Comments on: Glimmers of Hope in the Senate: Renewed Optimism on Payroll-Tax Cut Deal http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/ The latest Politics news and blog posts from ABC News contributors and bloggers including Jake Tapper, George Stephanopoulos and more. Fri, 24 May 2013 22:15:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: john locke http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11707252 john locke Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:41:32 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11707252 Here's a better idea: Cut the federal payroll in half and use the money to pay down the debt. Here’s a better idea: Cut the federal payroll in half and use the money to pay down the debt.

]]> By: RalphF http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11694112 RalphF Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:21:45 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11694112 What is needed is to replace the "999" symbol with "%" -- has everyone in Washington forgotten what a percentage represents? Why are they hung up on this group paying this much and that group not paying, etc, etc, etc? Establish a percentage and have EVERYONE pay that. That's FAIR. Everyone pays the same percentage. I read somewhere that 47% of the American taxpayers do not pay any income tax. Has everyone forgotten what our founding fathers wrote? "..All men are created equal..." and all men should pay a fair income tax. No one should pay more or less or none. Establishing a % is the only fair way to do it. And if anyone argues that isn't fair, you need to go back to school and re-learn math!! What is needed is to replace the “999″ symbol with “%” — has everyone in Washington forgotten what a percentage represents? Why are they hung up on this group paying this much and that group not paying, etc, etc, etc? Establish a percentage and have EVERYONE pay that. That’s FAIR. Everyone pays the same percentage. I read somewhere that 47% of the American taxpayers do not pay any income tax. Has everyone forgotten what our founding fathers wrote? “..All men are created equal…” and all men should pay a fair income tax. No one should pay more or less or none. Establishing a % is the only fair way to do it. And if anyone argues that isn’t fair, you need to go back to school and re-learn math!!

]]> By: Bob http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11682072 Bob Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:25:34 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11682072 The one and only reason the GOP is even at the table right now is that they'll be on the losing end of this mess if they allow the Payroll Tax rate to return to its normal level. They'll be painted as the biggest hypocrites in the world ("We need to keep the Bush Tax Cuts") AND come across as only caring about the 1% ("We need to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich"). Just get it done without any of the amendment and posturing nonsense. The one and only reason the GOP is even at the table right now is that they’ll be on the losing end of this mess if they allow the Payroll Tax rate to return to its normal level. They’ll be painted as the biggest hypocrites in the world (“We need to keep the Bush Tax Cuts”) AND come across as only caring about the 1% (“We need to keep the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich”). Just get it done without any of the amendment and posturing nonsense.

]]> By: Greggw http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11679982 Greggw Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:03:37 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11679982 Posted by: deanbob | December 15, 2011, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm "But the administration gets to pick who the winners will be. Its all about the power!" ********************** No, the administration wanted the losers to be millionaires who would have to pay a tax. Instead, Republicans what the civil service to have to pay with a continued pay freeze and increase in what we pay for our retirement system. I serve my country, I shouldn't be victimized for that. Posted by: deanbob | December 15, 2011, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm “But the administration gets to pick who the winners will be. Its all about the power!” ********************** No, the administration wanted the losers to be millionaires who would have to pay a tax. Instead, Republicans what the civil service to have to pay with a continued pay freeze and increase in what we pay for our retirement system. I serve my country, I shouldn’t be victimized for that.

]]> By: deanbob http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11678682 deanbob Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:52:02 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11678682 NEWCOUNTRYMAN | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:23 PM .......Could the president be making a stab at leadership - or just realizes the losing proposition of his current stance? ......anyone else get the 'slow down ABC msg preventing you from posting (what seems like) more than 1 post an hour? NEWCOUNTRYMAN | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:23 PM …….Could the president be making a stab at leadership – or just realizes the losing proposition of his current stance? ……anyone else get the ‘slow down ABC msg preventing you from posting (what seems like) more than 1 post an hour?

]]> By: foggy http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11677192 foggy Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:39:02 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11677192 The class warriors are looking like Charlie Brown again as president Lucy pulls back his pathetic little 20 billion a yr surtax on millionaires. Meanwhile it's a win-win for Barry. He gets to destroy social security and he gets to demagogue republicans. The class warriors are looking like Charlie Brown again as president Lucy pulls back his pathetic little 20 billion a yr surtax on millionaires.

Meanwhile it’s a win-win for Barry. He gets to destroy social security and he gets to demagogue republicans.

]]> By: newcountryman http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11675462 newcountryman Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:23:57 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11675462 Could it be Barry and Harry have had a conversation? Could it be Barry and Harry have had a conversation?

]]> By: deanbob http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11674292 deanbob Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:15:03 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11674292 GREGGW | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:00 PM....."Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending,".......But this administration gets to pick the winners! Its all about the power. GREGGW | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:00 PM…..”Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending,”…….But this administration gets to pick the winners! Its all about the power.

]]> By: deanbob http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11674042 deanbob Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:12:53 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11674042 GREGGW | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:00 PM ...."Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending, "......But the administration gets to pick who the winners will be. Its all about the power! GREGGW | DECEMBER 15, 2011, 12:00 PM ….”Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending, “……But the administration gets to pick who the winners will be. Its all about the power!

]]> By: Greggw http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/glimmers-of-hope-in-the-senate-renewed-optimism-on-payroll-tax-cut-deal/#comment-11672632 Greggw Thu, 15 Dec 2011 17:00:05 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=282812#comment-11672632 The Democrats appear to have given up on getting millionaires to pay for the payroll tax holiday extension, which means that the civil servants will have to pay for it. Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending, so this proposal will not stimulate the economy. Also, I am would be taxed by this proposal to help pay for Social Security, but I am not paying into Social Security and I will not collect from Social Security, so it is doubly unfair to me. The Democrats appear to have given up on getting millionaires to pay for the payroll tax holiday extension, which means that the civil servants will have to pay for it. Giving one group of middle class Americans a whole lot less to spend to give another group of middle class Americans a little more to sopend does not result in a net increase in spending, so this proposal will not stimulate the economy. Also, I am would be taxed by this proposal to help pay for Social Security, but I am not paying into Social Security and I will not collect from Social Security, so it is doubly unfair to me.

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