‘God Only Knows’: Boehner Describes How to Avoid Fiscal Cliff

Ball is in your court, obama!!! Let’s see how much spending you will cut.

Ball is in your court, obama!!! Let’s see how much spending you will cut.

Posted by: Perplexed | December 21, 2012, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Actually the ball is sitting moldering over in the Republicans’ court with all of them staring at it and arguing among themselves unable to agree on anything. The Republicans are obstructionist even with each other.

he hopes to blame the GOP for the tax hikes

Posted by: The Inconvenient Truth | December 21, 2012, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

No need for the President to blame them – they’ve done that themselves. The Republicans are busy fighting among themselves and getting us nowhere.

I loves me some circular firing squad action , especially and particularly when the conservatives are the ones doing all the shooting . Bwahahahaahahaa …

The middle class will become extinct by the time Obama leaves office in 2016. If he leaves at all!!
The Obama tax hikes will kill millions of middle class jobs and Obamacare with all its new taxes will finish the job of wiping out the American middle class for good!
You were warned, but voted him anyway, even after his policies failed during Obama’s first term!

Posted by: The Inconvenient Truth | December 21, 2012, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

You’d be better off to examine the facts rather than your own fantasies.

It’s the Republicans who haven’t been able to get their act together. Boehner tried to introduce a taxing approach and his own party fell into bickering and disagreement – so much so that Boehner had to give up his efforts.

You sound pretty silly trying to blame that on President Obama.

Its real SIMPLE Dan, Boehner was not able to reach a balanced compromise deal with Obama because Obama never really wanted any such deal! Obama will get all that he wanted after we go over the fiscal cliff, so why would he really want to make a deal with Boehner anyway???? As a added bonus, Obama can easily blame the GOP for all the tax hikes! So ready your wallet, your about to get hammered by the Obama tax hikes!!! Middle class voters will soon realize they voted for the wrong guy, again!

Conservatives are idealists , largely . Most of them believe in an afterlife that is much preferable to reality . Thus they are not realists in any sense of the word ; and as a consequence they’re not pragmatic nor realistic and their unrealistic uncompromising Taliban mirroring narrow minded often rabidly zealous evangelical moralities dovetail right into the ideologies of their elected hard liner uncompromising political representatives , as expected . America needs less Puritanical religious idealist leaders ( who are always praying to some unseen deity for assistance ) and more sensible realists who get busy and legislate for the American people and don’t waste valuable time waiting on the flying spaghetti monster to make everything better .

Posted by: The Inconvenient Truth | December 21, 2012, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Sadly, you missed the truth. The Republicans couldn’t even agree amongst themselves! They are obstructionist with each other. They are sinking like a rock and we’re suffering the consequences.

Then move over Boehner and let someone who is willing to HELP do the job!

“Then move over Boehner and let someone who is willing to HELP do the job!” – Susanna

Paul Ryan would be an excellent Speaker of the House.

NO Dan, the WHOLE country is going to suffer the consequences of 4 more years of Obama’s failed policies and un-american ideologies!

Posted by: The Inconvenient Truth | December 21, 2012, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

You should pay more attention to the facts rather than your fevered imaginations.

Boehner tried to put forward his own plan to his Republican House but the Republicans are so divided Boehner couldn’t even get support for his own plan from his own party. The Republicans are a mess.

The Republicans are even obstructionist with each other, and we’ve been left to play the price.

This might sound crazy but, we all need to go ahead and open our wallets and spend a little more in taxes. No reason to keep accepting the “handouts” of Bush-era tax cuts that helped destroy our economy. Remember, you guys hate handouts!

And it’s Off The Cliff we go! Ho! Ho! Ho! Come on people, compromise involves TWO sides. Not just one. Not going to happen here because no one really wants it to. So … it’s Off The Cliff we go! Ho! Ho! Ho! Bend over Greece, uh…, I mean …., America!

@Dan .. it’s not the Republicans, it’s the president. The main reason Boehner abandoned plan-B is that Obama said he would veto it anyhow.

Posted by: pgdion | December 21, 2012, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

No, it isn’t. Boehner couldn’t get enough votes in his own party to support Plan-B. It was a terrile embarrassment for him, and for the Republican House The Republicans are in shambles, bickering amongst themselves. They’re a mess

“No, it isn’t. Boehner couldn’t get enough votes in his own party to support Plan-B.” – Dan

What’s worse is that there were no Democrats who were willing to support Plan “B” so that we wouldn’t go over the cliff.
Where was Nancy “botox” Pelosi on this?
Where was the Obama Leadership?

The Federal Government is a mess.

Ask yourself this question – “Who keeps track of your household expenses on regular basis?” If your answer is “No one” – then you need to be very panic, because you’ll be hurt a lot financially by this “fiscal cliff” fail-through event. My case? I’m my household’s financial planner/advisor. A couple of years prior to my retirement, my better-half asked me about our “after retirement living situation” – so six years ago, I started document all of our household expenses on monthly basis. So three years ago, I broke the good news to her that First of all, since we lived a frugal life, with our three incomes – my pension, her and my early SS benefits, not only we can live very comfortably, we can even pass along our close to 1 Mill assets to our off-spring. She’s elated. Oh, BTW, I never own any gun let alone bullets. “Fiscal cliff” or no “fiscal cliff” doesn’t bother us a bit.

We need to have each federal agency assemble a budget from the ground up and justify the expenditures. The hope here is that we will see what each agency really need and not what Congress keeps throwing at them. For example, we’ve all seen stories of Congress funding weapon systems or other military equipment that Defense never asked for or even wants. If each department or agency had to justify its budget the same as it would in the private sector, we would probably find a tremendous amount of savings. This nonsense of just increasing the budget by a certain percentage each year regardless of the need is just plain ridiculous.

Please, please just shut down the federal government!

the love of money is the root of all that’s evil

Don’t be sacrilegious Boehner using the Lords name in vein. You want to take away Social Security and Medicare. How do you think God would like that? Enough GOP antics. Get to work or GET OUT!

You Know Who You Are …, alas the only voice of reason on this whole subject! I like that idea! Just go home for the holidays and never come back!

Silly Liberals House has already passed a plan, Boehner just trying to put something the libs in the senate might pass. They will be the ones to push us over .

Caw 2:34pm – The GOP would have to vote present and allow the dems to pass the bill. If any of them vote for the bill and the plan fails, Obama will simply say it was a bipartisan bill and so everyone has to take the blame.

Boehner just trying to put something the libs in the senate might pass. They will be the ones to push us over .

Posted by: flcracker | December 21, 2012, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

And his party voted him down. No compromise, no co-operation. The Republican party is obstructionist even to each other. Too bad there isn’t a mid-term election tomorrow. They’d be gone from power.

For anyone who knows ‘anything about contests (elections) and what happens when you win versus lose, you will know ‘where the ball is right now’. In Boehner’s and the GOP’s court – and the ‘cancer’ of the tea party right wing…won’t let him out of the ‘box’ they put in him…and now he cannot operate in that ‘court’. And by the way John: it isn’t “God Only Knows”…it is about the “GOP only knows”…because that is who will deservedly get the blame…if we go over the cliff. Do you notice how the GOP always distracts to “God”…when they get themselves in trouble?

Boehner resembles a basset hound. They should be required to stay in DC until there is some solution. They were too anxious to get out of town fast.

“God only knows”????????? If a kid in public school said that he would be expelled.

Dan, what have the Dems passed? BO can’t even pass a budget!

Let them expire—-ALL OF THEM! Time to remind the “common” man what it felt like to pay taxes under their best friend and hero Clinton. Let them feel first hand what that evil-incarnate Bush really did for their pocketbook. Most of you should be jumping up and down with glee that things are going back to the ‘good old days’! Let them ALL expire! Time for the free ride to end. Bring back the marriage penalty tax! Cut all child credits for the low & middle class (upper middle don’t get it) back to less than half of what it is now! Stop all deductions for education and roll back the mortgage deduction as well. Stop all tax breaks for dependent child care and adoption. Bring that silly 10% bracket back up to 15 and increase the percentage that everyone pays by at least 3%. Drastically increase the capital gains and taxes on dividends—especially for those in the middle and lower tax brackets! Stop sales tax deductions for states without income tax, and get rid of that ridiculous earned income tax credit. I could go on and on and on and on………….yes, let them ALL expire! Time for everyone to pay their “fair share”….just like in the good old days!

Now Obama will get the big tax hikes and big military cuts he’s been dreaming of!
After all, sequestration was a ‘White House Idea’ thats been in the works for well over a year!
Obama lied to the American people, as he always does, he never wanted a balanced compromise deal from the start!
When you get your big tax bill and your boss lays you off next year, just remember you voted for both when you voted for Obama again!

So it goes

Over the cliff you go leftists. 0bama your king with no clothes is taking you for a ride. As par for the hawaii golf course he will TRY to blame Bush, or the Middle East spring for your lack of welfare and unemployment, but what 0dumbo doesn’t realize is that ultimately this is his decision. Vacation seems like a perfect answer for the narccistic joker some call the president.

WOW— To people like Dan and DaveM and especially you CND FOX and all you other liberals.. Lets make this clear. The PRESIDENT said he was willing to consider a balanced approach.. Yet his first offer was to RAISE taxes on everyone making over 250K (which includes mom and pop businesses, farms, married WORKING professionals, and a miriad of others who are NOT FILTHY RICH). On top of that, he wanted congress to waive its authority to set the debt limit and give the presidnt power to raise the limit whenever he chose, on top of that, there were NO SPENDING cuts to an already bloated and destructive level of federal spending PLUS he wanted an additional 50 billion per year in additional “STIMULUS SPENDING”. This was the presidents idea of “balanced”. In other words “give me what ever i want and you get NOTHING”. the Speaker tried several “plans” the fist was to raise taxes by 800 billion, close loop holes and reduce the level of spendng by only 400 billion over the next 10 years.. OBAMA SAID NO. Then the speaker offered to raise tax rates on everyone who makes over one million and asked for NO spending cuts (the was origianlly the Pelosi plan) and the president said he would veto THAT as well.
The speaker sent it to the house for a vote so he could at least say there was an effort by the house to pass SOMETHING.. but it failed and frankly IT SHOULD FAIL. Its garbage..it does not address the real problem and even if it had passed, the president would have vetoed it anyway because HE WANTS US TO FAIL.. then he can blame the repubs, EVERYONE’s taxes goes UP, the debt continues to spiral out of control, he gets MORE SPENDING so he can buy votes from people whose lives are tethered to government subsistance and he can spend the next 2 years tellling all its the fault of the republicans as he hands out our food stamps.
Liberals are such idiots, you have become SLAVES and don’t even recognize who holds the keys to your shackles.
If Obama gets everything he asks for in tax increases “for the rich” it will pay for 11 DAYS of current government spending.. ELEVEN DAYS.. and it will cost MORE JOBS that are responsible for MORE tax revenue than it will generate. Look around you.. you wanted healthcare.. you got it . And now, over 150 companies have already said that they will cut hours on employees to get below the 30 hour limit. Others will pay for the healthcare benefits that are required, and simply FIRE enough people to cover it. Insurance companies are already downsizing and some are selling off because they can’t meet the new 85/15 requirement and survive. Doctors are moving to pivate practice or retiring because they can’t operate at 10% below medicaid rates. And don’t expect any new medical procedures, drugs or devices, because the new tax rate for their R/D is too prohibitive.

LIBERALS please.. if you have kids or grand kids, at least have the courage to tell them the truth. Tell them that they will have NOTHING because YOU demanded that you be given what you were “entitled” to. And you didn’t give a DAMN about what it cost, how much debt you piled on or who would ultimately have to pay for it.. Admit that you did not care enough about them to consider THEIR future… Admit that you don’t care how much debt you run up for them as long a you “get yours”. Tell them that when we were given a choice between SPENDING MORE and taxing the JOB creators to pay for it or learning to be SMARTER with THEIR money and spend less, you chose to SPEND MORE and blame the problems of the very people you were taking the money FROM. Tell them this as once the greatest country on earth with more opportunty than any other and that you are sory, but you just didn’t feel like saving any of it for them.

Arkie Vet,

The Elephants shoulder this blame too, don’t put it all on the Donkeys.

Your last few presidents did piss poor as well, spending TRILLIONS in wars we had no business fighting, Giving subsidies to oil companies that are STILL making record profits, and instead of making the tax code fair to 100% of the citizenship, they want to save corporations and multi-millionares an untold fortune in tax breaks.

FACT- TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS DOESN’T WORK.

II am not saying that the Donkeys don’t have blame, they have plenty coming their way with teaching citizens that is okay to milk entitlement for generations, but to say that your party is guilt free makes you look extremely narrow minded and unintelligent. Get out from behind that Elephant and use some common sense.

spitfire18213 | December 21, 2012, 4:26 pm —- I blame both parties and use my vote to tell thenm what I think. Obama, by his own projections, will add more to the deficit than ALL Presidents before him…COMBINED. Boehner offered to extend tax cuts and talk later, Dems refused and Harry Reid threw it in Boehners face. I am an Ind/Libertarian and watching one side compromise while the other really does nothing is sickening. Let Obama go golfing and Reid go gambling while we go over the cliff. I hope everyone is ready. We need a 3rd party.

If trickle down doesn’t work spit, then why is 0dumbo doing it with the Auto workers, and Solyndra?

COMMONSENSEPARTY-

Thanks for thinking for yourself. I agree as well. I voted LIB for president this year. I dont vote by party lines, I vote for the best candidate. The President AND Gov. Romney were much,much too vague on what their platform actually was, although the President was a shade more forthcoming than the Elephant ticket.

Things just need to ACTUALLY change. Not just people talking about it. Doubt it will happen, but time will tell.

It’s not too hard to figure out how to solved this mess. Start remembering you work for the American People, Boehner, and not the rich guys pulling your strings. It’s so obvious that he has been bought an paid for by the 1%. It sickening, really.

If I told my boss only God knows how this is going to get resolved…. he’d find someone else that would get the job done and send me packing! Sad how some politicians are getting away with not doing their jobs and making lots of money at the People’s expense. It’s not my fault I never have or would vote for Boehner.

I guess the idea here is, Boehner quits talking and blames it on Obama.Both sides need to talk, by removing one side, YOU BECOME THE PROBLEM. Even if you don’t believe you can make progress, you show up anyway.

I know how you can avoid the fiscal cliff, J.B.: RETIRE!!!

Commonense- So you agree, Boehner is an idiot?

The way to avoid the cliff would have been for the Orange Boner and his minions to extend the tax cuts for the middle class and let the rest expire, instead of trying to pull another fast one to benefit the KOCH BROTHERS! I would personally throw the orange man over the nearest cliff… maybe he would come to his senses by January!

“Let them expire—-ALL OF THEM! Time to remind the “common” man what it felt like to pay taxes under their best friend and hero Clinton. Let them feel first hand what that evil-incarnate Bush really did for their pocketbook. Most of you should be jumping up and down with glee that things are going back to the ‘good old days’! Let them ALL expire! Time for the free ride to end. Bring back the marriage penalty tax! Cut all child credits for the low & middle class (upper middle don’t get it) back to less than half of what it is now! Stop all deductions for education and roll back the mortgage deduction as well. Stop all tax breaks for dependent child care and adoption. Bring that silly 10% bracket back up to 15 and increase the percentage that everyone pays by at least 3%. Drastically increase the capital gains and taxes on dividends—especially for those in the middle and lower tax brackets! Stop sales tax deductions for states without income tax, and get rid of that ridiculous earned income tax credit. I could go on and on and on and on………….yes, let them ALL expire! Time for everyone to pay their “fair share”….just like in the good old days!”

POSTED BY: RESEARCHANDLEARN | DECEMBER 21, 2012, 3:38 PM 3:38 PM_________________We should also cut spending… especially the military budget, while protecting Social Security and Medicare

Funny how Obama and the other leftist zealots derided the “Bush” tax cuts; NOW they’re what’s going to save the “middle class”. Well, which is it, Barack?

Posted by: electpatriots | December 21, 2012, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

The Bush tax cuts came at a time when the country needed the tax dollars – not debt piled on a credit card. The desire to extend them comes at a time when the economy is recovering and stable, but when reinstating those taxes could have a very negative effect on the country’s economy.

A large lump of coal in your Christmas stocking, Boehner. You are a disgrace and should give up all the perks the taxpayers give you, including a huge salary, free medical care, and a lifetime pension. Along with Congress, you do nothing but whine and complain.

Commonsense- You hit it on the head,Boehner is NOT doing anything. He packed his bags and went home because he didn’t get what he wanted. Now he is attempting to say the problem is Obama. BUT, he’s NOT THERE to talk. I wasn’t talking about Harry Reid, Nanacy Pelosi, that’s just fluff to make it look like you have a point. How can Boehner be working on this problem when he is going home? Fire the moron, it’s not up to Boehner to declare “I will not negotiate.”

My Republican Congressman’s office today told me that the hard-core psychos in their own party are the ones holding up a deal. They agreed with me that the Republican party is who will be paying the price for failure going forward.

Boehner is a weak leader tying to herd cats.

Boehner must be refering to Obama.