Mitt Romney Got… 47 Percent

Was it Bush’s fault or Obama’s success, Mitt lost?

An idiot should always sweep for video surveillance prior to speaking.

Doesn’t change the fact that 47% still don’t pay taxes.

He might have lost, but he was 100% right about the 47%.

Conservatives prayed in 2008 and 2012 for the “right” man to be elected President. Obviously their prayers were answered … right??? ;-)

Which relates to the GIMMIE GIMMIES , NOW being 53% !!! We are in deep doodoo, LEAD BY THE MENTALLY DEFORMED MEDIA…YA THINK WE GOTS A PRINTING PRESS WHICH PAYS FOR EVERYTHING DO YA, and just because an idiot like you has some semblance of job security while 23 million walk the streets ?????? How STOOOOOOOPID are you dillweeds anyway?

Ha,Ha…..that’s funny………Karma at its best….I’ll bet that number will be Karma for him for the rest of his life.That’s what he gets for putting down 47% of the people.So much for his Christian way.He talked the talk and it bit him in the ass…………………………..

and he walked the walk……….of shame

What TF, he’s still in the news that guy?

Happy New Year! I hope everyone is enjoying their SMALLER PAYCHECK!

“OMG! Are we still going on with this? Does he and every other Republican understand what 47% of 100% is?
100-53=47=LOSER (then) LOSER (now)!”

Honey, they really don’t get it. The election was how many months ago? The Romney Camp and Republicans are still shaking their heads and wondering to this day why exactly he lost! How about the better AND smarter man won!!!! Now, …let’s move forward!!!

I should have know better to try and be open to that maybe you or this news organization could have been open minded but see that’s impossible, Lets see what Obama’s legacy is. We should have elected a Harry Reid or maybe Nancy for President and you ALL WOULD BE FOAMING AT THE MOUTHS , Good LUCK AND happy new YEAR, Hope YOU ALL ENJOY YOUR NEW TAXES AND THE ONES TO COME!! GREAT WIN !!!

I should have know better to try and be open to that maybe you or this news organization could have been open minded but see that’s impossible,

Posted by: David Marsland | January 4, 2013, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

No, you should be smart enough to know that phony allegations will be challenged. You implied 47% do not work and expect the government to take care of them. You’re plain wrong.

Just because people are being paid such crappy wages they don’t earn enough to pay income tax does not mean they are living off the government. Your ignorance is astounding.

The majority of those pay payroll taxes, state taxes, local taxes, sales taxes, tobacco taxes, alcohol taxes.

Hope YOU ALL ENJOY YOUR NEW TAXES AND THE ONES TO COME!! GREAT WIN !!!

Posted by: David Marsland | January 4, 2013, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

The Republicans fought against the payroll tax cuts for the past several years, but the Democrats succeeded in getting those tax cuts in place. This negotiation the Republicans got their wish. The payroll taxes go up. You can thank the Republicans for that.

Now that is justice!

It’s sad that people don’t understand Romney’s point. Americans ARE getting lazier, more entitled, self-centered. It’s impossible to mature into a hard-working, responsible American citizen, when you’re simply being given what you need, instead of sweating for it! By the way… I’m a Libertarian. The Dems just seem to want to spend money on people who don’t understand that back in the day… if you didn’t work, you didn’t eat! What happened to the “salt of the earth” self-sufficiency that created America? Are we that jealous/envious of other’s successes that we demonize the rich and beg our government to “stick it to ‘em?” It’s not right to put America’s irresponsible behavior on the shoulders of our more affluent citizens! We should all be in this together! I’m willing to be taxed more in order to get America back on track (and I’m pretty poor)… as long as we completely overhaul the system, so the government works for us and not the politicians! Our current system is a joke! The corruption has to stop and common sense needs to prevail!

Dan, it was not a lie. Look at this forum right now. There are (at least) 47% who are still “shouting out rude names.” 47% of the populcace who are happy to be part of the 47%. I am amazed and appalled. And I don’t mean happy to have voted for Obama, I mean happy that they backed a system of government designed to allow them to not “pay their fair share.” Get it from someone else, that’s always the answer. …..

Since many Republicans are part of the original 47% comment (the elderly, military personnel, and ignorant poor red-state hicks), then it is fitting that he also garnered about that many votes – ironic.

Oh, ABC, you’re as ironic as a old bawd at a truckstop. A good laugh was had by all.

Mitt Romney said there was 47% of the public whose votes he could not get. There turned out to be more than 47%. But that doesn’t make them correct, that just makes them typical of a decadent, foolish people in dangerous times.

Romney, with all of his flaws was still a better choice than the current spender-n-chief. 2012 will be remembered as the year that the takers outnumbered the producers in this once great country.

Karmic humor.

BHO’s admirer’s will go to the home for the criminally insane, always evading the world in which they lived and stole. Romney didn’t lie. You blow.

Ok, ABC. You got your candidate elected and the U.S. taxpayer is just starting to reap the “benefits”. My only satisfaction is that it is going to also include the voters who bought into Obama’s smooth speeches Don’t think so? Keep an eye on your paychecks, along with income and other taxes. That’s not including the fraud in welfare and food stamps.

Romney didn’t lie. Obama lies regularly. Obama voters are delusional and fail to notice.

DAN: “You brainwashed right wingers really need to learn how to research the TRUTH, instead of repeating the right wing lies.” – - – Researching the truth is totally irrelevant to ALL ideologues be they reactionary far right conservatives, or radical far left liberals, or religious ideologues, or economic ideologues, or environmental ideologues, or any other kind of ideologue because ALL ideologues are totally incpable of idependent rational thought. Consequently, all ideoogues will simply use irrational thinking to rationalize away any and all “TRUTH” (aka reasonable rational beliefs and reliable objective evidence) that conflicts with their value and belief system. They will always engage in any and all mentall gymnastics necessary to force reality to conform with the perceptions of their narrow world view. All ideologues prefer to see and hear only what they already believe.

Reply to Posted by: Dan | January 4, 2013, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

By the way… I’m a common sense fiscal conservative, not a “right-winger.” I am also extremely socially liberal. People are taking Mitt’s comment too personally – sure, a lot of that 47% pay taxes, but they still don’t understand that life isn’t fair and that none of us are entitled!

PEIKOVIIAN: “BHO’s admirer’s will go to the home for the criminally insane, always evading the world in which they lived and stole. Romney didn’t lie. You blow.” – – – ROFLMAO Either you are totally clueless to the meaning of the word lie, or totally oblivious to objective reality.

While the former choice is possible I put all of my money on the second optiion.

Hitting ideological koolaide bongs so hard so often tends to cause the kinds of delusions you routinely have. And it is routinely possible to identify and illustrate and refute your delusions with objctive facts.

Obama leads your Human Centipede. Enjoy dinner this evening.

Great irony. You gotta love the fact that romney went back to work for Marriott. You would think that at this point in his life and with his money that he would want to make a contribution to humanity. I can just see him now making decisions like, should we order the 43 inch or the 46 inch flat screen tvs for the new hotel? should we order the 2 ounce or the 3 ounce shampoo bottles on our next order? America sure made the right choice in the election…

The right wingers who are convinced nobody has a right to food, shelter, and medical care do not have a second thought about invading a 3rd country, destroying its economy, and taking whatever just because it suits their view of the world. Curious.

We overspend $4 Billion a day and you fools worry about the 47% … worse – you voted for BO
.
The nation will fiscally perish by 2024 because of your shortsightedness … belly up and dummy down …

… it’s now the American way

No matter whethr or not Obama (finally) gets us truly back on track or not, it is scary that the GOP put up someone like Romney and that many people actually voted for him. He would have let the 47% rot.

Posted by: DJNAM | January 4, 2013, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Try to read it slowly. Bush was handed a balanced budget (or better) by Clinton. By the time Bush was through that balanced budget was a yearly deficit of over a trillion dollars.

Posted by: spike | January 4, 2013, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Reverend Wright was correct.

Tragic imbeciles. Not one moment of Economics 101 among them.

Posted by: spike | January 4, 2013, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Wrong.

The Republicans held the majority in Congress for basically 12 straight years – from 1994 through 2006 and the presidency for the last 6 of those years and more.

Plenty of time to build a robust, ‘trickle-down’ Republican economy? Right? Wrong!

It was during that time the sub-prime loans grew exponentially and the housing bubble swelled to bursting – the two things that sunk the economy.

In fact, the sub-prime industry and the housing bubble were already beginning to fall apart a year before the Democrats took Congress.

And still the Republicans try to pretend they’re don’t hold responsibility. Pitiful.

PEIKOVIIAN: “Tragic imbeciles. Not one moment of Economics 101 among them.” – - – LOL I will gladly stack up my understanding of macroeconomics and microeconomicss against your understanding of Econ 101 any day. Bring it on! Where do you want to start? The Ten Fundamental Principles of Economics? Production Possibility curves? Opportunity Cost? Elasticity? Price Controls? Fixed Costs? Variable Costs? Externalities?

B-K KnightRider | January 4, 2013, 4:33 pm —- How about you don’t pay off a credit card with another credit card? We’re impressed with what you can find in a single search on Google. Keynes had a theory too, it doesn’t work.

this is a stupid article because it does not state what percentage ALL the other candidates got combined I bet the “other” party did not get as high of a percentage of the vote…

ha ha ha. Mitt the twit, the loser gets 47% How ironic, how appropriate.

POSTED BY: BILLY BOB
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The article never mentioned who took the poll Billy Bob. It was probably a very biased pollster.

Obama actually won by less than 3 million votes and by 0.9% over Romney, which is not even 1 percent. If Romney actually got 47%, that means Obama TOO got 47%

this is a stupid article because it does not state what percentage ALL the other candidates got combined I bet the “other” party did not get as high of a percentage of the vote…

POSTED BY: GRANDPA
_______________________
Your bet is correct. Obama won by less than 1 percent which means, by percentages he won the very same percent as Romney.

We get it caveman, bad=GOP, good=Democrats, uhg!

Posted by: Commonsenseparty | January 4, 2013, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

This is the kind of thing people post when they have nothing factual or logical to contribute. When they’re stumped by the points being made and can’t respond with anything based on facts. Light weight.

Clinton only had 42% of the vote in 1992!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | January 4, 2013, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

That’s because Perot took away 19% of the vote.

You all are busy talking about an election that is over, when an idiot on CNN is insulting the 2nd amendment of your constitution. You better wake up before USA lost all its integrity and morality in society

SPIKE: “Obama actually won by less than 3 million votes and by 0.9% over Romney, which is not even 1 percent. If Romney actually got 47%, that means Obama TOO got 47%.” – - – LOL And speaing of the way ideologues and many conservatives in particular rely upon weak thinking and bogus “facts” to prop up their deslusions. No, it does not mean anything of the kind. President Obama actually got 51.2% of the vote. That therefore means all the other candidates got only about 1.6% of the votes. The President’s 51.2% plus Romney’s 47.2% leaves only 1.6% for the other candidates.

Dan | January 4, 2013, 4:46 pm —- Dan, you talk about facts yet you blame the GOP for the 2% tax hike eventhougha huge majority of Democrats voted for it over the GOP in the House. So please spare us your lectures on facts. You minions continue talking of a Clinton surplus that never happened. Clinton added to the national debt every single year in office. While he had a good record, you all keep lying about it.

Obama won people, move on. I would say “forward”, but I am not expecting much as I didn’t the last 4 years.

Dan | January 4, 2013, 4:46 pm —- Dan, you talk about facts yet you blame the GOP for the 2% tax hike eventhougha huge majority of Democrats voted for it

Posted by: Commonsenseparty | January 4, 2013, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

The Republicans fought against the payroll tax cuts for the past several years, but the Democrats won out each time and a payroll tax cut was put in place. This time the Republicans won out. They got what they wanted in the this agreement regarding the payroll tax cut being ended. Hence every working person’s taxes will go up. Too difficult for you to understand?

As one of those who currently pays no federal income tax (being a widowed mom of 2 and a returning full-time university student) but who certainly is taking and always HAS taken responsibility for her own life (as I am NOW by earning my 2nd degree so I can better support myself and my family going forward and as I HAVE done in my 3 decades of working and paying my share of taxes, including as the owner of 2 small businesses, to date), I resented the HELL out of Romney’s ignorant and elitist remarks.

He essentially characterized almost half of the American people (including many of our elders and/or veterans) as lazy, irresponsible, selfish, entitled bums. And yeah, he meant EXACTLY what he said to his millionaire donors in what he thought was private.

Gee, who KNEW that insulting almost half the American population wasn’t a good strategy for winning a presidential election? Not that I would have voted for him anyway, being a progressive independent who did not want to see a return to the failed economic, domestic, tax, trade, and foreign policies of the Neo-Cons, but I’ll bet he lost quite a few potential voters with those comments. Plenty of Republicans out there who pay no federal income taxes either and/or receive welfare or entitlements.

COMMONSENSEPARTY: “B-K KnightRider | January 4, 2013, 4:44 pm —- Wright is an idiot and a racist. Enjoy his teachings minion.” – - – ROFL I didn’t learn a single thing from Rev Wright. I ALREADY understood the TRUTH behind the CONTEXT of his comments by learning about real Amerian history from a variety of books and college level courses decades before I ever even heard of Rev. Wright.

Why are we still talking about Romney? Old news. Ironic percentage or not, Move on.

He might have lost, but he was 100% right about the 47%.

POSTED BY: AMY | JANUARY 4, 2013, 1:31 PM 1:31 PM_________________That is why he lost because he was wrong about that 47% nonsense

PEIKOVIIAN: “Tragic imbeciles. Not one moment of Economics 101 among them.” – – – LOL I will gladly stack up my understanding of macroeconomics and microeconomicss against your understanding of Econ 101 any day. Bring it on! Where do you want to start? The Ten Fundamental Principles of Economics? Production Possibility curves? Opportunity Cost? Elasticity? Price Controls? Fixed Costs? Variable Costs? Externalities?

POSTED BY: B-K KNIGHTRIDER | JANUARY 4, 2013, 4:33 PM 4:33 PM_____________Oh, please, stop!

What part of Classical Economics did Jon Kest not teach you?

I’m just glad there are fellow dopers like bknight to keep the free stuff going for us. Why should we work when we can get stuff for free. Thats why we need to stick together to get those free cell phones. Who about tomorrow our children or grandchildren . Its NOT bknights and our problem!

DAN keeps repeating: “This is a top of the line administration.” DAN, your low intelligence is mind-boggling. It’s tragic that people like you are voters.

DEM_WITHOUT_A_CLUE: “I’m just glad there are fellow dopers like bknight to keep the free stuff going for us. Why should we work when we can get stuff for free. Thats why we need to stick together to get those free cell phones. Who about tomorrow our children or grandchildren . Its NOT bknights and our problem!” – - – Yep, the way you resort to stereotyping for ad hominem attacks when unable to provide a cogent counter argument I have no trouble believing you are totally without a clue. And please take your free speech and all other rights for granted that you still have partly because I am one of those lazy freeloaders who spent 27 in the military (three years Army Reserve and 27 years in the Navy) protecting the rights you still have. I don’t get ANY free stuff (except four classes I didn’t have to pay for when I was on a part time honors scholarship at one time) and everything I have I paid for by earning my pay with a career in the military and other jobs since then.

Today, families that have a head of household that is under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent.

This is a top of the line administration.

The economy is measured by the goods it produces, not the quantity of Obamabucks in circulation. Double the quantity of Obamabucks chasing the goods, and you double the retail price of those goods. It has happened in Europe and in South America, and it will happen here. You have no magic words that will stop it. A sigh, a rolling of the eyes, a sip from a vanilla soy latte doesn’t help.

To see skinny emo boys weep they were too frail to steal even more, it breaks one’s heart.

It has happened in Europe —uhhhh , no. Austerity happened in europe. You dont knwo what austerity means, do you? Look it up. Europe screwed up because they cut too much, too fast, and their economies SHURNK more than they cut, so while they cut, unemployment only went UP, and debt went UP!!! TOO MUCH austerity too quickly while in recession is just stimply stupid. That is exactly what Herbert Hoover did and he took a 9% unemployment recession and turned it into a 25% unemployment depression. Greece and the US started out in the SAME PLACE 4 years ago, and now WE have lowering unemnployment and an economy growing, and Greece is now in full blown Depression with 25% unemloyment. NOT because of debt, because of OVERREACTING and cutting too much too quickly. THANK GOD Obama got in. He’s the reason we have an economy bouncing back, NOT an economy with 25% unemployment that keeps going up.

In the last year alone, 1.8 million jobs added under Obama.

He got 47%. Yep. The party formerly known as democrats have made it clear that it “pays” to vote for them. They buy people and their votes. Even H himself discussed making the dependent class an important voting bloc and expanding it through wealth redistribution to purchase more souls into the faith of leftist policies. Not only was this the basis of Lenin and Marx, but also Cloward & Piven. H is a master of creating dependency and fanning the flames of class warfare as political leverage and I have to admit it works. The party formerly known as democrats have proven that people can still be bought and owned, but now by using others money to do it.

Wow. 47% of America still believes in a work ethic and isn’t addicted to the federal teet? Maybe there is hope for America yet!

The party formerly known as democrats have made it clear that it “pays” to vote for them. They buy people and their votes.

Posted by: TexBork_2013 | January 4, 2013, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

On the very day debate began on a bill to repeal subsidies to Big Oil, an astonishing $131,500 in campaign contributions passed from the hands of oil donors in Midland, Texas to Mitch McConnell’s election war chest. Three days later the bill failed by filibuster.

In case you missed it, Mitch McConnell is a Republican. We know exactly where votes are bought.

When the country is starving in an economic depression, this shill for the olgiarchy wants to keep the status quo going and fush 50% of the government tax revenue down the toilet on the military… which soaves none of it, and produces nothing of value at all. All the military does is blow it on expensive airplanes and tanks that in 5 years time, are parked out in the desert to rot away.

$680 BILLION A YEAR DUMPED ON THE MILITARY
$80 BILLION A YEAR TO FEED MILLIONS OF POOR PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM FROM DYING IN THE STREETS.

The amounts are hardly comparable. The amount of money blown on the military is 10 times what is spent for food stamps, and thats in the absolute worst of economic times (right now).

You want to slash the budget, slash the military to the bone. Don’t worry, you’ve been dumping outrageous sums on them for the past 50 years, they should have some savings to coast on for the next 20 years. What, they don’t? Where did it all go? How can you blow 700 billion a year. What did you buy with it? Did you keep the receipt!!!?

Mitt Romney had the nerve to talk about people not paying taxes when his whole personna is not to pay taxes through every loop hole imaginable.

Posted by: Parik | January 4, 2013, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

And the right wingers baa like sheep.

Plus it was the Republicans who introduced the last major changes to the tax rates – and then they try to pretend its the Democrats fault people pay too low tax rates. Hypocritical liars.

Cut the CRAP about bigotry! Are you kidding me? You idiots actually believe that the incumbent has any clue on how to jump start the economy! I pray that better times are ahead, but with a small majority that still believes the Media’s President, it won’t happen now for many years to come! YOU are the folks that have VOTED against your own interest, unless it is complete dependence upon government! WE can’t afford another $4T in defecit spending, but yet we had to approve because of this elections results! This whole piece is another example of the Main Stream Media trying to demonize the Guy that had the BETTER RESUME! So sad!

Mitt Romney had the nerve to talk about people not paying taxes when his whole personna is not to pay taxes through every loop hole imaginable.

Posted by: Parik | January 4, 2013, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Exactly.

—IMPORTANT—

How can people vote on taxes when they pay none, and never had; living in all facets off the government and creating an new generation of high violance ( including robbing, stealing and killing).
Now, these individuals also get free education inwhich leaves many out if some issues transpire to cause them to drop out; in my case my mother was in a house explosion with no help from the government and I still had to pay taxes.–PLEASE NOTE— The government is training and educating the government dependent only inwhich now controls companies today; so everyone else is left out to the wolfs. Poverty controlling and running origanizations.

Dan-well the ones that never paid taxes vote on taxes; also work getting paid upto $27,000.00 a year with a free housing and everything else. The government is in this situation only due to poverty expeditures; but makes everyone think something else. Civil war will hit our streets so be prepared; I predicted the mortgage crash, since I visited the White House in 2000; and predicted a global crash and also what is transpiring now. My father was Mjor of Florrissant in 1959 and created a city today; he is probably turning over in his grave today, on what is happenings but already started preparing me for today; since he died at the age of 52.

ABC – you continue to embarass yourself masquerading as a true news outlet. True journalists don’t wear their political preferences on their sleeves. You are bringing up a year old comment (which was absolutely a true statement on Romney’s part – so kudos to you for reporting it over and over and over again). Why would people who pay no income tax vote for the candidate who won’t be handing out gifts to them? It makes perfect sense.

However, why no continued stories on Obama’s negligence in Benghazi or Obama’s comments on “clinging to guns and bibles” or Obama raising taxes on 77% of Americans or Obama’s promise to halve the deficit instead of doubling it – the list could go on and on. Just admit that you are a pawn of the White House – oh wait, that would be reporting the truth.

You are bringing up a year old comment (which was absolutely a true statement on Romney’s part

Posted by: Kelly Parr | January 4, 2013, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Romney’s statement was a complete lie.

Romney said 47 percent are people “who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims”. It was a straight forward, ignorant lie. He lost.

Those 47% he wrongly called out as not taking responsibility for their lives, includes those retired and on Social Security (which they paid into all their working lives), our soldiers in combat zones, our soldiers with families who don’t earn enough to pay income tax and students at college with part time jobs who also don’t earn enough to pay income tax.

Other people work hard (and sometimes work more than one job) but are being paid such crappy wages they don’t earn enough to pay income tax does not mean they are living off the government.

The majority of those pay payroll taxes, state taxes, local taxes, sales taxes, tobacco taxes, alcohol taxes.

(With thanks to Librarian)

You brainwashed right wingers really need to learn how to research the TRUTH, instead of repeating the right wing lies.

Romney lied and he deserved to lose.

Since we’ve been talking about homeowners here, it reminded me that the Obamas bought their Chicago home with assistance from CONVICTED FELON Tony Rezko. And they used Chicago PROXY-BUYERS to purchase their Hawaiian estate. For a guy who’s being worshipped as a squeaky clean saint, this sure smells. So your messiah does no wrong, huh?

ABC lies.

Dan, It was the Liberal Utopia of everyone owning a HOME that did this to us! Barney Frank wouldn’t listen to President Bush back in the early 2000′s, and then your Party rode the Anti War Fever into 2007, and the rest is history! I just hope our finances aren’t history! Happy New Year!

Posted by: Francis | January 4, 2013, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

1) Tony Rezko was not a convicted felon when Obama dealt with him; he was a major, respected businessman;
2) The Obamas don’t own a Hawaiin estate.

Please come out in November 2014, and get the idiocy an liberalism out of Washington! Save MY KID a mortgage that he CANNOT afford!

2) 2004: Under President Bush, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development announces that it will require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, also known as the Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) “to increase their purchase of mortgages for low- and moderate-income families and underserved communities.” In order to meet these new requirements, the GSEs begin purchasing mortgage-backed securities made up of subprime loans.

All Republican Congress, and a Republican President – not Democrat.

Yup you’re right my Friend! Where did the GSE’s come from my friend? Leave the private Mortgage Market alone! That is the conclusion of this story! Bush ran as a “Compassionate” Conservative! Screw that ! We need a real conservative approach to Public Policy on the Federal Level! No offense here, but what just happened in November, and now in January, will cost generations Millions if not Trillions, unless we change course!

Posted by: Francis | January 4, 2013, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

You make no sense Francis.

At least Dan is finally buying into the fact that it wasn’t just Bush, but the Government’s intrusion into the private Mortgage Market! We’re making progress!

At least Dan is finally buying into the fact that it wasn’t just Bush, but the Government’s intrusion into the private Mortgage Market! We’re making progress!

Posted by: theeightiesruled1 | January 4, 2013, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

1) Bush homeownership plan aims at 5.5 million lift for minorities (2003)

President Bush announced an Administration effort to increase home ownership rates among African Americans and Hispanics by 5.5 million by 2010.

The plan would provide down payment assistance to 40,000 minority homebuyers each year . . .
Bush’s plan would be closely tied to . . . minority loan programs offered by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. President Bush commended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s efforts . . .

2) 2004: Under President Bush, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development announces that it will require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, also known as the Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) “to increase their purchase of mortgages for low- and moderate-income families and underserved communities.” In order to meet these new requirements, the GSEs begin purchasing mortgage-backed securities made up of subprime loans.

All REPUBLICAN Congress, and a REPUBLICAN President – not Democrat.

Just like republicans bid to make President Obama a ” one term president.” These guys fail miserably then they have to eat or live out their words.

Again! Dan, You admitting it WASN”T the UNFUNDED Wars, is a saving grace for many that didn’t vote your way! This Compassionate Conservatism, appeased your side, but in the end didn’t do us any good at all! I loved the effort at Bipartisonship from the Bush administration, but now understand that eventually led to it’s demise from the public! We need real PRIVATE business policies in place to get this thing going forward! Unfortunately you just VOTED against a GUY that was saying this! A Morman? Anyone with any color, any religion, or any socioeconimic statis would do right NOW!

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

47% and growing…

Posted by: Bob | January 4, 2013, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

On the very day debate began on a bill to repeal subsidies to Big Oil, an astonishing $131,500 in campaign contributions passed from the hands of oil donors in Midland, Texas into Mitch McConnell’s re-election war chest. Three days later the bill failed by filibuster.

Mitch McConnell is a Republican and the wealthy buy their votes and get wealthier.

The Republicans were the last to make major changes to the income tax rates, hence creating the 47% who don’t pay federal income tax.

Posted by: Dan | January 4, 2013, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Straight forward fact. Sally and Dan are absolutely correct.

HA ! HA ! HA!
Mitt, the 47% will forever haunt you for the rest of your life !!!
You couldn’t live with us, but our powerful voice has forever changed the course of your life !!!
Thank God you kept “stumbling” over your very own lies, in addition, you kept forgetting “what the lie of the day was”.
“Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up!”
…and once he did we did not like him !!!
We will forever be part of your life !!!
Love us or hate us but we are all America ~ all 100%

Posted by: Jenny | January 4, 2013, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

That’s because liberalism is a mental disorder.

All the disparaging remarks he said about the 47% were true about the people who voted for him. After making his statement about them being dependent on government support, he turns around and chooses a running mate who depends on government support. He said the 47% don’t pay taxes. He was describing himself. He is guilty of tax evasion. He received amnesty and amnesty is granted to people who have committed a crime against the government and can forego prosecution if they admit to the crime.

“World English Dictionary

AMNESTY (ˈæmnɪstɪ)

— n , pl -ties

1. a general pardon, esp for offences against a government

2. a period during which a law is suspended to allow offenders to admit their crime without fear of prosecution ”

Romney is a criminal and it wouldn’t surprise me if he continued his tax evasion beyond the amnesty period and I hope he gets prosecuted for it.

After reading most of the comments here, it is sad to see just how many people do nothing but troll message boards with no other purpose but to attack an opinion different than their own.

Adam, Oh, I was talking about the part that stopped at Cushing, OK. The northern part that new system was blocked. (Republicans have proven they can be just as stupid as so called ‘democrats’) Still, H didn’t settle for that and even though the workaround was done years before, he managed to kill the Oklahoma through Texas part. This is still the same part that either plan was to connect to. Sorry. I thought you knew. Aren’t you glad the smart people at least got the first part done even though the jobs and benefits of the complete original plan were stopped. H didn’t kill the part of the pipe that was done. No, thankfully he killed the part that still needs to be done and would have created thousands of jobs and let’s be honest, but who wants that these days? Not H. That’s for sure. His record proves that.

“Mitt, the 47% will forever haunt you for the rest of your life !!!” Actually, the backlash about the 47% comment will haunt this administration for the next four years. After blasting Romney for months about not caring about the 47%, the President cannot rationalize ignoring the 47% who didn’t vote for him as he and his party did during his first term.

I’d wager that Romney’s 47 percent have a higher collective IQ than Barry’s 53 percent.

Of course R. cares about 100%…now. Only now he wants to know where they work! He never saw an American job or company he didn’t want sent to China or India or Mexico or….I just wish he’d take the McDonalds, Burger Kings Chick-Fil-As and other “fast” food joints with him. There are about 50-75 companies that do Americans no good at all. And we have proved that a large company going missing has little to no affect on anyone’s life or economy. Bye-Bye R. and careful with that door on your way out.

A censored media is a dangerous example of things to come.

Romney is a SNOB, the VAST majority of the American 47% are Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid recipients. These are paid for from income contributions and should be paid out to those that qualify. Simply stated, they are already paid for, and for the Government to come along and deny benefits to shift that money to pay for tax-breaks for the Wealthy is silly. To be quite honest, for anyone to post that immagrants are the majority of recipients is over the top. Get a grip.

By the way I am American true to the bone. My Family has been here for many generations. One thing I have seen in my many years is that the rich are only concerned in making more money, not spending. They wonder why we are in the state we are in.

Take off your glasses! Discount all the fraud votes and Romney won by a landslide. With a corrupt DOJ and other Obama Chicago thugs, itg was evident (AND NOTHING DONE) for the obvious election fraud. Philadelphia for example – not one Romeny vote in all sectors and all monitors not permited to watch for fraud. Come on now. Obama stole the election by fraud.

Actually John, the ONLY voter-fraud cases in the news were Republicans cheating, unless the accusation is the GOP cheated to get Obama elected. The last election (Obama won), there were 90 cases of voter-fraud, 30 were prosecuted, it doesn’t pay to do it.

Ok , we get it–Obama won. Whether it was fair or not, he is back. Now he can do one of two things. Be the great president you liberals talk about or continue being what he was in the first term. I hope he shows leadership this time, but from early indications, it is business as usual. He will blame everyone else–Now it isn’t Bush, it’s the Repulicans. He wants to destroy the Republican party, so he can do what he pleases (increase Debt Limit by himself, etc..) This may be fine for all you Liberals–Just having one party, it scares the hell out of me. Without checks and balances, might as well become a dictatorship. So, if he is such a Savor–Prove it.

Adam–Then who will he have to blame? The American People. Will it really change–First two years of his first term, he had Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate. And what did we get for it?–Obamacare. 68% of the American People didn’t want it. Wow, if he has a Democratic majority again from 2014 to 2016, what will he do? Get rid of that pesky Consititution? Maybe the Bill of Rights–you know that hampers his style! Or that two term requirement for President–Get a third or more term of his steamy goodness? Perhaps, by then, the rest of the country will be sucking on the Govt. Freebie Pipe! Or the Chinese will call in the loans and the country will be on its way to becoming like Greece. If 2014 is as you predict, maybe this time, more than 30 states will petition to cede from the union.

My point is if Obama is a leader–Prove it. Stop the blaming crap and do his job! The start is not good–hasn’t kept a promise yet. But he has four more years–Show me and the rest of America, we are on the right path. In other words, Put up or shut up!

Posted by: Brendan | January 5, 2013, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

A major part of Obama’s campaign in 2008 was ensuring health care for as many Americans as possible and Obamacare was his campaign promise kept. Americans liked almost all of the component parts of Obamacare – they didn’t like the bickering and backstabbing going on over the bill. And they liked those elements despite the attempt by the Republican right to demonize the bill with nonsense like “death panels” and “kill granny”.

Really, Adam, Pelosi said to the rest of the House “If you want to see what in this bill (Obamacare), you need to pass it!” Wow, now we get to see what we bought. I just love how the Democrats have demonized Repulicans. Pushing Granny off the cliff–Really??? And if the Republicans are such a problem–All Obama has to use the “Executive Order” to bypass. This whole fiscal cliff was a political show and the President did what he set out to do–divide the Republican Party and perhaps, try to push it to its demise.
Do you really think by upping the tax rates on “the top 2%” really going to help the defecit? the amount will run the federal government for 8.5 days. Now he did not even get the really rich (Living off assets and dividends) It remains the same low rates for them. I also saw an interview with Howard “Screaming’ Dean. Tax increases are coming for the middle class. Think I am lying–Prove me wrong with fact not feeling.

And for the grand deal that our president is satisfied with: $43 spending for each $1 cut. Do you truly believe that is going to work? Or are you going to blame the Republicans again? Makes Obama look impotent as a leader. We are looking for leadership, not to play the blame game. I’m not seeing it. And if what you hope for happens in 2014, Who are you going to blame???? The economy is still crap and with what Pres Obama has proposed–it will remain crap. If he wants a clue to fix it, all Obama has do is emulate the smarter Democrat-JFK not FDR as he is trying to.

BRENDAN: “Really, Adam, Pelosi said to the rest of the House “If you want to see what in this bill (Obamacare), you need to pass it!”” – - – Good grief! It is stunning that there are still conservatives who are either clueless enough or dishonest enough to continue cherry picking Pelosi out of context to distort the meaning of what she said. How convenient of you to not only misquote her but to ignore the FULL CONTEXT of what she acctually said. Specifically, the relevant sentence in its entirety was, ““But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” Conservatives always conviently and dishonestly leave out the “away from the fog of the controversy” part. The controversy, specifically the lies and distortions conservatives were fabricating about it were making it impossible for many people to accurately understand what it really said. The controversies and lies were distorting what was really in the bill, and the only way for some people at least, if not a lot of people, to rationally and objectively consider what the bill really said was to end much of the controversy by passing it. Granted, that did not stop the lies about the bill.

And this is why Romney lost hahha

Well Adam, I hope for the country’s sake, I am as wrong as you point out. Democrats are the experts of obscuring the Issues. Obama hid his record for his first term with a vicious mis directed campaign. Women’s rights, Minority rights (Who can forget VP Biden’s “They will send you back in chains”.) and Abortion? As for Obama’s Leadership–I has been characterized by “My way or the Highway” or “We won, Suck it up” $ 43 of spending vs $ 1 in cuts–Wow, Adam, Do you believe you could run your household like that? I really question your intellegence if you think you can. And this is the balanced approach, President Obama promised.

As for the 2% that you cherry picked out of my previous statement. It is the 2% of Income paying rich. The ones who invest in companies and create jobs. You are not going to touch Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Koch Brothers, George Soros or other of their class. Their tax rates remain unchanged. If Obama was smart, he would offer a tax cut to anyone that created US Jobs. As for Romney, he put money into offshore accounts during the late 80′s when it was still legal. I can see from your responses that you have limited business experience. You minimize taxes–you and I do this by deductions and investments. If the tax rates get too high–you have a situation similar France. The French Government was going to put a 75% tax on millionares. Gerard Depardieu threatened to relocate to Belgum and renounce his French Citizenship. Thankfully, someone in the French Government with sense stopped this.

Hey Joey Obama had 4 years to put this country on a right track he didnt do crap.

Posted by: Alan | January 5, 2013, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

You could only say that if you’re completely ignorant of the disaster the country was in when Bush left the White House.

Lol i love how everyone blames Bush,For everything i will agree with you Bush did F somethings Up Adam but What you got to understand is the fact Obama Did nothing NOTHING. so if you are the ignorant not to relize that god help you man. What kind of man are you to blame someone else the whole time and not deal with it yourself. I was raised even if other people Screw things up you dont blame them the whole time you just deal with it but I guess that answers out Question you are not a real man just a Libral that hides behind laws and goverment,and like i said Bush did screw somethings up there was alot obama cound of done and didnt deal with.

You are not going to touch Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Koch Brothers, George Soros or other of their class. Their tax rates remain unchanged.

Posted by: Brendan | January 5, 2013, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Wrong again Brendan. The capital gains tax was raised.

Posted by: Adam | January 5, 2013, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

As usual, the right wingers can’t get their facts right. Adam does.

“Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood…

Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while America’s people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.”

Adam you are a broken record you are just like Obama you didnt even answer all my questions you just keep blaming bush OMG wait it really is Obama no wonder.

He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement – as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.

And all your freaking smearing of our President will NOT change the fact that he is the President of the United States of America until 2016. GET OVER IT!

I can’t wait to see you racists’ heads explode when a minority WOMAN is elected! Good night. I can’t stand the company here.

Stan, stupid racist comments demand to be addressed in the harshest terms! How do they blame division along racial lines on President Obama and do it with a straight face? Pres. Obama’s election(s) merely highlight the dormant racism that lies like a snake beneath the fabric of this country and has from its very inception! THat’s why we hear descriptions of them “living the high life while we suffer.” Do they criticize the Romney’s of the world, who hide their money? NO! Do they criticize the so-called “job makers” for their lack of provision of jobs? NO! This makes their arguments against the President so invalid . I’m sick of them trying to hide their REAL reason for the way they speak of the leader of the free world and the leader of the USA!

Posted by: Randy | January 6, 2013, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Quit whining about the President of the United States taking a few days holiday. Tens of thousands of Americans will holiday in Hawaii – get over it.

I understood what Romney meant right away. Out of the people that are voting (which is in the 60% range of the population) 47% of them do not pay taxes. That is roughly 30% of the voting population.
That makes complete sense. I’m sure he wasn’t talking about military, retired seniors, ect.. All of the liberal hype was just that. Given the number of people on food stamps, and the un and under employed, I don’t doubt that 47% of the people whoi voted don’t pay federal income tax and would not vote for Romney. All of those inner city people that were bussed to the poles adds up.
With all of the back and forth the facts remain, we are spending way more than we take in, no amount of taxation will fix it, we either grow our way out or the US collapses and falls into civil war under a dictatorship. Unfortunately I believe the latter is inevitable under this government (Democrat and Republican alike)

Posted by: Joe Sockit | January 6, 2013, 9:00 am 9:00 am

And your figures are just as wrong as Romney’s. Many of the 47% Romney called ‘dependent’ are retired seniors, military, students working their way through college and working people who are paid such poor wages they still live below the poverty level. All of hose people are far from ‘dependent’. Romney was arrogant, elitist and just plain wrong. So are you.

DAVE, Just wanted to mention that seniors are NOT dependent in the same way that foodstamp/welfare people are. Seniors EARNED their Social Security themselves by working hard, whereas the other group has NOT earned it, and they just take from taxpayers.

With just a few words Romney exposed what’s inside his heart and head. It was insulting and ugly.

So I love when people blame Bush for the crappy economy, ‘Obama inherited’. I’m a real estate attorney, the housing crash was thanks to Clinton and Freddy Mae and Frannie Mac, end of discussion. Let me put it this way, so many of you are quick to point out that Right Wingers are fine with people starving, dying etc if they can’t afford it, so if you believe in that logic of the republican party, does it then make sense to make a huge leap and say that all of the sudden, republicans said one day, “hell, lets force the banks to take a bunch of crappy loans from people that can’t afford the houses they are buying and can’t even put a down payment down cause by golly, we want everyone to feel warm and cozy, even if they can’t afford it”. Nope, that’s not a republican, republicans by nature and party are fiscally conservative, now a democrat would be all over that and they were. So please, you can’t say one thing about a party, then pretend and morph them into something their not to blame a finically crisis on them. It’s just one of the stupidest things I hear on a regular basis in my job and I’m sick as hell of it

Posted by: Mike | January 6, 2013, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Romney said “there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims”.

He was clearly wrong. The only figure that corresponds with the 47% are people who don’t pay federal income tax.

Many of that 47% Romney called ‘dependent’ are retired seniors, military, students working their way through college and working people who are paid such poor wages they still live below the poverty level. All of hose people are far from ‘dependent’.

Romney was arrogant, elitist and just plain wrong. So are you.

p.s.- the majority of those people pay payroll taxes, state taxes, local taxes, sales taxes, tobacco taxes, alcohol taxes, etc.

Adam, Mst-Mac and Stan the American–Appreciate the correction to the capital gains rate–yes I can admit I am wrong on some facts. However, I really have to look to history to see that this is the wrong path. I am not afraid to say that I did not agree with what Bush did. However, I know raising taxes, increasing regulations and increasing Govt spending is no way to fix the ecomnomy. All you have to do is look at your beloved FDR–I think Obama is trying to emulate. Looking back, it has been said that FDR extended the Great Depresion longer that it needed to be and if it wasn’t for WWII, it could have lasted even longer.

This raising ot tax rates will not increase revenues. It has been shown time and time again to reduce receipts to the Govt. What we earn is not the Govt Money for them to dole out back to us–but what we pay for services. And if you want to call anyone arrogant and elitest–you need to include all of Govt (including State, county and City). From what I see, the liberals want to take care of us like misguided children. Given this past election, I can see why this is.

Now you gentlemen will point out that I am wrong and “All is well in America–with the exception of those Pesky Republicans.” My Charge to you is “PROVE IT” As for Blame. President Obama and all Govt should adapt “The Buck Stops Here” from Harry S.Truman–Another Democrat.

So as said before “Stop the spin” Your Party won–Now prove to us that this was the better decision–you have 4 years to do this.

Commenting on what BRENDAN says, raising taxes on the rich will wreak havoc on investments and businesses. Unemployment will soar. The middle class will be further strained. The tax increases will NOT balance the budget because spending is so out of control. In short, the economy will be PARALIZED, and we can forget about any kind of a recovery.

Does not change the fact he was right…

Posted by: Bruce | January 6, 2013, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

No, Romney was wrong.

Romney said “there are 47 percent . . . who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims”.

He was clearly wrong. The only figure that corresponds with the 47% are people who don’t pay federal income tax.

Many of that 47% Romney called ‘dependent’ are retired seniors, people serving in the military, students working their way through college and working people who are paid such poor wages they still live below the poverty level.

All of those people are far from ‘dependent’.

Romney was arrogant, elitist and just plain wrong. So are you.

p.s.- the majority of those people pay payroll taxes, state taxes, local taxes, sales taxes, tobacco taxes, alcohol taxes, etc.

And now that Obama “quietly” gutted the work requirement

Posted by: Frankie | January 6, 2013, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

He didn’t. At the request of Republican Governors he put more control into the hands of the states. Only 4% of the country is on welfare and over 50% of those are on it for less that 2 years.

In response to RANDY, the latest data from the Dept. of Agriculture released on January 4, 2013 shows 47.5 million people on foodstamps. It’s strange, but if Obama is REALLY interested in reducing the number of people on the public dole and getting them back to working, WHY did Dept. of Agriculture personnel meet 30 times with the Mexican government to promote foodstamps among Mexican immigrants? And WHY did the Dept. of Agriculture post guides on their website to entice seniors to enroll in welfare? This seems to indicate that Obama WANTS more and more people on foodstamps and on the government gravy train. Spending on the food stamps program has increased 100 % since Obama took office, and now one in seven Americans uses food stamps. Back in the 1970s, one out of every 50 Americans was on food stamps, notes the Daily Caller. So, HOW are things getting any better? Everything seems to indicate that it’s just getting WORSE.

Responding to RANDY’s comment “you need to do some research beyond right wing blogs.” I look on the left wing ones as well, but I discern between things that are true and those that are not. Left wing blogs omit much of what is REALLY going on with the Obama administration, including the mess with Benghazi. I’m one of those people who believes in being fully informed so that I know the TRUTH about what Obama is REALLY doing.