Feb 10, 2012 7:39pm

Obama’s Budget Forecasts $1.3 Trillion Deficit

President Obama’s 2013 budget, which will land with a thud on Congress’ doorstep Monday, shows the price the country continues to pay for the recession, projecting a deficit of $1.3 trillion for 2012, the White House said Friday.

Under the administration’s tax and spending proposals, the deficit would fall to $901 billion next year.

The budget largely echoes the domestic proposals that the president has been pushing for the last year, including spending for job creation and tax increases for the wealthy.

The president’s tax reform proposal would raise $1.5 trillion over the next decade, largely from eliminating the Bush-era tax cuts for the upper-income brackets. Obama will also continue to call for a “Buffett rule,” which would require millionaires to pay at least 30 percent of their income in taxes.

To further reduce the deficit, the president will propose $360 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and call for $278 billion in savings from non-health benefits programs such as agriculture subsidies and federal civilian worker pensions.

In terms of spending, the budget will include $350 billion for short-term job creation programs and $475 billion in infrastructure projects.

The election-year budget, however, is likely to gather dust on a Capitol Hill shelf. According to the White House, the budget will contain many items from a September proposal to the failed congressional deficit “super-committee,” which disagreed over tax increases and cuts to entitlement programs.

The president will unveil his budget in person in a speech Monday at Northern Virginia Community College.

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President Obama vowed to HALVE the deficit in four years. He has fallen far, far short of this promise.

He is an EPIC FAILURE.

Posted by: Sad But True | February 10, 2012, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

What can be said? Another broken campaign promise. I don’t believe anything he says.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 10, 2012, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

How is Obama supposed to get anything done with this congress? This congress is one of the worst in the history of this country. Even Paris Hilton has a higher approval rating. Why are we giving tax cuts to the rich? Rich people dont create jobs, the middle class people do.

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Good gawd he has “changed directions” again…

Posted by: whining liberal | February 10, 2012, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs created tens of thousands of jobs directly and many times that indirectly. How many have you created?

Posted by: Bill | February 10, 2012, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

“An administration official said Obama was proposing to cut the deficit, which private economists project will rise to $1.5 trillion this year, through a mixture of tax increases on wealthier Americans and spending cuts.” Feb 2009

Obama’s projected budget deficit for next year is $900 billion.

So, he will have cut the deficit by $600 billion instead of $750 billion. It’s not as bad as the right wing is trying to pretend.

Remember, Bush said he was doing to eliminate the deficit and reduce the debt – instead he doubled the debt.

Obama is much closer to meeting the target of his promise. Much, much closer.

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Good to see Obamacare has reduced the deficit as promised. Oh wait.

Posted by: Stacey | February 10, 2012, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

BUT BUSH!!!!1!!11!! LOL!!

Posted by: Stacey | February 10, 2012, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

How many jobs has Mitt Romney created? LOL!

Posted by: bainman | February 10, 2012, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

POSTED BY: JOHNNY | FEBRUARY 10, 2012, 8:36 PM 8:36 PM, so how many have you created today?

Posted by: Lizzie | February 10, 2012, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

POSTED BY: BAINMAN | FEBRUARY 10, 2012, 8:54 PM 8:54 PM more the Pres.Obama

Posted by: Lizzie | February 10, 2012, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

What part of “President Obama vowed to HALVE the deficit in four years” didn’t you understand? He UNDERESTIMATED the 2012 deficit by HALF A TRILLION dollars.

Posted by: Libs Stink At Math | February 10, 2012, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

bill gates and steve jobs wouldnt have created anything if it werent for the customers buying their products. Neither of them invented the computer and neither of them invented the operating system. The middle class are the economy drivers of this country. The small mom and pop shops, the 99% of us that didnt inherit riches from our parents like romney. You dont really believe that the 1% keeps this economy going do you? If so then please take an economics class.

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Posted by: Stacey | February 10, 2012, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

I know you Republicans would like to forget about the record of your last candidate for President, but the facts remain.

Bush promised to eliminate the deficit and paying down the national debt – instead he doubled the debt.

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

“He has lied so much to get into office, only to destroy what America once was.” – DeadBroke

NoBo is too incompetent to destroy America.
The people will throw him to the curb in November.
It doesn’t matter who the Repub candidate is Bama will lose.

Change is a Conservative in the White House in 2013.

Posted by: Noz | February 10, 2012, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Posted by: Libs Stink At Math | February 10, 2012, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

First of all, it wasn’t a campaign promise – it was a stated target after he took office made in February 2009. And it was targeted at ‘by the end’ of his first term, ie. his budget for 2013.

Obama’s projected budget deficit for 2013 is $900 billion.

“An administration official said Obama was proposing to cut the deficit, which private economists project will rise to $1.5 trillion this year, through a mixture of tax increases on wealthier Americans and spending cuts.” Feb 2009

So, he will have cut the deficit by $600 billion instead of $750 billion. It’s not as bad as the right wing is trying to pretend.

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

The auto bailout alone created more jobs in this country than Mitt Romney and Steve Jobs put together.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

“Bush promised to eliminate the deficit and paying down the national debt – instead he doubled the debt.” – Half Truth

After 2007 when the Demos took control of the Congress “Bushie’s” deficit spending increased 2 fold.

Posted by: Noz | February 10, 2012, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Take an economics class yourself. The top 10% pay over 70% of all federal income taxes. The top 5% are responsible for over 40% of all consumer spending. The top 10% are responsible for 50% of all consumer spending. Our economy would collapse without the wealthy.

Posted by: Bill | February 10, 2012, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

does anybody really care about the deficit anymore? It’s all fake monopoly money anyway. I used to worry about the debt then I realized its just an illusion. If the system was really legit it would have collapsed long ago when we were in debt just 3 trillion. We can be in debt 50 trillion, would anything really change? nope. If you dont agree with me then prove me wrong. I would love to see it.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2012, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

However the very top earners pay a smaller share of their total income in all types of taxes and fees than working class Americans do.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Bill you’re implying that the federal govt is the driver of the economy. WRONG AGAIN, if the federal govt is driving the economy then you have a serious problem. The PRIVATE SECTOR drives the economy. What would happen if bill gates and warren buffet fell off the planet? easy their money would be divided up between more people and spent by more people. The top 1% do not run the economy, the benefit from the economy but they do not drive it. Rich people a lot of times actually hinder growth by hoarding cash and taking jobs overseas. The money supply needs to have good circulation like blood in the human body. The top 1% are the equivilent of a blood clot. Take that economy class.

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

All of the Republican budget proposals so far, Romney’s, the Ryan Budget, and Gingrich’s , will increase deficits even faster, with an enormous accumulation of debt over the next ten years.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

2002 157.8 Billion Dollar Deficit 194.1 Billion Deficit R D R (WH, Senate, House)
2003 374 Billion Dollar Deficit 449.52 Billion Deficit R R R
2004 413 Billion Dollar Deficit 483.61 Billion Deficit R R R
2005 319 Billion Dollar Deficit 361.27 Billion Deficit R R R
2006 248 Billion Dollar Deficit 272.23 Billion Deficit R R R
2007 162 Billion Dollar Deficit 172.89 Billion Deficit R D D
2008 455 Billion Dollar Deficit 467.63 Billion Deficit R D D
2009 1416 Billion Dollar Deficit 1459.79 Billion Deficit D D D
2010 1294 Billion Dollar Deficit 1312.37 Billion Deficit D D D
2011 1299 Billion Dollar Deficit 1299 Billion Deficit D D R

Posted by: newcountryman | February 10, 2012, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

They aren’t taking in enough revenue. We had a recession you guys pretend didn’t happen when you whine. They can’t fix it because you guys cry if a billionaire gets a tax hike. Then you cry over a deficit. Can’t win with this mentality.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 10, 2012, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

The Bush era Republicans tried to hide their big deficit spending by excluding the cost of the wars and the huge prescription drug plan from their budgets. 2008-2009 The financial crash happened at the end of 2008.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

“Under the administration’s tax and spending proposals, the deficit would fall to $901 billion next year”… hahaha wanna bet?

Posted by: jrobinson | February 10, 2012, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

“you’re implying that the federal govt is the driver of the economy.”

Posted by: johnny | February 10, 2012, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I never made that claim. I never said anything about the top 1%. Like it or not, Moody’s Analytics research has shown that our economy is driven by the wealthy. Without spending by the wealthy, your taxes would skyrocket.

Posted by: Bill | February 10, 2012, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

I’ll bet you $10,000

Posted by: mitt | February 10, 2012, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

Posted by: newcountryman | February 10, 2012, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

You are aware there was a huge economic crash on Bush’s watch in 2008 arent’ you? Do you not have even the vaguest clue what that means to a budget? The stipping out of revenues. The demands on government resources? Not a clue? Quit pretending.

Posted by: Jack | February 10, 2012, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

the wealthy and corporations are not spending, not in this country at least, and are just sitting on between 1 and 2 trillion dollars. When spending by the private sector is low during an economic slowdown, government becomes the spender of last resort.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Posted by: Jack | February 10, 2012, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

If you had the vaguest clue about finance you’d be wealthier than the people you argue with. You’re nowhere close.

Posted by: Mary | February 10, 2012, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

“You are aware there was a huge economic crash on Bush’s watch in 2008 arent’ you? Do you not have even the vaguest clue what that means to a budget? The stipping out of revenues. The demands on government resources?”

I hear what you’re saying Jack – Then why on earth would Obama promise in 2009 to cut the deficit in half in four years?? And now we’re treated to annual Trillion dollar plus deficits. Not a clue? Definitely. But hopefully we can remedy that in November.

Posted by: Logicsgood5 | February 10, 2012, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Eliminating the Bush-era tax cuts and adding the “Buffett rule,” millionaire 30% minimum tax the best the President can can do is a deficit of $1.3 trillion for 2013! This proves that spending cuts are needed ASAP? This is theft of America’s future and is criminal.

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 10, 2012, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

“But hopefully we can remedy that in November”————————How? The Republicans are proposing even bigger deficits.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

“This proves that spending cuts are needed ASAP?”——————-They already tried that all over Europe. It’s been a disaster. At least because the Democrats have not allowed any big spending cuts at the federal level [but unfortunately could not stop them at state and local levels] the private sector here in the US has been deleveraging. The same cannot be said of Europe where austerity was implemented.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Give it a rest, Skip.

Posted by: Mary | February 10, 2012, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

I voted for Obama in 2008….I will NOT make the same mistake again in November. I’m a Catholic and it APPALLS me what Obama has done to Catholics. He had so much support from Catholics in 2008, but that will change in November, even with this compromise on birth control….the damage has been done. Now the truth about Obama has been exposed…he WANTS government to rule our lives, even to the point of church and state. I don’t believe ANYTHING Obama says anymore…..I agree with the previous post….the news media doesnt report the truth about what Obama is doing to our country, what he is trying to do to our religious beliefs. Disgraceful!!!

Posted by: David | February 10, 2012, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Eliminating the Bush-era tax cuts and adding the “Buffett rule,” millionaire 30% minimum tax the best the President can can do is a deficit of $1.3 trillion for 2013!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 10, 2012, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

You’re not reading very carefully Common_Sense, the deficit for 2013 is estimated to fall to $900 billion approx.

Posted by: Trayner | February 10, 2012, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

“You have to cut spending and the deficit by more than the private economy falls, so the imbalance is still corrected. You must run a primary surplus. You must do so even though it is difficult and even though the nation goes through an economic depression.

You cannot borrow your way out of debt. You must balance the budget with either major tax increases, spending cuts or both. You must do so even though it sucks, even though it brings major pain, even though the nation and her people will scream bloody murder. You must do so even if there is risk that you get civil disorder and overthrow of the government.

Mathematics are not subject to political whim or what people want. Mathematics just is. That’s all. And mathematics are that you cannot borrow more than you take in on a continual basis; you must eventually stop, you must eventually balance the budget, you must in fact have government growing at a slower pace than the economy, which means if the economy is shrinking government must shrink faster!

These are all uncomfortable truths, but they are also all truths.

They are truths in Greece, they are truths in Italy, they are truths in Portugal, in Spain, in Great Britain and in the United States.”

Posted by: Karl D | February 10, 2012, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

why on earth would Obama promise in 2009 to cut the deficit in half in four years??

Posted by: Logicsgood5 | February 10, 2012, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

He’ll have done just about that.

Obama’s projected budget deficit for 2013 is $900 billion.

“An administration official said Obama was proposing to cut the deficit, which private economists project will rise to $1.5 trillion this year, through a mixture of tax increases on wealthier Americans and spending cuts.” Feb 2009

So, he will have cut the deficit by $600 billion instead of $750 billion (half of $1.5 trillion). It’s not as bad as the right wing is trying to pretend.

Posted by: truth | February 10, 2012, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

“that you cannot borrow more than you take in on a continual basis; you must eventually stop”—————–Yes, we can stop when we get unemployment below 5%. Until then interest rates have never been lower and investors are lining up to lend us money. If the Republicans want to run on the ‘creating jobs is too expensive’ platform, they are more than welcome to.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

From Factcheck.org:

“The nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office, and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years.

That’s a huge increase to be sure — 44.5 percent. And the Congressional Budget Office now projects that it will grow to more than $16 trillion by the end of the current fiscal year on Sept. 30. At that point, the debt will have increased by more dollars in Obama’s first four years than it did in George W. Bush’s entire eight-year tenure, when it rose by $4.9 trillion. The rise under Obama would then be the biggest dollar increase for any president in U.S. history.”

Posted by: Sad But True | February 10, 2012, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Posted by: Trayner | February 10, 2012, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

You probably believed Obama when he said he’d close Gitmo.

Posted by: Carl | February 10, 2012, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

These are all uncomfortable truths, but they are also all truths Karl D——————–No, sorry, they’re just opinions. -and economists who have been far more accurate in their predictions disagree with most of them.

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

Posted by: Sad But True | February 10, 2012, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Over $1.25 TRILLION of the current debt ‘attributed’ to Obama resulted from interest on the debt George W. Bush left. That’s just the interest on the debt Bush left, never mind the war commitments, the destroyed revenues due to the economic collapse on his watch, the unpaid for seniors drug plan,the huge deficits from his tax cuts, and on and on.

It’s also what happens when you walk through the door into the largest economic collapse since the Great Depression. The total public debt is largely a legacy of war, economic recession, and inflation. President Obama was handed two of those three, including not just one, but two wars.

Posted by: Dan | February 10, 2012, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Posted by: face the music | February 10, 2012, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Obama promised us 3.5 million green jobs three years ago. Where are they?

Posted by: Mary | February 10, 2012, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Obama promised us 3.5 million green jobs three years ago. Where are they?

Posted by: Mary | February 10, 2012, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

He didn’t promise to create 3.5 million green jobs in three year. That is an untruth baby, another one.

Posted by: Dan | February 11, 2012, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Posted by: Mary | February 10, 2012, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Mary, you’re understating the number. He actually promised 5 MILLION green jobs back in 2008.

From Obama’s November 15, 2008 radio address:

“That starts with the kinds of long-term investments that we’ve neglected for too long. That means putting two million Americans to work rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, and schools. It means investing $150 billion to build an American green energy economy that will create five million new jobs, while freeing our nation from the tyranny of foreign oil, and saving our planet for our children. It means making health care affordable for anyone who has it, accessible for anyone who wants it, and reducing costs for small businesses. And it also means giving every child the world-class education they need to compete with any worker, anywhere in the world.”

Posted by: Bill | February 11, 2012, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Well the green job sector has been outgrowing most others by about 2 to 1, but overall job growth has been slow since the Fed took a timeout, Obama cannot force the Republicans to legislate another stimulus and Republicans want to let the economy crawl back all on its own. At that rate we won’t hit full employment again until about 2019 [it was 2025, but the employment numbers jumped up a bit]. I don’t think the public will have the patience for it, especially when investors want to throw money at us but the government wants to be stubborn about borrowing further.

Posted by: face the music | February 11, 2012, 12:12 am 12:12 am

From Politifact:

“The Council of Economic Advisers — which advises the president on economic matters –claims that 225,000 green jobs have been saved or created through the first nine months of 2010. This was accomplished through an $80 billion injection from the stimulus. The White House further predicts that 825,000 green jobs will be filled by the end of President Obama”s current term in office. Both numbers, however, are estimates.

Even if the 225,000 number is accurate, it’s clear that President Obama has a long way to go in fulfilling his pledge to create 5 million green jobs. June 2011 employment data evinces the difficulty in fulfilling this pledge — with anemic job growth of 18,000 and a rise in the unemployment rate to 9.2 percent. Furthermore, with political debate focused on cutting expenditures, future government investment in such programs appears unlikely.”

Posted by: Bill | February 11, 2012, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Posted by: Bill | February 11, 2012, 12:09 am 12:09 am

5 million green jobs in 10 YEARS! TEN YEARS! If you right wing donuts knew how to read you be a lot further ahead.

From Politifact:

“Throughout his 2008 presidential campaign Barack Obama promised to create 5 million “green” jobs to both mitigate unemployment and boost the nascent clean energy sector. “We’ll invest $15 billion a year OVER THE NEXT DECADE in renewable energy, creating five million new green jobs that pay well, can’t be outsourced and help end our dependence on foreign oil,” Obama said during the fall of 2008.”

Posted by: Dan | February 11, 2012, 2:36 am 2:36 am

DAN | FEBRUARY 10, 2012, 11:52 PM, SAID:

“Over $1.25 TRILLION of the current debt ‘attributed’ to Obama resulted from interest on the debt George W. Bush left.”
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LOL! ……….. Dan, you really don’t expect right-whiners to understand any of this do you?

When the Bush Tax Cuts were introduced at the same time that we were borrowing to pay for 2 wars, borrowing to pay for the Republican introduced MEDICARE Part D, and borrowing to pay for a new federal DEPARTMENT created under a Republican administration with a Republican congress… LOL!… yeah, the same ones that always say that they’re for “smaller government” (“pssst, a little secret here, they only say that when they no longer control the White House”)…

…. anyway, when the Bush Tax Cuts were introduced while all that spending was going on, you really don’t think that any of the Republi-C-R-E-T-_N’s had brains large enough to think about all the future interest that was going to be charged to the American Taxpayer, did you? Man, Dan… LOL!… you’re sure expecting a lot from a bunch of Shallow “R’s”, aren’t you?

Posted by: Shallow "R's" Are Fun to Laugh At | February 11, 2012, 5:55 am 5:55 am

NEWCOUNTRYMAN | FEBRUARY 10, 2012, 9:40 PM, SAID:

“2007 162 Billion Dollar Deficit 172.89 Billion Deficit R D D
.2008 455 Billion Dollar Deficit 467.63 Billion Deficit R D D”
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LMAO! ……. If you go look at the composition of the U.S. Senate in 2007 and 2008, it was actually equally split 50-50 (R’s and D’s)

Only a Shallow “R”, would count the senate during that time period as a “D”. Probably someone who spends his entire day on ABC News blogs “whining”, and doesn’t have the brains to look up anything because he’s too busy “complaining”… LOL!

Posted by: Shallow "R's" Are Fun to Laugh At | February 11, 2012, 6:00 am 6:00 am

Posted by: Dan | February 11, 2012, 2:36 am 2:36 am

At first you called Mary a liar for claiming Obama said he promised to create 3.5 million green jobs. Then you dithered and said he didn’t claim he’d create 3.5 million green jobs in three years. Then you were embarrassed by Bill who revealed Obama himself said he’d create 5 MILLION GREEN JOBS (a figure you weren’t even aware of). It’s irrelevant if Obama said it would take a decade to create them or not. Politifact and BLS projections clearly show he has no chance of hitting that number (the number you didn’t know in the first place).

Posted by: Stacey | February 11, 2012, 8:33 am 8:33 am

Pay 30% of your income in taxes so Dictator Obama and the liberals can throw away your money on the liberal agenda like Solyndra and Fisker $100,000 cars nobody wants to buy.

Posted by: Cathy | February 11, 2012, 8:53 am 8:53 am

“it was actually equally split 50-50″ – Shallow Laughing D-boy

Actually it was 49R 51D.
Remember that Arlen Spector was really a Democrat.
Who on earth would get that little factiod wrong?

“Probably someone who spends his entire day on ABC News blogs “whining”, and doesn’t have the brains to look up anything because he’s too busy “complaining”” – Shallow Laughing D-boy

Posted by: Noz | February 11, 2012, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Looks like Shallow “R” didn’t have the brains to look this up either. The US Senate in 2007 had 49 Republicans and 49 Democrats. Leiberman was an Independent because he apparently wasn’t liberal enough for the Democrats and Bernie Sanders was an Independent because the Socialist party is not currently a viable political party (although most of the Democrats are Socialists).

Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | February 11, 2012, 9:00 am 9:00 am

“If you right wing donuts knew how to read you be a lot further ahead.”

Posted by: Dan | February 11, 2012, 2:36 am 2:36 am

I wish left wingers were capable of something other than juvenile insults and name calling as a form of political discussion. They apparently aren’t capable of anything more adult. It’s an embarrassment – juvenile.

Posted by: Jamie | February 11, 2012, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Obama said himself if things weren’t better in three years he should be a one term President. I agree, things are worse, much worse.

Posted by: Freedom | February 11, 2012, 9:27 am 9:27 am

It’s time to admit that Obama has utterly failed at the budget and telling the truth about “math”. We are going bankrupt, very quickly.

Posted by: lexington lady | February 11, 2012, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Hope and Change. Translation: We can all only Hope (probably in vain) that we have some small Change left to jingle in our pockets when Obama’s term is mercifully ended.

Posted by: bravenewworld | February 11, 2012, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Increase deficits does not mean increase spending. Less revenues drive up the deficit. Also, those interest rates are piling up while we get less revenues.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 9:36 am 9:36 am

OUR president IS doing THE best he CAN. Stop COMPLANEING and just pay YOUR taxes.

Posted by: demnme5 | February 11, 2012, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Yep. Still nothing has changed: Obama still sucks. Pretty darn obvious to most. Actually, now more obvious than ever.

Posted by: sai | February 11, 2012, 9:38 am 9:38 am

“Increase deficits does not mean increase spending.”
POSTED BY: EMERALD_SPARKS
In this case, they do reflect MASSIVE increased spending. Please stop BSing so badly. Obama is spending us right down the drain.

Posted by: Captain Obvious | February 11, 2012, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 9:36 am 9:36 am

if you’re such a genius at finance and economics, why aren’t you rich?

Posted by: Susan | February 11, 2012, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Of course the Republicans will reject this budget proposal. There was never even a shred of a doubt about that, regardless of what was in it. Since the House actually writes the budget anyway, let’s see what they come up with. Let me guess: more tax cuts for the rich, more program cuts for the poor, and less regulation of Wall Street and the energy industry.

Posted by: Disgusted with gop | February 11, 2012, 9:55 am 9:55 am

The democratically-controlled Senate hasn’t even passed a budget in several YEARS. And they rejected Obama’s last adolescent attempt at a “budget” out of hand. Let’s see, now: more massive spending for little or no benefit, except as political payoffs and ideological (insolvency) consistency.

Posted by: Disgusted with obama | February 11, 2012, 10:03 am 10:03 am

“The Republicans are proposing even bigger deficits.”
POSTED BY: FACE THE MUSIC
So you also believe in reverse-reality and blatant bs. Hey, granted it sometimes works. But I doubt it will in this next election, since it’s mostly a second look at the left’s lame lies.

Posted by: Gypsy | February 11, 2012, 10:14 am 10:14 am

I guess Obama’s dumb and dogmatic decisions are going to catch up with him, and lose him the election. I thought he was brighter than this.

Posted by: davem | February 11, 2012, 10:24 am 10:24 am

From Factcheck.org:
“The nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office, and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years.
That’s a huge increase to be sure — 44.5 percent. And the Congressional Budget Office now projects that it will grow to more than $16 trillion by the end of the current fiscal year on Sept. 30. At that point, the debt will have increased by more dollars in Obama’s first four years than it did in George W. Bush’s entire eight-year tenure, when it rose by $4.9 trillion. The rise under Obama would then be the biggest dollar increase for any president in U.S. history.”
POSTED BY: SAD BUT TRUE
The essential and salient facts, for sure. Worth noting.

Posted by: jerseybabe | February 11, 2012, 10:27 am 10:27 am

I will tattoo, using modern font, Mr. Obama’s these words as Senator onto his forget, wrapping around his midsection and twirl them around his legs to his angles and feet.

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

Posted by: The boy with the dog tattoo | February 11, 2012, 10:31 am 10:31 am

According the CBO our total revenues received during the year 2000 was 2,025,198 trillion , year 2009 (first year president came in cleaning out the dung) during our great recession by which occured under GWB by which over 700,000 jobs a month were being lost, and we nearly had a depression our total revenues received 2,104,995. Anyone with simple elementary school mathematical abilities can figure this one out, the addition of homeland security, 2 wars and medicare part D and real dollars so the hype about increase spending is true, but were republican administration endorsed big time.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Shallow “R”s: year 2000 our total revenue receipt was 2,025, 198, our total receipts for 2009 by which president Obama’s administration’s government first year funded by GWB’s last budget was 2,104, 995 trillion, I can’t believe that people can’t see that 2000 dollars are not the same as 2009 dollars as far as purchasing power especially with 2 wars, added homeland security of 200,000 employees, and medicare part D.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 11:04 am 11:04 am

@EMERALD_SPARKS
Same old tired stuff of trying to tie it all to the past, and the past administration. You evade the fact that much of the deficit is NEW spending from Obama himself. And this is precisely why “The rise under Obama… the biggest dollar increase for any president in U.S. history…” as correctly cited earlier. Sorry, but the talking points simply are too stale and fallacious to work anymore. Obama is truly a very huge spender. It is not merely a myth.

Posted by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS | February 11, 2012, 11:13 am 11:13 am

I doubt that Obama can successfully deny his big spending for little gain — he will try, as are others on here, but it is not convincing to most. I read the same blog on the NY Times, EMERALD_SPARKS, but unfortunately, that article you are so heavily borrowing from is both partisan and incomplete in the “facts” it presents.

Posted by: bereal | February 11, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am

BEREAL: No article, looking it up on the government tables, great resources, you should try it sometime. Ever check out the BLS, GPO, CBO? Government historical tables? Conservative and Progressive sites lean towards their beliefs, I go onto the direct sites, As I said increase deficits does not necessarily mean increase spending.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Captain Obvious: LOL, President Obama’s first budget his expenditures were 61 billion dollars less than president’s Bush’s last budget for 2009. But the deficit increased, do you have an idea why? Give you a hint less revenues.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 11:31 am 11:31 am

The auto bailout alone created more jobs in this country than Mitt Romney and Steve Jobs put together.POSTED BY: FACE THE MUSIC | FEBRUARY 10, 2012, 9:11 PM 9:11 PM
not to mention the hundred thousands of job that were lost, plus the town of Pontiac, Mi. going bankrupt after closing the Pontiac line.
DISGUSED WITH GOP, you do not listen Prince Reid already said, we don’t need a budget, so I wonder who will vote against it, HINT: THE DEMOCRATS

Posted by: Lizzie | February 11, 2012, 11:56 am 11:56 am

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS: Last budget for president Bush 2009, president Obama’s first year working with the budget of the previous president, 2010 expenditures were 61 billion less than GWB’s last budget but the deficit increased. Less revenues, jobs were lost. Still funding 2 wars, the added 200,000 employees to homeland security under GWB(largest increase in government size) and medicare part D.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Simple ELEMENTARY school math…I’m really afraid for this country.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Here’s the facts regarding how we got so far in debt for anyone that cares : ” The Pew Center reported in April 2011 the cause of a $12.7 trillion shift in the debt situation, from a 2001 CBO forecast of a cumulative $2.3 trillion surplus by 2011 versus the estimated $10.4 trillion public debt we actually face in 2011. The major drivers were:

Revenue declines due to the recession, separate from the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003: 28%
Defense spending increases: 15%
Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003: 13%
Increases in net interest: 11%
Other non-defense spending: 10%
Other tax cuts: 8%
Obama Stimulus: 6%
Medicare Part D: 2%
Other reasons: 7%[33] ”
———————- I figured a healthy dose of reality was in order as some people are obvious way high on something , kool aid perhaps ? Anyway please note the part about a projected “surplus ” before Bush2 spent the Treasury dry by letting his private Defense contractor buds (aka Cheney and friends ) get their greedy little hands into the taxpayers’ pockets /wallets with no-bid sweetheart contracts . Here’s the thing though ; the USA didn’t EVER have a trillion dollars in reserve to spend on any wars or anything else , so we borrowed it as needed ( with interest ) and at the same time cut into the revenue stream ( Bush tax cuts for the rich ) . Stupid in the most conniving and greedy 1%er loving way possible. Yeah , let the “little people” pay for it all , while the elitist and pampered rich kids like don’t even have to worry about having to go fight anyway( no draft to dodge anymore , sweet !) . Be All That You Can Be ! Go get your lower-middle class peon grunt arm / head blown off so that some smug 1%er can have their platinum parachute tax cuts ! Yay ! Go Bush ! Mission Accomplished ! ( i.e. ream America )

Posted by: davem | February 11, 2012, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

“Simple ELEMENTARY school math…I’m really afraid for this country.”
POSTED BY: EMERALD_SPARKS
Yes, too bad neither you nor DAVEM can get it. You still want to evade Obama’s own spending — which is massive indeed, as is the interest on his added debt. Estimates vary on how much that all is, but the amount is still many billions of dollars. Sorry you are so strenuously straining to convince people otherwise, and so testy when they won’t swallow your disingenuous bs.

Posted by: jimmie | February 11, 2012, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

“As I said increase deficits does not necessarily mean increase spending.”
POSTED BY: EMERALD_SPARKS
You can say it as much as want, but spending has increased like a boatload of drunken sailors on leave under Obama. Get real. If you were so obviously right that there has been little or no increase in spending under Obama, then Obama and his more official minions would be firmly making that case. Instead they defend their wild spending as either “good” or even “necessary”, but even they (dishonest as they are) rarely just flat-out deny that Obama is spending a huge amount of bucks.

Posted by: captain obvious | February 11, 2012, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Let’s see, now: Obamacare, and the various failed stimulus packages (not failures as political payoffs and pork, however), and Solyndra come to mind right away. I’m sure there is far more that doesn’t immediately come to mind for me. But, anyway, none of those are due to any past administration, and all are either bureaucratic boondoggles or fairly blatant corruption. Obama is real good with our money. The debt just keeps on rising faster and faster because someone sprinkled fairy dust into the wind. LOL.

Posted by: jasmine | February 11, 2012, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Sorry, EMERALD_SPARKS, but it clear to me that you are just aping some of the main points in that pretty partisan NY Times article. And that might not be so bad — if it weren’t so partisan. If you wish to argue that Obama’s spending is beneficial, then have it. Oh wait, that argument isn’t flying too well anymore, so now the shift is to try to hoodwink and bamboozle people into believing Obama really isn’t spending much at all of his own volition, other than what was already being spent. It’s very silly and very lame.

Posted by: bereal | February 11, 2012, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

THE president IS doing THE best he CAN. Stop COMPLANEING and just pay YOUR taxes. Taxes MUST be INCREASED!

Posted by: demnme5 | February 11, 2012, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

“It’s time to admit that Obama has utterly failed at the budget and telling the truth about “math”. We are going bankrupt, very quickly.”
POSTED BY: LEXINGTON LADY
Unfortunately, this appears to be the truth.

Posted by: dan | February 11, 2012, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

“…( i.e. ream America )”
[Davem]
You’d enjoy that wouldn’t you? And congrats on already having 4 years (nearly) of doing just that.

Posted by: meg | February 11, 2012, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

POSTED BY: DAVEM | FEBRUARY 11, 2012, 2:10 PM 2:10 PM

Finally, a post that makes sense to us intellectuals.

Posted by: Dan | February 11, 2012, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

BEREAL: Source that NY Times article for me please because I got my figures from FDSYS, direct from the government source, I haven’t read the NY times in months. Where do you think your people get the figures from? However, they assume you guys don’t know which I’m sure you don’t, that higher deficits does not necessarily = increase in spending. Why do you suppose the credit agencies want us to increase taxes and cut spending simultaneously?

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 11, 2012, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Don’t worry folks. I already know Shallow R (X-Republican) only picks and choses and posts the “facts” that fit into his Liberal mind set that hates 95% of the people who post on this blog. I’m guessing he was picked on as a child. And the insults in his posts come with the territory. This time he decided to shout down the messenger. I didn’t make the numbers up. Interpret the reasons why they are as they are as you see fit.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 11, 2012, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Harry Reid (D) has been the Senate Majority Leader since Jan 3, 2007. But Shallow (aka X-Republican) won’t respond.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 11, 2012, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

I am so sick of hearing him say something about letting the Bush tax cuts expire. For goodness sakes, he has had 3 years to do it and he does nothing. He should have just done it the first year and we will have seen the results by now. What year is this budget really for? I thought they haven’t had one in over 1000 days.

Posted by: Rafe | February 11, 2012, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

For sure, a big LOL to the wild whim that “higher deficits does not necessarily = increase in spending.”
EMERALD_SPARKS
Hypothetically, that actually may be sometimes true, or partly true, as in not reflecting truly “new” spending, especially when the increase is small. Here, however, it is an absurd statement and claim, since most of the fast and huge increase in debt (not what he started with, but the increase) is Obama’s own doing.

Posted by: Jerry | February 12, 2012, 10:28 am 10:28 am

May I expand a bit my previous post that contained all that is within our current and recently past purview regarding these roundabout and raucously riling issues? Thanks. Let me expand on that a bit: the concentric metrics of Obama spasms in maledictory attempts at reconciling with wacky weirdsters from the left has resulted in the degenerate deconstruction of the maladies of misty mists afflicting his naughty attempts at radical reelection. He made a mistake, it can be ceremoniously cretinized and rectified by November, with luck and more jock-strap like support from sycophants everywhere. Surely and sanctimoniously, craven charts and gluttoneous graphs surreptitious stats can aid in the visual and experiential experiences of pontificatory propaganda on and surrounding our egregious attempts at marauding and marranging the moronical masses who no not knowingly know which dire direction to praise, plead or stumblingly stumble, or even truculently trot. Heed my advice and info contained solidly and slippery within, or just be a clear dummy or a prancing poltroon.

Posted by: davem | February 12, 2012, 10:58 am 10:58 am

LOL. Saying Obama has a “budget” is like saying a hooker has an essay on chastity.

Posted by: Boris Spider | February 13, 2012, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Remember the old line “..if you got it, spend it.” It seems Obama and his Merry Men (who removed themselves to Chicago) want to correct it for us poor uneducated slobs….it is now “if you don’t have it, spend it anyway….we’ll just add it to the deficit for you.” Think about it, folks…..it’s our future, not theirs who will suffer for their ineptitude.

Posted by: Reggie | February 19, 2012, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

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