked men of the dark forest, where lives the demons that haunt the outsiders of our society who are incapable of having feelings that connect them to humanity.

they only exist as hollow and empty creatures who live for themselves and cheer the deaths of anyone they judge unworthy of being alive in the world they inhabit and seek to dominate,control and own. damn them all.

Do not confuse the tea party with Ron Paul supporters. Ron Paul is a nut and I’m sure that those idiots that are being used to paint the tea party in a bad light, are his supporters. It is libel for this reporter to make the statements that he has made. You should all be ashamed to jumpt at a chance to use a couple of idiots to slander an entire group of people. I think that is called being bigoted. I’m a member of the tea party and a christian and I don’t know anyone that believes that anyone should be allowed to “just die”. Life is a precious gift from God. I guess some of you have no problem wiping out that gift while it is unprotected in the womb but cry foul when you attitude is voiced by some other nuts in the way it was. You are either very willfully ignorant of what the tea party stands for or you are just stupid – you can’t fix stupid.

I for the life of me do not understand how a republican (or teabagger, pick you poison) can sit here and say the solution to health care is NO health care. Or trust the health insurance companies, because really, REALLY they have your best interests at heart. HA

The USA is in the embarrasing position of being behind many other countries in how we resolve the health care dilemna. Our politicians have no ideas because the lobbiests pay them to not think at all…

It is either socialized medicine or NONE at all, because the republican party has no thoughts on the matter.

Nothing conservatives say is shocking to me anymore. I live in the south and hear stuff like that ALL THE TIME. Then they talk about how God is the answer and will punish the liberals. It makes the movie “Idiocracy” seem like a portentous horror movie instead of a comedy.

Let’s hear it from the “fry em and let em die crowd”. The best of America. NOT!!!!

WOW – shame on ABC for some extreme yellow journalism. The article title is horrendously misleading. The audience cheered a man in a coma having the right to die by choice. Does anyone read these articles before writing the titles?

Conservative pinheads…no need to say anything else.

This batch o’dates is a goober brigade.

This kind of mindset should not be surprising. Hatred has become the norm in our culture.

I hope who ever cheered has a family member with no insurance go through a horrible illness and let them died due to no insurance! Ron Paul is that your Hippocratic oath? Do harm to those who have no insurance? Ron Paul has been in politic for many years and he gets his health insurance and all his entitlements paid for. Thats why Congress is so corrupt! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PAY for them and a lot of Working American people get nothing! I am ashamed of Congress and their needs. They say what they think we want to hear and then get voted in and only care about themselves and their entitlements. Then they might do one good thing and then they work the rest of the time trying to get re elected! Need to cut Congress and we will never see that because Government is greedy.

ABC is owned and operated by the same shills that bring you wars for corporate gain. The cheers were for PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Stop looking for handouts!

Churches cannot help with people in need. They are too busy spending all of their money on building new buildings for their congregations.

I am not a ‘Tea bagger, nor am i a proponent of Ron Paul’s…however, I strongly agree with this viewpoint!! As a person in the US with AIDS and Insurance, I know first-hand about cost. Just one prescription for my treatment is $4000 per month!! I take 7 pills each and every morning and 4 more in the evening!! ,without my insurance I would most certainly be in a very bad way!! I am unable to work, and dealing with a very long recovery period!! The doctor appointments are endless, I am currently up to 4 doctors with more being added on an almost weekly basis!! Without family by my side and insurance footing the majority of my bills…what am i to do?? I am in danger of losing my insurance…since I cannot work my average weekly hours is falling. Once the average falls below a certain level (set by my employer and the insurance company) my insurance will cease!! What is a person to do then?? My illness is not going to go away on its own!! Medical costs are sky high and without income I cannot pay for them!! There are programs in my state for which I have applied, and in due time expect to be approved…however, that waiting period can be long…who covers the in-between?? Me?? How?? Government?? Yea, right!! That is who I am waiting on approval from…get sick in America and you become a dollar sign!! I think going to the churches is a viable, and reasonable solution…it is a start!! We have to start somewhere people…the debate in Washington is simply ridiculous…I, for one, and quite uneasy about what they can accomplish anymore!! They do nothing but wrangle with each other’s party…its not about what the people want anymore…its about big business, politics, religion, and who has the money!! Poor people in this country are the true teabaggers…I hate the fact that this group of right-wing idiots took the name first…what we need is a real tea party raid, just like the original in Boston so many years ago!! Dont agree with a new tax?? Do something about it…WE have to be the ones to let THEM know we are done with the BS!!! Votes just dont do it anymore!!! Obama is doing the best he can with what he was dealt…we are so quick to forget the shape the country was in after the Bush years!! He inherited a friggin mess!!! And with the current infighting in Congress…the man dont stand a chance!!! They will continue to dog him the same way they did Bill Clinton!!! My question is what if Hillary had won instead?? I believe things would be a great deal different!! This country can handle a woman President, I think we are ready!!

Once again, misleading headline by abc. It’s one big payoff to insurance companies, making sure every person has health care ins. The first poster makes sense. My adult kid went to the ER (no health ins/in college) for thrush and got billed over $700. The costs are out of control. Insurance reform and flat rates would have been the first step, IMO, to getting healthcare straight.

Churches founded most health care centers.
Hospitals were for the most part, were created and run by religious organizations early on, based on charity. Saint Mary’s, Mercy, Saint Francis Hospital, Presbyterian, Jewish etc.
They were tax exempt. And a great contributors to the general welfare of the citizens.
Universities, drug companies, insurance corps, took over, got their tentacles in there, and enjoy the benefits preying on the sick. Now we have medical centers and HMO’s run for profit.
And most pay zero taxes. Insurance is the scam. Get back to a stable currency; there will be no need for them.

Sidney said “Churches cannot help with people in need. They are too busy spending all of their money on building new buildings for their congregations.” That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever seen for stereotyping.

The hypothetical case was an “uninsured 30-year-old working man in coma” who, in Ron Paul’s opinion, should “whatever he wants to do and assume responsibility for himself.” A comatose patient is not in a position to “want to do” anything.

This solidifies my stance to never vote for a republican for President. These tea people care nothing for this country their only objective is to replace Obama and they could careless what crazy loon they vote in to take his position.

I heard the Cheer too, only in America will they put a price tag on you. I bet the people that Cheered had very good insurance, but what if they lost it? or lost their Job? America is fast becoming one of the worst places to live in the western world, and its the people of america who are at fault, you deserve everything you get. 15 % poverty rate, look at for that to go up.

Amy Bingham’s article, being a exaggeration from headline to the last period – helps conservatives prove that ABC is not a “news” source.
In two years, they will use this article as part of a growing body of evidence to petition the FCC to reclassify ABC, CBS, NBC as entertainment – not news. ABC will lose their charter for this.

Progressives have no sense of humor or brains. That dumb question presupposed that without treatment the man would die. Most of these types of “users” are in for the sniffles at the ER. Most of them could pay for it if they wanted to, at a regular doctors office visit.

Last week I went to fill a prescription, I have really good prescription coverage paying only 4 dollars for generics, so the cost of drugs has not been something I have been worrying about. (my major medical sucks though –80/20 with a 2000. deductable ) Well I filled a antibiotic and a migraine medicine.They forgot to run my insurance. My bill was over three hundred dollars for six generic pills and 75 dollars for weeks antibiotic. they reran 8 dollars-This is silly that the cost is that high. We have let the price skyrocket out of control. I am healthy and the only reason I have insurance at all is my work covers most of the cost for insurance, it seems foolish not to spend two hundred a month for myself and my kids even though I really cant afford it. But I know if I lost my job or had to go on FMLA I would lose my insurance at the cost of almost 800 a month. and at my last job I could not afford the insurance as the full cost was on me I just got the tax benefit from taking out of my paycheck, so the kids were on medicaid and I took the gamble. Sorry but when you have to decide between eating and housing or insurance, eating and housing wins. I took a small paycut to get insurance,(preschool teacher to mental health assistant) but its what I had to do

Don’t you love those heartless tea party GOP. I beat those who cheered will be first in line to demand government feeding them when they are old.

“Congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?” to which a small number of audience members shouted “Yeah!” … Unless of course it’s THEMSELVES … then well – cry how “unfair” that is – and “blame the libs” … Typical useless tea party.

I am a moderate, educated independent who thinks that this whole medical mess can never be run by the Federal Government nor should it be. But Mr. Obama thinks that he can cram it down our throats and make us like it. So far so good. But we are in for one heck of a fight on Health Care. We can’t just let people did with no help. I know that many slip through the cracks in the system but we just have to work to close those cracks and keep on working to a better end.

so why do you need my website?

The Tea Party polled at the BOTTOM of a recent survey about organized groups in America. They are total nihilistic buffoons. It’s good that the average American gets to see what they are really all about. I wish the Beltway Press didn’t have such a love affair with them, but I guess they agree with them. Other nations with decent government supplied health care are doing it at half the cost of America. Our system is about making profits, not health people.

Ron Paul is an intelligent person, and yet not carved out to be a sympathetic representative of the people. Forget what the crowd of people said or did not say. The important question is why did Ron Paul remain indifferent to the question asked. He started with a “No” (which is an acceptable and a reasonable answer, were it not qualified by a immoral justification) that the sick can do whatever he wants. This clearly means that Ron Paul wants no part in knowing if someone needing medical care lives or dies. That is a disgusting immoral answer. So every patient who enters emergency care unit could live or die based on his/ her ability to pay? Now give me an answer to further justify such a stupid criteria: Which civilized nation has a policy where it (the country) wants to be indifferent whether a person lives or dies if he/ she cannot afford to pay for health-care. So if you were to avoid such a simple question and tell me “talk about American policies, and not talk what other nations would do in similar case”, then like any good attorney I have another question up my magical sleeve. The question is:, say, Ron Paul goes for an appointed interview for a lucrative and highly compensated position of Administrative and Medical Director of a Health Care Hospital company (which is hypothetically located in the heart-land of America, and is confident that he has the necessary skills and experience to prospectively bag that position), if the panel of interviewers were to ask the same question… that moderator Wolf Blitzer asked, he (Ron Paul) would have un-successfully convinced the interviewers of his capacity to fill that position or commit to the task of Director.
Same negative attitude is also shown by Romney, who in the past did the right thing and acted in the best interests of his constituents in enacting and passing the law of Health Care in the State of MA, now Romney is playing a different flute because he may not be able to convince the Republicans, the conservatives, the Tea Party voters and the vested lobbyists that do not want Health Care Reform in the best interests of nations health. Romney’s answer was other States can decide what they want to do; which is clearly not an answer for the nations health if he desires to represent himself as the future electoral-nominee-candidate for the President of the US.

Taking personal responsibility is wonderful. However, my insurance agent told me that 30% of people who apply for private health insurance are denied. These are people who choose to be responsible for themselves and choose to pay for health insurance, yet cannot do so because the insurance companies who control access to our health care choose not to include them. Further, the AMA states that of the people who declare bankruptcy due to the burden of medical bills, 75% HAD INSURANCE. How is that a reward for taking personal responsibility?

I will like to know more about Tea Party Debate Audience Cheered Idea of Letting Uninsured Patients Die.