Boy, 8, Tells Bachmann His Gay Mommy Doesn’t Need to Be ‘Fixed’

Out of the mouths of babes…………..

Quite frankly does an 8 year old really know whats best for itself?
Posted by: Paulie | December 6, 2011, 4:47 pm.

Definitely better than a politician like Bachmann……..

The mother didn’t have the guts so she sends in her naive 8 year old to do her dirty work. Typical….

You know, I disagree with Bachman’s ultra-right win views. That being said, no 8 year old does this of his own volition. This was obviously a stunt and frankly to use your 8 year old that way is a little despicable no matter how righteous the cause.

Beaten down by an 8 year old. LOL

That little boy has a lot to be proud of!

Christine said Do you think that the kid’s going to have any different of a viewpoint on gay issues, when he becomes older? That he’s somehow going to magically transform into a bigot?

–No just probably a serial killer.

Paulie wrote: “Quite frankly does an 8 year old really know whats (sic) best for itself?”

An 8-year-old is not an it. Children are not things. They are people.

Just because you don’t think homosexuality is normal does not make you a bigot. Guess what, this is America and I have a right to my opinion too. I think homosexuality is wrong, for a man to put his penus into another man is just not normal, how much clearer does it have to be. I mean think about it, how does that even seem right. Next thing you know we will be expected to accept sex with animals as normal, I mean hey those people have feelings too, right. Geez, this world is going to hell quick with all the sexual perversions we are supposed to accept now.

I agree that gay couples should not marry. This is mainly because of my religious beliefs, but also look at biology. We were obviously created as man and woman to be together and reproduce. A woman and another woman cannot reproduce as they were born.

“For 5000 years, “marriage” has meant “a contract between one man and one woman” ~~~~~~~~ This is incorrect. In SOME places at some times in some cultures in the last 5,000 years marriage was defined this way. It certainly wasn’t the universal definition of marriage by any means. That’s why we have terms like polyandry, polygyny, polygamy, monogamy, etc…to identify the various flavors of marriage contract that exist.

Seriously “Just because you don’t think homosexuality is normal does not make you a bigot”
” Next thing you know we will be expected to accept sex with animals as normal,”—-how right you are,the senate just ;lifted the ban on sodomy and beastiality in the military. WH press secretary, Jay Carney takes a question asking what is the president’s opinion on beastiality in the military and the reporter is laughed at and the questioned not answered. America wake up! Rome fell because of the very culture that is currently being embraced, it is just a matter of time that America is no more. Berate Michele Bachman for her values and a morals, however the majority of all major religions are against this behavior. This gay mother shouldn’t put her child up to asking a question beyond his age comprehension, shame on her!.

“We were obviously created as man and woman to be together and reproduce.” ~~~~~~

Chrissy, reproduction isn’t the only function of marriage. Are you also for preventing heterosexuals who cannot reproduce with their partner (e.g. women who’ve had hysterectomies, men who’ve had vasectomies, etc.) from being allowed to legally marry? If you’d allow heterosexuals who cannot have children with their partner to marry, why would you not allow homosexuals who cannot have children with their partner to marry?

“Berate Michele Bachman for her values and a morals” ~~~~~~~~ Love that Freudian slip.

As the mother of two boys I can say that an 8 year old does know what he is talking about. The world today is much different than when we were young. My children are 15 & 11 and they both knew what gay was back in first grade. I was shocked to learn that they knew the meaning at such a young age. My husband and I discussed it with them at an age approiate level and to be respectful of people’s choices. I say the boy should be proud that he stuck up for his mother…

A human being is a human being period. What does it matter what sex a person is? What does it matter what race, color, height , weight, or whatever. If you don’t agree with it, don’t go to the wedding! The ignorance and disregard for human rights of some people in this day and age is disturbing. There will be a time when people will look back in disgust at everyone who was against anyone’s right to marry there soulmate, just as we look back in disgust that women didn’t have the right to vote and slavery and many many other ugly things in our past. For those of you that think a child is stupid and their opinions don’t matter , let me tell you could be more wrong. That is the kind of ignorance that plagues this world, your are the problem.

Shame on the mother of that 8 year old, using him in that manner! I don’t care what your view point is… you don’t use a child as a pawn!!

I wonder how many of the people objecting to the “using” of this eight year old child, also objected to Palin parading her sprogs, and sprogs of sprogs.

Douglas … repeat after me, “minority” does not mean “abnormal”. It really is not terribly difficult. Who knows what minorities you will go after next?

“Democrats have turned funerals into political conventions.”

The Westboro Christian lunatics are democrats now? Ha ha ha.

what a wonderful little boy! his mom should be proud of him!

@Whining Liberal, check out the documentary We Are Dad, about two gay men who are foster fathers to a bunch of kids.

Mystery, I hate it when prostitutes riddle my family as well. But seriously, what the heck are you talking about? Please form complete, coherent thoughts in your sentences. It is difficult to understand you when you use a stream of consciousness approach in your writing.

All you ignorant people, stop hating on Michelle Bachmann!! She addresses that every human being have the same rights, regardless of thier sexual orientation or personal preferences. Homosexuality is shunned in the Bible, and being a Christian, I stand by those beliefs that every Christian should recognize completely also. Homosexuals should still be respected as any other person would be however homosexuality does not have to be accepted. And for young kids speaking out about these issues, please close your mouths. You have no idea what you are talking about and words are just getting fed to you. There are already enough older ridiculously-minded role models that are making fools of themselves for you..

JigglyPuff: No argument would be good enough for you because you are obviously confused if you think a woman should marry a woman or a man should marry a man. Biology 101 would be my answer and if you don’t get that well I cannot help you. It is very basic and nature driven, you can take God and religion out of the equation if you want.

Gotta love how the religious right has no problem cherry-picking science (or more accurately pseudo-science) to back up their hate filled rhetoric.

Instead of instigating 8 year old about confronting, her mom should focus on his study and moral and behavior. There are many miseries in the world and much more painfull and dier than homo sexual people feel. People die without food in many countries and some folks worry about their marriage right. Terrorisim has taken people in many countries their basic right – RIGTH TO LIVE A LIFE GOD HAS GIVEN THEM. Nobody shed tears for them and these media in US is just promoting such useless story.

Seriously you all are a piece of work…The mother was scared and didn’t want to confront Bachmann.Not once when I read this whole thing did I see the mom force or get her son to do it. You all must think that he was pushed, kids do things on their own without any coaxing from adults. Get real and grow up, seriously!!!!!! On a second note Bachmann is an idiot and hmmm so do all of you.

PREPCR: “Instead of instigating 8 year old about confronting, her mom should focus on his study and moral and behavior.” – - – Clearly someone has a significant reading comprehension problem. The mother DID NOT instigate the 8 year old’s confrontation with anyone. Speaking to Bachman was HIS idea AFTER his mother changed her mind. HE CHOSE to instigate speaking to Bachman. Learn to friggin read.

Mrs Field, so your tooth fairy told you gay people are wrong?

That’s how that conversation would have gone with me.

I find it interesting that most of the comments are about how the mother coerced the boy to talk to Michele Bachmann, yet the article clearly states that it was the boy who insisted they stay to talk to Bachmann. Also, I don’t find you people messaging the Westboro Baptist Church for including children in their protests.

Most gay people would be shocked at the kind of things straight people do behind closed doors. Just use your imagination.

to simple observer – while homosexuality is shunned in the bible, which indicates you should shun it, slavery and multiple wives was permitted. DOes that mean you should own slaves and have multiple spouses??

I’m pro-civil union. I just don’t want to use 8 year olds to make my point. And anyone who doesn’t think this was staged is naive. I don’t care what the heck Sarah Palin and her room temp I.Q. did. I prefer to hold my side of a debate to a higher standard. Using the “other side is doing it” argument is weak.

This is awesome! Bachmann is a nutjob, obviously, and to see her schooled by an 8-year-old says it all.

Rik Alen, sure, and black is white.

Well, as for gay marriage, God told ME last night that it’s okay with him.

I’ve an idea, Seriously. Don’t use the straw-man rhetorical argument when you’re only going to stumble over it. First – you can check out Deut. 25:5-6 for a discussion of Levirate Marriage, which you claim to know not of. And if you’re stuck on the Old Covenant / New Covenant argument you’ll likely fail there as well if you take a more enlightened reading of Paul and throw some CONTEXT on the homosexual people (greek orgy and pedophilia — about as far removed from the topic as you can get) and he would have encountered 2000 years ago vs. the committed couples of modern times. How much you want to wager that an appropriate reading would show that ancient Jewish prejudice carried over into Paul. Gee, I do know what I’m talking about – we just disagree on the interpretation.

Seriously, granted I haven’t reread the Bible in a while, but if you are saying the Old Testament doesn’t count, and only the New Testament does, I don’t think there are any references to gays in it. In searching the net, I can’t find any references within the New Testament against gays. Do you know of any?
I think the entire gay marriage controversy centers around a lot of confusion. Some folks are confused about gays, thinking they have chosen to be gay, rather than the scientific and common sense view that they are born that way. They can’t stop being attracted to the same sex in the same way that a straight person can’t change being attracted to the opposite sex. Understanding that they can’t change their attraction, why shouldn’t they be allowed to marry the adult they are in love with? Just like straight people can.

“Homosexuality is shunned in the Bible, and being a Christian, I stand by those beliefs that every Christian should recognize completely also. Homosexuals should still be respected as any other person would be however homosexuality does not have to be accepted” ~~~~~~~~~ So, why should everybody ELSE recognize what you and your fellow religionists shun and codify those things YOUR in-group shuns into laws binding on everybody? Seventh Day Adventists shun the eating of meat and stand by those beliefs. The eating of meat doesn’t have to be accepted. Are you for implementing a law that prohibits all the rest of us from eating meat? Do the 7DA get to tell you you’re not allowed to eat meat because they shun the practice? Jehovah’s Witnesses shun blood transfusions and cite their interpretation of their holy book to justify it. Should we all be forced by law to be unable to get transfusions just because THEY find them against their religious beliefs? The problem here isn’t what your religious group likes or doesn’t like. It’s your attempt to legislate your preferences onto the rest of the country, as if we all are somehow mandated to stay within the boundaries your religious group chooses.

Librarian53 – you asked if there are any references in the New Testament regarding homosexuality. Just read Romans 1. It discusses women exchanging natural relations that are contrary to nature and the men likewise exchanging relations with woman and were consumed with passion for one another-men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. So, what is the due penalty for their error? People claim that gays can be determined scientifically yet there is no study that lines up 100 people claiming to be gay, straight, and bi in which the study can determine the outcome. The truth is is that everyone is prone to sexual deviance because our bodies are sin so we must flee to what is Godly and this is called repentance.

Christians, if you do not like homosexuality the solution is simple.

Don’t have sex with your own gender.

Otherwise, butt out.

Even an 8 year old understands that it is wrong for others to judge and want to deny another American’s way of life and liberty to choose. Bachmann and her husband are ignorant and unintelligent people. The eight old probably sticks-up for his mother a lot and gets picked on for having a gay mom because some American’s are ignorant and blind due to their religious beliefs and lack tolerance for those that disagree or believe differently.

“I don’t believe in the Bible, so why should it control my sexuality?”

“Yes, but the Bible says ….”

Give me a break.

preppcr, to me YOUR behavior is not acceptable. Funny how that works. And your message seems to be that because we are not Pakistan gay people should have no rights. Logic much?

BT, seriously, that is really sad if you believe ‘our bodies are sin’.
I find it easier to believe that God gave us bodies temporarily to enjoy our senses with and do good works for our families and others. I believe in God but not the wrathful, vengeful, wanting to be worshiped all the time, my way or the highway kind that too many religions Him/Her to be portray. But just as I don’t try to declare my beliefs about God should be followed by everyone else, others shouldn’t demand that theirs are the only correct one.
So why shouldn’t gay people be allowed to marry the one that they love, just as straight people can, if the only reason is some people’s religious beliefs. Our country is famous for religious freedom, after all.

Derek Wain, allowing gay marriage does not logically lead to polygamy.
Marriage is between two adults, and our laws clearly state that no one can be in more than one marriage at a time. Gays marrying would be following those same rules.
I remember the last time I heard ‘this will lead to polygamy’. It was when racist people were objecting to inter-racial marriage!

Since Sex seems to be the major problem with MB what if the gay couple that wants to get Married promises not to have Sex. I am sure there are a lot of sexless Couples that are married.

Gays can get married in all 50 states, if it is that important to them. They just are not recognized by the state, and why is that so important to them if it is all about love?

The population of the earth is now around 7 billion people, and growing rapidly..Most people would agree, that number is about 3 billion beyond what the finite resources of this planet can sustain indefinitely.. If everyone who could reproduce–did.. then that population would grow that much faster. Since homosexuality has been with us since the beginning in both humans and other animals, I suspect that the grand designer (if you will), injects this wildcard into the mix to curb population periodicity. For the republicans, (who up until recently stood for moral principles) this may be difficult to shallow..(so to speak) but once they realize that for some reason these people grow up and earn and spend more than straight people– they will be fine with what ever trip their trigger.

Poor kid. He whispered because he didn’t believe what he was saying.

I’m gay and I’m offended by this mother’s prompting of her son to say something that he clearly did not want to say out loud. Hello, folks, leave your children out of politics, please!

I dislike Bachmann intensely.

I dislike homophobia intensely.

But this IS a cheap stunt and it is blatant manipulation of the kid. The mother is, in no way, “afraid” to speak. She is pushing him into it.

That said, Bachmann is shown in her true loathsomeness and stupidity in the other video referenced in this article

Bachmann you are a uneducated ignorant American, your death will be the cherry on my cake! I just hope I get to be the emt responder to your side and allow you to die because your religion violates mine!

Posted by: Thomas Alex | December 7, 2011, 1:35 am 1:35 am
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ABC “News” censors will delete posts criticizing oBama but they leave a post in like this openly advocating for the death of Michelle Bachmann. Thanks for openly confirming your wacko-left-wing bias and also for showing the wacko-left-wingers for the lunatics that they really are.

For those saying that because for years marriage meant man + woman, what about the years that marriage meant that couples couldn’t cross racial “lines”? What about laws that didn’t allow certain individuals to officially marry and receive the benefits afforded to others who married (e.g., slaves). Laws can change to reflect the will of the people, For exampe, the Pledge of Allegiance didn’t always have “One Nation Under God” either, and I’m not saying that because it didn’t this version is somehow reprehensible or immoral. Voting didn’t always mean “blacks could vote” or “women could vote.” Schooling meant segregated schools. Hopefully, laws reflect our growing awareness of what is fair and right, not what must always be. If your “morality” is such that you cannot sanction two loving people benefiting from the same laws that provide rights to others, then at least admit that this would be the logical conclusion from saying that two loving people of any gender cannot marry, just as blacks and whites for years had to live together with private ceremonies of commitment without receiving the same benefits two people of the same race could receive. And if you don’t think an 8-year-old child of a loving couple can appreciate that, you haven’t been around too many 8-year-olds.

I have an 8 year old nephew who is articulate and independent of thinking as any 13 year old. If you raise your child to be a free thinker and teach him how to deduce situations on their own and discuss it with them it is possible to have a child that would defend his mother. I know that even at the age of 5 if a child see’s his parent being attacked they will do whatever they can to protect and save their parent. Adults really don’t give children of this modern and advanced age enough credit. Guarenteed this kids are probably a lot smarter than their parents were at that age because of all the developements we’ve had in technology and science. I applaud this young man child for being someone who will grow up loving not hating, searching for truth and not just accepting something just because.

“MIchelle Shu”, you seem to have missed the posts from the right wingers consigning gay people and their supporters to hell.

Selective vision?

This is actually relevant to the discussion: can you explain what kind of fruit Adam and Eve ate in the story? After thousands of years it’s time to think, read, and give the real explanation based only on the facts in the story. No guesses, opinions, or beliefs. We’ve already had way too many of these. Treat the whole thing as a challenge. You can do it! Or can you? But first, do a quick Google search: First Scandal.

Mike, most likely she had a bad breakup with her partner and remains bitter.

But what’s YOUR issue with her living her own life?

Martin, while I respect your input, I have to say that you couldn’t be more wrong, particularly when it comes to what happened with us. Just to be clear, my mother and I are very close and have been all through the years. It had nothing to do with inauthenticity… believe me, she was very deep into the lifestyle. “Accepting” her was never the issue, either. She came to her OWN conclusion that while the feelings were there, the lifestyle she chose was a mistake. And nobody convinced her of it. She just finally had enough of the pain that her lifestyle was causing her. She feels she’s relieved of the pain by having removed herself from it all. And now I even have to remind her to have compassion toward lesbians, today. In either case, it was a painful part of her life and a painful childhood for me.

There’s no self-loathing. Just a recognition that it wasn’t the best situation to be in, as a family.

Mike, either the pain came from the person with whom she was in the relationship, OR it came from being uncomfortable with social condemnation and possibly familial rejection, OR it came from the fact that she was not comfortable with her life (which is, by definition, inauthentic living.)

None of those things, except the social condemnation, is exclusive to same-sex relationships.

You can have intense feelings for members of the same sex, but if you don’t LIKE the physical component, you won’t be turned on by it. Blaming “gay propaganda” for your decisions is a cop out.

Incidentally, I am a straight man, and no amount of propaganda is going to make me have a stronger physical response to Johnny Depp than to Scarlett Johanssen, much as I admire Mr Depp’s acting.

Gotta say I’m a bit suspicious about someone who claims to have lived in a gay environment, and been accepting, and comes out with trigger words like “gay lifestyle”.

Uh oh.

“LGBT agenda”.

Another conservative trigger expression. Jesus next?

*sigh* Once again, I seem to be trying to speak with people who refuse to listen to any view point other than their own. Yet another example of why it’s so hard to work together. It was worth a try, I guess. Perhaps there are some people here that want to have a discussion, rather than a bash-fest. I’m sensing more of the bash-fest here. Thus my comment earlier. Happy Holidays folks.

I cannot believe the amount of people here who actually believe that an 8 year old follows politics so closely that he feels it neccessary to voice his own, strong convictions against a politician who’s veiws he has been following and he disagrees with. How about this…I will accept this form of parenting as “OK” when you show me a conservative or republican who has their 8 year old children march up to Barney Frank and announce that homosexuals are sinners. Somehow…I don’t expect this to happen because conservatives have a lot more class.

@CHRISSIE

Biology proves that sexual orientation is an immutable characteristic. Biology applies equally. If Gays were not born that way, then nor were straights. Only religion discriminates, science does not.

Let’s get this straight, people. There is marriage, there is sex and their is procreation. They have little to do with one another. People can (and do) procreate without having sex. People have sex (lots of it!) with no intention whatsoever of procreating. And marriage is primarily about the passing of property between people who consider themselves family, without the expense and inconvenience of probate. If I want to marry someone of the same gender, please do not presume that I am necessarily sticking something somewhere you believe it doesn’t belong. I’ll give you a dollar for every person out of 100 randomly chosen people who ONLY stick “tab A” in “slot B”. Intimate relations are none of your business, nor are they any of mine. And government has no place in the regulation thereof–except in the case of minors who are incapable of making an informed adult choice and, of course, Jerry Sandusky.

After veiwing the entire video it is clear that this boy is being forced to do this. And alyhough I too feel that marriage is between man & woman only…I don’t care how this mom chooses to live her life. However, no child, whether he has straight or gay parents, should be forced to do his parents biding in this manner. He is only 8! He cannot gully grasp this very emotional subject. Dirty…very dirty way to make her point.