Senate Stalls on House-Passed Payroll Tax Bill

One of the few bills passed by either house of Congress which ACTUALLY CREATES REAL JOBS (along with helping secure America’s energy independence from middle-east muslims) – and dingy harry reid REFUSES to let the Senate consider it and OBOZO-the-Clown commits to vetoing it ! Of course, who could be surprised at that?

Good old Harry…when it comes to stonewalling for political purposes, he cannot be beat! THANKS NEVADA….you sent him back…why not send him home?

“Reid’s strategy has been to push a vote on the payroll tax plan first, by tying it to the spending bill that needs to be passed before the federal government runs out of money this Friday…..” Oh heavens! There they go again……tying bills together to get what they want! I thought only the Republicans pulled this sort of thing?

The left just moans and groans about the pipe line deal on this bill. However they say not one word about why are student loans, gold coins etc on the Obamacare bill. Is it so they can control who gets the loans and who can own gold? Is this another government take over? Why was it hidden in this useless law then?Hopefully the SC will throw the whole thing out.

Good for Harry Reid.

If the republicans want to debate the merits of this pipeline let them do it on their own time, introduce a bill of their own or put it in on the jobs bills already introduced, don’t try to attach it to this critical tax reduction bill. If the republicans want to hold this tax reduction bill up because of some pie in the sky pipeline project, let them explain it to the America n people.

The republicans need to read more Machiavelli and less Wealth of Nations, they might learn how to disguise their tactics more.

I feel bad for Hairy Reid.
Covering Barry’s back is getting harder and harder.
Everyone is getting the feeling that Reid won’t be able to hold up much longer.

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What, by tying it to the budget. This bill is about taxes and revenues so it fits, not a proposed pipeline project that if passed won’t create job one for at least two years if any at all and won’t pay for the tax reduction.

If the republicans think it will create jobs then tack it on or introduce a jobs bill and give each side time to debate. You and I can argue about the pipeline for months, the problem is tax time is approaching rapidly; Americans don’t have the time to wait while the republicans try to derail the tax reduction plan.

Newcountryman, like I said some people on here would run to Walmart and buy a flashlight if Obam said the sun would not come up tomorrow. They believe every thing a support everything he does. Even after all the sandals, Solyndra, fast and furious, small pocks vaccine, closed door meetings, dirty deals and bribes. Sad.

Remove the Pipeline legislation from the bill then vote UP or DOWN. John Boehner should bow his head in SHAME!

What happened to the republicans filibustering over the pipeline, in exchange for unemployment benefits, and help for the poor. (the other 99 %)

GOP is showing their desperation to use these tactics. Not that Dem’s are above it, but it’s so blatantly transparent that all they want to do is feed Obama and the middle class some bad clams. Save those clams for the GOP’s clambake in November. They’ll be needing a better health care bill after they get done eating them.

Whether it’s fair or not, another government shut down is going to look like it was caused by Republicans, and they will continue to take a hit in their Senate and Congressial districts nationwide, not to mention the void that exists where a decent Republican candidate should be. Good luck with the stall, and start packing.

“Not that Dem’s are above it, but it’s so blatantly transparent that all they want to do is feed Obama and the middle class some bad clams.”

So all I have to do is hide any negative behavior a bit better and you’ll be cool with it? Deal!

“decent Republican candidate” — like the Easter bunny, this doesn’t exist…and before you Dems start laughing, it doesn’t exist for any Democrat either…both parties are filled with corrupt people…

All I know is President Obama (and President George Bush) want to give me a $1500 dollar tax break next year that I and millions of other Americans can use. The president wants to extend this cut to 160,000 small businesses that might use it to hire workers.

The republicans oppose this because taxes on millionaires will go up 1.9% on their income over a million dollars to pay for it, poor them.

What is there to discuss?

Obama said the “payroll tax cut” would create jobs. Seems like the pipeline would too. But probably not enough for the whiners.

Sea, what would you call them then? Posted by: specialty57 | December 14, 2011, 2:46 pm.

Oh give me a freakin’ break. It’s called POLITICS. Y’all ride Obama, and beat him like a red-headed stepchild, for engaging in POLITICS. The EXACT same politics your Party has perfected over the years. The Republican Party has refused, since the day Obama took office, to admit to themselves that THEY are NOT in charge anymore! They have refused to deal, they have refused to compromise, and they have deliberately grid-locked our Congress, and thus our ability to create policy to deal with issues of national importance. They WANT Obama to fail, and the way they are going about is hurting the nation. And they don’t give a damn…….

The Senate appears to have been “stalled” for the past year now. Damned Republicans!

How about this one? Just today the Senate defeated each party’s version of a constitutional amendment that would have required a balanced federal budget. The rival proposals would have prohibited Congress from spending more each year than it receives in revenue. Both fell well short of the two-thirds majority needed to send them to the states for ratification. I’m beginning to wonder what they even do.

“hide any negative behavior a bit better”? No, but it would be in your best interest if you’re going to do bad behavior to hide it successfully since if you don’t you will need to suffer the consequences. Not you, of course, just following your premise. Whoever does bad behavior pays if caught. It happens on both sides in Congress and around the rest of the world.

GOP is attempting to hide their attack on Obama and the middle class by saying their pipeline will create jobs. The gulf oil spill created jobs too. Was that their idea of a jobs plan?

Just today the Senate defeated each party’s version of a constitutional amendment that would have required a balanced federal budget.
Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 3:39 pm.

Good for them, that’s the first smart thing they’ve done in a while. A balanced budget amendment would be a huge, terrible mistake. And it could easily be used to RAISE taxes by a LOT. Because there is no way it would ever get passed with wording that required the balancing be done purely by cutting spending………..

I think a constitutional amendment to balance the budget except in an emergency voted on by a 2/3 majority is critically important to our future. And Sea, since when are you a tax limit proponent?

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The middle class will spend the $1500 on goods and services made here in the USA (if ABC has its way). It will put billions into the economy that sorely needs it and will create thousands of jobs.

The pipeline is a jobs bill and should be introduced as such. If it can be proven that it will create a significant number of jobs and is just not a benefit to the oil companies, I’m all for it.

The real answer is a pipeline from Siberia to Alaska. The Russians have the largest oil reserves in the world. They will sell it to us for approximately half of what we pay for mid east oil. The problem is the Russians want to develop their fields themselves and not let Exxon, Shell, BP in on it, so we do nothing. This pipeline will create hundreds of thousands of jobs and lower the price of gasoline which will really help our economy.

I think a constitutional amendment to balance the budget except in an emergency voted on by a 2/3 majority is critically important to our future. And Sea, since when are you a tax limit proponent? Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 3:48 pm.

LOL! I hate paying taxes as much as everyone else hates paying taxes. But I recognize why we need to pay taxes. Republicans often seem to feel we shouldn’t pay any taxes, period. Like Michelle Bachmann said a couple months ago. That’s stupid and short-sighted. Think about it. There are THREE ways to balance a budget. Cut spending until it matches current revenue. Increase revenues to match current spending amounts. Or, cut SOME spending and increase SOME revenue until they balance out. Requiring the federal budget to be balanced every year would HAVE to include a combination of cuts and tax increases. People a lot smarter than you and me agree on this. Do you see any Republicans supporting this, knowing they might have to violate their Grover Norquist pledge? Remember, a balanced budget amendment doesn’t necessarily affect spending levels, or even stop federal government expansion. All it does is require that the amount spent is the same as the amount received…..

DId I read this right: “But Senate Minority Leader McConnell objected to voting on the House Republicans bill, arguing that Congress should vote on the most pressing issue with the nearest deadline first, the appropriations bill.

“Let’s deal first with the deadline that happens this Friday, two days from now,” McConnell responded on the Senate floor, “fund the government through the rest of the fiscal year, and then turn immediately to the payroll tax extension that expires later in January” So Reid wants to hold a vote but MCCONNELL doesn’t becasue Reid knows it will not pass …. and so does McConnell.

Being a Republican myself, who tired of the way the party was heading in 2008 and did not want McCain in office I sought for “The Change”. The only change I have seen is a President who is not in touch with the “True American” ways. Congress and Senate have lost touch with the general American public and only hear the voices of the Lobbyist and Special Interest Groups who line their pockets. More than 3/4 of our Congress and Senate are millionaires, so why would those of us who work for a living ever expect that they actually care about the public anymore? It is sad to see that the United States of America is so divided now and the laughing stock to the world around us.

The republicans are desperate and don’t care if America see them for who they truly are, panders to the rich and foe to the working classes!