Oct 18, 2011 1:09pm

Obama: Occupy Wall Street ‘Not That Different’ From Tea Party Protests



President Obama, who has become a target of the Occupy Wall Street protests sweeping the country, today embraced the economic frustration voiced on the streets and said in an exclusive interview with ABC News that his vision for the U.S. economic system is best suited to resolve protesters’ concerns.

“I understand the frustrations being expressed in those protests,” Obama told ABC News senior White House correspondent Jake Tapper in the interview to air this evening on ABC News “Nightline” from Jamestown, N.C.

“In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party.  Both on the left and the right, I think people feel separated from their government. They feel that their institutions aren’t looking out for them,” he said.

The full Tapper interview with Obama will air tonight on “Nightline” at 11:35 ET. 

Obama said the most important thing he can do as president is express solidarity with the protesters and redouble his commitment to achieving what he described as a more egalitarian society.

“The most important thing we can do right now is those of us in leadership letting people know that we understand their struggles and we are on their side, and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama said. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.”

Obama alluded to his American Jobs Act, which would be funded in part by raising taxes on wealthier Americans and some corporations in order to make them pay “their fair share.”

“We’re at a critical moment in this country where if we can regain some of the values that helped build this country that people, I think, long for, when they feel that everybody gets a fair shake but we’re also asking a fair share from everybody, if we can go back to that then I think a lot of that anger, that frustration dissipates,” he said.

Obama acknowledged that widespread popular frustration is directed at him because of the administration’s failure to jumpstart job creation and economic growth.  But he shrugged off the suggestion that he could have done more from the start, including focusing less on health care legislation.

“You ever wonder that if you had focused entirely, exclusively, not to take away your work on healthcare and Wall Street reform, but if you had just focus on jobs as some people suggest you should have been doing, that maybe it would be different than now?” Tapper asked Obama.

“Probably not,” Obama replied. “Every day, I think about other things we could be doing different and the truth of the matter is, we passed a very big recovery act that we knew was going to take some time to take effect. It made a difference.”

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Why aren’t these people marching in front of the White House? Crony capitalism seems to start there! Solyndra was just one example of the crony capitalism this administration has corrupted it self with. What happened to the transparent government Obama promised? Follow the money, where has Obama gotten most of his campaign money from, Wall Street!!! Obama flips and flops more than a fish out of water!!! Only his hardcore left wing liberal base is going to vote for him next time, it won’t be enough!!! Americans don’t want 4 more years of failed policies and no jobs!!!

Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 18, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

So I guess the president is calling the “occupy” movement racist. Not too many people of color at those mob scenes we’ve been seeing on TV. Must be racists!

Posted by: s | October 18, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Tea Party…clearly defined objectives: 1. Reduce Spending. 2. Cut/eliminate the federal debt. 3. Reduce the size of government. 4. Return to a strict interpretation of the constitution. Occupy anything now group’s objectives: Duh………..

Posted by: wantingbalance | October 18, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Obama should re-think aligning himself with this angry mob of radical hippies! – The American Communist Party has recently joined the OWS protests that are sweeping the country! I don’t think they were ever at any Tea Party rallies! I don’t recall hundreds of people being arrested at Tea Party rallies either! So Obama is wrong again, the Tea Party is a lot different than the OWS movement!!!

Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 18, 2011, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

No Obama you are wrong. These people are on national news saying they want wealth equaly distributed. NO that is not going to happen in this free country. But Obama is trying hard to socialize this nation to a point none of have to work. We will just steal from each others wealth if any is left and let China call their loan to us due and just let them take over our nation. Sounds stupid does it not? But if your a left lib nut case protesting it is the right thing to do is it not.

Posted by: Jim Rod | October 18, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

In some ways, they’re not that different from some of the protests that we saw coming from the Tea Party. Presidents Obama own words. so why have they called the TeaParty, terrorists, unamerican, stupid, racist, and every derogatory name they could think off. I guess this is different, because George Soros, Code Pink, Adbusters (a canadian enterprise funded by Soros) the SEIU are involved with this group, I guess their racist, there are no BLACKS in the crowd, but they do know how to occupy a PRIVATE park, smoke pot and have sex freely in public places, cost the taxpayers of NYC about 2 million so far and counting, leave their waste wherever it’s convenient, and the DEMOCRATS love it.

Posted by: Lizzie | October 18, 2011, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Of course Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party are different! One is a group of Americans are protesting for our freedom, the other are loony extremists!

Now, which is which? (It all depends on your point of view.)

Posted by: CharonPDX | October 18, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Um no…One is protesting Wall Street taking their money and the other is protesting the government doing it.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 18, 2011, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

The key difference between the two sets of protesters is that the tea party are the people who pay for everything and get nothing in return whereas the occupy wall street hippies are the people who pay for nothing and live off other peoples’ money.

Posted by: Katy TX Dad | October 18, 2011, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

However, it figures he can’t tell the difference.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 18, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Don’t equate the Tea Party with Occupy Wall St. The Tea Party is for cutting spending. In other words, don’t invest in getting the economy back on track. Just cut and reduce which won’t create one job and will cause another recession. Occupy Wall St thinks revenues need to be increased on the wealthy and corporations who have had their taxes reduced consistently since Reagan 30 years ago and now have the lowest rates and most tax loopholes. The 99% have had their wages stagnate for the same 30 years while JP Morgan Chase is rolling in billion dollar profits during the worst economy since the Depression. How is this possible? How were they able to generate such profits? Clearly something is fishy but the GOP couldn’t care less wanting to roll back Dodd-Frank regulations. There is a much greater approval of OWS than there is for the Tea Party protests. WANTINGBALANCE – LMAO – strict interpretation of the constitution??? What did the Supreme Court do in Citizens? They gave away the show to the rich and corporations who can donate to campaigns with impunity and in secret so that extreme right wing politicians are ushered into office against the wishes of the silent majority.

Posted by: Bob | October 18, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Wait, I thought Obama and his administration called the Tea Partiers racists and terrorists? So, Obama’s saying he thinks the OWS crowd are racists and terrorists too? Good to know.

Posted by: JakeTaylor | October 18, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

He’s admitting he doesn’t get it.

Posted by: Kathy | October 18, 2011, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

wow OBAMA’s not hiding anymore…aligning himself with the Communist Party…

Posted by: CC Brown | October 18, 2011, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Obama is not fooling me. He is in bed with these wall street crooks that Americans are protesting . They are campaign donors. Obama’s refusal to prosecute these wall street crooks who caused the financial meltdown says it all.

Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | October 18, 2011, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

I’am inpressed with Obama more and more each time I hear him speak, I ‘am a moderate conservative, regestered Independent.
The GOP rifgt scares the hell out of me, and pushes me futher, and futher away from the GOP.

I’am a 99% ‘ER and though it’s tough to admitt your on the losing side of the American dream, I’d rather eat bread with the rightous, than meat with Rupert Murdock, I’am my brother’s keeper!

Or does the GOP only reffer to the bible when they can use it to condem, divide, and fear monger those who are close to being cult bait for extreme interpertations, and distortions of the Chistian bible anyway?
No, I do not trust the GOP’s far right, TeaBgger’s, AND those sleazy Koch Brothers, they are buying stealing my vote with their dollars!
Retta in Vegas

Posted by: Loretta | October 18, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

“Are you better off NOW than you were 4 years ago” Unless you are on Wall St., a government employee, or a contractor… I would hope you have enough self respect to look in the mirror and say NO! If not, even this President is incapable of helping you… Bottom line…

Posted by: John Titor | October 18, 2011, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Why aren’t these people marching in front of the White House? Crony capitalism seems to start there! Solyndra was just one example of the crony capitalism this administration has corrupted it self with. What happened to the transparent government Obama promised? Follow the money, where has Obama gotten most of his campaign money from, Wall Street!!! Obama flips and flops more than a fish out of water!!! Only his hardcore left wing liberal base is going to vote for him next time, it won’t be enough!!! Americans don’t want 4 more years of failed policies and no jobs!!!

POSTED BY: RADIOMAN77 | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 1:24 PM 1:24 PM______________LOL! Obama flip-flopping more than a fish out of water. Thanks for the laugh, buddy. I needed it.

Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | October 18, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

For the most part, I have agreed with the President’s approach to solving this country’s economic problems. Economic turnaround is going to have to come from multiple facets; there is no one solution. However, I take issue with comparing the ‘occupy Wall Street’ protestors to the Tea Party. The Tea Party is a group of self-centered, wealthy right wingers who want the status quo for health care and no taxation equity between the wealthy and middle class and working poor. The Tea Partiers are so out of touch with reality it is dangerous. This country’s economic problems stem DIRECTLY from Wall Street’s lack of regulation, allowing greed to run rampant at the expense of not only US citizens but all of the Eurporean nations as well. I think this country should count its blessings that the ‘occupy’ protests have not grown to the enormous size of similar protests in Eqypt and Syria. What the ‘occupy’ protestors are saying is crystal clear; this country is headed to a great divide between the few ‘haves’ and the many ‘have nots.’ History has proven time and time again that once the poor populous realize they have nothing to lose, revolution is the only answer. Mass layoff by large companies of this country is not going to help turn the economy around. Outside the box thinking, such as global salary cuts of 5% for worker bees to 20% for top brass and keeping people employed seems a much better solution.

Posted by: rohnertpark1 | October 18, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

“…we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” [With higher taxes] —- “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded” [like Fannie, Freddie, GM, Solyndra]

Posted by: Steve | October 18, 2011, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

“However, it figures he can’t tell the difference.” *** LOL!!! This made me chuckle. Clearly this is political posturing. If this President truly cannot tell the difference between these two groups then their is reason for concern.

Posted by: MyTakeOnThis61 | October 18, 2011, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

I think most of the people who support the tea party have jobs!! That’s why they only get together at pre-arranged times and locations, not like mobs.

Posted by: S Norton | October 18, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

People come don’t be played by the media. Divide and make profit that’s how all these media outlet do. Remember the majority of the press didn’t question President Bush’s agenda. There doing the same again. They know people’s frustrated with the slow economic recovery, so they play on that. President Obama has been strong on national security so they stay away from that. That’s there tactic to make money and stay relevant, divide us and make profit. If you think i’m wrong just go over to FOX, CNN they were all in trouble two years ago, some of the newspaper even wanted bailout money.

Posted by: Mark gordon | October 18, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

I do not remember ever hearing about arrests of Tea Party members at rallys, or violence by Tea Party members, or trashing of public venues by Tea Party members, or Tea Party members taking a c___ on a police car, or having sex in the streets, or doing drugs. Occupy Wall Street does not represent hard working Americans. It only represents that 47% who don’t pay any taxes and still want more of my income……

Posted by: mj | October 18, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

“…that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama said. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.”****

He summed it up in a nutshell. The idea that there is no clear objective to the Occupy Movement is bunk; the fact is all the different issues being raised boil down to THIS.

As for are we better off now than 4 years ago? Whether or not this President has done any good for most of us?

Absolutely.

We are in the 17th straight month of private sector job growth (coming after over a year of massive private sector job LOSSES under Bush; look at the darn GRAPH, as published in the Wall Street Journal….a big V, the left, downward half in red, representing the private sector job losses under Bush’s last year and the right-hand, UPward side in blue, representing the p.s. job GAINS so far under Obama.)

FTR, the increase in the unemployment rate is almost entirely due to PUBLIC SECTOR job losses, most of them under REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY people elected in the mid-terms nationwide. Last month, the 137,000 private sector jobs created by SMALL and mid-sized businesses (large companies ELIMINATED 5,000 jobs) were off-set by 54,000 lost public sector jobs)

And he is absolutely correct in saying that HIS agenda is more in line with the goals of the Occupy Movement; he realizes that WE are the job creators, NOT the giant multinationals or the uber-rich.

The primary objective of this movement, as I see it, is to force the issue of the economic inequality and corruption (including getting corporate money OUT of our government!) to the forefront in this upcoming election. It’s working. :)

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I see he’s still going out of his way to alienate the democratic base and lose the election.

Posted by: whatever | October 18, 2011, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

The supporters of OWS include the Communist & Socilaist Parties, Iran, Hugo Chavez, China, the Democrats and Obama – ?

Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 18, 2011, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

GOP supporters: There are MANY MANY hard-working Democrats that are not looking for “handouts” as you seem to lump EVERY Democrat into. The hard-working Democrats at least like to hear a President acknowledge them– which Obama does. I have NEVER heard a Boehner, Cantor, McConnell say they need to help the working person get more for their dollar. They are more for giving that dollar to the wealthy and their shareholders.

Posted by: america2929 | October 18, 2011, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Hello America, well Obama is right to a certain extent, the Occupy Wallstreet Protestors do have some things incommon with the Tea Party and somethings not. the things we donot have incommon. is that Tea Party People are orderly law abiding citizens, that leave a rally cleaner than when they came. the OWP donot , while the Tea Party members are against Wallstreet bailouts from the Federal Goverment as with the now defunk Solyndra corporation. we are not opposed to Wallstreet Bankers who earn their own money and have an honest stock exchange such as the Ford Motor Company which refused federal funding. some, some OWP people are against everything to do with buisness, and the main difference is that the OWP is being funded by ACORN a Barrak Obama favorite pork spending pieve. while the Tea Party would like to close ACORNS doors and get back all our federal funding to ACORN. the only other things that the OWP and Tea Party have incommon is the claim to the right to free speach.
sincerely Fezzy Bear

Posted by: Fezzy Bear | October 18, 2011, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Clearly OWS and the Teabaggers share an overly simplistic view of macroeconomics that leads them both to make totally impractical demands on society. How do you get their votes? Give them overly simplistic promises to change American society by getting rid of greed and downsizing government if not eradicating it entirely. Then when you’re elected do whatever you want.

Oh wait, that’s how it’s always worked. Damn, what a bunch of idealistic fools these people really are.

Mr. Dick Turpin

Posted by: Mr. Dick Turpin | October 18, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Well according to the latest USA Today Poll, if the election was held today Cain would beat Obama, no problem! – Could that be the reason the left wing liberals are desperately trying to label Cain as a Tea Party racist??? Its truly laughable how far the left will go to save Obama! Its clear Obama is out of touch with the real world and what the Tea Party is all about!

Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 18, 2011, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

The inept one proves his incompetence yet again. You go Obama! Even your loser base is realizing your an idiot!

Posted by: HUH? | October 18, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

There is one massive difference betwen the tea party and the ows crowd: the ows crowd does not understand how to bring about change. It is not by protesting. Washington doesn’t care about protesters. If you want to bring about change, this must be done in washtington by our representatives. The tea party understands this. The ows crowd, by protesting only, are like kids playing in a sand box and Washington walks by, pats them on the head and says “…you have a nice day…”

Posted by: RalphF | October 18, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

OF course they are trying to get on the coattails of the OWS movement, it is the lefts best chance to replicate the Tea Party for and by the left, a Tea Party that did what they could never do with all their planning and community organizing, a Tea Party with no head to tear down and publicly excoriate. The Tea Party beat the left at their own game and the left has nothing in reply, The lefts Incessant need to plan and control stops any grass roots movement from growing and always has one person calling the shots, and the same tired arguments and even some of the same tired old protesters brought out of cryo from the 60′s. While the Tea Party actually agrees on 4 main points, smaller government in both size and scope, less taxes, and government that follows the constitution and not legal precedent. The OWS doesn’t agree on anything other than I want something, I can’t afford it, so someone with money must give it to me.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | October 18, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Democrats liken Obama to a good leader. He isnt.

Posted by: Paulie | October 18, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

The only people Obama has ever shown real solidarity with is Wall Street CEO’s and bankers.

Posted by: Getreal2011 | October 18, 2011, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

LOL this man may want to spend more time alone talking to himself.

Posted by: tateofpa | October 18, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

@Raven – really? Which jobs have YOU created?

Posted by: Bob | October 18, 2011, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Oh no. Please don’t tell me the President is lumping OWS with the teabaggers. Wow. Please, Mr President, say something a little bit more in touch than that. omg.

Posted by: RillyKewl | October 18, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Tea Baggers, I mean Tea Partiers are Activist for Politics, the Occupiers are Activist for Humanity!

We need to move from Politiics to Humanity.

Posted by: Mandy Cruz | October 18, 2011, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Why aren’t these people marching in front of the White House? Crony capitalism seems to start there! Solyndra was just one example of the crony capitalism this administration has corrupted it self with.

Posted by: RadioMan77 | October 18, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

You know nothing about what the President did or didn’t do with Solyndra. So if that’s the only example you’re got for your accusations, you’ve got very little.

You would do far better to look beyond your bias to what happened during the massive economic collapse under Bush, if you’re looking for corruption.

Posted by: Ted | October 18, 2011, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

One of the many differences between the OWS protestors and the Tea Baggers is that the Tea Baggers didn’t vote for Obama, and there’s no chance in hell they will in 2012. Obrainiac has repeatedly illustrated that he is not capable of ushering this country through a financial crises; witness: cash for clunkers; the massive bank bailouts, which gave MY money to parasites like Bank of America, which is trying to bleed me out of my home and continues to flood our courts with fraudulent foreclosures; and giving a half-billion dollars in tax-payer money to Solyndra, whose business plan was to make solar panels for $6 and sell them for $3 because it benefited one of his campaign contributors. If the fact that he’s currently campaigning on tax-payer money instead of his own significant campaign funds isn’t enough evidence that he is and remains utterly CLUELESS, then I don’t want to know what is. He’s no better than any of the Republicans against whom he rails ON MY DIME.

Posted by: Lady Goodman | October 18, 2011, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Somebody here wrote that there are no blacks at OWS. Honey, you better get yourself some eyeglasses! Ha, ha, ha. Weird.

Posted by: RillyKewl | October 18, 2011, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Wouldn’ the President show real leadership to return all the money he has received in the past 4 years from Wall Street? He could donate it to the OWS crowd and they could never acccuse him of taking any special interest money from these evil groups.

Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 18, 2011, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

As a long time staunch Democrat I am becoming more and more disillusioned about both political parties and their stupid and lying rhetoric. All of these a ‘holes have been doing for months is giving the people lip service with absolutely nothing to show for it. It is obvious to me that Washington, D.C. does not give two cow pucks about getting Americans back to work or any along those lines.

Posted by: Joe Allard | October 18, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Oh please, Mr President. Please say you see a difference. If you equate us with the baggers, we are in a bit of trouble. Please say you get it, better than that. Oy.

Posted by: RillyKewl | October 18, 2011, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

There’s a lot of haters on this thread. Yikes.

Posted by: RillyKewl | October 18, 2011, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

The Tea Party? Not quite. But since these “occupy wall street” protesters would like to suckle at the government’s breast, they should be called ” The Teet Party”.

Posted by: free_2_choose | October 18, 2011, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

This Pesident is setting a record for campaigning when he is supposed to be providing some kind of leadership for this country. Will someone please tell him that……….besides his new growling speaking style, he shows us that he is increasingly at a loss for constructive criticism, let alone creative thinking. The guy is on some kind of mission to divide this country, and frankly, I find it abhorrent…….is this what Chicago “class” is????????????????????????????????

Posted by: justj joey | October 18, 2011, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Well, BOB, as a small business owner (twice so far in my 45 yrs) I’ve created quite a few. Actually, our CUSTOMERS created them, by hiring us to do work for them which required us to HIRE people to get done. (FTR, neither regulations nor taxes ever factored in our decision to hire or not; someone is offering us the chance to make $50,000 on a job, and we have to hire extra help to DO it and get PAID, we HIRE and GET PAID…economics 101. Never in my life knew of a business owner who REFUSED work because they would have to pay PART of the earnings out in wages/taxes!)

A recent large survey of business owners and CEOS reported NO mention of either regulations or taxes as impediments to hiring or expansion. The TOP reason cited, by far, was lack of DEMAND/CUSTOMERS. And last month’s job report revealed that ALL of the 137,000 private sector jobs created were created by SMALL to MID-SIZED companies (LARGE companies eliminated 5,000 jobs).

Unlike the giant multinationals who outsource to China or elsewhere, we always paid a living wage and basic benefits, too. In our thinking, if we could not afford to do so, then we couldn’t afford to hire a human being and the business wasn’t viable. We WERE a coporation, but we were also PEOPLE with ETHICS and we refused to put a higher profit margin above what we felt was RIGHT.

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Excellent observation President Obama. You tell’em

Posted by: Jim Bob jr. | October 18, 2011, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Does the Secret Service know the the OWS folks have made him a “target” ?

Posted by: John Q Public | October 18, 2011, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

#1. Tea Party members don’t defecate on Police Cars, expose their breasts in public, smoke weed in public, use the “F” word to state their concerns about Big Government overspending our Tax Dollars, leave garbage in their wake, take over parks and streets for days and weeks at a time, belong to Marxist Totalitarian Movement, or get PAID FOR PROTESTING. End of differences.

Posted by: SITEUNSEEN | October 18, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“There’s a lot of haters on this thread. Yikes.”

I know…some SCARY stupid out there.

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Tea Party people took their issues to DC. They were ignored, but that is where the problem is. And Obam is riding around on a million dollar bus today campaigning yet AGAIN. Did Axlerod not tell him the election ended three years ago?

Posted by: specialty57 | October 18, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Obama joining hands with the NAZI and COMMUNIST parties of America, Where are Obamas other friends? .. The NEW BLACK PANTHER Party?

Posted by: Bogus President | October 18, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

He’s kidding – right? So, Obama, the American Natzi Party, the American Communist party and the New Black Panther Party (those are the ones wanting to kill “white babies”) are all in agreement. Now that I think that through, I’m not really surprised.

Posted by: PATH | October 18, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

I do not want to believe that our civilisation is going down. why won’t economists come out to tell the real truth about the state of the world’s economy?
The truth remains that no president, sitting now, or newly elected, would perform any magic on fast economic recovery.
The reasons adduced above, are that: (1) the world’s population is growing faster; (2) America’s internal trade has peaked; (3) no new industries to support growing population and jobs; (4) America has spent too much alone to keep the world peace for others to thrive and enjoy stability on trade, and America losing out.; (5) national resources and wealth have dwindle worlwide ; ( 6) international trade has been occupied by distrusted traders; and finally (7) there has to be a new world order on economies and peoples of the globe, because we are already a community.
We should discusss our problems with solutions, and help our president to succed…there’s no heaven on earth, but we can make our heaven on earth.

Posted by: Francis Ushie | October 18, 2011, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Re: “Why aren’t these people marching in front of the White House?”

The White House is where the Puppet is. Wall St is where the Puppet Masters are. To change the Puppet, you must get to the Puppet Master.

Posted by: Bubbles | October 18, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

I’m not sure exactly what these protestors are trying to accomplish. If you want to change the system, you have to do it from the inside. They seem like a bunch of entitled brats who are mad because they don’t feel like working for what they want in life. They don’t even have a list of demands..what do they expect everyone to do? Abandon capitalism and then there will be what…anarchy? Maybe they should move to Cuba to learn about real class warfare.

Posted by: GoHome | October 18, 2011, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Obama: Occupy Wall Street ‘Not That Different’ From Tea Party Protests……… FAIL LMFAOOO

Posted by: Bryan Smith | October 18, 2011, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

The 1% are hoarding the wealth of the country. Tax them, pay teachers and fire fighters, let the money circulate. Hoarding is wrong, even the bible says so.

Posted by: June | October 18, 2011, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

The movements are polar opposites. Tea Party stands for freedom. OWS agitates for slavery to the state. The Tea Partiers are those who hustle, strive, and contribute; the Occupiers are those who demand, intimidate, and mooch.

The Tea Party wants Americans to live as free citizens who make our own decisions. OWS wants us to live as permanent children in a nanny state that controls our money, protects us, and tells us what to do, under the bizarre impression that the state is an entity that cares about them.

Posted by: Cara C | October 18, 2011, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

There is one massive difference betwen the tea party and the ows crowd: the ows crowd does not understand how to bring about change. It is not by protesting. Washington doesn’t care about protesters. If you want to bring about change, this must be done in washtington by our representatives. The tea party understands this. The ows crowd, by protesting only, are like kids playing in a sand box and Washington walks by, pats them on the head and says “…you have a nice day…”

Posted by: RalphF | October 18, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
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The Tea Party understood this? My rear end. The Koch brothers, as well as a boatload of other right leaning think tanks and organizations hitched their wagon to those people and paid to turn it into what it is now. If you think that happened by spontaneous accident you’re sadly mistaken. The Tea Party did nothing but protest at first as well.

Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2011, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Aren’t they protesting the corporate buyouts on Wall Street? So, in essence aren’t they protesting the man they put in office?

Posted by: Willis | October 18, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Oh that Tea Party. They’re patriots. Those white haired people on Medicare that went into Town Hall meetings and yelled like idiots so nobody could hold the first conversation on HCR. They have their Medicare and they could care less if anybody else has healthcare. But they are patriots that only want to keep what they have earned. Yeah, right. Not to mention their taxes have NEVER been lower and the entire movement began with them ranting about how high their taxes were. Well, we’re laying off teachers now, and more people are hurting, so I hope it was worth it to them to keep their taxes as low as they could.

Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2011, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

POSTED BY: WILLIS | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 4:06 PM 4:06 PM

I would think most people are protesting the corruption in big financial institutions and the top 1% that took the country into the disastrous economic collapse under Bush. All ordinary Americans suffered because of this, except the richest, and they got richer. People have had enough.

The top 1% are hoarding the bulk of the nation’s wealth.

Posted by: John | October 18, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Occupy Wallstreet is the Tea Party minus the misspelled racists signs and the racist degrading pictures of the president and the racial and homophobic slurs, the loud and unruly behavior. So no, Mr. President, Occupy Wallstreet IS NOT like the tea party. THANK GOD FOR THAT. That’s why it’s going globally because it is a positive movement, unlike the tea baggers. And the poll shows 54% in favor or OWS as opposed to 27% of the teabaggers. You don’t need to be a rocket scientists to figure this out.

Posted by: Sher | October 18, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Posted by: June | October 18, 2011, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Number of jobs created by June: ZERO.

Pssst, June, I can hoard as much wealth as I want. It’s my labor and my earnings, not yours.

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

The bottom line for the super wealthy – like Bush, Cheney and the rest of them – is ‘don’t worry about this economic crisis, we’re doing fine’. Keep hoarding the money and we’ll have Obama out of office in no time.

Posted by: John | October 18, 2011, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

This bill has nothing to do with jobs, it is another stimulus from Obama to his union cronies. He is just campaigning a year before the election, he is on a bus running form his record.

Posted by: Tim Mash | October 18, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

The top 1% are hoarding the bulk of the nation’s wealth.

Posted by: John | October 18, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are all in the top 1%. Their net worths have skyrocketed in the past two years while presiding over record poverty. Go to DC and protest their hoarding.

There’s a good reason why communists coined the term “useful idiot” to describe liberals.

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

he is on a bus running form his record.

POSTED BY: TIM MASH | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 4:19 PM 4:19 PM

After Bush’s economic collapse lost the nation 9 million jobs and threw the country into massive debt and deficits? No, it is not the Democrats who have to run from their record. It is the Republicans who almost destroyed the country and began selling it off to China.

Posted by: Jim | October 18, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

“…a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded.” Which of those categories includes cutting class for a month to go hang out with your friends in a filthy park?

Posted by: Dave | October 18, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

POSTED BY: SUSAN | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 4:24 PM 4:24 PM

You’re quite deluded. Obama is not in the top 1%. You might want to look in the mirror when you are considering the term ‘idiot’. Nothing worse than an arrogant idiot.

Posted by: Jim | October 18, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Protesting because you want what someone else has is uninspiring. What solutions have been put forward OWS. Eat the rich? And then what? You can round up 500 in a city the size of New York to protest most anything. Show me 20,000 and I’ll pay attention.

Posted by: Jim | October 18, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Posted by: John | October 18, 2011, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Hey, genius, Obama is a top 1% multi-millionaire who doesn’t even need the money. Taxpayers cover his entire lifestyle. He’s using you while laughing all the way to the bank.

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

how can obama say…redouble his commitment to achieving what he described as a more egalitarian society….and then say…..we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama said. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.” what a load of BS…One thing that can not be disputed as shovle ready is all the BS that comes out of his mouth….keep up the good work OWS you are making 2012 a landslide for whoever runs against obama…I’m sure your families are so proud of you defecating in the streets and damaging other peoples property and stealing

Posted by: hk1215 | October 18, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

The bottom line for the super wealthy – like Bush, Cheney and the rest of them – is ‘don’t worry about this economic crisis, we’re doing fine’. Keep hoarding the money and we’ll have Obama out of office in no time.

POSTED BY: JOHN | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 4:15 PM 4:15 PM

This is exactly what’s going on.

Posted by: Travis | October 18, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Obama is not in the top 1%.

Posted by: Jim | October 18, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

lol

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Bullsh it how many arrests did the tea party have? Also the NAZI and communist parties are supporting OWS and now 1 was just arrested in Seattle for exposing himself to children get the bail money together.You in the leftstream media are spinning but its not working……

Posted by: daniel | October 18, 2011, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

For the life of me, I don’t have a clue what he’s getting at. Out of touch is the best explaination.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 18, 2011, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

How many arrests did the tea party have v ows? Also the nazi party and the communist party are backing OWS not the tea party also just lost one OWS protester in Seattle for exposing himself to children get the bail money together.

Posted by: daniel | October 18, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Those who are complaing the loudest to raise taxes on “the rich” probably aren’t paying any taxes, themselves. Perhaps it’s time that everyone should have to pay something.

Posted by: JackSmith | October 18, 2011, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

here are documented arrests from the OWS movement..
September 18 – New York, NY: 2 Arrests
September 19 – New York, NY: 5 Arrests
September 24 – New York, NY:80 Arrests
October 1 – New York, NY: 700 Arrests
October 5- St. Louis, MO: 10 Arrests
October 6 – LosAngeles, CA: 11 Arrests
October 6 – San Francisco, CA: 1 Arrest
October 6 – Santa Barbara, CA: 9 Arrests
October 7– Sacramento, CA: 19 Arrests
October 8 – Des Moines, IA: 32Arrests
October 11 – Boston, MA: 140 Arrests
October 11 – Washington, D.C.: 6 Arrests
October 11 – Chicago, IL:21 Arrests
October 12 – Houston, TX: 8 Arrests
October 12 – San Francisco, CA: 11 Arrests
October 13 – Austin, TX:4 Arrests
October 13 – Seattle, WA: 10 Arrests
October 13 – Portland, OR: 8 Arrests
October 13 – Gainesville, FL:4 Arrests
October 14 – New York, NY: 14 Arrests
October 14 – Seattle, WA: 1 Arrests
October 14 – Denver, CO: 24Arrests
October 14 – San Diego, CA: 1 Arrest
October 15 – New York, NY: 92 Arrests
October 15 – Minneapolis, MN:1 Arrest
October 15 – Raleigh, NC: 15 Arrests
October 15 – Tucson, AZ: 53 Arrests
October 15 – Phoenix, AZ: 46Arrests
October 16 – Chicago, IL: 175 Arrests
October 16 – Washington, D.C.: 19 Arrests
October 16 – Phoenix, AZ:3 Arrests
How many did the tea party have? and of those how many were move on plants sent to start trouble? this is a subject that you lefties shoul not bring up at all…lol

Posted by: hk1215 | October 18, 2011, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

If Barack does not like Americans, he could move to Switzerland or Dubai. He could spend his petro-dollars in peace and quiet.

Posted by: dustin95sc | October 18, 2011, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

HK1215, Don’t forget to mention that most of those arrests were simply for refusing to disperse/move, trespassing on PUBLIC property.

Ask yourself (you and the other “patriots” advocating for the wholesale gassing and arrest of these protesters) since WHEN did it become “unlawful conduct” (to quote the Denver police) to peacably assemble and petition your government for redress of grievences?

Hmmm?

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

“Obama said the most important thing he can do as president is express solidarity with the protesters and redouble his commitment to achieving what he described as a more egalitarian society”
Egalitarian doctrines tend to maintain that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or social status.
Distributive egalitarianism in which the wealth created by labor is organized and controlled in some equal manner. Karl Marx is considered an influential proponent of this form of egalitarianism.
Egalitarianism, which claims only to want an ‘equality’ in end results, hates the exceptional man who, through his own mental effort, achieves that which others cannot.
Egalitarianism demands the punishment and envy of anyone who is better than someone else at anything.

Posted by: oopalleyoop | October 18, 2011, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

… but Barack Obama is part of the 1%, with an Adjust Gross Income of $5,505409 in 2010, and the jet as well.

Posted by: James Loughner | October 18, 2011, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Raven…If they don’t pay any taxes, exactly what is their “grievence?”

Posted by: jackSmith | October 18, 2011, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Susan stated: “He’s using you while laughing all the way to the bank.” Judging by the comments on this page, the “he” who is laughing all the way to the bank would be Mr. Limbaugh.

Posted by: e | October 18, 2011, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

There is a big difference Mr. President. The Tea Party’s mantra is: “Give me what is mine”. The Occupiers mantra is: “Give me what is yours.” Is the Occupiers greed and envy any worse than that of Wall Street’s”?

Posted by: cynicalme | October 18, 2011, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

JACKSMITH: “Raven…If they don’t pay any taxes, exactly what is their “grievence?””

Perhaps that they are so POOR due to the record-level concentration of wealth/income, that they don’t OWE any federal income taxes? (They DO pay other taxes, including gas, sales, SS/Medicare, etc..)

Having done both in my life (paid FICA and not) I’d MUCH rather make enough to OWE than not.

You seem to be of the view that someone could be sleeping in the gutter and starving but if they don’t have to pay federal income tax, what the hell IS their complaint? Sheez.

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

“Don’t forget to mention that most of those arrests were simply for refusing to disperse/move, trespassing on PUBLIC property.” ———— They were still arrested. How many were arrested at Tea Party movements? Also, to all you putting down the Tea Party on this blog….did you not read that your great and mighty One compared the OWS to the Tea Party? So, are you going against your leader? Catch 22 isn’t it?

Posted by: Over and Done | October 18, 2011, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Pssst, June, I can hoard as much wealth as I want. It’s my labor and my earnings, not yours.
Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 4:13 pm………………………….actually, Susan, if you’re a Hedge Fund Manager then it has nothing to do with your labor. It would have to do with your amoral manipulation of the Global Market and profiting from playing high stakes poker with other people’s money. It would be the labor and hard earnings of the taxpayers that bailed out the Financial Market and payed the exorbitant bonus you received, which was inconsistent with the intent of that bail out.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | October 18, 2011, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

jacksmith “don’t pay any taxes”. Where are you getting that from?

Posted by: e | October 18, 2011, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

The only difference this obtuse affirmative-action child can see is that they both have gripes. The Tea Party pay their taxes and pick up after their rallies, and don’t have a racist bone in their bodies. The OWS freaks defecate on police cars and use violent tactics and spew obscenities, which comprise a major part of their vocabulary skills. The 800,000 Tea Party Marchers early last year were not even noted by the media, but Diane Sawyer excitedly noted that OWS rallies were happening in “over a thousand countries.”

Does anyone edit that blonde bimbo’s teleprompter crawl?

Posted by: daveinboca | October 18, 2011, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

Posted by: Taintedbylies | October 18, 2011, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

George Soros made $7 billion in 2010 as a hedge fund trader. He made billions more during the financial crisis. I don’t see the OWS crowd surrounding his house and protesting his greed. Why is that?

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

So does this mean thier racist,stupid and un-American?

Posted by: William | October 18, 2011, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Sure the Prez feels our pain. He should, he created it!

Posted by: William | October 18, 2011, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Not even close. President Obama is just using another photo-op to continue his attack on the Tea Party. The Wall Street group is a sit in group that disrupts the area it is occupying without a thought of the cost to tax payers for cleanup and security. Not to mention the disruption to local businesses and jobs. It has no specific demands, it is all over the place….”What do we want? I don’t care”!!. The Tea Party, is for fiscal and personal responsibility, smaller government with state and local control of most regulation. The Tea Party holds time specific rally’s and leaves it’s area clean when leaving. No arrests except for a few SEIU interlopers. Like I said…NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

Posted by: Connie Davis | October 18, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

RAVEN….i never advocated for the gassing or arresting of anybody..that being said, if you are defocating in the streets, exposing yourself in public, commiting violent crimes, stealing, and destroying property to name a few you may have overlooked while posting in response to me, then they deserve what they get. If this uneducated rabble called a movement was not responsible for commiting so many crimes why did they come out with a “OWS I’m getting arrested app” for their phones…lol

Posted by: hk1215 | October 18, 2011, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

“… but Barack Obama is part of the 1%, with an Adjust Gross Income of $5,505409 in 2010, and the jet as well.”***

Actually, he is in the top 0.1%! (anyone with more than 1.6 million or so a year in declared income IS) And why should he NOT be? On the one hand, the Righties praise the wealthy and their right to be so and on the other, they bash this President for BEING SO.

At any rate, it’s all relative (and I don’t mean inherited wealth, although that certainly factors in in many cases! Not in HIS case, however.)

Consider this, from a recent study of income/wealth disparity in the U.S.:

“it is also important to realize that the lower half of that top 1% has far less than those in the top half; in fact, both wealth and income are super-concentrated in the top 0.1%, which is just one in a thousand.”

Or this, from Kiplinger: ” The latest numbers from the IRS — based on 2009 tax returns — show what it takes to be among the top 1% of income earners: adjusted gross income of $343,927 or more. The 1.4 million Americans with this elite status reported 16.9% of all the country’s taxable income.

That’s right. One percent of taxpayers reported almost 17% of all taxable income… How much do you need to make to be in the top 50% of earners? Just $32,396.

Fall below that level and you are in the bottom half, along with nearly 70 million of your fellow taxpayers. All told, that group earned just 13% of the income reported on 2009 tax returns…”

See, THAT is the POINT; many Americans, like frogs being slowly boiled, have yet to realize that they are COOKED, and NOT part of the top percents or at any risk of ever being so.

Just think; making 33 grand a year puts you in the top 50%! Just 344 grand puts you in the top 1%!

To some, that may seem like a goal to strive for. To others, it is a travesty, indicating as it does the massive DECLINES in income and standard of living for everyone else over the last 30 years or so.

The very IDEA that simply earning a middle-class income places you above between 2/3rds and 3/4s of your fellow Americans (depending on your definition of “middle-class”, but I started at 65 grand a year and went up to 90 grand in mine) is ABHORENT to many of us who grew up on the American Dream.

This is the FIRST generation in which the income and standard of living of our children will be LESS than that of their parents, folks.

Wages (except for CEO compensation, which has risen dramatically) have been stagnant or in decline since the 1970′s!

(and of course, meanwhile, corporate profits and the wealth of the top few percent have risen to record levels)

Bottom line, at this point, if we don’t want our President to be “rich” (compared to US) we need to find someone with an annual income of 100 grand or so. Good luck; there are precious few of us left (85% of us make less).

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

To TIM MASH | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 4:19 PM 4:19 PM

“It is the Republicans who almost destroyed the country and began selling it off to China.”
What? How about General Electrics’ (directed by Jeffery Immelt) plan to move its 115-year-old X-ray division from Waukesha, Wis., to Beijing.Jeffrey Immelt, is one of President Obama’s (Job) advisers and GE Chief Executive . Great job creation . . . .for China. I guess that’s OK! What a Obamanation!

Posted by: william | October 18, 2011, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

The top 1% are the people who own the bulk of the country’s WEALTH, not just some income one year or the next. A few million here or there does not put you into the top 1%. Far, far from it. And Obama’s few million put him nowhere near into the top 1% who own all the wealth.

It’s no wonder you have such a shallow understanding of economic in this country. You have the a mentality of an eastern-european, small-time restaurant owner trying to pretend he understands the super wealthy of the country. You don’t.

Posted by: Jane | October 18, 2011, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

HK1215, why don’t you post a breakdown of WHICH arrests were for anything like you list and WHICH were for “trespassing, refusing to disperse, no permit, jaywalking, etc”?

Because I can assure you, the vast majority have been for simply “occupying” public areas and refusing to leave.

And yeah, THAT’S why they made plans FOR being arrested (here, they passed out slips reading “write this number on your arm in case you are arrested”…to call for legal support…turned out, no-one needed it)

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

If I remember correctly, Obama and the dems ridiculed the Tea Party. I don’t see/hear them ridiculing the Occupiers, even though the Occupiers are trashing the park.

Posted by: joan | October 18, 2011, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

People who see only halos on the heads of those who validate their point of view and who see eviil in those who don’t are using way more emotion than rational thinking. They are also putting their ego front and center. Too bad there isn’t a test before you comment to see if you are capable of being objective. It would make the comment section an incredible arena for discussion. As it stands now, it is an embarrassing display of ridulousness.

Posted by: emer | October 18, 2011, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

POSTED BY: RAVEN | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 6:01 PM++++They were ARRESTED period. It doesn’t matter if it was for jaywalking or spitting on the sidewalk. At least the Tea Party has respect and they haven’t been arrested. Sorry by the OWS is a bunch of whining losers without a clue no matter how you spin it.

Posted by: Whining Occupier | October 18, 2011, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

ridulousness sounds like a spell from Harry Potter. :)

Posted by: emer | October 18, 2011, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

George Soros made $7 billion in 2010 as a hedge fund trader. He made billions more during the financial crisis. I don’t see the OWS crowd surrounding his house and protesting his greed. Why is that? Posted by: Susan | October 18, 2011, 5:35 pm………………….Uh, his money is made on Wall Street?

Posted by: Taintedbylies | October 18, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

whining, I haven’t paid much attention to the OWS group and I wouldn’t pay much attention to the tp group but I live in a super conservative area and they meet sometimes in the park next door to where I live. I hate to tell you this but when they do meet here all they do is whine. They blame others for every problem and then throw in name calling. They once marched in our community 4th of July parade with signs calling people idiots. Point is, both groups are engaging in acts freely open to criticism. I agree with Obama that they are similar in many ways, especially as a means to complain about things they don’t like.

Posted by: e | October 18, 2011, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Anybody up there, including Buffet, is pushing for policy so they themselves have to pay more.

POSTED BY: SECONDLOOK | OCTOBER 18, 2011, 6:30 PM ++Not Bill Clinton

Posted by: allen | October 18, 2011, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

I especially like the costumes and painted body art.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 18, 2011, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

“He’s kidding – right? So, Obama, the American Natzi Party, the American Communist party and the New Black Panther Party (those are the ones wanting to kill “white babies”) are all in agreement. Now that I think that through, I’m not really surprised.” ~~~~~~~~ How much thinking about the subject could you really have done when your poor level of knowledge about those parties is demonstrated by the fact that you can’t even spell the name of one of them correctly?

Posted by: Minorkey1 | October 18, 2011, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

It would make the comment section an incredible arena for discussion. As it stands now, it is an embarrassing display of ridulousness. Posted by: emer | October 18, 2011, 6:04 pm………………Actually, there is quite often good discussion in the comments section. This topic seems to be especially volatile.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | October 18, 2011, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Obviously President NoBo has never been to a Tea Party getty.

But that’s OK, I’m getting used to our President talking about things he knows next to nothing about.

Posted by: Noz | October 18, 2011, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“I especially like the costumes and painted body art.” – newcountryman

Do they also have that at Tea Party meetings?

Posted by: Noz | October 18, 2011, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Please Obama there is no comparison with the flea baggers and the tea party. It is no wonder with statements like that why you have failed in all aspects of your presidency.

Posted by: Herrera | October 18, 2011, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

RAVEN: “Ask yourself (you and the other ‘patriots’ advocating for the wholesale gassing and arrest of these protesters) since WHEN did it become ‘unlawful conduct’ (to quote the Denver police) to peacably assemble and petition your government for redress of grievences? Hmmm?”

It’s not a ‘peaceable assembly’ when protesters trample the rights of others by taking over a common public area, as well as any resulting property damage. We need to gain the approval of the public through their representatives in government before ‘peaceable assembly.’ It’s just another liberal scam to act as if liberals can take over any public space under the guise of such constitutional protections.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 18, 2011, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

The OWC crowd are the same type people as those who support Marx and Stalin (who killed 61 MILLION) and Hitler (who killed 21 MILLION). Neither regime started off this extreme but look where they ended up. Taking from one group of people and giving it to another group is stealing no matter how you justify it. If the “rich” got that way by illegal means then prosecute them. If you don’t agree with their business tactics, or who they support – you have the power to boycott them. But to threaten and demand that you have a right to somebody’s money because you lacked the initiative or drive, or maybe even ability to do it yourself is ludicrous. I am not wealthy by any means. Sure I would like to have more money in the bank. However, I am not willing to make sacrifice and work 12+ hour days, to always be on call, in order to achieve that goal. My time is better invested elsewhere, like my family.

Maybe that’s the real problem is that instead of having parents who taught these people to be productive members of society, they only had absentee parents who gave them everything, teaching them to only be takers.

MHO

Posted by: Pedro | October 18, 2011, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

“who support Marx and Stalin”? Really Pedro? I don’t think you know much about Marx to make that statement. Who do you think Marx is? And based on Stalin’s misuse of communism as an ideology in order to justify a dictatorship how do you arrive at placing these two men together? Don’t ignore the complexities by reducing things to a simple narrative.

Posted by: e | October 18, 2011, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

E: “And based on Stalin’s misuse of communism as an ideology in order to justify a dictatorship how do you arrive at placing these two men together?”

Right, because the next dictator would treat the people fairly. That’s the whole point — the system is inherently corrupt. The only system that forces the government to treat the people fairly is one based on freedom, like the one we have in the US. Liberals just don’t like the fact that they have to work for themselves and that others that work hard deserve more.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 18, 2011, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

The next dictator? Anonymous, there should be no dictator. That is the point. Ergo my use of the word misuse.

Another point was one of incredulity that someone had trouble seeing the difference between someone who was responsible for killing millions of people and a man who wrote about the plight of the working class at the dawn of the industrial revolution. Not even sort of in the same category.

“US. Liberals just don’t like the fact that they have to work for themselves and that others that work hard deserve more.”
I don’t go much for labels but the political label that would most closely define me would be a liberal. I have been working since I was 15, cleaning toilets, waiting on tables, cleaning, measuring ditches, design, writing, etc, I am employed in a 40+ hour a week job plus starting my own business. Nope, I don’t have a problem with working. Nor does any other Liberal I know. Most of the Liberals I know own a business and are entrepreneurs. Look around and observe and go talk to others. You might find those simple little narratives that you subscribe too in the above comment to be off base.

Posted by: e | October 18, 2011, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Truth be told these movements are populace movements and neither Right nor Left. The Tea Party was cheered in New York the same way the OWS movement is. Yes, these movements have been infiltrated by the usual suspects in an attempt to divide and conquer once again. Shake them off! Keep the populace momentum going and ignore the Left VS. Right cliches being proposed by the main stream media.

Posted by: MedullaPancreas | October 18, 2011, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

Fleabaggers: George Soros had lobster and champagne last night. Michael Moore is staying at the Rennaissance in Times Square while in town to “protest”. Nancy Pelosi’s personal investment holdings grew by 61% last year during a recession of historic proportions. The domain “OccupyWallStreet.org” was registered in June by Estonian Socilaists (and then transferred in August to Adbusters, which is a prank “culture jamming” magazine known for creating mock boycotts and demonstrations, simply for sport).

You are what Lenin referred to as the “Useful Idiots” who the oligarchy can count on to take to the streets when commanded by their masters. Obama = Bush = Wall Street = Romney = Pelosi = Halliburton = Solyndra = Barney Frank = Fannie Mae = Cheney.

You are being used.

You have become the sheeple you dread.

Posted by: Tom | October 19, 2011, 12:01 am 12:01 am

There’s now a report that a 19-year old woman was raped at Occupy Cleveland. Never heard of a rape occurring at a Tea Party rally. Never heard anti-Semitic slurs at a TP rally. Never heard protesters chanting “F**k the USA” at a TP rally. Never heard protesters demanding an end to the system that allows such protests and an abundance of wealth at a TP rally. Never was there a TP rally that did not pay the permit fees and leave trash, soil, condoms, needles, behind for all to clean up. Yet, it is the TP protesters maligned by Pelosi, Obama, Reid, most of the mainstream press and the Left. Nice. Bottom line: no one’s daughter ever got raped at a TP rally. Sleep on that.

Posted by: Stop2Think | October 19, 2011, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Tom, how can you repeat a scripted talking point from talk radio and then call other people sheeple?

Posted by: yes | October 19, 2011, 12:15 am 12:15 am

This one is for you stop2think. From a poster above:

“People who see only halos on the heads of those who validate their point of view and who see evil in those who don’t are using way more emotion than rational thinking. They are also putting their ego front and center. Too bad there isn’t a test before you comment to see if you are capable of being objective. It would make the comment section an incredible arena for discussion. As it stands now, it is an embarrassing display of ridiculousness.”

Posted by: yes | October 19, 2011, 12:19 am 12:19 am

There’s now a report that a 19-year old woman was raped at Occupy Cleveland.

POSTED BY: STOP2THINK | OCTOBER 19, 2011, 12:10 AM 12:10 AM

Oh well! Spread the rumor just as quickly as you can to show what class you have! Why even wait to confirm its true, just spread it!

Posted by: Jenny | October 19, 2011, 12:19 am 12:19 am

POSTED BY: LYSANDER SPOONER | OCTOBER 19, 2011, 2:07 AM 2:07 AM

Professional help?

Posted by: Doug | October 19, 2011, 3:09 am 3:09 am

I agree. Except for the filth, the drug use, the profanity, the defecating on police cars, the crime, the rape, the destruction of private property and the call for the downfall of capitalism in favor of a Marxist Eutopia, they are exactly the same.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell | October 19, 2011, 7:03 am 7:03 am

Professional help?

Posted by: Doug | October 19, 2011, 3:09 am 3:09 am

Nah, that’s reserved for the lunatic lefties who spend all hours of the day posting under 100 names.

Posted by: Tex | October 19, 2011, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Yeah, the stimulus surely made a difference – the deficit is running 8 times what it was under Bush.

(and, no, OWS is not similar to the Tea Party; I don’t think I even saw a police car on television at the National Mall, much less anyone dropping trou and taking a dump on one.)

Posted by: snapperboy | October 19, 2011, 7:59 am 7:59 am

Obama commented that the Occupiers and the Tea Partiers actually were very similar and shared some of the same goals. And he is right. Tea Partiers want to keep more of the income they’ve earned. And the Occupiers also want to keep more of the income that Tea Partiers have earned.

Posted by: Joe White | October 19, 2011, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Posted by: Raven | October 18, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

I started off dirt poor as an immigrant who couldn’t even speak English and I did quite well. Who stopped you from reaching the upper income tiers?

Posted by: Chuck | October 19, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

E: “I don’t go much for labels but the political label that would most closely define me would be a liberal.”

I’d hide from your ‘label’ too. Liberals and their s o c i a l i s m isn’t very popular.

E: “I have been working since I was 15 . . . I am employed in a 40+ hour a week job plus starting my own business. Nope, I don’t have a problem with working.”

Good. Then, you shouldn’t have a problem working for yourself and your fair share of government. That means you should favor a flat tax, rather than the unfair progressive tax that we have now that forces the more successful to be taxed more for government than the less successful. Of course, that’s where your facade falls apart and where most disagree with you.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 19, 2011, 9:26 am 9:26 am

E: “The next dictator? Anonymous, there should be no dictator. That is the point. Ergo my use of the word misuse.”

Yes, dictator or group of them. I’ll say again, systems not based on freedom, that are inherently corrupt, like s.o.c.i.a.l.i.s.m, will always produce dictators and/or a ruling class. With representative democracies based on freedom, there’s no opportunity for concentration of power outside the people’s control. With freedom the people have the power, who then grant it to the government as they see fit. With s.o.c.i.a.l.i.s.m, it’s the other way around.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 19, 2011, 9:54 am 9:54 am

The President said, “we are on their side, and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded … ”

I’m sorry, isn’t that the system we have been working under for the past 235 years. It is the system that the OWS crowd and the President by his own confessions now, wants to destroy.

Posted by: Byron | October 19, 2011, 10:12 am 10:12 am

The difference between the Tea Party and OWS is that the tea party folks are demonstrating on how their tax dollars are being spent and OWS is demonstrating on how someone else’s tax dollars are spent.

Posted by: Mark Sivad | October 19, 2011, 11:12 am 11:12 am

The “Tea Party” VS “Occupy” movements??? —- 1) The Tea Party is a grass-roots movement by citizens… Occupy has liberal students and anarchists organized by unions and just told to show up… and some people actually got PAID to show up!! — 2) Tea Party had 700,000 people show up in DC… NO arrests, they picked up ALL their own trash…. “Occupy” is becoming violent, disobeys police orders and gets arrested… and they use public parks are their latrines!!! — 3) Tea Party wants to MAINTAIN a strong country based on the Constitution….. “Occupy” wants to DESTROY capitalism and the America we all know!!! — COMPARISONS are going to be made… just make sure you know the facts!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | October 19, 2011, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

“and that we want to set up a system in which hard work, responsibility, doing what you’re supposed to do, is rewarded,” Obama said. “And that people who are irresponsible, who are reckless, who don’t feel a sense of obligation to their communities and their companies and their workers that those folks aren’t rewarded.”

What are you taking about Mr. President? The system already exists and I have been working in it for the last 32 years. The “system” has allowed me to raise 4 kids and put them all through college. The “system” has rewarded me for my hard work.

It’s shameful and irresponsible of you to make such a statement

Posted by: Furious in New jersey | October 19, 2011, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Saying Occupy Wall Street protesters are like the Tea Party is an insult to all those people.

Posted by: justayreal | October 19, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Specialty…that’s just dumb. You said the election ended 3 years ago…but now it’s time to campaign for the 2012 election…Duhhhhhhh!

Posted by: justareal | October 19, 2011, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

LoyalOpposition…When you will you learn that Occupy doesn’t want to destroy Capitlalism…they want to destroy GREED…there’s a big difference. Do you know what Greed means?

Posted by: justayreal | October 19, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

I noticed a lot of right wing tea bagger types posting their usual moronic, tin foil hat wearing, John Bircher inspired “IT’S THE COMMIES!” nonsense. Nothing surprising there, I suppose they are mostly jealous that the current protests are an exotic mix of working class American’s and a large portion of young students and not crusty old trailer park trash and ignorant WASP’s that has them all upset and whiny, and the fact that the OWS haven’t been bought out and co-opted (yet?) by big money fascist corporatists like the Koch brothers—really bothers the tea baggers.

Posted by: anti-stupid | October 19, 2011, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Interesting comments.

Posted by: trying to post | October 19, 2011, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

OK, I give up trying to post a comment. I have been trying all day. I have not written anything rude, inflammatory or used any bad language yet everything gets blocked. Really not sure what your criteria is.

Posted by: e | October 19, 2011, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Obama is lying. He has done nothing but lie since he got into office and before.
He says he is listening, he says he understands- but wait- he is giving the ground rules he wants, not what the people want.
If he was truly listening, he would say “OK protestors, make an organized list of what you would like to see change and I will look at it as well as congress.” But that isn’t going to happen- THEY DON’T CARE FOLKS!

Posted by: walt | October 20, 2011, 12:33 am 12:33 am

The comparison is that both sides are idealist. The individual human no longer exists. We are all at the mercy of a handful of greedy old men who view the common folk as no more significant than a stray bit of ash they brush off their shirt.

Posted by: laura | October 20, 2011, 8:04 am 8:04 am

Finally figured out why my posts wouldn’t go through. Strange word to filter out.

anonymous,
now you are giving your own opinion about s o c i a l is m. That’s changing the subject. You are free to your opinions but that doesn’t take away from the point made. Not seeing the difference between Stalin and Marx is like not knowing the difference between aspirin and cocaine. Not sure why you are acting like we were having a conversation where I was defending so ci a lis m and you were against it. That is an assumption on your part.

“..that’s where your facade falls apart and most disagree with you.” What facade. Please quote my words to justify your comment. I am fine with someone arguing with something I state but don’t argue with me on made up arguments I never expressed.

I repeat what I stated above: Look around and observe and go talk to others. You might find those simple little narratives that you subscibe to are off base.

Posted by: e | October 20, 2011, 9:37 am 9:37 am

What the Tea Party is doing is criminal.They are sworn to represent the majority & aren`t uphold their oath to the USA

Posted by: billy dawson | October 27, 2011, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

We WANT to be separated from our government. That’s just the point. We don’t want the government involved in every aspect of our lives. But for Obama, Government is the ultimate solution to every problem Americans face. He has always been on the Government teat or someone’s teat and has no concept of self-sufficiency.

Posted by: PaulD | November 8, 2011, 5:23 am 5:23 am

ABC- it’s no wonder I don’t watch you guys anymore. Lost is the credibility you once had with Charlie Gibson and John Stossel. Thank goodness I found Stossel on Fox business! You guys just give this president a pass and you deceive yourselves.

Posted by: Corina burroughs | November 18, 2011, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Hi, I log on to your new stuff regularly. Your story-telling style is awesome, keep doing what you’re doing!

Posted by: Wei Stalberger | December 10, 2011, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

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