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One hundred days into his second term, President Obama, paraphrasing Mark Twain, told reporters, “rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated.”
When it comes to Congress, the President has had a tough start to his second term. He has made major efforts to pass gun control and to undo the sequester spending cuts only to face decisive defeats. And, in one less publicized defeat, he threatened to veto a cyber security bill only to see the House overwhelmingly pass it with 92 Democrats defying the president and voting yes.
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All of that prompted me to ask the President if he still has the juice to get his second term agenda through Congress. The question prompted the President to forcefully knock down the notion that he is a lame duck president, predicting big accomplishments ahead, including on immigration reform.
He also lashed out at Congress, saying –
“You know, Jonathan, you seem to suggest that somehow, these folks over there have no responsibilities and that my job is to somehow get them to behave. That’s their job.”
Watch the full exchange HERE and read it below:
KARL: Mr. President, you are a hundred days into your second term. On the gun bill, you put, it seems, everything into it to try to get it passed. Obviously, it didn’t. Congress has ignored your efforts to try to get them to undo these sequester cuts. There was even a bill that you threatened to veto that got 92 Democrats in the House voting yes. So my question to you is do you still have the juice to get the rest of your agenda through this Congress?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, if you put it that way, Jonathan — (laughter) — maybe I should just pack up and go home. (Laughter.) Golly. You know, the — I think it’s — it’s a little — (chuckles) — as Mark Twain said, you know, rumors of my demise may be a little exaggerated at this point.
Look, we — you know, we understand that we’re in divided government right now. Republicans control the House of Representatives. In the Senate, this habit of requiring 60 votes for even the most modest piece of legislation has gummed up the works there. And I think it’s — comes to no surprise, not even to the American people, but even to members of Congress themselves, that right now things are pretty dysfunctional up on Capitol Hill.
Despite that, I’m actually confident that there are a range of things that we’re going to be able to get done. I feel confident that the bipartisan work that’s been done on immigration reform will result in a bill that passes the Senate and passes the House and gets on my desk. And that’s going to be a historic achievement. And I’m — I’ve been very complimentary of the efforts of both Republicans and Democrats in those efforts.
It is true that the sequester is in place right now. It’s damaging our economy, it’s hurting our people and we need to lift it. What’s clear is, is that the only way we’re going to lift it is we do a bigger deal that meets the test of lowering our deficit and growing our economy at the same time, and that’s going to require some compromises on the part of both Democrats and Republicans. I’ve had some good conversations with Republican senators so far. Those conversations are continuing. I think there’s a genuine desire on many of their parts to move past not only sequester but Washington dysfunction. Whether we can get it done or not, you know, we’ll see.
But I think, you know, the sequester’s a good example, or this recent FAA issue is a good example. You’ll recall that, you know, even as recently as my campaign, Republicans were saying, sequester’s terrible. This is a disaster. It’s going to ruin our military. It’s going to be disastrous for the economy. We’ve got to do something about it.
Then when it was determined that doing something about it might mean that we close some tax loopholes for the wealthy and the well- connected, suddenly, well, you know what? We’ll take the sequester. And the notion was, somehow, that we had exaggerated the effects of the sequester. Remember? The president’s, you know, crying wolf. He’s chicken little. The sequester? No problem.
And then in rapid succession, suddenly White House tours, this is terrible. How can we let that happen? Meat inspectors, we’ve got to fix that. And most recently, what are we going to do about potential delays at airports?
So despite the fact that a lot of members of Congress were suggesting that somehow, the sequester was a victory for them and this wouldn’t hurt the economy, what we now know is that what I warned earlier or what Jay stood up here and warned repeatedly is happening. It’s slowed our growth, it’s resulting in people being thrown out of work, and it’s hurting folks all across the country.
And the fact that Congress responded to the short-term problems of flight delays by giving us the option of shifting money that’s designed to repair and improve airports over the long term to fix the short-term problem, well, that’s not a solution. So essentially, what we’ve done is we’ve said, in order to avoid delays this summer, we’re going to ensure delays for the next two or three decades.
KARL: Why did you go along with it?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, hold on a second. The — so the alternative, of course, is either to go ahead and impose a whole bunch of delays on passengers now, which also does not fix the problem, or the third alternative is to actually fix the problem by coming up with a broader, larger deal.
But, you know, Jonathan, you seem to suggest that somehow, these folks over there have no responsibilities and that my job is to somehow get them to behave. That’s their job. They are elected, members of Congress are elected in order to do what’s right for their constituencies and for the American people. So if, in fact, they are seriously concerned about passenger convenience and safety, then they shouldn’t just be thinking about tomorrow or next week or the week after that; they should be thinking about what’s going to happen five years from now, 10 years from now or 15 years from now.
The only way to do that is for them to engage with me on coming up with a broader deal.
And that’s exactly what I’m trying to do is to continue to talk to them about are there ways for us to fix this. Frankly, I don’t think that if I were to veto, for example, this FAA bill, that that somehow would lead to the broader fix. It just means that there’d be pain now, which they would try to blame on me, as opposed to pain five years from now. But either way, the problem’s not getting fixed. The only way the problem does get fixed is if both parties sit down and they say, how are we going to make sure that we’re reducing our deficit sensibly; how are we making sure that we’ve investing in things like rebuilding our airports and our roads and our bridges and investing in early childhood education and all — basic research, all the things that are going to help us grow, and that’s what the American people want.
Just one interesting statistic when it comes to airports. There was a recent survey of the top airports in the country — in the world. And there was not a single U.S. airport that came in the top 25, not one. Not one U.S. airport was considered by the experts and consumers who use these airports to be in the top 25 in the world. I think Cincinnati Airport came in around 30th. Well, what does that say about our long-term competitiveness and future?
And so when folks say, well, there was some money in the FAA to deal with these furloughs, well, yeah, the money is this pool of funds that are supposed to try to upgrade our airports so we don’t rank in the, you know, bottom of industrialized countries when it comes to our infrastructure.
And that’s what we’re doing. We’re using our seed corn short term. And the only reason we’re doing it is because right now we’ve got folks who are unwilling to make some simple changes to our tax code, for example, to close loopholes that aren’t adding to our competitiveness and aren’t helping middle class families.
So I’m — that’s a long way of answering your question, but the point is that there are common-sense solutions to our problems right now. I cannot force Republicans to embrace those common-sense solutions. I can urge them to. I can put pressure on them, I can, you know, rally the American people around those — you know, those common-sense solutions, but ultimately they themselves are going to have to say, we want to do the right thing.
And I think there are members certainly in the Senate right now and, I suspect, members in the House as well who understand that deep down, but they’re worried about their politics. It’s tough. Their base thinks that compromise with me is somehow a betrayal. They’re worried about primaries. And I understand all that. And we’re going to try to do everything we can to create a permission structure for them to be able to do what’s going to be best for the country. But it’s going to take some time.
When it come to b-ball, Hussein can throw more bricks than a mason!
Posted by: TexBork_2013 | April 30, 2013, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Obama who? After he was re-elected and no more campaigning to do he seems to have already faded into history. All my years I never saw a President spend his entire term campaigning. He must be the laziest President we ever had…a mere puppet of the left wing. I’m sure in few years we’ll hear the real story about how incompetent he was. Till then…America lost 8 years.
Posted by: Airborne_Ranger | April 30, 2013, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“”"”Republicans control the House of Representatives. In the Senate, this habit of requiring 60 votes for even the most modest piece of legislation has gummed up the works there. “”"”"” No it hasn’t Barack, that’s the requirement and what did you do with Obamacare, ie major legislation? You passed it against the will of the majority of Americans. So you blame the GOP for the House, but not the Democrats for the problems in the Senate. That pesky old requirement of 60 yah’s. Talk about causing division.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Most worthless president EVER.
Posted by: Callie | April 30, 2013, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Where are the Jobs Mr President? Oh wait I’m not in a union. Anything but the economy! let’s talk gay rights, let talk gun control, let’s talk immigration, let’s talk the poor middle class, you know the ones who keep getting taxed to pay for the liberal agenda and a host of other nonsense but what about the economy being in the craper Mr President? This man is no better than a common con man. This is the most divisive person to ever grace the White House! History will not be kind to this idiot!
Posted by: Censored_by_ABC | April 30, 2013, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Posted by: Gunner__59 | April 30, 2013, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
One of the smartest, most eloquent presidents we’ve ever had.
Posted by: Rick | April 30, 2013, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Posted by: Censored_by_ABC | April 30, 2013, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Over 6 million jobs created since Obama’s policies took effect. We all know what the Republicans grandstanding over the debt ceiling is going to do to the GDP and unemployment – just watch.
Posted by: Barb | April 30, 2013, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
let’s talk the poor middle class, you know the ones who keep getting taxed to pay for the liberal agenda
Posted by: Censored_by_ABC | April 30, 2013, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Bush lowered taxes and we ended up in huge debt and the largest economic collapse since the Great Depression. Not a good idea to run two major wars on debt to China – thank you Mr. Bush.
Posted by: Ron | April 30, 2013, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
The republicans are the ones who want these idiotic spending cuts.
The unemployment rate in Spain is 27%, 50% among young people. There are anarchist riots in the streets of Greece every day. Britain has the worst economy since the great depression.
All this is due to stupid “austerity” programs such as those on the republican agenda.
Germany and France are spending like hell and doing just fine.
Why can’t the republicans figure out that when you take money out of the economy, you lose? It’s not rocket science.
Thankfully the FED has enough sense to keep pumping money into the housing sector, which is at least stabilizing this economy.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“Obama: I’ve Still Got Juice” Jonathan, you are getting as bad about making up stories as Preezy. HE didn’t say, “I’ve still got juice.” You asked the question, “do you still have the juice…?” His ANSWER had more lies in it than your headline. Is the press so sloppy at reporting things because they are getting so used to being fed stories by the WH and obediantly printing them without doing any investigating or questioning on their own? YEP!
Posted by: wheresmymoney | April 30, 2013, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Ron | April 30, 2013, 2:44 pm —- The recession did not cause the collapse, the housing bubble did. Our debt to China is about the same as our debt to Japan, just over $1 trillion a piece. The largest economic collapse was clearly caused by our 2 party system and their endeavor to get low income families into the American Dream of owning a home. Both parties signed up to it and both parties watched the demise of those plans. We can’t shun the fact that too many families bought well beyond their means. You may want to do a little studying before oyou lay out such a blanket statement that really has no meaning, unes you simply want to make a partisan attack that is simply not true.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
And you’ll be making as many excuses for President Obama, as you are now for Bush? Excellent.
Posted by: Ron | April 30, 2013, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Barb | April 30, 2013, 2:40 pm —- Unemployment uder Obama has been dismal. Too many are simply quitting looking and dropping out of the unemployment figures. We lost millions of jobs because of the housing bubble and recession, so it stands to reason either they return, or we shrink as a nation. Obama is just passed the break even level on jobs. He will be hard pressed to improve the unemployment rate over the next few years. He will be lucky not to fall into a double dip before his term ends.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
The Republicans held the majority in Congress for basically 12 straight years – from 1994 through 2006 and the presidency for the last 6 of those years and more.
Plenty of time to build a robust, firmly-based Republican economy right? wrong, it collapsed like a house of cards.
It was during the Republicans’ time in power the sub-prime loans grew exponentially and the housing bubble swelled to bursting – the two things that sunk the economy.
In fact, the sub-prime industry and the housing bubble were already beginning to fall apart a year before the Democrats took Congress.
And still the Republicans try to pretend they’re don’t hold responsibility. Shameful.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Ron | April 30, 2013, 3:05 pm —- What excuses? We have 2 absolutely horrible parties that you all claim can fix the very same situation they got us in. That’s the definition of insanity. Wake up to our 2 party demise before it’s too late.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Barb | April 30, 2013, 2:40 pm —- Unemployment uder Obama has been dismal.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
All of the jobs lost came directly out of the Bush economic disaster – the largest economic collapse since the Great Depression.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
BO=Neville Chambers
Posted by: Joeb | April 30, 2013, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Hussein, “I’ve Still Got Juice” Bill Clinton, “Mmmm… So.. do.. I.. See?”
Posted by: TexBork_2013 | April 30, 2013, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Now quit the childish cutting and pastng and admit both parties have failed miserably.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Sorry, the Republican record is a disaster (especially with the neo-con influence) and I will not ignore that.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:08 pm wrote: “”"”It was during the Republicans’ time in power the sub-prime loans grew exponentially and the housing bubble swelled to bursting – “”"”"”"Do you even know what you mean by exponentially? Funny how you say that it was the Republicans time and the bubble burst, yet you take that as assigning blame to the GOP because it happened in “their time”. Quit looking at hings in a childish, partisan manner.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
The Republican Party is the party that defends and supports the interests of 2% of the population
Every stance they take benefits the rich and big corporations a puts the burden on the middle class and small business. If you analyse every piece of legislation they propose you’ll find that the wealthy benefit from it at a much greater proportion than 98% of Americans.
I admire the way rich republicans stick together, fight to maintain their standard of living and influence their representatives to do the same.
It’s the middle class republicans who create the problem. They sit around and wait for trickledown, won’t stand-up for their own interests and cause problems for the rest of their working class neighbors.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:36 pm — Nope, you will only ignore the Democrats disasters like the present. We all know your type Dan. Cut and paste, cut and paste, without a good coherent debate. We get it Dan, you don’t.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
must be lemon juice…. tart and acidic… no wonder I pucker up and wince anytime somebody mentions his name!!!
Posted by: THELOYALOPPOSITION | April 30, 2013, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 3:38 pm — You do realize the middle class will pay for Obamacare right? I have never been hired by a poor person which is fairly conclusive evidence that rich people do allow some trickle down. The Dem party line of “the GOP doesn’t care about the poor and elderly” only works on Democrats. Just like the stupid “war on women” BS. Now quit playing politics and wake up. Quit villifying those who are successful and maybe you can debate something worthy.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
I saw the disastrous results of the Republicans holding the majority in Congress for basically 12 straight years, and Bush the presidency for 6 of those years. I can see with my own eyes.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I’m a long time Obama supporter. I still prefer him to Mitt Romney. And I absolutely dislike his Republican critics in the House, especially. But Obama still disappoints me. He’s set as his goal, mediocrity. And he has attained it. The only time he has ever taken a “hard” stance was before the Iraq War, which was entirely rhetorical…. great, but rhetorical…. and largely compromised by every thing he has done in the interim. I have a hard time accepting someone who is compromising, even conservative, on Wall Street, the environment, GMOs, energy, education, health care, the drug war, taxes, SSN, Medicare, etc. The only area where he seems to be inflexible is in abortion rights even after live birth…. and here, he further to the left of anyone I have ever encountered in daily life.
Posted by: buzzo | April 30, 2013, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
tmferretti, Still trying to pit class against class through socialism? Class war-fare is the most common approach used by socialists. This class needs to join that class and fight the other class. I’ve read all that before in several books written about that exact same argument and the leaders in that all agree with you. They used the agenda long, long, ago and you are not the only one repeating the same thing, but you have to already know that.
Posted by: TexBork_2013 | April 30, 2013, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The only area where he seems to be inflexible is in abortion rights even after live birth….
Posted by: buzzo | April 30, 2013, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
I agree with lots of what you say, but this is wrong.
It was already against the law to kill a viable fetus in Illinois, so there was no need for Obama or anyone else to support a redundant (grandstanding) bill.
“Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus’ life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy . . .”
Posted by: Jeff | April 30, 2013, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
What a loser he has no juice after listening to him today. Quote when asked about his failures. “Maybe I should just pack up and go home. Golly.” This is so childlike and demonstrates why he is such a failed president. Time for him to pack up his toys and go home so we can get a real leader running things!
Posted by: LaTunna | April 30, 2013, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
buzzo | April 30, 2013, 3:49 pm wrote: “”"”"He’s set as his goal, mediocrity. And he has attained it. “”"”"”"” Oh really? Which goal, the one he said “I will cut the deficit in half by my 1st term, or, “”I have the answers to getting us out of these wars”, or, “I will turn this thing around or it will be a one term proposition”? There are many more, but that is what you consider attaining your MEDIOCRE goal? Sounds pathetic.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Welcome to the world of media propaganda and brainwashing, a world where the media is taking sides. This is not why the media was given the freedoms it was given, the media was supposed to be the watch dogs of government and keep them honest. But instead we get this one sided propaganda. Just another case of the lapdog media fawning over the president and feeding him softball questions! Enough with the divide and conquor tactics Mr President! If this man would just take one ounce of responsility for anything I might get an ounce of respect for him but that would never happen because he thinks he is always right! It’s got to be tough to be so perfect and have all the answers.
Posted by: Censored_by_ABC | April 30, 2013, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Dan | April 30, 2013, 3:47 pm —– Many economist saw Bush’s first 6 years as steady as far as the economy went. I was doing much better then than now. As I said Dan, you’re not very good at debates and you attack Bush’s best years while trying? Comical stuff Dan. Well then, let’s take a look at what happened when the Democrats took over Dan? Hmm, what major issues hit after Pelosi took over the purse strings? You’re not good at this at all Dan. Are they at least paying you to look like a rookie?
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Jeff,
Look at his “no comment” on the Kermit Gosnell case. He had no problem chiming in on the Skip Gates arrest, the Trayvon Martin murder, both of which seemed entirely appropriate to me. But to sit silent in the face of 2 decades of grim brutality…. both to women and to children…. it shows where his hear is. You don’t need but two seconds to say, “infanticide is wrong.” Nobody needs to “wait and see” on that. Cutting a baby’s head off is an easy call for most people to make.
Posted by: buzzo | April 30, 2013, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 3:38 pm —— WHO is the “friend” of the middle class???? —- The administration that shoves Obamacare down our throats (HIGHER premiums, less doctors, less choice to the middle class)? — The administration that instructs the EPA to punish energy producers with their “war on coal” (higher energy costs to the middle class)?—— The administration that put a moritorium on oil exploration (100,000 middle class oil employees laid off)? — The administration that wont authorize a pipeline (20,00 middle-class jobs not created)? –— The administration that places crazy health legislation on employers (who will then not hire the middle-class)? —– The administration that increases budgets, increasing the deficit to record numbers (making the middle-class dollar bill worth less)? — The administration that passes a FAILED $830 B stimulus plan (that wastes middle-class taxes and inflates the dollar)? —— The administration that passed 21 new taxes in Obamatax, and the $258 Billion in new taxes kicking in this year… the PENALTIES paid 50% by the middle class?? —– or the administration that bailed out GM union retirees while slashing the benefits of private-sector retirees who worked at Delphi… and CHEATED legally-entitled middle-class bond-holders of GM stock… devastating these middle class workers and their communities??? —– And you say Obama is FOR the middle class??????
Posted by: THELOYALOPPOSITION | April 30, 2013, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
“I saw the disastrous results of the Republicans holding the majority in Congress for basically 12 straight years, and Bush the presidency for 6 of those years. I can see with my own eyes.”
Obviously, all the smoke and flashing mirrors produced by obama and the rest of his motley crew of democrats have blinded you to what has occurred in this country since then.
Lol.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 3:38 pm ——– You probably work for one of those white-collar firms that financially exploits the middle-class… admit it!!!
Posted by: THELOYALOPPOSITION | April 30, 2013, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Many economist saw Bush’s first 6 years as steady as far as the economy went. I was doing much better then than now.
Posted by: Commonsenseparty | April 30, 2013, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Not really. In actual fact good American jobs were being offshored, factories were closing and the stock market was hugely overinflated. Housing prices were in a huge artificial bubble, banks and financial institutions were about to default and fail. So were many businesses. Millions of people were about to lose their homes. It was a house of cards.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
COMMONSENSE
You and I have been paying for 50,000, 000 people who have no health care coverage at all. A vast majority could pay something if they have too.
It honestly doesn’t bother me as much as having to pay higher taxes because some millionaire can use tax perks, loopholes and other incentives to avoid paying his fair share.
If republicans would look at the perks the wealthy enjoy instead of every little benefit the middle class gets, things would be a lot better.
Why are republicans against eliminating the incentives these multi-nationals get from out-sourcing? There’s no way you can tell me these republicans are defending the middle class (98% of Americans).
Republicans are so naive they forget that these multi-nationals have no allegiance to the United States. Their allegiance is to their bottom line.
Look at those people in Bangladesh working for 38 dollars a week, who do you think promotes and such practices? They’d have us all working for 38 dollars a week if the republicans let them
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Imagine how the right wingers would be attacking Obama if the 33 had been killed on his shift, or the 99. Hypocrisy.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
That press conference made him look weak and on the defensive. You can tell watching his face he doesn’t like to be questioned. He got grilled on Syria pretty good. Anyone else wondering where Syria got its chemical weapons? Can you say I R A Q? As in what happened to Iraq’s WMD’s?
His answers? “Gee, maybe I should just pack up and go home”
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Bane | April 30, 2013, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
We don’t have time for the Distraction Game. Lol.
Try to stick with the here and now.
4 dead in Benghazi and o (that would be the “Transparent One” to you) don’t give a dam.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
4 dead in Benghazi and o (that would be the “Transparent One” to you) don’t give a dam.
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Imagine how the right wingers would be attacking Obama if the 33 had been killed on his shift, or the 99.
Double standard.
Posted by: Dan | April 30, 2013, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
CEELEEELEE
It might surprise you to know that the vast majority of Americans don’t give a damn about the republican political circuses that are going on about Fast and Furious, Benghazi and this the Marathon bombing.
Instead of promoting these political sideshows the republicans need to talk about JOBS
The republicans think they can gain votes by promoting speculation and innuendos. That’s why they lost the last election and are doomed to extinction in 2014.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Dan, when I left this blog about 2 months ago, you were cutting and pasting the same stuff. Lol.
How about you post some stuff about the Watergate cover-up? Let’s compare Nixon’s Watergate to Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Pigford, executive orders passed in the middle of the night, obamacare forced on taxpayers, illegal somehow becoming legal?? WT… and BTW, what the hell happened to the rest of that Stimulus money and those shovel ready jobs?
Lol.
Do you work for the Ministry of Dis-information??? F-gbow, Media Mutters, that big guy in the baseball hat, trying to look poor but is actually a 1%-er???
Never mind – I will just get some more cut and paste from you and after being on this blog these many years, I have already seen them countless times. Sadly for you, they just are not that convincing.
Remember Benghazi!!!
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Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Looks like the Oblamers are being shown the door!
Posted by: Tim C | April 30, 2013, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
You need to climb down off of that chandelier. There are plenty of us that care, they just are not in your group of friends. Then again, everytime the subject comes up on these blogs, you guys are all over it. All three of you with your other ah, personas.
Lol.
I am going out to dinner. You stay here and chew the fat with somebody else because you don’t have anything for me except your usual delusional bs.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
The republicans are trying to use the deaths of Americans to advance their political agenda; it’s obvious from the republican posts on this blog.
Sorry, the American people aren’t buying what the republicans are selling. Every time a republican gets on TV and speculates about evidence, jumps to conclusions about motives and generally makes an ass of himself, the people are wondering how he’s found the time to do this when the economy is slow and people want JOBS.
It also shows a lack of charactor and a loss of moral direction.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
I know what you mean, TMFERRETI. I was strongly reminded of that when I heard obama say the following the other day –
As long as we’ve got to fight to make sure women have access to quality, affordable health care, and as long as we’ve got to fight to protect a woman’s right to make her own choices about her own health, I want you to know that you’ve also got a president who’s going to be right there with you, fighting every step of the way. Thank you, Planned Parenthood. God bless you.”
Outrageous, huh???
Ok, I am outta here, for now…
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
CEELEELEEE
Sounded like a pretty good statement to me. Are you saying women don’t want the things the President mentioned? I know republicans don’t.
Here’s a hint, if you want to be successful in the next elections, get a message. Stop the negativity and “do nothingness” People equate you republicans the same way they view only bad news on television, they get tired of it.
Mitt lost because he had no message or vision. He never had anything positive to say. If your learning curve is not flat you need to learn from his experience.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
The republicans are like those people you see around the office. Always slamming everyone else’s ideas but never having any of their own.
And, just like in those offices the republicans are ignored by the American people.
Posted by: tmferretti | April 30, 2013, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
If Obama’s willing to pack up and go home, I’d be happy to help load the trailer.
Posted by: Don | April 30, 2013, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
“ceeleelee” know it’s not fair to compare President Obama to Republican presidents, because the Republican presidents come out so poorly.
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Dan – your name is Janna now???
The games people play. Lol.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Third try…
Moderator -
Nothing wrong with my statement, so there is no need to censor it.
tmferretti – ####
About the other, you are right – no way can a Republican get 120% of the vote in certain areas like a Democrat can, especially if it is in a place that does not require a voter’s id. I will cede you that point.
Lol.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
ABC Moderator -
Since when do you censor words written by others?
I referenced a person and issue that is currently in the news. Are we now being subjected to just the things ABC wants to cover? There was nothing inflammatory or derogatory in my statement – just a response to another blogger.As an aside, you have brought more notice to the issue than if you had just left the statement alone. I am sure that the people on this blog have followed the disappearing acts of my posts and are wondering just what in the heck is going on here. I am thinking you might want to rethink your policy on pulling posts because you don’t like the viewpoint presented, especially since no comment posting rules (as presented by your site) were broken.
I am also thinking IF this gets posted, it will be soon “disappeared” like the others.
Chilling…
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Sure, we”ll remember Benghazi. As long as you’re fair enough to remember the record of the Republican presidents.
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Looks to me like Obama has kept our embassies safer than either Bush or Reagan by a long shot.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I think you need to worry about the mess THIS president has gotten us into and just what “friends” he are supporting. Try to focus on what is happening NOW. You had your chance to belly-ache and do whatever you wanted to do about those previous presidents when they were in office. Too late to whine to me or anyone else, now.
BTW, I didn’t vote for any of the above – though I would gladly take Bush or Reagan (if he was alive) over obama in a heartbeat, so your bleating about them to me is pointless.
Lol.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Haven’t forgot Benghazi – or the records of the Republican presidents.
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Looks to me like Obama has kept our embassies safer than either Republican president by a long shot.
You’ll understand once you learn how to count. For instance the number of embassies attacked, the number of incidents and the numbers of bodies.
They’re called real-world facts.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
He has???
Well, then, maybe obama and his administration will finally let us hear what really happened in Benghazi. Right now, survivors and witnesses of that attack have been threatened with dire consequences if they give their versions of what really happened that fateful night. Now, why is that? You DO remember that night, the one when obama and his SOS slept thru the 3am call? or did they just sit there and watch it all go down without lifting a finger to help? I don’t know, the stories keep changing…
Why don’t you put your powerful sleuthing skills to the test and see if you can find out which is the real story – not the one that your script writer at Media Mu(a)tters told you to push? Get back to us when you get some real facts, we’ll be waiting.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
He has???
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Yes he has.
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Obama has kept our embassies safer than either Republican president by a long shot.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Tell that to his now deceased ambassador.
Next, you will be saying the core of Al-queda is 1) on its heels 2) on the run and 3) its’ core has been deciminated…
After the bombing in Boston, despite all the intelligence we had on those guys, Americans feel safer than ever.
Yeah, right…
Lol.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
You bias is showing.
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
Obama has kept our embassies safer than either Republican president by a long shot.
Perhaps you should learn to read, research – and count.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
In other words, you have nothing, nada, zilch, zero, nil…
Just like your leader.
Lol.
Goodnite, JannaDan.
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Aw, gee!
You made a funny!!! :D
ROFL!!!
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
janna wrote:”You’ll dream of the truth tonight – actual facts.”
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Since you know so much about the “actual facts”, see if you can tell us who gave the order for security resources to “stand down”.
Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | April 30, 2013, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
jannabobronbillyfred wrote:”Looks like it was Reagan and Bush who gave the orders to ‘stand down’.”
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Reagan and Bush said what they meant and backed it up. Exactly how far was empty chair oBama willing to go in protecting Americans in Benghazi? Apparently not very far at all when security resources were ordered to stand down.
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oBama draws a red line in the sand and dares his “enemies” to cross it. umm… errr… I double-dog dare you to do it again…. huh… ok… umm…. errr…. I triple-dog dare you this time!
Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | April 30, 2013, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Tell that to the SEALS and others who was waiting for help, any help, from our Government during the siege in Benghazi.
You forgot to mention those American embassies that have had the American flag burned in front of them during obama’s tenure. Also, are the black flag of Islam still being flown over the American embasssies in Benghazi and Tunisia?
Looks like obama ran out of juice right about when those things were happening.
We wonder why?
Remember Benghazi!.
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | April 30, 2013, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Given the facts of the 92 killed at embassies under Reagan and 33 killed at embassies under Bush, it looks like it was Reagan and Bush gave the orders to ‘stand down’.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Exactly, once again, obama is bringing up the rear – or as it is more commonly known, leadiing from behind and obviously, talking from his behind.
Just a lot of hot air, signifying nothing.
Forward!
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 10:17 pm
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Repeating the same unrelated “facts” over and over and over ad nauseum is the biggest sign that you have nothing substantive to offer. Another oBama loser.
Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | April 30, 2013, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Sorry if you guys can’t deal with reality. Obama has done a far better job than Reagan or Bush or protecting our embassies. It’s just straight ahead facts. 92 killed at embassies under Reagan and 33 killed at embassies under Bush, 4 under Obama.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
How many did Fast and Furious kill?
You know, the operation where obama’s ATF lost track of more than 1,000 firearms, and some guns weren’t recovered until they turned up at crime scenes, both in Mexico and, as the Terry case illustrated, the United States. How many innocent Mexicans and Americans were really taken out by those guns winding up in the wrong hands?
And why is the obama administration trying to suppress and bury this story?
Remember Benghazi!
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
It also doesn’t matter that you’ve tried to change the topic to get away from the truth. Obama has done a far better job than Reagan or Bush or protecting our embassies. It’s just straight ahead facts. 92 killed at embassies under Reagan and 33 killed at embassies under Bush, 4 under Obama.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
This blog is about obama – not Bush and Reagan. But every blog you appear on, you bring those names up. I am talking about obama.
Posted by: ceeleelee | April 30, 2013, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
It’s understandable you don’t want Obama to be compared against Republican presidents – because the Republican presidents come out looking so poorly and Obama comes out so favorably. 92 killed at embassies under Reagan and 33 killed at embassies under Bush, 4 under Obama.
Posted by: Janna | April 30, 2013, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
President Obama’s comments during the news conference today were quite amusing. Saying he is not aware of any attempts to impede testimony about Benghazi is like Hitler promising to investigate rumors about concentration camps. The last thing in the world that Obama wants is for Benghazi survivors to testify about what really happened in Benghazi. This is why these survivors have been held like political prisoners all these months. I believe that when all is said and done, we will find out that the brave Americans in Benghazi were forsaken and sacrificed for political reasons. I believe that the two former Navy Seals will be honored by their country for heroic valor because they would not stand down and watch their associates be slaughtered. And I believe that major media outlets like ABC will be condemned for their complete lack of integrity. This looks to be a repeat performance of Watergate, only much worse.
Remember Benghazi!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Robert Fitzgerald | May 1, 2013, 1:10 am 1:10 am
I have problem of your comments, here are the concerns:
1) You say you believe in God yet, you go against God (by degradation) who allowed Obama to become President?
2) You don’t want background checks on guns yet, you want to identify everyone that votes.
3) You say you are in support of “Pro-Life” yet, you only have 2 children…(Anti-conception is happening somewhere, shape or form).
4) You say you believe in the Constitution yet, how is it that you ignore the part of “All men are created equal”?
5) How is it that you say you hate Gays yet, God loves everyone…and you wonder why you are not being blessed?
6) How is it that you hate gays, yet all of the Rapes, Molestations and Sexual Assaults are committed by “straight men and women”?
Last, how is it that the freedom of a few can outweigh the safety of the many?
Posted by: C DA TRUTH | May 1, 2013, 8:08 am 8:08 am
“You say you are in support of “Pro-Life” yet, you only have 2 children”
I don’t have two children, I have 4. I don’t want voter ID, but I do want background checks. I also support gay marriage.
The pro-abort movement has played a real game with voters…. trying to convince everyone that being opposed to late term abortions is religious zealotry. They are just as bad as the NRA when it comes to advocacy for their industry.
Posted by: buzzo | May 1, 2013, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm