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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-seeks-to-seize-the-debate-the-note/#comment-28678877</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Green.Goddess and others.

Please stop referencing third parties and giving me hearsay.

If the defense spending is to be reduced to 2.6% trillion of GDP - that means Obama plans to heavily cut the military capabilities of the US armed forces.

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When you quote numbers, I fact check them against the published figures.

I gave you the figures on defense spending. 4% of 15 trillion is $600 billion - which is in line with current defense spending - for 2011 the total military budget was $683 billion.

Which proves my original point that Romney plans on leaving defense spending at present levels - not increase the defense spending.

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I don&#039;t care to read third party statements - refute my facts directly with numbers of your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Green.Goddess and others.</p>
<p>Please stop referencing third parties and giving me hearsay.</p>
<p>If the defense spending is to be reduced to 2.6% trillion of GDP &#8211; that means Obama plans to heavily cut the military capabilities of the US armed forces.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>When you quote numbers, I fact check them against the published figures.</p>
<p>I gave you the figures on defense spending. 4% of 15 trillion is $600 billion &#8211; which is in line with current defense spending &#8211; for 2011 the total military budget was $683 billion.</p>
<p>Which proves my original point that Romney plans on leaving defense spending at present levels &#8211; not increase the defense spending.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care to read third party statements &#8211; refute my facts directly with numbers of your own.</p>
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		<title>By: green.goddess</title>
		<link>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-seeks-to-seize-the-debate-the-note/#comment-28677164</link>
		<dc:creator>green.goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marc:  No, Romney is saying he will grow defense spending to a floor of 4%.  Under current the House-passed budget resolution, core defense funding would decline as a share of the economy to 2.6% of GDP by 2022.  In contrast, Governor Romney would INCREASE core defense to 4.0 percent of GDP. 

Check out the CBPP.org site.  Romney’s budget proposals would entail spending significantly MORE for defense, increasing spending to $7.8 TRILLION over ten years.

Worse, CBPP calculates severe cuts to offset Romney&#039;s spending priorities.  Programs such as Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) cut by $1.5 trillion through 2022.  Also, cuts to compensation payments for disabled veterans.  Pensions for low-income veterans.  SSI benefits for poor aged and disabled individuals.  Repealing health reform by itself would leave uninsured 30 million people who would have gained coverage under health reform, according to the CBO.

A bleak landscape just so our nation can have increased military spending and continued tax cuts for the wealthiest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc:  No, Romney is saying he will grow defense spending to a floor of 4%.  Under current the House-passed budget resolution, core defense funding would decline as a share of the economy to 2.6% of GDP by 2022.  In contrast, Governor Romney would INCREASE core defense to 4.0 percent of GDP. </p>
<p>Check out the CBPP.org site.  Romney’s budget proposals would entail spending significantly MORE for defense, increasing spending to $7.8 TRILLION over ten years.</p>
<p>Worse, CBPP calculates severe cuts to offset Romney&#8217;s spending priorities.  Programs such as Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) cut by $1.5 trillion through 2022.  Also, cuts to compensation payments for disabled veterans.  Pensions for low-income veterans.  SSI benefits for poor aged and disabled individuals.  Repealing health reform by itself would leave uninsured 30 million people who would have gained coverage under health reform, according to the CBO.</p>
<p>A bleak landscape just so our nation can have increased military spending and continued tax cuts for the wealthiest.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn C. Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn C. Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by: Marc &#124; October 1, 2012, 1:36 pm 

Also from that report, regarding the projections, which the right often refers to as &quot;promises&quot;::
&quot;It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.&quot;
       
There&#039;s also a footnote: &quot;Forecasts of the unemployment rate without the recovery plan vary substantially. Some private forecasters anticipate unemployment rates as high as 11% in the absence of action.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by: Marc | October 1, 2012, 1:36 pm </p>
<p>Also from that report, regarding the projections, which the right often refers to as &#8220;promises&#8221;::<br />
&#8220;It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a footnote: &#8220;Forecasts of the unemployment rate without the recovery plan vary substantially. Some private forecasters anticipate unemployment rates as high as 11% in the absence of action.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RomneyWillLose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomneyWillLose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;The second fib is that Romney is cutting Medicare – in fact Obama has already cut $716 billion from Medicare – the changes will affect present generations of retirees and those close to retirement. Romney has pledged to restore that funding – by repealing and replacing ObamaCare.&quot;
POSTED BY: MARC &#124; OCTOBER 1, 2012, 11:19 AM 11:19 AM

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MARC, That is a &quot;fib&quot; you yourself have posted today. Congratulations! I see you have been listening the Fox News a lot. To be clear, Obama did not cut benefits from Medicare. What the president did was identify and cut the wasting, bloated payment to providers------payments for unnecessary services that did not improve the health of beneficiaries. Those savings were then &quot;plowed back&quot; to strengthen Medicare and close the &quot;doughnut hole&quot; drug prescription cost for beneficiaries. What Romney promises to do is give back that money to the pharmaceutical companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;The second fib is that Romney is cutting Medicare – in fact Obama has already cut $716 billion from Medicare – the changes will affect present generations of retirees and those close to retirement. Romney has pledged to restore that funding – by repealing and replacing ObamaCare.&#8221;<br />
POSTED BY: MARC | OCTOBER 1, 2012, 11:19 AM 11:19 AM</p>
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<p>MARC, That is a &#8220;fib&#8221; you yourself have posted today. Congratulations! I see you have been listening the Fox News a lot. To be clear, Obama did not cut benefits from Medicare. What the president did was identify and cut the wasting, bloated payment to providers&#8212;&#8212;payments for unnecessary services that did not improve the health of beneficiaries. Those savings were then &#8220;plowed back&#8221; to strengthen Medicare and close the &#8220;doughnut hole&#8221; drug prescription cost for beneficiaries. What Romney promises to do is give back that money to the pharmaceutical companies.</p>
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		<title>By: RomneyWillLose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomneyWillLose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREEN: Try something original instead of regurgitaing the DNC talking points. I read a lot and cover a lot of news sources both left and right and this is pure standard line stuff. Try to be original.

POSTED BY: PERPLEXED &#124; OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:48 AM 10:48 AM_______________PERPLEX, don&#039;t pick a fight with GREEN. Just wait till the debates. Then, we will hear from the horse&#039;s mouth. But, I woud not bet on Romney to give specifics about his fairy tale economic policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREEN: Try something original instead of regurgitaing the DNC talking points. I read a lot and cover a lot of news sources both left and right and this is pure standard line stuff. Try to be original.</p>
<p>POSTED BY: PERPLEXED | OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:48 AM 10:48 AM_______________PERPLEX, don&#8217;t pick a fight with GREEN. Just wait till the debates. Then, we will hear from the horse&#8217;s mouth. But, I woud not bet on Romney to give specifics about his fairy tale economic policies.</p>
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		<title>By: RomneyWillLose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomneyWillLose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;Just a historical remeinder about polls. About this time in October, Carter was slightly ahead of Reagan. In November, Reagan won by a LANDSLIDE.&quot; POSTED BY: PERPLEXED &#124; OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:06 AM 10:06 AM&quot;
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PERPLEXED, There is an on ABC Website that the Carter/ Reagan presidential election was influenced by the hostage situation in Iran. Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;Just a historical remeinder about polls. About this time in October, Carter was slightly ahead of Reagan. In November, Reagan won by a LANDSLIDE.&#8221; POSTED BY: PERPLEXED | OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:06 AM 10:06 AM&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>PERPLEXED, There is an on ABC Website that the Carter/ Reagan presidential election was influenced by the hostage situation in Iran. Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: tmferretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmferretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem Mitt has is not his demeanor, he has no message. If he ever had one it’s anthema to the right wing conservatives because it can&#039;t have revenue increases.

If President Obama is re-elected the deficit will go to 25 to 30 trillion dollars. If Mitt is elected the deficit will go to 25 to 30 trillion dollars.  You can&#039;t get around it if we want out of this recession. We can do it now or wait for a depression. 

 The difference is, President Obama knows we need to invest in this economy and not take money out of it to line the vaults of the big corporations who will invest that money in derivatives and banking stock.  Mitt doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem Mitt has is not his demeanor, he has no message. If he ever had one it’s anthema to the right wing conservatives because it can&#8217;t have revenue increases.</p>
<p>If President Obama is re-elected the deficit will go to 25 to 30 trillion dollars. If Mitt is elected the deficit will go to 25 to 30 trillion dollars.  You can&#8217;t get around it if we want out of this recession. We can do it now or wait for a depression. </p>
<p> The difference is, President Obama knows we need to invest in this economy and not take money out of it to line the vaults of the big corporations who will invest that money in derivatives and banking stock.  Mitt doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: RomneyWillLose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomneyWillLose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“registered voters by a 63 to 31 percent margin expect President Obama to win re-election.”
So after two or three weeks of publishing biased polls, the media returns to see how the biased news has influenced the public’s perception. This is like doing bomb-damage-assessment after the Air Force bombs a target.
...&quot;They do this with politicians too; they’ll run hit-piece after hit-piece on a politician, then do a poll to ask the public what they think of that politician, and invariably the public thinks the politician is a dirtbag.&quot;

POSTED BY: LARRY &#124; OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:03 AM 10:03 AM______________Hey, LARRY, do you think Fox News was doing the same thing, doing a &quot;hit-piece&quot; and lambasting President Obama? Interesting that Fox did its poll and showed Obama leading Romney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“registered voters by a 63 to 31 percent margin expect President Obama to win re-election.”<br />
So after two or three weeks of publishing biased polls, the media returns to see how the biased news has influenced the public’s perception. This is like doing bomb-damage-assessment after the Air Force bombs a target.<br />
&#8230;&#8221;They do this with politicians too; they’ll run hit-piece after hit-piece on a politician, then do a poll to ask the public what they think of that politician, and invariably the public thinks the politician is a dirtbag.&#8221;</p>
<p>POSTED BY: LARRY | OCTOBER 1, 2012, 10:03 AM 10:03 AM______________Hey, LARRY, do you think Fox News was doing the same thing, doing a &#8220;hit-piece&#8221; and lambasting President Obama? Interesting that Fox did its poll and showed Obama leading Romney.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PolitiFact has examined the claim numerous times, and each time rated it Mostly False.

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I provided you with the report that was put out by the office of the President elect - aka Mr. Obama - by his top economic advisers.

You have the name of the report and even the page on which they made those predictions and who authored and co-authored that report.

Politifact is disputing that Obama made a &quot;promise&quot; and instead calling it a &quot;projection&quot;.

This is just splitting hairs on semantics. 

They said this is what we expect to achieve - they didn&#039;t achieve it - their results weren&#039;t even in the same ball park - and now they are looking to skirt accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PolitiFact has examined the claim numerous times, and each time rated it Mostly False.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>I provided you with the report that was put out by the office of the President elect &#8211; aka Mr. Obama &#8211; by his top economic advisers.</p>
<p>You have the name of the report and even the page on which they made those predictions and who authored and co-authored that report.</p>
<p>Politifact is disputing that Obama made a &#8220;promise&#8221; and instead calling it a &#8220;projection&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is just splitting hairs on semantics. </p>
<p>They said this is what we expect to achieve &#8211; they didn&#8217;t achieve it &#8211; their results weren&#8217;t even in the same ball park &#8211; and now they are looking to skirt accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: RomneyWillLose</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomneyWillLose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, Mitt, let&#039;s just say this thing was not meant for you---the presidency, that is. You have have been campaigning forever to be president of the United States without success. November will be the grand finale of his futile adventure and, hopefully, you will get the message that you are not the type of leader the country needs in the white house. After November, you should spend quality time with your dancing horse and attend to your Cayman&#039;s bank accounts. Oh, by the way, Bush is scheduled to speak at a conference in the Caymans during the election day. What a coincidence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, Mitt, let&#8217;s just say this thing was not meant for you&#8212;the presidency, that is. You have have been campaigning forever to be president of the United States without success. November will be the grand finale of his futile adventure and, hopefully, you will get the message that you are not the type of leader the country needs in the white house. After November, you should spend quality time with your dancing horse and attend to your Cayman&#8217;s bank accounts. Oh, by the way, Bush is scheduled to speak at a conference in the Caymans during the election day. What a coincidence!</p>
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