With Reservations, Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

‘Reservations’? ‘Reservations’? The next progressive who tells me he is a ‘constitutional scholar’ had better watch out.

He has no right to sign this and Congress had no right to pass it. This is unspeakable.

*sighing*

This is beyond scary now. Obama has truly turned into a Tyrannical Dictator.

One more reason to dump this man from the White House. We also need to get rid of all the sponsors and legislators who passed this bill.

With all due respect, a very bad move, Mr. President.

Are there any presidential candidates besides Ron Paul that would have vetoed the bill?

The article is wrong. The final bill excludes citizens and permanent residents from indefinite detention. People keep going by the bill the Senate passed, not the one that came out of conference.

While this is a terrible law that Congress passed…. and I am deeply disappointed that the President is signing it. Don’t fool yourself into think that Perry, Romney, Bachmann, Santorum, or Gingrich would have done it differently. The only candidate that might not sign something like this is Ron Paul, and the GOP establishment is hellbent on taking him apart with a pair of pliers. Honestly, we have been living under this kind of law for a decade now. Though, I am glad that Republicans are waking up to the grim implications of the Bush Administration and the legacy of their authoritarian inclinations. I always warned my Republican friends that they would live to regret supporting Bush policies…. that it was only a matter of time, probably in the context of partisan paranoia, and they would bristle at the laws they erected. Now, the time has come for them to sleep in the bed they have made for us all… and they are STILL too thick to see just what their legacy is. The same people who froth at the ACLU for being unamerican are now parroting the very arguments that the ACLU has been making for years…. The same people that oppose “liberal” judges for being soft on terror and crime…. The same people that lecture everyone on the Constitution while blaming Obama for Legislative acts that originate in Congress…. You folks need to wake up and pay attention to the Representatives that YOU elected, instead of simply begging for the right to control more branches of the government.

I am actually frightened that Obama may get 4 more years.

Much ado about nothing. When did Republicans go soft on terrorism? They applauded when GW signed similar legislation. If you are not a terrorist, you don’t have to worry. If you are, you don’t really care about some stupid law. Either way, much ado about nothing.

If only he would sign that for his ILLEGALS.

“Current law empowers the military to detain people caught on the battlefield, but this provision would expand the battlefield to include the United States…”

I thought that expansion was forced onto us on Sept 11, 2001. Since ‘the war on terror’ is so vague to begin with, why WOULDN’T it include US soil?

Cynic; What part of “unlimited detention of American citizens without charges” don’t you understand?

For the last month I have been posting ndaa 1031 indefinite detention without
trial. There is C-span video of this debate, human rights watch, ACLU,and the list goes
on. If he was not for it, all he had to do would be VETO IT. HE signed it. Story over,
just like most of our rights. And in the New Year his EPA will start it’s war on American
business. Anyone doubting this should Google EPA and Portland cement. I have seen
enough of this already, this man needs to go!

We do not need a new election. Obama proves himself to be a closet Republican, over and over again.

Oh boy! Could you imagine the uproar if Bush did this? But as always, the Left will find a way to say it’s all good and necessary.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 31, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Why did the Republican majority House pass this?

Obama has truly turned into a Tyrannical Dictator.

Posted by: sharky | December 31, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Why did the Republican majority House pass this legislation?

The worst thing Obama has done. I so don’t agree with this.

The article is wrong. The final bill excludes citizens and permanent residents from indefinite detention. People keep going by the bill the Senate passed, not the one that came out of conference.

Posted by: Meredith | December 31, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
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I hope you’re right.

ndaa section 1031 Google it and you will know what was just signed.
A veto would have stopped it.

This is yet another dangerous step… On paar with the so-called “Patriot Act”. Things aren’t looking good for the average citizen people! I think I can say with certainty that my children will grow up far less free then I did.

Is this the President who wants to give “enemy combatants” all of the rights given to citizens? Is this the President who condemned “water boarding”? Is this the same President whose Attorney General refuses to enforce existing immigration laws? Up is Down and Down is Up!

Ron Paul – President – NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama took the easy way out, chucking our civil liberties with it. Unbelievable really. And the signing sta tement is a lame cop out. He could have taken a stand and gotten his way quickly and it would have been a good stand. He was trumpeting the competency of our civil police and criminal justice system which is very adequate and does exchange intelligence with all agencys. Now he did this. We are on our own.

Shouldn’t the words “with reservations” be in quotes, in this headline?
Because otherwise, it just reads like an article from the Onion.

Look, I’m a conservative. So it comes as no surprise that I don’t like the president, when he’s passed so many uber-left pieces of legislation. But why is -anyone- on the left still sticking with him?
What is it with you guys? Did they implant chips in all of you at those massive rallies, and now you can’t protest against him anymore? Is it like Robocop, and your prime directive is to protect the president from criticism?

Calm down. This is just a cost cutting move to save money on judges and courts.

the president can do this to individual citizens, yet the Supreme Court says he can’t stop corporations from financing election campaigns (which could include foreign countries). To do that we need a constitutional amendment. Ok, it’s time for a constitutional amendment then.

Obama needs to be impeached and tried for treason…along with any and all representatives who signed this bill. What part of due process of law do you not understand?The constitution applies TO ALL PEOPLE IN THE USA, CITIZEN OR NOT!! A direct violation of the bill of rights. VOTE THEM OUT!! Ron Paul is the only candidate who would have stopped this and will get it repealed. Ron Paul is the ONLY one that can be trusted to follow the constitution, because he always has.

I really don’t see how this could be constitutional.

I have reservations about voting Obama.

I have no reservations about voting Ron Paul who actually believes in the Constitution instead of being a fake “scholar”.

Obama is about as pro constitution as Kim Jung Un.

I hope all Democrats who voted for hope and change will read about this and remember. And to those on the Republican side remember that you have the House Majority and voted in favor of it, too. Ron Paul was the only presidential candidate who spoke against it and has been speaking against it from the beginning.

When is America going to finally wake up and realize that the two paradigm is a set up and is used on purpose to divide and conquer the American people while the real agenda is pushed along by both parties regardless of affiliation. I say if the republicans hate him, the demacrats hate him, the mainstream media hates him and the corporations hate him then he must be good for us. Ron Paul must be elected or our way of life is going to dramatically change in the near future.

Forget tyranny – how about communism. That’s what Obama has led this country to.

Obama is working on his next big bill…it makes being white and rich a crime…

We, the citizens of the United States of America, are 100% free: We are free to do what we are told. We are free to conform to what is expected of us. We are free to be good Capitalists, buying up every piece of crap the Chinese can throw at us. We are free to soak up the limitless propaganda telling us how free we are, and of course we are free to angrily tell foreigners how gloriously free we are. Otherwise, we are completely free to join the 7+ MILLION of our fellow citizens who are currently in prison, on probation or on parole. Luckily for us all, that last “freedom” just got much easier for all of us to enjoy.

Your ‘reservations’ crack is not amusing Obama.

I defy anyone to tell me a candidate, republican or democrat, besides Ron Paul that actually wouldn’t sign a bill like this…

That’s why ABCnews, I don’t care if you run 200 hit pieces of Ron Paul from now until election day, he has my unwavering support.

This signing of NDAA by Obama hammers the nail in the coffin.

Habeas Corpus is now officially dead in the USA.

America is under Martial Law Rule for 2012 and beyond…

If the terrorist attacked us on 911 (see Rudolph Giuliani & others) because we are prosperous and free…well we don’t have to worry about terrorism anymore, because we certainly are not prosperous and now we are not free either!

“The president defended his action, writing that he signed the act, “chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States . . .”

In other words, the Republicans in the House stuck this nonsense in the bill.

So……basically what this article says, Vote for Ron Paul. Because he is the only guy that would veto this bill into oblivion.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT AMERICANS CARE ABOUT ABC!!! GOOD JOB ON REPORTING THIS, NOW don”T SWEEP IT UNDER THE CARPET.

REALLY CONVENIENT THAT HE WAITED TILL 6PM on NEW YEARS EVE TO PASS THIS BILL, WHEN EVERYONE WILL BE OUT GETTING TOO DRUNK TO REALIZE WHAT HE DID WHILE THEY WERE TRYING TO ENJOY THEIR NIGHT

HAPPY NEW YEAR, GIVE US YOUR FREEDOM.

PEOPLE SHOULD OWN ROCKET LAUNCHERS TO TAKE OUT THE DRONES THAT FLY OVER THEIR HOMES!

We’re already knee-deep in tyranny people. It’s time to wake up and start demanding our liberties back.

For the future of our Country, would everyone who is disturbed by this latest federal affront please do a little research, of their own, about who Ron Paul actually is and what the guy wants to accomplish? Check out Wikipedia or Ron Paul’s campaign site (ronpaul2012.com). The guy has faithfully kept his word to his constituents for 30 YEARS! He is as honest and loyal as they come. He has served our Country. Delivered babies. Helped the impoverished with his own time and money. The media calls THIS crazy?!?!

He wants to defend OUR country from our shores. Let the rest of the world deal with their own messes with their own money and troops – not ours. Israel? Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu agrees with Ron Paul. Don’t believe me? Watch the video of Neanyahu addressing our Congress. Is the Prime Minister from Israel anti-semitic? What candidate, including Obama has an actual plan to financially saves our economy? Paul wants the citizens of America to be free. Check this guy out. He is for real and he is NOT crazy. (No matter what the media tells you)

By the way, Goldman Sachs is financially backing BOTH Obama AND Romney – check it out for yourself. Its true.

I am ashamed to say that I voted for Obama last time. This time, I’m voting for Ron Paul AND NO ONE ELSE.

If Ron Paul doesn’t win the GOP nomination and then the general election, we will shortly see the end of the Republic. Freedom was so sweet. Now it’s gone. Only the bitter taste of tyranny left.

If our so called forefathers were to wake-up now in their graves, the first words out of their mouths would be ” LONG LIVE THE KING” !!!!!

Reservations?

Well thank the good Lord almighty he had reservations. He still signed the sharting thing, didn’t he.

Kids, things like Habeas Corpus and Quo Warranto were there for a reason. To protect you from wrongful arrest and political persecution. Now, they are gone and every last one of you are sitting ducks.

Hey, if you told me – 12 years ago – this country would turn into a dictatorship under martial law, I would have chalked your rants up to bad meds. Not anymore.

Ron Paul was exceedingly clear on how and why this was unconstitutional and utterly tyranical.

Are you listening to the man yet? When do you cry uncle?

We are losing our country.

This is why Ron Paul needs to be elected.

It would appear that after 200 plus years, the old European style aristocracy has found its way back into power.

I’m definitely voting for Ron Paul….even if I have to deliberately write in his name.

So basically we defeated the Soviet Police state only to become the Soviet Police state.

I feel sick. And, the sad part is that the system is so corrupt that they will rig the election because Ron Paul is to big a threat. No doubt, it’s in the works already.

Our U.S. Constitution is being ripped to shreds. The phony war on terror is the excuse to utterly DESTROY our freedom. In 2009, Homeland Security declared the people to watch out for were veterans returning from the wars, pro-lifers and Tea Party attendees. This year, 2011, Homeland Security put out a video portraying white people as the most likely terrorists. This EVIL Detention of Citizens is NOT for terrorists. It is to go after good, decent, patriotic law abiding people and imprison them without charge. It is the end of America and the beginning of hell on earth. How can our representatives ALLOW this dreadful CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY?

What freedoms are being eroded ? If the military suspects a us citizen as a terrorist you bet your ass I’m gonna want there to be an investigation. Let’s not only blame obama but half of all congress and the debate ( republican majority) voted for the bill. If we’re gonna blame anyone it should be people who want to kill our president.

THATS IT I’m voting for Paul

Obama may have had reservations but he followed orders and signed it anyway. It’s necessary if the global elite are to install the New World Order. Big question for me, will Deibold hack their voting machines to make sure one of the NWO-approved candidates wins and Ron Paul loses?

Hope and change is looking more and more like bars and chains.

When this country is in a full blown totalitarian rule and We the People are in ruins, I will remind you of how important Ron Paul was as I crawl past you. People don’t understand why Ron Paul supporters are almost fanatical to a fault about their candidate. It’s certainly not because of his charisma (although he does have a grandfatherly charm to him), and it”s not because he’s young and dashing. It’s for sure not because the media is covering him fawningly.

It’s because our country has been hijacked by conglomerates that own virtually every mainstream media network, and he is the only national figure calling them out on it every step of the way. They are so desperately afraid of a Ron Paul presidency that they are throwing everything they have at him. The left is claiming he is a homophobe, while the right decry that he would not interfere with a state’s right to approve gay marriage. The right decry that he would end the racist “War on Drugs”, while the left claims that because of 10 lines in a newsletter with his name on it that was not written by him and has been disavowed completely by him in addition to bearing some moral responsibility for them, he is a racist. The Democrats hate him. The Republicans hate him. The corporations hate him. The establishment media hates him. They all freaking come unglued when it comes to him. Why? He makes them look like the hypocritical frauds each and every one of them are. Yes, the left and right hate each other, and yes, they fight over who gets control of the trough, but someone like Paul, who wants to drain the swamp, has them lock-and-step in arms united against him. Doesn’t this tell you anything?!?

Some of you agree with him on everything except his foreign policy, thinking he is a pacifist, think again. President Paul would be the most ruthless President this country ever had as Commander-in-Chief. If Congress declared war, Paul would unleash the full military power of the United States, go to war, fight the war, and win it and “get it over with” in his own words. No nation building or propping up puppet dictator governments. And a message would be sent to the rest of the world not to mess with us.

Ron Paul is the most incorruptible politician in modern American history. For the first time since Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles, We the People have someone we can trust to enter the White House and act like the adult and leader that this country needs so badly, owned by NOBODY. There will never, ever, ever, EVER be another Ron Paul. I beg anyone on the fence to spend two hours on YouTube watching Ron Paul videos straight from the man’s mouth himself. Love him or hate him, you must admit that Ron Paul has already won in the sense that his ideas have become mainstream. The establishment is panicking, and deservedly so, because if Paul becomes the President, We the People will finally realize that we have been lied to and deceived by the criminals and shysters in D.C. and the establishment media was complicit in the lie the entire time. And let me tell you, when We the People realize this en masse, they will have hell to pay.

The very fact that our government is trying to take our liberties, regardless of pass or fail tells me its time for a new government.

Vote for yourself, vote ron paul.

Obama -”………. and wants to make sure that any type of authorization coming from congress, complies with our Constitution, our rules of war and any applicable laws.”

He has not cared about this in the past. I certainly don’t believe he plans on changing either. Will this be how the FEMA camps are filled?

Hope and change is looking more and more like bars and chains.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 31, 2011, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

It wasn’t the President who wanted these provisions in the bill. Who was it?

In the House, 190 Republicans voted for this bill, 93 Democrats voted for it. 93 Democrats voted against it, 43 Republicans voted against it.

Great. Leave it to the racist to be the only one against this.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. If it means stopping terrorists, then I don’t care if its unconstitutional. If you are not a terrorist then you shouldn’t have to worry. Further more, President Obama didn’t just whip this out of his rear end this morning. It started at the bottom before it got to the top.

We are now living in a dictatorship, this is no longer a matter of OPINION, it is now a matter of LAW…

The two party system keeps us fighting useless culture wars while tyrants and traitors pillage our country and enslave our people. Wake up America – all you are being offered are competing foms of totalitarianism. I am voting for liberty. I am voting for Ron Paul.

With reservations? That’s rich. I wonder if I could get away with that. “Yeah, I murdered 15 people, but I did it with reservations. So it’s all good.” What kind of BS is that? ABC has zero journalistic integrity. Part of what makes the news so dangerous is that they completely ignore some huge stories, like the Federal Reserve spending $16 trillion dollars in complete secret in 2008, while the Congress passed a $700 billion bailout bill. What’s perhaps even more dangerous is to report horrendous news like this, but act like it’s no big deal, because it was done “with reservations”. I don’t care what the Congress or the President’s mood was like when this stuff passed. I care that it shouldn’t have ever passed.

There is a r3VOLution against this, it is called Ron Paul. Why do you think we Ron Paul supporters have been so hardcore supporting him? We have seen all of this coming because we have been researching the things that the media won’t tell you. Why do you think they label Ron Paul crazy? It is because the powers that be are taking everything from you that Ron Paul wants to give back to you. This is why we are so bent on supporting Ron Paul, but you all won’t listen, you will just keep believing he is some nutcase because he wants to go the exact opposite way of the government. You people want a r3VOLution, you want to end legislation like this, you want to end corruption, then get your buts behind Ron Paul, donate to his campaign and start spreading the word to everyone you know about him. He is the only choice if you care to save what is left of this country. Wake up.

One less reason to be proud to be an American.

The NDAA is the single worst piece of legislation passed in American history.

The Republican House, Democratic Senate and Barack Obama have just “reached across the aisle” to annihilate any remaining semblance of liberty and justice in this country. And of course, like the Federal Reserve Act and every other nakedly fascist bill before it, the NDAA was passed over the holidays. What could they be afraid of?

My compliments for finally mentioning the NDAA, ABC! I know you’ve been too busy tearing Ron Paul apart limb-to-limb to even *question* the actions of the House, Senate and Obama in this assault on American citizens, but better late than never.

Does anyone remember when the media didn’t carry the State’s water like it was their damn religion?

Does anyone remember when the free press would risk life and limb to expose government attacks on our liberty?

Me neither.

Vote Ron Paul.

Both parties are at fault for this disaster of a bill. Don’t be fooled, they knew what they were voting in and President Obama knew what he was signing. I don’t want to hear about his ‘reservations’, he was not forced to sign this act, he did so willingly. Now he just has to save face because he is up for re-election. I am not placing the blame solely on him, as I stated, the Republican party is as much at fault for this as well.

I hope that my fellow Americans are now awake enough to realize that we cannot keep voting for these establishment, treasonous criminals. Although the Left and Right hate each other and fight for the right to retain power, they also work together to keep us under their control by stripping us of our liberties.

Please understand that those of us who so passionately support Ron Paul, do so because we have thoroughly researched this man and see him as the only politician who is willing to put the American citizens interests before special interests. He is the only one who’s 20+ yr record has proven that he wants us to remain a free and prosperous people. I am not asking anyone to take my word for this. Please research Ron Paul for yourselves. The media and the establishment politicians on both sides hate him because he is a threat to their power and their bank accounts. He speaks the truth and that is dangerous to the establishment agenda.

I am a mother of 2 children and another one on the way. I am begging you all, for the sake of my children and your own, please vote for Ron Paul. Our freedom depends on your doing the right thing for your country and your fellow Americans.
Thank you and God Bless.

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” ~Benjamin Franklin

If you feel safe because of laws like this to protect you then you deserve to be a slave with no freedom. Anyone who can support someone other than Ron Paul for 2012 should be a shame. It’s a disgrace to all Americans and ALL Veterans who fight for our freedom and die for our freedom. For reasons like this is why Most Veterans support Ron Paul. Michele Bachmann voted for this. Romney agrees on it. Nobody but Ron Paul disagree with this, WAKEUP AMERICA!!!!!!! TURN OFF your tv and avoid the mainstream media and Do your own research and you will see why we need Ron Paul. Romney will just be worse than Obama as he already is a puppet to the corporations that fund and support him

How much more hope and change can we take here in The People’s Republic of America?

I already support Paul, but I can now say without a shadow of a doubt that if you are voting for any GOP candidate or were a believer in the change Obama preached about, send him and the establishment a strong message.

Register now in your respective states as a republican and vote Paul in the primaries. Do not for one second believe any other GOP candidate would restore our civil liberties, freedom and rights… Paul has been warning about our road to ruin for 30 years, as far as I’m concerned Osama won, and we lost. Left, right, moderate or indifferant- do the right thing and support Paul.

To the blind person who said this: “Much ado about nothing. When did Republicans go soft on terrorism? They applauded when GW signed similar legislation. If you are not a terrorist, you don’t have to worry. If you are, you don’t really care about some stupid law. Either way, much ado about nothing.”

Actually, what this is now is a reason to detain ANYONE for ANY REASON. Like when they drag us away to FEMA camps. This is not about terrorism, this is about control! This will not just apply to potential terrorists. This will apply to just about anyone that they feel they have a right to detain. You need to wake up.

How can Homeland Security portray white people as the most likely terrorists?

Posted by: Linda Rivera | December 31, 2011, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Because in America that’s the case.

What a great way to start the new year…. I just looked up this Ron Paul guy and it looks like hes actually going to win iowas primary and hes been promoting the constitution his whole career, seems genuine. I hope he beats President Obama for this inexcusable act.

How can Homeland Security portray white people as the most likely terrorists?

Posted by: Linda Rivera | December 31, 2011, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Because in the United States, they are.

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.” – Thomas Jefferson

this is why we need to support ron paul, for the record i wrote my congressman, lindsey grahmn replied back that “he felt it necessary to the security of america” in reply to my objection as a constiuent that this is an infringement of a right. tim scott replied back that this would not effect citizens. obama knew exactly what he was doing, the clock is ticking open your eyes. they have your name and mine, we are all on the list

Saying he signed this bill “with reservations” is equivalent of ” I smoked pot but did not inhale.” This is wrong on all levels. This is NOT America.

The MSM has not been saying much about this bill for a couple of months. The original Senate Bill part to include indefinite detention of American Citizens was introduced by Sen. John McCain (R) and Sen. Carl Levin(D) behind closed doors. There was a little amount of debate about changing the language in the final bill, but it was reported the White House would NOT sign the Bill WITHOUT the Detention clause. A veto meant no money to continue our current war strategy, so the final Bill passed easily. Only ONE candidate for President has been outspoken about this Bill because it is a CLEAR VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION. That candidate is RON PAUL.

This a treasonous act by the President and every Senator and Rep that voted for it. They have all committed an act of TREASON against the Constitution they swore to uphold. People of this country its time to ACT! Our power lies at the polls. The “ruling” class of this country need a louder message than 2010. LET THEM HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

This is ridiculous! We are losing are freedoms! Ron Paul 2012!

We desperately need to send a message to both parties – by supporting Ron Paul. THE MAJORITY OF BOTH parties signed this into law.

And they repeat over and over that Ron Paul is dangerous? He is only dangerous if the Constitution and rule of law is dangerous. He IS dangerous to the establishment tyrants who support this.

Change your registration now and vote for him in the primaries. At the very least it would put pressure on Obama to move toward peace and civil liberties. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Perry will all move Obama toward more wars and police state policies.

Order will be restored in DC when it comes time for the President to pick up his retirement check

Happy New Year, Comrades!

You may show your “papers” to the nice uniformed man before boarding the train to your nearest FEMA camp for “re-education”.

Proud to be an Amerikan indeed…

If Ron Paul is not our next President, we will not recognize what’s left of our country.

Oh so you guys believe material posted by Alex Jones. Cool. So you believe George Bush Sr. was in on the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Makes sense because he went from nowhere to being head of the CIA in a few short years.

The reservations are the places where people will end up who dare find fault with the state, or associate with people who do, or give them the time of day, or look sneaky.

The Constitution is very clear. The congress only has the power to instigate suspension of Habeas Corpus, and only during times of invasion or insurrection. Recently the New York Times asked the presidential candidates about the power they believe the president has. Only Ron Paul cited the Constitution’s rule about suspension of Habeas Corpus. Obama declined to answer.

This is a sad day for what used to be America. All of us have it ingrained in us from a young child what these United States of America stand for and we know this in our hearts to be against anything we have stood for. Our constitution, the bill of rights is who we are and who we will be again. I leave you with this on the eve of a new year. I ask you, who are we and what have we become? What will we have to do to become that once proud Union of people once again.
Ron Paul is the only sollution, he puts forth an honest picture of who we are and what he would like us to become once again. For the love of our country get registered as a repulican so we can become the proud people of these United States of America once again, and vote Ron Paul and only Ron Paul.

Senator Levin repeats himself in that clip but doesn’t speak it clearly. If that’s all you’ve got – you haven’t got anything.

Surely you must have another source?

Everything else I’ve read says it was Levin himself (along with McCain) who pushed for indefinite detention – under the military.

Time for a recall petition and vote!

“First they came for the “terrorists”,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a “terrorist”.

Then they came for the anarchists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an anarchist.

Then they came for the Ron Paul supporters,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Ron Paul supporter.

Then they came for any leftover dissidents,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a dissident.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak out for me.”

Wake up people!

Ron Paul 2012

America died today.

RIP

ABO 2012

Whittling away our democracy. Support Ron Paul! America’s last chance to wake up.

Ron Paul is the only one on the side of the people and his stand on this abomination proves it. All the negative things you hear about him in the media are lies. He is not homophobic or a racist and he does not want to throw grandma out in the cold. Please people, wake up and vote for Ron Paul!!!

This country is on a slippery slope to its own demise.

RON PAUL 2012

RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION

Is it OK for me to Pray he visits dallas soon? Or maybe we’ll just get lucky and he’ll inhale some really thick POI.

The fact is Ron Paul has a 30 year record of upholding individual freedom, rights, liberty, based on the Constitution. He opposes the corrupt over-powered Federal government with things like the privacy invasion of the TSA, the evil Patriot Act, the 4th amendment killing NDAA bill, the internet censorship bill SOPA, the racist and corrupt War on Drugs, and the unjust wars in the middle east.

Ron Paul is the only one fighting against those issues. Ron Paul is the ONLY vote that can beat Obama, pulling votes from dissatisfied Dems, the growing Independent population, and a growing portion of the Republicans. A vote for Paul is the ONLY vote for peace, prosperity and liberty.

Do Iowa democrats and New Hampshire Indys need any more reason why they should Vote and Caucus for RON PAUL … if we lose our freedom a nuke would be welcome

Couple this new NDAA Act that the President tyrannously signed into law with the “domestic terrorist” list that the Dept of Homeland Security has been compiling since 2009 and folks…we have a problem. YOU could be arrested WITHOUT any rights, hauled off, and never heard from again, WITHOUT a trial if the Government feels that you’re a threat for such heinous violations as:

-Expressing Libertarian philosophies
-Having Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
-Expressing fears of Big Brother or big government
-Homeschooling
-Declaring Constitutional rights and civil liberties
-Being strongly Pro-life

This is NOT conspiracy theorist spoutings. This is not fear mongering. This is happening right in front of our eyes while we are entertained, distracted by toys, and lulled to sleep.

Well, Happy New Year everyone. We might as well all get to know each other. Who knows, we may all be spending next New Year’s Eve on a concrete slab in a dungeon somewhere.

Ron Paul, your country needs you more than ever. I pray to God they wake up.

I ate dinner in a really fancy restaurant last night.

I had reservations…

But I decided to go anyway.

RON PAUL 2012!

Happy New Year! Welcome to Nazi Germany, 1933. At least it’s election year and we get to pick our own Hitler.

Or…. you could vote for Ron Paul. Twelve term congressman from Texas with consistent principled integrity who predicted the financial crisis, predicted our foreign policy of adventurism overseas inciting terrorism toward years ago, that has upheld his oath of office and defended the constitution at every turn since he took office, and the only politician that can stand up on the debate stage and introduce himself as THE CHAMPION OF THE CONSTITUTION, and NO ONE dares challenge it, because they KNOW IT!

Time to nut up. Vote Ron Paul, and lets get our rights back, so we don’t have to do it the hard way. Again.

Ron Paul 2012
Freedom from tyranny

ONCE AGAIN, RON PAUL is the only guy who has the guts to speak out against stuff like this. I don’t know why anyone would support ANY of the other gutless candidates over Ron Paul.

Don’t be alarmed. It’s just the New World Order. The elites have been writing about how they were going to do this kinda stuff for many years. Maybe you should have been listening to the “kooks” and “conspiracy theorists” all along. Bend over please… yes you…really, yes I am talking to you… I know you think your a good person…

Wow. Ok, i’ll take a look at Ron Paul

Wake up and vote Ron Paul 2012 our last chance to be free.

Looks like the so called “kooks, haters,nutjobs, and extremist were right all along. If this is not the proof and wake up call what do you need, a 2×4 piece of hickory to get your attention?

This is completely unacceptable! Even though I’ve always been a democrat, am thinking about switching party affiliation in order to help out the Paul campaign.

Look out, Tea Party…. How many Dem’s and R’s have declared you terrorists? The Oministration has declared that the Taliban is not our enemy…. The Tea Party is.

Go figure.

I hope all the media that is funded by Soros will now wake up. Once the “agenda” is complete and this is just another step, they will have no use for you either. Keep these stories alive so people will wake up and see what is going on. I wonder if there will be an election come 2012?

Posted by: specialty57 | January 1, 2012, 6:12 am 6:12 am

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No, there will not be an election in 2012. Congress and POTUS just sealed the deal. It’s all about retaining power. The Tea Party and OWS are a threat to the Elite. The Elite can now imprison and/or detain us without charge.

Wake up, America!

This is tyranny; the same kind of tyranny we took up arms to break free of over 200 years ago.

RON PAUL 2012!!!

This is just plain wrong. Those who think it doesn’t apply to American citizens better read it again. One of the saddest parts is that the Senate voted it in by 93 to 7 or something incredible like that. It’s bad and it’s wrong.

Ron Paul for 2012! Without him in office, the Republic is over.

happy and healthy new YEAR/2012, to all!
….this will be the greatest election in many years! and i am looking forward to the battle! for we will win! [only human, and was just a typo.]

Obama you should have grown a pair, and not signed it.

Just so all of you know and want to think that this bill was completely crafted by republicans, it was a bipartisan bill. The sponsors were McCain (R) and Levin (D). Start thinking outside the box and oppose anyone, regardless of party, who voted for this.

Amazing, the People lose all their freedom and THEN they want to vote for Ron Paul.

@vman2003 | January 1, 2012, 9:11 am 9:11 am
“Obama you should have grown a pair, and not signed it.”

Someone forcing YOUR guy to sign it? He’s the POTUS. He signed it, he OWNS this bill. When will you sheeple wake up? But keep telling yourself the GOP is to blame if it helps you sleep at night know you helped put this man in the WH.

Does this mean Obama’s good friend Bill Ayers can now be arrested and held indefinitely?

“The majority Republican House wanted the MILITARY to have the right of unlimited detention? Why?”
Posted by: Dan | December 31, 2011, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Hey Dan. The GOP only controls 1/3 of the House, Senate, and WH. For you to put the blame on the GOP for this is laughable. The bill passed the DEMOCRAT controlled Senate 93–7. It was signed by a DEMOCRAT President. Shame on you for trying to deflect blame to the GOP. If GOP had signed this, and the Democrats controlled both the House & Senate, I bet you would not blame the Democrats. You’re the type the buys the MSM narrative the the Democrats are fighting for civil liberties arent ya?

Obama is going to turn all the terrorists at Gitmo over to the Taliban in Afganistan so they can turn them loose, and now Obama plans to have Americans held “indefinitely” ?

What American in their right mind can support a man like Barack Hussein Obama?

“What American in their right mind can support a man like Barack Hussein Obama?”

Well we all know that the great American (and 1 percenter) George Soros supports him. Wait, what’s that? Soros is not an American you say? Well then I’m sure most of the rest of his campaign money came from Americans…..right????

Please donate money to Ron Paul! God help us all…….
“is life so dear as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me give me liberty or give me death…..”Patrick Henry

Yet another slip down the road towards tyranny. Bend over and kiss you Liberty goodbye. I hear France is asking for the Statue back! Might as well just hang swastikas from the white house. Soon you will be asked for your papers by the US Gestapo (TSA)! Not to mentioned being spied on by the KGB (CIA/FBI/Black Ops). Welcome to Americka! Did I spell that right Stalin (Obama)?

Here’s one disaffected Democrat that will be supporting Ron Paul during the primary season and seriously considering him over President Obama in the general.

He had reservations? Obummer wanted the language specifically left in. All the conn-jobs and Obama should be recalled, impeached, and tried for blatant treason against the US.
I really didn’t think we could get worse than Bush, but we did. If people don’t wakeup now they never will and this country will be a third world banana republic run by a psychopathic Dicktator, This is what conjobs in congress and the multinational corps WANT! We the people will have to throw our bodies into the cogs of this TYRANNICAL MACHINE in any way possible to stop this abomination.
Do you all want to sit in a Guantanamo style FEMA camp, how about your children? We are all Palestinians now! Zionists have have had a nice coup…

Vote Ron Paul or line of for the FEMA camps, that’s everyone’s choice now.

While Americans bickered about how the rich businessman was taking advantage of the poor and how we need to bomb Iran for having what everyobne else around them has (nuclear power), the great lie that is dividied government wholeheartedly came together to support indefinite military detention of Americans on the presdinets say so. Why not? The president has already supported tapping your phone and internet, killing 16 year old american citizens with drones w/o charge or trial. The media didn’t bother reporting this when it went thru the senate and the house. They spent more time telling us how Ron Paul is heartless and crazy and that HE MUST NOT, I mean could never win the presidency. Meanwhile, The Paul family seem to be the only ones predicting these atocities beforehand and then voting against them. We’ve lost the republic and I hope people understand where we are at now. Good Luck, dangerous times are here.

I’m not sure which is scarier: The fact that our own President signed away more of American’s personal rights, or that the American people don’t realize it and continue to vote for this guy. There’s ONE candidate who says NO NO NO to the disappearance of our personal freedoms. And with the dedicated help of Main Stream Media and the Republican Establishment, the lies on Ron Paul spread like wildfire. How a country can beat down and disrespect a man who has fought for the Constitution for 30 years is pathetic. I’m beginning to lose confidence in the American sheeple. It’s a sad time for America.

do any one of you, especially those who support president obama, agree that the north korean government that has been sending their own people to the concentration camps to keep the north korear safe is all right ?

Obama threatened to veto the bill unless congress bent to his demand that they insert the provision to include American citizens. Congress bent to Obama’s wishes and voila…Our President has just created a fascist state in the late Great USA. All who voted for this bill should be arrested as terrorists, held without charges indefinitely as a test model to see if it really works. In twenty years we could assemble a council to discuss the pros & cons of indefinite detention while showing the debate live to all the detainees. They could even weigh in on the debate from prison. Just dreaming.

This is the FINAL straw! I don’t agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says and I have never voted Republican but I’m voting for him in 2012.

Did any of you commenting here actually read the final Bill HR 1540 (not previous versions or senate versions, but the final version signed by Obama) and the president’s signing statements? Clearly you didn’t. You’re all reacting to this sloppy ABC piece and nonsense repeated by the uninformed. If you’d read the final version, those of you harping about Section 1031, would know that the former section 1031, regarding detainees, is now Section 1021. In the final version, 1031 is about the Defense Secretary’s requirement to brief congressional defense committees.

Subtitle D Counterterrorism, starts with Section 1021, which primarily codifies authorities grated to the executive branch and the military in the Authorization for Use of Military Force, passed in 200, under Bush. Let me repeat that – Passed in 2001 under Bush. Obama’s signing statement about this section reads “This section breaks no new ground and is unnecessary. The authority it describes was included in the 2001 AUMF, as recognized by the Supreme Court and confirmed through lower court decisions since then. Two critical limitations in section 1021 confirm that it solely codifies established authorities.” For those of you who need help with translation, than means “Nothing New Here”.

For those claiming “No one is speaking about this. No one is against this but Ron Paul. Obama forced this provision on congress… blah blah blah. Read Representative Henry Waxman’s statement on HR 1540, where he says “I commend President Obama for insisting on a number of changes, including a prohibition on military detention of U.S. citizens and lawful residents, the removal of language that would have banned the use of civilian courts to prosecute Qaeda suspects…” Also read up on Diane Feinstein’s attempts to pass amendments to absolutely exclude US Citizens from these provisions, ending with the compromise to include in section 1021 paragraph (e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.”

“This isn’t really a stretch: if you don’t want to be held indefinitely, don’t engage in terrorism”

Here’s the problem tho, who gets to decide what is terrorism? Obama, Holder, and Napalitano are already referring to the Tea Party as “terrorists” DoHS put out a report a year or so ago that anyone with a Ron Paul sticker on their car might be a terrorist, or someone opposed to abortion, or someone that supports the NRA.

This bill is not good. Our founders never intended for the federal government to have this kind of power. The even wrote a document called the Constitution to prevent them from having it, yet our politicians today do not care about this document.

@Dan Some politicians (read Right-wing) have been trashing our constitution for years – just look at the so-called Patriot Act and frightening expansion of executive powers under Bush. And those of us who cried foul then were labeled “traitors” and “terrorists” by the same short-sighted folks whining about this bill now. Research the history of the bill, Obama’s efforts to eliminate and temper the totalitarian provisions and his signing statement. The act was signed because of the abundance of positive necessary measures it contains, and the totalitarian portions pushed by McCain and congressional republicans were hobbled enough to be dealt with. Hopefully, the administration will be able to get those eliminated permanently or diffused in the courts before we have another republican in the WH declaring war on “anybody we don’t like at the moment”

Obama is a puppet, just like the other presidents. It’s all part of the long term plan.

“Obama’s efforts to eliminate and temper the totalitarian provisions and his signing statement. The act was signed because of the abundance of positive necessary measures it contains, and the totalitarian portions pushed by McCain and congressional republicans”

Seriously MDonisland?

There’s a YouTube video of Carl Levin clearly stating the Obama insisted on the provisions to detain U.S. citizens. Who am I gonna believe, you or my own lying eyes?

And to blame the Republicans for a bill that passed the Democrat-controlled Senate? Are you f-ing kidding me?

BTW, the PATRIOT Act passed with bi-partisan support, and guess who authored the original version? That’s right, your “brilliant” Vice President, Mr. Joe Biden himself.

If you think the Democrat party is the party of civil liberties, you better think again son.

And people wonder why Ron Paul is so popular? This law is a travesty and a complete and utter trashing of the Constitution. Reservations my rear end; Obama is another liar and fraud and statist like Bush, Clinton and so may others. Only Ron Paul can stop this madness and avalanche of oppression that is descending on the American people.

Ron Paul 2012 – for freedom, liberty, and the Constitution!!!

Never has America has as many ignorant voters as they did in 2008.

Obama threatened to veto this bill UNTIL IT INCLUDED the provision regarding americans on US soil. Shame on me, I voted for this man. Ron Paul 2012.

Posted by: dDog23 | January 1, 2012, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

You might want to research this a little more. The President’s main role was to take the decisions regarding indefinite detainment out of the hands of the (unelected) military.

Imagine that soldiers who left as ur friend come back from the war to push every citizen of the u.s. around no longer ur friend who needs a president forget voting I’m a felon no job with skills but americans so sheepish vote for all of this white,black,mexican,asian,all countries there is no unity so get ya money & guns up no love & there is no god it’s just a word look at everybody they say they believe but they can’t cause of selfishness.

Wasn’t Obama a constitutional lawyer? He’s worse than George W. Bush.

“Oh boy! Could you imagine the uproar if Bush did this? But as always, the Left will find a way to say it’s all good and necessary.”
– Posted by: newcountryman | December 31, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

But “the Left” certainly haven’t and won’t in this case.

Does anyone still think that there is any difference between the two parties? This bill was formulated and passed by a republican senate, voting in a bipartisan manner, passed by 93% of the Senate, and signed by a Democratic president.

We are now a fully communist country.

Our U.S. Constitution is ripped to shreds. Our Bill of Rights is DESTROYED. This Bill violates International Law. The so-called war on terror is the excuse to utterly DESTROY our freedom. In 2009, Homeland Security declared the people to watch out for were veterans returning from the wars, pro-lifers and Tea Party attendees. This year, 2011, Homeland Security put out a video portraying white people as the most likely terrorists.

This EVIL Detention of Citizens is NOT for terrorists. It is for good, decent, patriotic law abiding people to IMPRISON them WITHOUT CHARGE and INDEFINITELY DETAIN them. The end of America and the death of freedom. How could our representatives ALLOW this dreadful CRIME against humanity and pass it? The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave is no longer. What frightening future awaits American innocents?

It’s about time that we do something about the nut jobs we have let into this country. The nut jobs that come in from Mexico and Canada need to be picked up we all know it. This is a good step to defending this country from people the government have let in and now regret it. I can only think this is a good solution for many years of protecting criminals that only want to destroy this country. This is a good start but more needs to be done, public hangings should follow for the guilty. Death penalty for lessor crimes should follow and have it completed within a resonable time not ten years.

i do not think taking law into our own hands is a good idea, please don’t do this. is this bill a good idea? hell no. i am also what you might consider being part of the left and i wish more people would realize that these ideas that the right and the left differ so greatly are mostly created by the political media. i absolutely oppose this bill and really hope that someone defeats it by calling it into question. this is very bad people. we need to defeat sh*t like this by banding together, not splitting our differences. i’m pretty sure most people want to have the freedoms promised them by the constitution and the bill of rights, right or left. this bill is an attack on those rights.

Gutentag, Amerika!

Let’s see…

We’re $15 trillion in debt, people are losing their houses while big banks are being bailed out, the REAL unemployment rate is closer to 20% than it is to 10%, we have troops stationed in over 900 military bases in over 120 different countries, the government is promising entitlements from cradle to grave when they know there is no money for it, the central bank prints our money like a counterfeiter with someone else’s checkbook, all I hear on tv is “global financial collapse” and the president thinks it’s okey dokey for him… or any president after him… to indefinitely detain or assassinate American citizens without a trial. But don’t worry because we’re having an election…except that the only man on stage who would put a stop to this madness is the one considered a kooky, unelectable racist homophobe. This is right out of the Hitler playbook… go check it out. We had a Reichstag Fire (9/11), and an Enabling Act (Patriot Act), the removal of church/religion from the public square, the SS (Homeland Security), and let’s not forget concentration camps (FEMA camps). I could go on, but most people don’t give a damn. They think it could never happen here. Guess what… it IS happening here. They label us as conspiracy theorists, but you can verify all of this stuff on the web…well, until Obama signs the SOPA bill giving him control over the internet.

Wake up people! Ron Paul is really the only one who cares about your liberty and your civil rights. Nothing else matters if you don’t have those.

republican senate, voting in a bipartisan manner, passed by 93% of the Senate, and signed by a This bill was formulated and passed by a republican senate, voting in a bipartisan manner, passed by 93% of the Senate, and signed by a Democratic president.
Posted by: Jay Stang

Republican Senate? Uh….the Senate is controlled by the Democrats. GOP control the House.

Do a control F The NDAA allows the military to engage in sodomy and beastiality
And yes, the “language” that includes American Citizens was requested by the president. It’ s on you tube – Senator Levin argues that it was at his request to include the “language”. It used to be section 1029 or something. They just moved it to an earler section in the bill .

SUSAN, if you’re worried about Ron Paul’s opposition of Civil Rights legislation, take a look at what Walter Williams say about the subject. You can get a good idea on it if you Google Walter Williams and his opinion of Rand Paul’s comments on the Civil Rights Act. Basically, What Dr. Williams says is that under the Constitution, our federal government has no legal authority to prevent discrimination. He goes in to several eloquent examples of socially acceptable discriminatory acts practiced even today, and follows through with the idea that, with with government’s intervention of forced integration, it has actually hindered voluntary integration.

That is also Ron Paul’s position. Ron Paul believes that if we had just allowed the free market to work, businesses that discriminated based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc, the market would have punished those establishments and we wouldn’t have the bitterness we have today over things like affirmative action, which, by the way, Walter Williams is against.

I disagreed with a few of Dr. Paul’s positions when I first learned of him, but on those issues, I looked in to why he believes what he believes and found that I had to change my mind on several of them.

A vote for Ron Paul is not voting for the lesser of two evils. It is a vote for an honest man with more credibility than any politician I’ve seen in my lifetime.

These provisions are unconstitutional and treasonous. They should expose the entire Congress and the President to impeachment. Unfortunately, the over-reach by our government is bringing us ever closer to the necessity of armed revolution.

So not only didn’t President Obama close down Guantanamo Bay like he promised, he opened it up to Americans.

Next up… broadening the definition terrorism to include any type of extremism with violence.

As an Obama supporter, I hope this isn’t true. This sounds wrong. Why would he sign this on vacation? I want the press to put the pressure on this issue. the military better have some real evidence against a person before they lock someone up indefinitely. This would be a dumb you know what move by President Obama that he better fix. NO American citizen feels safe knowing they can be detained without charge. The charge should be suspicion of terror and there should be enough evidence to back that up

“Cry, the beloved country”….America is no longer what it used to be. Things are falling apart…the center can no longer hold.

“Nothing to see here. Just go back and watch your reality TV shows
Do not worry – everything we do, we do for YOUR own good”

“Have the media put some pressure on”? What a JOKE!!!
The media have tingling sensation in their legs still…They love this stuff and they dont care about you and me. Why dont you call your party and tell them how “dumb you know what move” this is.
See if they care.

Mark this day and the days leading up to this. Our government committed treason against the people of this country and its constitution that they were sworn to protect and defend.

“The administration also pushed Congress to change a provision that would have denied U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism the right to trial and could have subjected them to indefinite detention. Lawmakers dropped the military custody requirement for U.S. citizens or lawful U.S. residents.”

San Francisco Chronicle
January 1, 2012

“The administration also pushed Congress to change a provision that would have denied U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism the right to trial and could have subjected them to indefinite detention. Lawmakers eventually dropped the military custody requirement for U.S. citizens or lawful U.S. residents.”

Fox News
December 31, 2012

“Nothing (this bill) affects U.S. citizens,” Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) said this month. “The provisions in this bill … are small steps towards having this Congress back in detention decisions. I think it is the right small step.”

I voted for Bush twice and holding my nose I voted for McCain. How stupid I was! I did not become aware of what Ron Paul was all about until after the 2008 Presidential Elections. I used to be a Neocon warmonger. Ron Paul has cured my apathy and woke me up to see the light.

Ron Paul for POTUS 2012 to restore America. to hell with the rest of the Traitorous Republorats and Democan’s. Both party’s are guilty of Treason. John McCain and Carl Levin can go to Hell!

For all you people who are frightened I hope this motivates you to take a serious look at Ron Paul and disregard the media smears. I have only started supporting him in the last 6 months and I understand why people are so passionate about him. He is the only one who cares about our liberties and taking care the American people’s problems first here at home. In my lifetime I always questioned and am extremely frustrated with the fact that we give our money to everyone else and ignore our own people’s needs. We pay our taxes and the government does nothing to ease the problems we have at home. It is not isolationist to take care of our country first with our hard earned money and then help others if we can. That is Ron Paul’s policy. Please check him out in this own words. He is not a kook. He is and honorable man who seems kind of mild mannered (not your usual extroverted b.s-ing politician) but would fiercely defend our country from any credible threat without taking away the freedom of the people. He is 100% in believing in the sovereignty of nations (including Israel) and thinks that each nation should be able to make their own decisions regarding their defense without having to get other nations or the U.N. approval. He has a honest record Give him a fair look. The rest of them have sold us out while we were complacent and not paying attention. Other countries hate us because of what our government does. It does not represent the will of the people any more so we have take a stand and demand our rights and our country back.

AND SO IT BEGINS

I thought it required a Constitutional Convention to change the Constitution and rob us of our inalienable rights to a public and speedy trial. I guess I’m not as clued in as that genius Constitutional lawyer Obambam.

I am a staunch supporter of President Obama, but this will doubtless go down in history as his greatest, and most serious, mistake. I can in no way justify this action. He should have vetoed the bill. My father’s cousin’s wife spent part of her childhood in Tule Lake, for the “crime” of having Japanese ancestry. This opens the door for this to happen, again, in the United States. I fear, with this legislation, Obama has handed a future president the tool for the country’s destruction. I can only hope this was a political maneuver designed to pull the issue into the Supreme Court, where, one hopes, it would be rendered unconstitutional. Regardless, it is a slap int he face to Obama’s supporters.

Well, that does it. With that, my vote will move from Obama to Ron Paul officially. Thanks for making that decision an easy one Barrack. And thank you Ron Paul for continuing to stand for this country’s integrity.

Obama Signs Act to Allow Detention of Citizens

Huuummmmm . . . . sounds like a Progressive move to me.
Why am I not surprised Barry would do this?

I think it is time for all of us to wake up and fight the government. I had reservations, too concerning the candidacy of Ron Paul. But now, it just proved that he was right all along. We have to cast our votes to the right candidate and begin dismantling this oppressive government.

Ron Paul is the ONLY hope left for America! For almost 30 years, Ron Paul, or Dr. No, has consistently and steadfastly legislated and voted in honor of his oath to the Constitution and in the best interests, civil rights and freedoms of the American people.

We may not agree with all that Paul says but one thing we can all agree on… Ron Paul is an honest politician, a rare breed indeed; and what you see is what you get. Ron Paul’s rhetoric matches his record.

It is far past time to end this two-party/one-party monopoly of a government packed with greedy, self-serving members of Congress working against America’s best interests. These global elitists have continually, for at least the past three decades, thrown America under the bus in their misguided quest for open borders, “globalization” and the push towards a One World Order.

We must get back to the Constitution, the rule of law, and what made America great.

Ron Paul for President.

God Help Us

OBAMA-NOV 1-2008″ “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded (as the military)”

And so it begins…..

Good job, Obamaphiles! You bum rushed Hillary and put a community organizer in charge of the business climate so you could get…

“reservations.”

What a sneaky, non-transparent man we have elected. New Years Eve. Disgusting.

…and the band played on.

where is the outrage.
when Bush signed the Patriot Act, there were calls for his arrest. Ashcroft is a war criminal, etc.
What kind of media do we have.
and why was it impossible to even find this article. Had to link to it from Daily Caller.
This is Stalinist Russia for sure.

The media will do everything they can to suppress what dear leader and his administation does. They will keep doing this until we all wake up as communists.

ABO 2012

“Another out of context idiotic post.”

Really, Kimberly Jack???

Maybe you need to adjust the propeller on your tin foil hat. It is tilting so far left that you are in danger of falling over.

ABO 2012

… Yeah, Kimberly Jack. And after 3 years in office, he finally got around to visiting Pearl Harbor, not on the anniversary date, but a few days ago.

What sacrifice!

ABO 2012

Lol , Kimberly Jack-

I am a black Democrat. We know obama only visited Pearl Harbor because of the upcoming election. That is also what my friends in the military believe and tell me. Shucks, obama might as well have gone golfing instead because he has already lost a great majority of their vote and won’t be getting it back. I guess now you are going to spew hateful assumptions about the military, yes?

As for right-wingers, they (for the record) seem more fact-oriented, civil and less likely to name call (bigots, really?) then left-wingers. Please know that your pitiful, transparent strategy of sterotyping people because you do not like their opinions is not exactly helpful in your cause to garner support for obama.

By the way, I did not vote for obama. The rest of my family did – lifelong democrats, you know. However, oblameus should not count on their votes this time. They will be voting Republican … just like me.

ABO 2012

ROFL!

Bush did it, huh? I thought the panty-waisted one was the anti-Bush??

Since I did not vote for Bush, I have no obligation to defend him. Although, I must say, I would take President Bush over the downgraded one on any given day.

“You’re out of step with the mainstream of decent America.”

About 1 in every 10 Democrats have left the Democratic Party and if you think the 2010 election was bad, then you had just better tie that propeller on your tin foil hat tightly down because you are going to be blown away (with obama) come Election Day, 2012.

Lol!

ABO 2012

Posted by: ceeLeelee | January 2, 2012, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

As you point out, the hypocrisy of the Republicans (and people like you) is astounding. You apply two standards, one for everyone else and a different standard for President Obama. It’s fine for President Bush to make one – and only one – visit to Pearl Harbor, but not okay for President Obama to make two visits. We get it. We get it all too clearly.

The lies and the hypocrisy are easy to see through – even if you are ignorant of it. Decent Americans have no respect for people like you and your juvenile antics. “LOL” indeed. You’re a joke alright, and very easy to see through.

Most Americans really are tired of the Republicans and their supporters obstruction. lying and cynical political manoeuvrings. Their old policies failed the country and they have nothing new to offer.

Vote all Republicans out of Congress!

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 says it is the job of the Militia, who’s officers are appointed by the States, that is authorized to suppress Insurrections. The military has no authority to “cross the Rubicon”. This is especially troublesome to Army officers and men who would be following illegal orders of a tyrant acting under color of law (if such a thing was to happen in the future).

Milgram Experiment.

Tiananmen Square.

What about the people who are surrounded by danger everyday that are not affiliated with the army? Some of us have never been in the army but we all see the possible car bombs and the dead birds fallling out of the sky probably caused by carbon monoxide poison! Our fellow citizens who have been involved in terrifying car accidents or lost a loved one due to a tragic accident have not had peace since the sad day especially if they live or travel by foot because they do not want to take a chance being in or causing an accident theirself have feelings of fear, devastation, feelings of being invaded by these monsterous killer cars that are slowly and almost invisibly taking our childrens fresh clean air . I feel we should all have a nature type trail , a safe haven , a safe path to school helping the plan of new jobs that the whole world will benefit from out of all the missing children in the wiorld how many of them were driven away, windows up, doors locked, music blaring and no way for anyone out of the car to here the child screaming in fear for their life I wonder how many cars can be called crime partner and no body suspends the driving of the cars that have ruined so many peaceful low stress days and are noise polluting and gross polluting the entire world !!! we need to worry about that we should have made sure our silent night was this last CHRISTMAS MAYbE GOD WOULD OF HAD MORE MERCY ON OUR SOULS AND MADE SURE THE CAR SALES AND PRE MATURE DEATHS started decreasing in stead of increasing carbon monoxide is worst than a bomb here in Fresno and every road is a fire hazard along with most garages full of flammable paints car cleaners and the kitchens with gas stoves that are usually attached to the garages where is our special privledges?

R.R. Richmond, you are looking for the ethical level of a Washington, the intellectual level of a Jefferson, the stamina for the good fight of a Teddy Roosevelt and the crisis leadership of an FDR. I would like to propose that Ron Paul is all of these things in one man.

The ethical level of Washington – Dr. Paul has been unwavering in his beliefs since the first day he held office. He has more lone “No” votes than all other representatives… possibly combined. He is a family man, having been married for 54 years to the same woman.

The intellectual level of a Jefferson – Dr. Paul is often referred to as the Thomas Jefferson of our time. He accurately predicted the housing market crash years before it happened. At a time when most economic scholars were praising the housing market and the opportunities it was creating for the middle class, Ron Paul was tell us that the housing bubble would eventually help to shrink the middle class when the bubble bursts.

The stamina for the good fight of a Teddy Roosevelt – Ron Paul has been fighting the good fight for 12 congressional terms. He has held steadfast and unwavering in his message of prosperity through peace, a thriving economy through sound money and maximum liberty for all Americans.

The crisis leadership of an FDR – I’m no fan of FDR, but Ron Paul calls for though changes to get our economy back on track. We got ourselves in to this mess by borrowing too much, spending too much, and removing too many of our personal liberties. Honestly, our current mess is an exact parallel of the FDR administration. More government, more borrowing and more spending will make the problem worse. History is clear on that. Ron Paul calls for a $1 trillion cut in federal spending during his first year as president. He plans to balance the budget by his 3rd year. That’s crisis leadership.

Search for the video titled “The Two-Minute Case for Ron Paul” to start with. I think if you give him a chance, you’ll find that he’s exactly what you’ve been looking for.

I won’t be voting for Prez Obama again. A great President will not be bulied by the Corrupt Corporations that run Congress and the Supreme Court. A good President would be sure to retain some power for his part of the Executive Branch. Take back the power from the military Kennedy’s assassination. Nor will I vote for the propagandists running as Republican’s. Not even Paul will do (not enough Gold in the world). We need a Bernie Sanders. Denis Kucinich level of decency in America Politics. We have not had a great or Nobte President since Kennedy. Corporate control is akin to suicide for Earth.

He should not have signed a bill allowing US citizens to be detained indefinitely. That IS a violations of the Constitution. However, whatever Obama says or does, it will only be worse if a Republican gets into the Oval Office.

Martial Law has been indirectly declared, it appears.

Two Words: Patriot Act.

Just another example of questionable provisions being attached to vital legislation in an effort to force the President into a politically volitile position.

“The president defended his action, writing that he signed the act, “chiefly because it authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, crucial services for service members and their families, and vital national security programs that must be renewed.”

Exactly. He signed it rather than veto it and allow the vital components to go unauthorized and funded.

He clearly states that he has serious “reservations” about the detention clause (but let’s be real, people…this has already happened and is already the law…this preceded his administration.)

And yes, he CAN go back to Congress and ask then to overturn this element (I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the Republicans to go along with this; this provides great SPIN, and they are not about to give it up without a long, protracted, highly visible fight).

OR he can overturn it through executive order (or do so once he gets a NEW Congress that actually has an interest in working with him/doing the work of the nation instead of making him one-term President at all costs).

Much ado about nothing, ultimately. He simply (reluctantly) renewed something the Right has been supporting for years to prevent vital authorizations from lapsing.

Ron Paul for president? Like that will magically fix everything? THEY own congress (both parties) and THEY own the executive (bribe jobs post-service for everyone at a high level) and THEY own the judiciary (looking at you Clarence Scalia) so Ron Paul would be as trapped in the system as Obama is right now. You piggies can squeal all you want but you’re still gonna be the bacon in THEIR bacon-lettuce-tomato-on-white. Chew on that

This is a good thing if Obama uses this to detain Illuminati and their puppets.

Hey Obamaphobes:
“I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.”

With reservations just isn’t good enough there Mr. President. At this point, I absolutely, positively do not trust anything you say. You’ve just stomped all over The Constitution and indicated that you do not value my rights as a citizen. While I don’t care for the GOP candidates, they’re looking better and better at this point.

Oh hold on, I’d better be careful. That might be construed as a terrorist statement.

Congress has become America’s biggest and most insidious enemy in our march toward fascism.

He signed the defense bill with the same “reservations” ….he is full of crap…..hurry up and vote him out….I could care less who’s next…..hope it’s RP, but I don’t think there’s enough rational people to get him in, too many other lunatics running around.

A lot of comments that say the bill doesn’t actually allow for detention of American citizens when you read it. I’ll take it for granted that the four star generals cited in the article know what they are talking about. It is ridiculous watching right-wingers up in arms about this, when they all defended the hell out of the assault on liberty when Bush did it. I’m proud to say that I’m as against this now as I was then.

This President is a joke for signing anything under reservation. He doesn’t have the backbone to stand for what he believes?! …I believe in liberty and I’m certainly not a Democrat.

So, Obama will leave office having done nothing but help further destroy what so many hoped he would repair. Thanks for nothing…
Vote out ALL incumbents, vote in new independents, unaffiliated with the Democrats, Republicans or (so-called, sadly) Tea Party.
THINKING IS FREE. Let’s all use our brains to make change!

So what do you expect? If we have open borders and super easy access to citizenship illegally, then we get this sort of response.

A balanced approach to citizenship means a balanced response to threats both external and internal. Alas, we have neither.

As for the Republicans in the crowd, yes YOU there, YOU, the ones going off about “Big O” and “hopey changey”, do you really think I’m stupid enough to believe a Republican would not have signed this bill? Do we need to point out that Republicans voted for and authored much of it? 93 of 100 senators voted in favor of it, the nays were evenly split. How anyone can make the arguement that this somehow was a party line vote is just beyond my understanding. OBVIOUSLY, any of our last four Presidents would have signed it.

I’m glad this hit mainstream news. so now that american people know, are we sitting and letting them slaughter us like sheep or are we going to impeach him before we are thrown in boxcars en-route to a fema camp?

imprisoning america to protect america is unamerican. Repeal NDAA and the patriot act! Lets the courts do its job it does a far better job and I LIKE due process and 3 branches of goverment.

In the name if keeping America safe we are destroying the very essence of what we used to stand for in the world. Shame on Obama for signing this and not being a leader and demanding it be removed before giving money to the military. The congress is already owned by big business and they now can elect whom they please with their multimillions of campaign money and we have a “scared” population who is giving away all their rights and the enemy has already won!

You oeople have read to much into this bill. Why would your dear GOP majority create a bill that hold funding of our Miltary troops and their famiiles hostiage to get passed. No one questioned that did they. Had he not signed the bill and Military families benefits would have been cut you would still complain. Some of your are so stupid it’s scary they allow you to vote.

Clearly, Obama is no fan of, nor respects the Constitution.

The hits just keep coming. Voting for someone who we were told was going to be this great uniter, this great transparent leader, this great scholar, this great person who will bring all this change to Washington – and seeing him be and do the opposite is painful. We were told these things as reasons to vote for him with no real actions to show he would actually do any of these things. Talk about feeling punched in the gut.

Let it be known, Obama put the final nail in the coffin that used to be AMERICA.

First this legislation does allow detaining of US Citizens.read this ABC article. Obam himself says so. Second, The original versions had language that exempted US citizens and Legal residents from military detentions. It was the Obama administration who insisted on removing that language least it “severely restrict their ability to fight terrorist. Obama’s veto threat was if the language was not removed. Finally, do you think it’s gonna be the first black president of the USA that’s gonna become a tyrant? He has no “roledex” worth speaking of. He’s a puppet for the real powers that be. He’s the face of the person that destroyed this country’s freedom. Subsequent Presidents will surely lock us down in a corporate dictatorship. Just imagine a power player like Newt Gingrich as President with that power. Finally, the American public is to blame for being so stupid as to continually return these sorry people back to office time and time again. Getting what one deserves comes to mind.

Well, I cannot vote Obama in 2012. This is the straw that broke the camel’s back. As a pro civil liberties guy, I would rather vote Santorum than Obama. But in reality, I will, most likely, be voting Romney in 2012. Anybody except Obama. I plan on changing my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. So long Democrats and good riddance.

Here’s an idea, America, “land of the free, home of the brave,” quit whining about the end of freedom and GET INTO THE STREETS! You’re the US of A, for God’s sake!

Give this man a cigar
Posted by: Blake | January 4, 2012, 11:26 am 11:26 am

First this legislation does allow detaining of US Citizens.read this ABC article. Obam himself says so. Second, The original versions had language that exempted US citizens and Legal residents from military detentions. It was the Obama administration who insisted on removing that language least it “severely restrict their ability to fight terrorist. Obama’s veto threat was if the language was not removed. Finally, do you think it’s gonna be the first black president of the USA that’s gonna become a tyrant? He has no “roledex” worth speaking of. He’s a puppet for the real powers that be. He’s the face of the person that destroyed this country’s freedom. Subsequent Presidents will surely lock us down in a corporate dictatorship. Just imagine a power player like Newt Gingrich as President with that power. Finally, the American public is to blame for being so stupid as to continually return these sorry people back to office time and time again. Getting what one deserves comes to mind.

Blake said it right.

FOLKS WAKE UP – Obama did not want to put this piece into play but the way CONGRESS wrote it into the bill it was wiggled in. I personally dont like Obama but this one is not his fault.

Blame congress – They ALL need to go, they are the freaking evil that is destroying our america, the america our forefathers bled out for and died for.

Folks stand up and petition them all.

Mike, this isnt Obama’s fault?! HE SIGNED THE BILL!!! Rand Paul tried to add an amendment that would exclude citizens… it was voted down. You can find that footage from the senate floor on youtube if you’re interested. I blame the congress, the house, the senate, and the Obama administration for passing this revolting legislation…

He should have never signed that bill. Even though I lean left I definately think that the powers of the government should definately be limited in certian areas. A republican would have signed the bill too and I still think that the democrats are the lesser of two evils, but honestly, he should have not hesitated to veto it as soon as it touched his desk. Politics is B.S. and giving the ability to indefinately detain citizens to a politically elected figure is a terrible idea.

Afraid – I believe you did not read what I wrote, I did in fact say it was Obama who wanted it removed.
Perhaps this is just a simple mix-up on your part.

No need to get smart here, you have a right to your opinion(s) as do we all and I respect that.

Review the above please you will see.

maybe people that own guns – other than for hunting, should be considered first as possible terrorist?

This from the very same guy that PROMISED to shut down GTMO because it held foreigners captured in the act of trying to kill Americans, due process?
It doesn’t matter what party you claim to adhere to. If you endorse this dude for doing this, you are a Traitor.

Obama had my vote, but he just lost it with this move. What a dissappointment….

I see political leadership class failure.The future looks a wee bit dark from here.I remember reading NK book and i was just blown away by THE SHOCK DOCTRINE the rise of disaster capitalism.I dont know how these cowards can get in front of a camera and spew unmitigated bs day in and day out.Apparently the hen has come home to roost.IT looks to me the global punks think if they can destroy America the world would be shocked to get in line?It would be a never ending battle the whole place will be wrecked.I think it will be more vertical than horizontal…the battle that is…edit that puppet

I have to say that I agree with this, if I do not, then…….

Can they look at this list of responses and check us out? Scary.

Revolution time?

Oh my God.I love this country ,but i do not feel safe any more.what happened to the land of the free
and home of the brave.If they can hold you just on suspision then what law can protect you and whose discretion establishes that suspision.this is scarey.

RON PAUL is one of the very few who oppose and consistently will not vote on this type of legislation. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE America, vote for Ron Paul 2012 and help save your country’s future, your civil freedoms, and perhaps your sanity….

The first one to be detained should be Obama!!

The full list of the traitorous, criminal U.S. Senators who voted for this bill

The U.S. Senators who voted for this bill are now unindicted traitors and criminals who have openly attempted to destroy the very U.S. Constitution they swore allegiance to. Notice how this list is dominated by Republicans?

All these Senators should now be publicly arrested and tried for seditious acts by a jury of their peers — a lawful right they would deny you!

Ayotte (R-NH)

Barrasso (R-WY)

Blunt (R-MO)

Boozman (R-AR)

Brown (R-MA)

Burr (R-NC)

Casey (D-PA)

Chambliss (R-GA)

Coats (R-IN)

Coburn (R-OK)

Cochran (R-MS)

Collins (R-ME)

Conrad (D-ND)

Corker (R-TN)

Cornyn (R-TX)

Crapo (R-ID)

DeMint (R-SC)

Enzi (R-WY)

Graham (R-SC)

Grassley (R-IA)

Hagan (D-NC)

Hatch (R-UT)

Heller (R-NV)

Hoeven (R-ND)

Hutchison (R-TX)

Inhofe (R-OK)

Inouye (D-HI)

Isakson (R-GA)

Johanns (R-NE)

Johnson (R-WI)

Kohl (D-WI)

Kyl (R-AZ)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Lee (R-UT)

Levin (D-MI)

Lieberman (ID-CT)

Lugar (R-IN)

Manchin (D-WV)

McCain (R-AZ)

McCaskill (D-MO)

McConnell (R-KY)

Menendez (D-NJ)

Moran (R-KS)

Nelson (D-NE)

Portman (R-OH)

Pryor (D-AR)

Reed (D-RI)

Risch (R-ID)

Roberts (R-KS)

Rubio (R-FL)

Sessions (R-AL)

Shaheen (D-NH)

Shelby (R-AL)

Snowe (R-ME)

Stabenow (D-MI)

Thune (R-SD)

Toomey (R-PA)

Vitter (R-LA)

Whitehouse (D-RI)

Wicker (R-MS)
This list was made by someone other than I. I am just passing it along.

ok, thanks. now I dont know what happens next, but I really don’t care anymore. bye

I am not voting for Obama but this really only applies to people suspected of terrorism. If you think it is such a big “change” and its an awful idea, we did the same thing on a much larger scale to the Japanese in WWII. Our nation has a history of doing this in times of great conflict. We are on the verge of WWIII, and if you don’t have any reason of being a suspected terrorist than you have nothing to worry about.

i don’t have new info, but i sure would like to know who voted for and who voted against. this should come up during the gop debates. thank you

The bottom line here folks, … is this:
“In essence, this NDAB piece of legislation allows the U.S. Government to re-classify any citizen who is simply a patriotic type person as a now perceived terrorist threat.”

Once our beloved President Obama took the oath of office…the dark powers behind the scenes made him a puppet whom dances to their agenda. The spooks are jockeying for position.

It will make no difference in any debate as to the how or why in this process. The question really should be; who drafted this document to terrorize the citizens who ignorantly support the present way they secretly do business that makes us all suspect. The FEMA camps are a reality.
…is this really what we want for our sons, daughters and their families. It is an outrage, and not what my father fought for in the past and noble engagements. (wars!) Look around when you drive. You will see the big blue signs telling you where to get emergency information in one of these fabricated emergencies. They are going to pull our proverbial teeth by cutting internet/phone service when it goes down. Coupled with Marshal Law, citizens will be ripe for the picking just by going out to speak to their frightened neighbors.

” We have no rights under the present system that is in place at this moment.” …and you didn’t even get a chance to be heard! You would be foolish to ignore the facts and no one will be able to hear you in the detention camps.

We have a problem on our empty plate.

The bible says that God will bring ruin to those ruining the earth and that God will also foil the plans of the wicked! God is love, so meditate on that love= give you energies to meditating on love not fear or hate but love and we as a nation will prevail against this NWO.

Now i dont want to sound like a conspiracy weirdo but this is not strange to all of you?why is the goverment not stoping this?why are we being treated like we are the terririost?why are they building fema detention camps all over the us?all is being put in place for their agenda i have no idea what that igenda is im just stating facts……….not saying the gov is bad just saying what their doing and noone seems to want to stop them from changing america to iraq