Winners and Losers In Final Iowa Debate Before Iowa Caucus

Paul looked like a frontrunner? He looks and acts more like the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving whenever he gets some tough questions, especially on foreign policy. Finally someone asked him to explain his stance on voting against earmarks all the while taking home the largesse, his answer ‘well I am not the thief but nothing wrong with dividing the spoils’. Shouting from the rooftops for 30 years is not a record of accomplishment as much as I admire his views on the Fed and the economy.

Ron Paul did an excellent job of explaining the earmarks question. His district pays out and it’s his job to bring some of that money back to his constituency. It’s pretty simple. He didn’t create that whackie system, but in order to be fair to the people he represents, he has to play the earmarks game. Michelle Bachman is calling for the immediate bombing of Iran and then calls Ron Paul’s policy dangerous. Is that an oxymorn? Then she has the audacity to announce that she’s the peace candidate. Imagine her with her finger on the button in the middle of the night during a PMS attack. One hot flash and boom WWIII

@Forrest Gump
Uhh, every single congressman does that when it is viable and if there district needs funding for something, what is the problem? They all do it. Stop trying to make him out to be piece the garbage that Newt is, please? Everything this man every voted for was in the best interest of the people. Never to raise the debt ceiling, never to raise taxes, never for ridiculous trade treaties like NAFTA and GATT, WTO, etc. When he was a doctor and delivering babies, he never once even asked for payment if they couldnt afford it, and had they pay him back with stuff like a dinner or whatever. He requires he also be payed just 39k as president (the average american salary). So please, give it up. The man has no dirt and it’s pathetic when people try making things up or taking things out of context.

Please explain why these presentations are called ‘debates’. I would like to have Democrats and Republicans dicussing questions and proposing arguments.

One thing about the general public is that we’ll elect just about anybody try to be president. We also fall for rhetoric and good speeches. We honestly believed in Obama and let him be put to the task. Unfortunately for many, things are worse for them today than they were in 2008. That is going to be the deciding factor in re-electing Obama.

DARY: The only thing I would add would be integrity or corruption.

War, death and corruption, or peace, prosperity and integrity

Ron Paul!

You mean the farce is over?? YESSSSSSS!!!!

All of the candidates on the stage last night were presidential. Any one of them would be a much needed improvement from what we have now.

When the attention is turned toward Obama’s record, that is when this moves from being a campaign to being a slaughter. Four hundred and some odd electoral votes for whomever runs against Obama. I know I’m kind of being generous giving Obama roughly a hundred, but there are some states that are that foolish.

@Forest Gump — don’t forget the 8th and BIGGEST clown: YOUR president. What a chump you are!

Romney=My, me, mine, me, me, me. Perry+My, me, mine, me, me, me. Bachman=My, me, mine, me, me, me. Santorum=My, me, mine, me, me, me. Gingrich=My, me, mine, me, me, me. Paul=My, me, mine, me, me, me. Huntsman=Who knows because they won’t let him talk.

Gingrich gave a frank explanation of Obama’s willingness to sacrifice American jobs and energy security purely to help his own reelection chances by postponing the Keystone Pipeline decision. Posted by: Logicsgood5 | December 16, 2011, 7:39 am.

LOL! You idiots touting this pipeline deal as the ‘great savior of America’ are as clueless as the morons on stage in Iowa last night. A Canadian company wants to create less than 5000 jobs – and no guarantee that they will hire US workers – to pipe their dirty tar sands oil to the Gulf, have it refined, and then sell it on the world market just like all the other refined product that goes out of the Gulf. This will do nothing for US energy independence, this will not lower the price of gasoline at the pump by one penny, and the big winners in all of this is TransCanada and Big Oil. And you sheep on the Right lap up the Rush Limbaugh lies about this and think that THIS project is the cure-all for America. Did you ever bother to even ASK why they want to pipe this stuff across the USA, when they have over a dozen refineries right there in Canada? Refineries that are closer to the tar sands than the Gulf of Mexico? No, of course you didn’t. I swear, the Right Wing is literally getting dumber and dumber every single day……….

Saw last night on TV where Glenn Beck said the only candidate he could not support for the presidency is Newt Gingrich…………………..

SEARAMBLER | DECEMBER 16, 2011, 9:07….Do you honestly believe 5000 can build a pipeline from Canada to Texas (in the time projected timeframe)? Are against the possibility of at an absolute minimum of 5000 people getting jobs to build a pipeline? What do you do to earn your living?

Where’s the story that the Supreme Court will hear next month during oral arguments in the case of Sackett v. Environmental Protection Agency. At issue is the EPA’s enforcement of the Clean Water Act through so-called administrative compliance orders, which are government commands that allow the agency to control the use of private property without the annoyance of having to subject its actions to judicial review.

Wow, imagine that, Glenn Beck has an opinion and searambler posts it as if he isn’t allowed one.

Why oh why would anyone vote to continue what we have now? My life has turned upside down and has gotten much worse than it ever has the last three years. Save your rhetoric. The republicans have nothing to do with it. This one is all on the democrats and Obama.

I thought Romney hit every question out of the ball park. I think his business experience is just what we need to deal with this debt. He has my vote.

Romney was NOT “cool calm and collected”! Stuttering over his words, always looked like he had to go to the bathroom.. I turned to my wife at one point and said Romney’s biggest problem is he looks like he’s just annoyed, nervous and scared. HOW did ABC come up with Romney as “cool, calm, and collected” is deeply mistifying!

I did not see the debate last nite, I can only imagine that the indefinite detention
of U.S. citizens by the Military was not brought up. When Obama signs the defense
bill this becomes law. Obama goes down in History as the person doing enormous
damage to the rule of law, according to Kenneth Roth of human rights watch.
Even the ACLU have expressed outrage over this. Nothing new to this President
who is using the EPA to hurt American business, blocks the Keystone Pipeline as
he rules over the country, that this year will have the highest yearly average gas price on record. Most citizens receiving food stamps, and 1 of 2 citizens living in
poverty according to U.S. census.

SEARAMBLER | DECEMBER 16, 2011, 9:07…. Do you honestly believe 5000 can build a pipeline from Canada to Texas (in the time projected time frame)? Are against the possibility of at an absolute minimum of 5000 people getting jobs to build a pipeline? What do you do to earn your living?
Posted by: deanbob | December 16, 2011, 9:28 am.

In the 2008 paperwork filing by TransCanada itself, they stated they would need between 3500 and 4200 pipeline workers. Their projections, not mine. They did NOT say they would hire US workers exclusively. For their Keystone 1 pipeline in South Dakota, only 11% of the workers they hired were from South Dakota.

No, I am not against ANY hiring. But the Republicans have deliberately turned this into yet another wedge issue by attaching it to the payroll tax reduction extension bill. They KNOW Obama isn’t ready to sign off on the project because of lingering environmental concerns. He flat out TOLD them this. So what did they do? Attach it to a bill that directly affects 160 million working Americans. They are deliberately trying to make Obama choose this project over the objections of some of his Liberal base. The Republicans have blown this ONE project into a fight, on purpose, simply because they know that Obama isn’t ready to sign off on it yet. And what about the other points I raised? WHY is TransCanada wanting to pipe their dirty tar sands oil across the USA and not across Canada? They have their own refineries in Canada. Closer to the tar sands areas. Why don’t they want that stuff flowing across their own country?

I had a chance to watch the debate. Ron Paul was in command of the debate. I was on the fence but he has convienced me that he the only candidate that will end the wars and bring our soldiers home where they belong.