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The name of the mother of alleged Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev was placed in a U.S. terrorism database at the same time as her son’s was in October 2011.
The CIA requested that both their names be placed in the U.S. government’s terrorism database known as TIDE (Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment) after it received information from the Russian government that it considered the pair to be potential Islamic militants. An earlier FBI investigation prompted by another Russian request determined that Tamerlan Tsarnaev had no ties to terrorism.
(Image Credit: Musa Sadulayev/AP Photo)
Tsarnaev died in a fierce gun fight with Boston police last week. He and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, are accused of carrying out the bombings at the Boston Marathon that killed three and injured more than 260. Dzokhar Tsarnaev, 19, is in the Federal Medical Center Devens, about 40 miles from Boston.
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On Thursday, at a news conference in Makhachkala, Russia, Zubeidat Tsarnaev said her sons had been “framed” by U.S. authorities, and she denied that her son had made contacts with Islamist militants during an extended visit to Russia last year.
Inclusion on the TIDE list of 700,000 names does not mean an individuals are suspected of carrying out terrorist activities or that they require surveillance or face travel restrictions. Instead, the list, maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center, serves as the base point for relevant federal agencies to come up with more specific watch lists that match their criteria, such as the Transportation Security Administration’s no-fly list.
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Earlier in the week U.S. officials confirmed that Russia’s intelligence agency, the FSB, had made two separate requests of the FBI and the CIA to investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev for potential ties to Islamic extremists. The FBI’s investigation in early 2011 concluded that Tsarnaev did not have ties to terror groups. That information was conveyed to the FSB, but the FBI never received a response.
The intelligence official says that a subsequent FSB request sent to the CIA in September 2011 to investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev also contained information about his mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva.
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The official said the Russian request indicated the pair were considered to be strong believers in Islam and potential militants, and it was feared they might cause trouble if they came back to Russia.
A U.S. official said earlier this week that the CIA had “nominated” Tamarlan Tsarnaev’s name for inclusion in the TIDE database out of “an abundance of caution.” It was later determined that the alternate spelling of his names and dates of birth provided by Russia to the CIA were all incorrect.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev was also included in a separate database in the spring of 2011 as the FBI tried to determine whether he had conducted any foreign travel.
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Those entries place in TECS — the Treasury Enforcement and Communication System — remain active for only a year.
This was the database that Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told a Senate panel Tuesday had “pinged” when Tsarnaev left the United States in January 2012 on a six-month trip to Russia. The trip has been a focus of speculation that Tsarnaev might have made contact with or received terrorist training in the Dagestan region where he was visiting relatives.
A U.S. official explained that the positive hit when Tsarnaev left the United States resulted in the Joint Terrorism Task Force’s being notified that he had left the country. It is unclear which federal agency within the task force would have actually received the notification of his travel and what was done with the information.
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When Tsarnaev returned to the United States in June 2012, there was no “ping” of his TECS database entry because it had already expired. TIDE entries do not expire, but there was also no positive hit in the TIDE database because it turned out that all of the personal details provided to the CIA by Russia were inaccurate.
According to the official, even if Tsarnaev’s name and details had been accurately fed into the TIDES database, U.S. customs officials would have found that the FBI’s investigation had been closed and that it had not been determined that he was a threat.
Furthermore, even if the TECS database entry for Tsarnaev had not expired after a year, that, too, would have brought up the information that his case had been closed.
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She also had an arrest warrant out for shop lifiting $1,200 worth of clothing in the US. Nice family, and the jails are full of innocent people.:)
Posted by: Julie | April 26, 2013, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
If the FBI and CIA had investigated as they claim they did, the misspellings that they are now claiming the Russians made would have been discovered and corrected. Basically, Obama admin including Janet overly muslim and terrorist friendly got MORE americans murdered again and they are lying to CYA. Why isn’t Janet on charges? Obama and hers ineptness or muslim and terrorist agenda has resulted in many murders and maimings.
Posted by: bunnysaysitall | April 26, 2013, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Poor Dad …. he must really be henpecked.
Posted by: Bensky | April 26, 2013, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
I beliveve this “mother” is responsible for her one son’s death and her other sons’ downfall. If you are going to endorse radicalism, there is a price to pay, and she is paying it. This may sound inhumane, but I believe it serves her right.
Posted by: lifesajourney | April 26, 2013, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Congress must reduce budget for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to directly fund Local Law Enforcement Agencies. The DEA does nothing to stem flows of synthetic drugs (lysergic acid, methamphetamine, PCP) into Massachusetts. This region literally drowns in MDMA, bath salts, hashish, and rohypnol. International terror Activists rely on white Hippies for provision of substances to induce psychoses and paranoia.
Posted by: brianxjones73sc | April 26, 2013, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I had heard earlier that she was on the TIDE in 2011, This plot is getting wider, that warrant for her shoplifting is nothing. Now all the rants of her sons are innocent, Boston was staged connects a few dots. I get the impression Putin is not too fond of terriost and with that said I would expect this woman to be doing more than moving she’s hiding.
Posted by: Trisha | April 26, 2013, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Happy that “mom” is on no fly list. No one wants deluded person here.
Posted by: turtle | April 26, 2013, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
RE Mom: Shoot first and ask questions later!
Posted by: DRJJJ | April 26, 2013, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Earth to “Bunnysaysitall”…. what part of: “Inclusion on the TIDE list of 700,000 names does not mean an individuals are suspected of carrying out terrorist activities or that they require surveillance or face travel restrictions.” is confusing to you?
They were not known terrorists or even suspected terrorists… they were on a list of 700K other names that simply have been deemed to have a higher potential to cause problems… you can’t watch them all 24×7. Therefore your Obama’s “Muslim terrorist agenda” comment is nonsense.
Posted by: Marvin | April 26, 2013, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Why do we continue to accept excuses and buck passing where these terrorist are concerned? Hind sight might be 20/20, but hind sight doesn’t change the fact that mistakes and the blame game are getting Americans killed.
Posted by: Janet Wilson | April 26, 2013, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
So shoplifting is just one of her many claims to fame.
Posted by: newcountryman | April 26, 2013, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
It is clear by reading the article, if everything WAS correct and working properly, it still would not have triggered a response by the Fed’s. So I guess the question is, why do they even have the system in place if it does not work properly? Once again, an over burdened system that is so over whelmed it fails on the largest of levels. Also, if the FBI had interviewed the older of the two bothers and knew who he was, why did they need the publics help in identifying him even when they had his picture? We must be able to protect ourselves and stop relying on an inept government.
Posted by: J Darko | April 26, 2013, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
If it looks like a witch, sounds like a witch and acts like a witch…
Posted by: Aaron Ververs | April 26, 2013, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Janet Wilson I believe we have become afraid of stepping on toes!! I personally believe too bad but better to track these people, interview them,their families and friends, whatever it takes. Obviously we are behind the eight ball again no one is checking on these student visas, asylum rescues and lord knows what is crossing that Mexican border. We are in some deep doo doo until our protectors step it up.
Posted by: Trisha | April 26, 2013, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Janet Wilson I believe we have become afraid of stepping on toes! We are in some deep doo doo until our protectors step it up.
Posted by: Trisha | April 26, 2013, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Not really. There have been 23 terrorist plots uncovered and thwarted under President Obama. Additional plots uncovered and thwarted previously under Bush.
Posted by: Ruby | April 26, 2013, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
“Hind sight might be 20/20, but hind sight doesn’t change the fact that mistakes and the blame game are getting Americans killed.”
The only people playing the blame game are the idiots who are both not involved in the process and don’t even understand how the process works. We can’t go around arresting people for things they might do.
Posted by: AmericaThePitiful | April 26, 2013, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I can’t take the mother’s tearless cries anymore. Can she be any more insincere? Lady enough of the acting already. You know the real truth; You can’t fool anyone.
Posted by: Nick | April 26, 2013, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
These radicals are such hypocrites! They do drugs, they steal. Then they go out and kill innocent people just because those innocent people are “infidels”, not following the same religion!
Posted by: cncrnd | April 26, 2013, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
AARON VERVERS: Then it is a witch.
Posted by: ZZbar | April 26, 2013, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I just love how the media agencies purposefully use unflattering images of people and then link them with the headlines. For instance, you use an image of this woman with an angry expression on her face along with the headline that reads, “Suspects mother was on US terror database.” I mean, you couldn’t have used some “other” image “other” than an angry face? Like say, the one where she’s just sitting there calmly. I know you guys have lots of those because I’ve seen them. Media needs to stop with the subliminally demonizing propaganda already. Well played ABC. Well Played.
Posted by: Joseph | April 26, 2013, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
No wonder she is putting on such a huge act, the screaming, shouting, hand gestures, right out of Borat. Primitive peasants from a backward country. We are lucky that the two monkeys didn’t make it to their aunt in Toronto, because they would never extradite them back to the States. She even screamed Allah Akbar into the phone on an interview the other day.
Posted by: Les | April 26, 2013, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
The apple never falls far from the tree. Time to cut it down as well.
Posted by: dronestrikeonher | April 26, 2013, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
ABC loves digging up old photos that fits the narrative. Just saying.
Posted by: newcountryman | April 26, 2013, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
ruby said-”-Not really. There have been 23 terrorist plots uncovered and thwarted under President Obama. Additional plots uncovered and thwarted previously under Bush”—————-Several MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACKS HAVE HAPPENED UNDER OBAMA—FOrt Hood Shooter yelling Allah Akbar as he gunned down his fellow Americans——The Boston Marathon Bombers—-The Oklahma city shooter who killed a soldier— Yet Obama has remove the terms Jihad and radical Islam !!—–WHY??? How do you fight an enemy you can’t even identify!!!
Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 26, 2013, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Do we really have to give these people any more “face time”???
Posted by: dgh629 | April 26, 2013, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
How do you fight an enemy you can’t even identify!
Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 26, 2013, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
The 23 jihadist terrorist plots uncovered and thwarted under Obama show exactly how it’s done. It’s done by our security and intelligence services.
Posted by: Bob | April 26, 2013, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
bob said—-”The 23 jihadist terrorist plots uncovered and thwarted under Obama show exactly how it’s done. It’s done by our security and intelligence services”———–Could you provide a link detailing the 23 plots thwarted in America please!! Thanks.
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Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 26, 2013, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Could you provide a link detailing the 23 plots thwarted in America please!! Thanks.
Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 26, 2013, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
No one is allowed to post links on this site. Search “Fifty Terror Plots Foiled Since 9/11: The Homegrown Threat and the Long War on Terrorism” available through the Heritage Foundation.
Posted by: Bob | April 26, 2013, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
BOB—Thanks I did not know there were so many attacks!!! I wonder why Obama felt it was necesary to stop calling Islamist terrorists–Islamist terrorist???
Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 26, 2013, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Big mistake, she should have been put on the raving lunatic watch list instead. Women like this make it difficult to argue against the Muslim teachings about beating women. Just saying.
Posted by: Kevin Joseph | April 26, 2013, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Surprise, surprise.
Posted by: DWileyOne | April 26, 2013, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
The mother of these two clowns should be arrested for the crime of world class idiocy.
Posted by: Eddie Brown | April 26, 2013, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
These government lists scare me. Who decides to put people on these lists?
Posted by: Susan | April 27, 2013, 12:06 am 12:06 am
SHE’S A NIGHTMARE.
Posted by: SUMI LEE | April 27, 2013, 1:25 am 1:25 am
The only difference between this woman and Jodi Arias, Amanda Knox, and Casey Anthony is that Americans feel that their own female murderers are too cute to be guilty.
Posted by: Me | April 27, 2013, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Isn’t the guy next to her the dude from The Who? All jokes aside, would we have allowed the Japanese to raise a flag at Pearl Harbor? Why then are we allowing Muslims to build a mosque at ground zero? It is a ploy. Please look a Islamic history especially in Africa and see that Muslims have typically raised a mosque on top of non-Islamic structures they have previously destroyed. We must never allow them this opportunity.
Posted by: Me | April 27, 2013, 1:35 am 1:35 am
ONLY A SMALL MINORITY OF MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS. JUST B/C THERE ARE SOME INSANE FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS, DOES THAT MAKE ALL CHRISTIANS DANGEROUS? NO. MOST MUSLIMS WANT WHAT MOST PEOPLE WANT. PEACE. DON’T BE HATERS!!! EDUCATE YOURSELF. IGNORANCE IS DANGEROUS.
Posted by: SUMI LEE | April 27, 2013, 2:06 am 2:06 am
For the sake of American national security, they should put me on their terrorist list. Nobody hates America more than I do and every inch of my being screams for the destruction of the illegal, evil state of israel and bring the arrogant Americans to their knees. I have kept all options open in this casue and wouldn’t hesitate to strike at the first opportunity. Am I not a potential terrorist?
Posted by: Uvais Cassim | April 27, 2013, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Americans are so dumbed to believe this stupid stories. everyday stories got change from previously what they told us. After heavy firefight police recovered only damp single shot gun.. OH…. dear
Posted by: Raja | April 27, 2013, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Dzhokhar told the FBI that they were angry about the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the killing of Muslims there, officials said.
I too am raging furious for the Muslims helpless situation in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan, but I’m not likely to hurt another human being, but wouldn’t shed a tear if the retaliatory attacks continued. Now the US fools are planning to attack Iran. If they do, I’ll personally launch a devastating Jihad mankind had ever witnessed.
Posted by: Uvais Cassim | April 27, 2013, 2:19 am 2:19 am
It seems to me that IGNORANCE is the real problem here. And by ignorance, I mean religion. There is no God, no Allah, no higher power, no afterlife, and no reason to hate other groups of people based on these ignorant beliefs. And by the way Sumi Lee and Raja….go home!
Posted by: lifesajourney | April 27, 2013, 2:40 am 2:40 am
I am sure all the Muslims who live in USA are in the list of FBI or CIA as a terrorist suspect.
Posted by: Borntobefree | April 27, 2013, 5:04 am 5:04 am
Really??? on terrorist list??NO???? “apple doesn’t fall far from the tree”. We can choose, to either fill our children with love and hope to pass on or….hate….fear, lack of hope….it is our choice and we will be judged on how we raised our children, the values we tried to inspire our children with…..good or evil, what do you choose. ????? When it’s all over, done and said……yes, we will be judged on this. Hope for our sakes, you choose wisely. Hope you choose what is really good for all humankind!!! We have to live together on planet earth, what can we do each day to make it a better place, for us and our children????!!!! Oh yes, and children learn by example wayyyyy more than what you even say, how are you behaving these days???!!!!
Posted by: kcsue | April 27, 2013, 6:32 am 6:32 am
People are stupid these days. It is widely known that in America there are some who will still harbor stereotypes and will act on that stereotype. So I am sure this thing that blew up Boston would have been smart to know not to commit any illegal acts in the first place.
Posted by: Brian W | April 27, 2013, 7:31 am 7:31 am
No worries. Attorney General Eric Holder said U.S. citizenship for illegal aliens is a civil right. Might as well tell this woman welcome to America, here is your first month of food stamps, and your citizenship papers will be approved shortly.
Posted by: patrick | April 27, 2013, 7:31 am 7:31 am
that’s because she looks like a terrorist actually a gypsy and that is worse then a terrorist she looks like that lady in drag me to h3ll kind of scary maybe she should call charlie sheen and see if she can get in a sequel
Posted by: fletcher christian | April 27, 2013, 8:05 am 8:05 am
It’s just the smartest thing in the world to do, giving that person media coverage so that she can spout her evil and ridiculous ranting’s.
Posted by: Mike Antonelli | April 27, 2013, 8:21 am 8:21 am
She looks very strict.
Posted by: sameagain | April 27, 2013, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Is Mommy dearest trying to say it wasn’t her boys that robbed the store, hijacked the car, or shot the security officer in the head? Has anyone thought about playing the video’s for her?
Posted by: arryandan | April 27, 2013, 9:12 am 9:12 am
What Democrats and gun control has done for Boston the home of the Minute Men and first Tea Party. “All Boston hiding in there home and under there beds because of a 19 year old Muslim terrorist.
Posted by: L R | April 27, 2013, 9:22 am 9:22 am
What I want to know if the FBI had these guys under surveillance & had questioned them for over 3 Years, why didn’t they know who they were when they posted their photos. The Israeli Press has come out & said that these guys were double agents. The Georgian Gov’t has confirmed that the older brother had attended a CIA training center run by the Jamestown Group in Chechnya when he was there for 6 months. It has also come out that they flew in & out of the US with false ID. It is also known that the CIA likes to recruit foreigners from colleges that know 2 or 3 languages. I’m really starting to wonder if these to guys didn’t have help in doing this ????
Posted by: concerned | April 27, 2013, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Our government has gotten to large so that too many people are involved which creates errors like what allowed these Muslim terrorists to stay in our country!!! The oldest was on the terrorist watch lists–warned by Russia SEVERAL times—meanwhile he is living off the American taxpayer by getting welfare!!!! The government is ttoo BIG–if it was smaller and more efficient then maybe they could have caught the terrorist warning and the Muslim terrorist getting welfare!! This big bloated government is ineffective–slow– which is putting Americans in danger!!! It is time to cut the size of government and the amount of Americans on welfare!!
Posted by: werallslaves301 | April 27, 2013, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Stupid ignorant woman, completly in denial.
Posted by: frenchie11 | April 27, 2013, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Looks like she’d be an awful lot of fun to be around.
Posted by: newcountryman | April 27, 2013, 9:48 am 9:48 am
So we have a system to track 700,000 people’s comings and goings but it’s “unclear” which agencies get information about their travels? That makes sense.
Posted by: Quid est veritas | April 27, 2013, 10:02 am 10:02 am
People, it is way past time to crack down and make our immigration laws tighter than an old maid’s drawers. Democrats want the votes and Republicans want the cheap labor. We are doomed if both keep going with their heads in the sand. This “Mamma Terrorist Nut” should be avoided more than a foaming mouthed , mad dog. God save us all !
Posted by: oldfuzz695 | April 27, 2013, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Organized religion – ALL organized religion – is a cancer on humanity.
Posted by: dano | April 27, 2013, 10:43 am 10:43 am
They’ll need to keep a better eye on her now cause she’s probably more a threat thanshe may have been before.
Posted by: joemeek | April 27, 2013, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I realize looks can be deceiving, but she does look like she would bite the head off a chicken if given the chance.
Posted by: Roscoe Chait | April 27, 2013, 10:49 am 10:49 am
I see where the kids get their looks and charm! Has anyone told Mother Delusional that her younger sone RAN OVER his brother?
Posted by: crabbyoldb | April 27, 2013, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Dano, its not just religion it’s any ideology that people consider an ultimate truth…communism was supposedly secular but it led to horrifying results.
Posted by: Quid est veritas | April 27, 2013, 11:18 am 11:18 am
The mother is crazy yelling and throwing her arms around! The sons had an idiot for a mother and a thief also it comes to light!
Posted by: Jean | April 27, 2013, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Gee, I hope no one decides to go all “Jack Ruby” at the airport on this pair of they decide to return to the US to visit little Jokhar.
Posted by: Ellen | April 27, 2013, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Where was she when they were casting for the Wicked Witch of the West in “The Great and Powerful Oz?”
Posted by: hmp49 | April 27, 2013, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
I am amazed at how you people don’t think for yourselves. The media has fed you information, and you buy it hook , line, and sinker. The stories don’t add up, it is a serious threat to American, that people convict someone before evidence is presented. I have sat on jury trials with people just like you. Our justice system is flawed. The media decides what you will think. wake up! Ignorance and prejudice are ruining America.
Police are shooting like crazy in a “gun battle” at the boat, when he was unarmed? That doesn’t give you a clue. He admits to the bombings, behind closed doors in front on no eye witnesses? The car jacking, instead of the reported pipe bombs being thrown out, the driver said they spoke of music and girls. seriously, not one friend or professor can say that he was a suspicious person? He was a normal every day kid. He smoked pot? oh my, so has 80 percent of all college age kids. Questioning authority and watching youtube, yes that is what young people do? they watch and are curious. I hope they got the right guys, but nothing adds up. MIT officer, RIP, where is there a witness to it being them? They see themselves on TV as wanted and of course they are going to panic, but before that the older brother was home watching his kid and the younger one was going about his happy life.
Posted by: openminded | April 28, 2013, 1:43 am 1:43 am
He did not run over his brother btw. The one eye witness saw him drive out and not over his brother. It is incredible all of the stuff that they reported that were not true. Watch and listen to the reports going from day one forward, You should ALWAYS look at all facts before rushing to judgment. I am looking at it all, and I am frankly baffled that this case is being now built upon this video of the mom? wow. trust me, if you were on trial, you would want some evidence presented before your verdict was decided.
Posted by: openminded | April 28, 2013, 1:53 am 1:53 am
And here they come again.
Posted by: joemeek | April 28, 2013, 6:54 am 6:54 am
Islamic people will help US become more powerful, haha
Posted by: worklifer | April 30, 2013, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
She looks like a typical terrorist.
Posted by: Hugh | May 1, 2013, 7:52 am 7:52 am