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	<title>Comments on: Outside Washington, Gun Debate Rolls On</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Gray</title>
		<link>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/outside-washington-gun-debate-rolls-on/#comment-32270341</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 00:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I object to in the gun control debate is the total ignorance of the writers who perpetuate the lies about the current state of the laws.

1.  No firearms can be sold directly to an individual over the internet.  The firearm is sold to a local gun dealer who processes the sale by completing any background checks and the form 4473 record of transfer.

2.  Sales by dealers at a gun show comply with the same laws as if the sale was completed at the dealers place of business.  Private sales comply with the federal and state rules for private sales.

3.  Writers continue to promote the myth that guns flow from state with low regulations to state which are highly regulated.  The Department of Justice&#039;s own white paper Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies, by Greg Ridgeway, Ph.D. Refutes this when he said. &quot;contrary to the conventional wisdom that crime guns were being trafficked across state borders from places with less stringent regulations, such as Arizona and Nevada, we found that a majority of the guns used in crimes were purchased in Los Angeles County.”  Most firearms used in crime are acquired through straw purchasers 47% or stolen 26%

4.  Assault Weapons per the Study &quot;Assault weapons are not a major contributor to gun crime.&quot;  Per the FBI long guns which include Assault Weapons account for 3% of all murders.  DOJ reports that they are used in between 2% and 8% of all crimes.  A ban even combined with an agressive buy back program or confiscation would not have an impact on crime.

In short the Department  of Justice has concluded that all of the proposed laws will have NO IMPACT on murders and crime in the US.

What would have an impact would for President Obama to direct his Attorney General to order his US Attorneys to enforce existing gun laws.  The US Attorney for the District including Chicago, IL did not prosecute a SINGLE federal firearms violation in 2012.

Since Straw purchasers are the single largest source of guns used in criminal activity that would be the priority for enforcement.  Yet people like Mark Kelly, Gabbie Giffords astronaut husband turned anti gun advocate, can publicly admit that he attempted to straw purchase two of the same weapons which he is lobbying to ban.  He like 99% of the people who lie on their 4473 are not prosecuted.  If Kelly had been prosecuted he faced up to 20 years (10 years for each count) in prison and loss of his Military retirement and benefits.

In short the existing laws have teeth.  The problem prosecution of these crime is nonexistent.  In short they are not career enhancing for the Federal Prosecutors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I object to in the gun control debate is the total ignorance of the writers who perpetuate the lies about the current state of the laws.</p>
<p>1.  No firearms can be sold directly to an individual over the internet.  The firearm is sold to a local gun dealer who processes the sale by completing any background checks and the form 4473 record of transfer.</p>
<p>2.  Sales by dealers at a gun show comply with the same laws as if the sale was completed at the dealers place of business.  Private sales comply with the federal and state rules for private sales.</p>
<p>3.  Writers continue to promote the myth that guns flow from state with low regulations to state which are highly regulated.  The Department of Justice&#8217;s own white paper Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies, by Greg Ridgeway, Ph.D. Refutes this when he said. &#8220;contrary to the conventional wisdom that crime guns were being trafficked across state borders from places with less stringent regulations, such as Arizona and Nevada, we found that a majority of the guns used in crimes were purchased in Los Angeles County.”  Most firearms used in crime are acquired through straw purchasers 47% or stolen 26%</p>
<p>4.  Assault Weapons per the Study &#8220;Assault weapons are not a major contributor to gun crime.&#8221;  Per the FBI long guns which include Assault Weapons account for 3% of all murders.  DOJ reports that they are used in between 2% and 8% of all crimes.  A ban even combined with an agressive buy back program or confiscation would not have an impact on crime.</p>
<p>In short the Department  of Justice has concluded that all of the proposed laws will have NO IMPACT on murders and crime in the US.</p>
<p>What would have an impact would for President Obama to direct his Attorney General to order his US Attorneys to enforce existing gun laws.  The US Attorney for the District including Chicago, IL did not prosecute a SINGLE federal firearms violation in 2012.</p>
<p>Since Straw purchasers are the single largest source of guns used in criminal activity that would be the priority for enforcement.  Yet people like Mark Kelly, Gabbie Giffords astronaut husband turned anti gun advocate, can publicly admit that he attempted to straw purchase two of the same weapons which he is lobbying to ban.  He like 99% of the people who lie on their 4473 are not prosecuted.  If Kelly had been prosecuted he faced up to 20 years (10 years for each count) in prison and loss of his Military retirement and benefits.</p>
<p>In short the existing laws have teeth.  The problem prosecution of these crime is nonexistent.  In short they are not career enhancing for the Federal Prosecutors.</p>
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		<title>By: Gun Owner</title>
		<link>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/outside-washington-gun-debate-rolls-on/#comment-32267011</link>
		<dc:creator>Gun Owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These idiots draw on heart strings to a tragedy but the facts are that these gun laws won&#039;t stop anything.  You have laws that say drinking and driving are illegal yet thousand are killed yearly by drunk drivers.  You have laws preventing illegal immigration yet since 1986 there are some 30 million illegals here in the US.  How have these laws worked for the Americans???  Get the Pictures???

Murders by knives, explosives, poisons, automobiles and so on are readilly available alternatives as are stealing guns or buying from Mexico.  You know the illegal guns that OBama and Holder let the criminals steal!!!!!!!!  This is a world that follows psychological studies showing what happens to a population of rats as the population increases.  We are those rats and the world is following their lead and becoming more violent and the cases of untreated mental illness on the rise.  The government would rather blame a gun than their lack of response to treating mental illness.  In the words of the Dumbocraps,  SHAME!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These idiots draw on heart strings to a tragedy but the facts are that these gun laws won&#8217;t stop anything.  You have laws that say drinking and driving are illegal yet thousand are killed yearly by drunk drivers.  You have laws preventing illegal immigration yet since 1986 there are some 30 million illegals here in the US.  How have these laws worked for the Americans???  Get the Pictures???</p>
<p>Murders by knives, explosives, poisons, automobiles and so on are readilly available alternatives as are stealing guns or buying from Mexico.  You know the illegal guns that OBama and Holder let the criminals steal!!!!!!!!  This is a world that follows psychological studies showing what happens to a population of rats as the population increases.  We are those rats and the world is following their lead and becoming more violent and the cases of untreated mental illness on the rise.  The government would rather blame a gun than their lack of response to treating mental illness.  In the words of the Dumbocraps,  SHAME!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Commonsenseparty</title>
		<link>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/outside-washington-gun-debate-rolls-on/#comment-32265834</link>
		<dc:creator>Commonsenseparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 17:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ilfarmer &#124; May 1, 2013, 1:15 pm ---- The &quot;Feel Good&quot; legislation has been defeated.  We can point out what we want about how it would not have made any difference in Sandy Hook, but progressives don&#039;t care.  If they could rid the USA of guns, they would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ilfarmer | May 1, 2013, 1:15 pm &#8212;- The &#8220;Feel Good&#8221; legislation has been defeated.  We can point out what we want about how it would not have made any difference in Sandy Hook, but progressives don&#8217;t care.  If they could rid the USA of guns, they would.</p>
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		<title>By: Commonsenseparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commonsenseparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmferretti &#124; May 1, 2013, 12:55 pm ---- Have you done some reading about their gun laws?  Do you think those laws have any bearing on this list?  Do you know what they mean by &quot;Economic Freedom&quot;?  
1. Hong Kong
2. Singapore
3. Australia
4. New Zealand
5. Switzerland
6. Canada
7. Chile
8. Mauritius
9. Denmark
10. United States</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmferretti | May 1, 2013, 12:55 pm &#8212;- Have you done some reading about their gun laws?  Do you think those laws have any bearing on this list?  Do you know what they mean by &#8220;Economic Freedom&#8221;?<br />
1. Hong Kong<br />
2. Singapore<br />
3. Australia<br />
4. New Zealand<br />
5. Switzerland<br />
6. Canada<br />
7. Chile<br />
8. Mauritius<br />
9. Denmark<br />
10. United States</p>
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		<title>By: ilfarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilfarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a gun owner and second amendment supporter.  I don&#039;t see background checks as an invasion of my rights.  I do oppose &#039;feel good&#039; legislation that does nothing to solve the problem.  The Sandy Hook gun was a legally owned gun.  It&#039;s owner would or perhaps did pass the background checks.  Governor Chrisite from NJ has proposed legislation to ban a specific .50 cal rifle.  I read on these boards from the pro gun control side what a major step that was.  I&#039;d like for one of those people that really understands what that rifle is to explain how that legislation would have any effect on crime.  Depending on it&#039;s configuration it&#039;s up to 5 feet long and can way upwards of 60 pounds.  It would be nearly impossible to use it for the commission of a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a gun owner and second amendment supporter.  I don&#8217;t see background checks as an invasion of my rights.  I do oppose &#8216;feel good&#8217; legislation that does nothing to solve the problem.  The Sandy Hook gun was a legally owned gun.  It&#8217;s owner would or perhaps did pass the background checks.  Governor Chrisite from NJ has proposed legislation to ban a specific .50 cal rifle.  I read on these boards from the pro gun control side what a major step that was.  I&#8217;d like for one of those people that really understands what that rifle is to explain how that legislation would have any effect on crime.  Depending on it&#8217;s configuration it&#8217;s up to 5 feet long and can way upwards of 60 pounds.  It would be nearly impossible to use it for the commission of a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: PeteLaRo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeteLaRo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 17:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pond Scum? Is that what they are calling Patriots now? Is that what they would call the founding fathers of our country? Mothers against Guns is a joke. They claim to represent all mothers, well here&#039;s a news flash for you: MY mother taught me to hunt and shoot along with my father and she still owns three guns. I will not stand by while liberal progressive crybabies try to shove gun control down our throats again. As an NRA member I will be voting against Toomey in the primary and for a candidate that doesn&#039;t &quot;compromise&quot; our rights. We&#039;ve had six gun control bills since the 1930&#039;s and we have &quot;compromised&quot; enough. They lost, get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pond Scum? Is that what they are calling Patriots now? Is that what they would call the founding fathers of our country? Mothers against Guns is a joke. They claim to represent all mothers, well here&#8217;s a news flash for you: MY mother taught me to hunt and shoot along with my father and she still owns three guns. I will not stand by while liberal progressive crybabies try to shove gun control down our throats again. As an NRA member I will be voting against Toomey in the primary and for a candidate that doesn&#8217;t &#8220;compromise&#8221; our rights. We&#8217;ve had six gun control bills since the 1930&#8242;s and we have &#8220;compromised&#8221; enough. They lost, get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: tmferretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmferretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COMMONSENSE

No, I was responding to your post

&quot;So you want an accurate reflection of the country? Go to ANY gun shop or counter and that should ne enough to convinve you.&quot;

It seems these other countries can have common sense gun laws and are not extreme right or left wing dictatorships.  Maybe we can learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMMONSENSE</p>
<p>No, I was responding to your post</p>
<p>&#8220;So you want an accurate reflection of the country? Go to ANY gun shop or counter and that should ne enough to convinve you.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems these other countries can have common sense gun laws and are not extreme right or left wing dictatorships.  Maybe we can learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunner__59</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunner__59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmferretti -- You lost the gun debate, move-on or pick another topic where you may have more success.  Oh, I know!!  The morning after pill!!  Your 15 year old daughter can now get knocked up 3 times a week and not worry about it!!!  Best yet, you as a parent will never know about it because she can now obtain it OTC, no questions asked.  Hurray for progressive America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmferretti &#8212; You lost the gun debate, move-on or pick another topic where you may have more success.  Oh, I know!!  The morning after pill!!  Your 15 year old daughter can now get knocked up 3 times a week and not worry about it!!!  Best yet, you as a parent will never know about it because she can now obtain it OTC, no questions asked.  Hurray for progressive America!</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 16:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only reason it is in the news is because Obama has instructed his news media to keep it up... but not a word about the abortion doctors trial and the Benghazi survivors being threatened if they testify to the truth...wow, how low can the news media go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only reason it is in the news is because Obama has instructed his news media to keep it up&#8230; but not a word about the abortion doctors trial and the Benghazi survivors being threatened if they testify to the truth&#8230;wow, how low can the news media go?</p>
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		<title>By: Commonsenseparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commonsenseparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmferretti &#124; May 1, 2013, 12:19 pm ---- Let me get this straight, you are equating gun control with economic freedom?  Are you serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmferretti | May 1, 2013, 12:19 pm &#8212;- Let me get this straight, you are equating gun control with economic freedom?  Are you serious?</p>
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