Sens. McCain, Graham Say New Immigration Law Would Hinder Terrorism

i wish that someone would stuff a rag in grahams mouth. how can one person be an expert in everything being discussed

They say we have a labor shortage.

“Every part of the bill was written as though America is facing a severe labor shortage crisis. The Senate Judiciary Hearing on Monday featured one industry spokesperson after another who testified that Americans from high-school drop outs to the laid off engineer were either too lazy or too uneducated to fill U.S. labor needs at the wages being offered. ” Jeremy Beck

McCain and Romney are the reason why the republicrats lost… We need somebody like Ted Cruz.

Of course it would. Its the only intelligent and logical way to think. Problems with immigration will never cease to exist but this is a good way to give the millions or families here, many of them born here… a chance at joining society. And…. @ the same time fixing an abysmal, unthinkable problem of “what to do with these people”. That is the only way to go.

Who are they trying to lie to the public or themselves.

Note to Senators: The Boston terrorists were NOT living in the shadows. In fact, they were known to our immigration courts, they went through the system, they were legal in the USA. Thay were in the database, the same database you want to put 11 million illegals into. How is that going to make us safer? We deserve to know. Besides, on day one of your plan, won’t the 11 million be able to travel outside the USA? How do you find out what 11 million will be doing once they travel outside the USA? Common sense says this bill needs more discussion.

You know whats even safer?
Kicking out the illegals and protecting the border.

McCain and his sister Graham are just cheap labor Republicans paying back their campaign contributors.

Our country will be no safer simply because of this bill, it won’t be safe until our borders are secured and we get a handle on exactly who and how many are inside our borders without permission and go agency by agency to find out why they wren’t tracking students, visitors and the ones who just snuck in over our oh so porous borders. Once McCain and his pals can figure this out, then they can vote on it. I won’t hold my breath. THey are going to pass it, unfortunately – and it will cost us citizens a lot, because we already are having trouble finding any kind of jobs. We already can;t find affordable housing, and frankly, I’m tired of having everything in Spanish as well as English – I may be bilingual, but I speak english.

who has been lying to them?????? Oh no one, they are lying to us

Well it seems this AMNESTY bill will fix all of our problems……. are these guys crazy. Email your Senators and tell them to just enforce the immigration laws we have now. If the illegals can’t work they will leave. I call Social Security and I have to press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish…. give me a break. This is America…. at least speak the damn language.

We think of this as a bunch of Mexicans, but there is an area of Detroit that has the largest concentration of Arabs in our country with many who will or could be allowed to be citizens. This would change the voting numbers, for sure

requiring all employers to use e-verify.

Posted by: John | April 26, 2013, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

That is part of the proposed legislation.

I suggest instead of what you offer to do this instead: Bring all the military to the U.S. to stand guard at the borders, schools, and events. This way, most can work and be home in the evenings with their loved ones. Close immigration arriving to the U.S. for 1 year so you can get the proper papers organized to everyone already here and prepare for ones on the list to arrive. Only have welfare and foodstamps available for individuals for 3 months maximum. Temporary help only. Forever is way too much and unhealthy. America can still be he land of the free and known to help others, but we must do it in moderation!!!

McCain blew up his own ship and killed a lot of men. McCain was only a pilot because his daddy got him everything. Why would I listen to this traitor.

BUT DONT WORRY AMERICA ABC NEWS WILL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY

Sure it will. It will also cure cancer, end world hunger, and discover oil on Mars.

When are you idiots going to quit voting for “Turkey Neck McCain?” He’s absolutely useless!

It won’t cost anything to deport 11 million illegals…. Cut off their welfare and freebies, and then throw employers in jail who hire them. Illegals will leave on their own if there are no jobs and no freebies.

Posted by: NO-Illegals | April 26, 2013, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

No they won’t. There will be illegal hires as there have been for years. There will be forged documents. There will be crimes committed for money or food. We’re talking 11 million people and you’re talking massive chaos and crime.

You’re not thinking clearly.

McCain is an idiot. We already have more than enough laws what we don’t have is enforcement of the laws we have. McCain is over the hill and should gracefully fade away. He’s had a nice run but it is over. Quit before you embarrass yourself further McCain and do more damage to the country.

The urgency of passing some “comprehensive immigration reform” bill is nonsense. If anything is to be done regarding immigration, I would make absolutely sure the steps are done piece meal.

First, I would demand that EVERYTHING possible be done to protect out borders, and stem the flow of illegals coming here. PROVE that you are truly willing to do THAT, and that you are not simply playing lip-service to the people of America, in an attempt to get them behind you on immigration reform.

All of America knows you don’t enforce the current laws. So, why should be trust you to enforce an entirely NEW set of laws (the bill proposed is 870+ pages in length)? We KNOW why you don’t enforce the current laws – the same reason you likely won’t seal the borders, or enforce new laws, if your bill is passed: the boot-licking, behind-kissing politicians in Washington are pandering for the Latino / Hispanic vote. You know it, I know it, EVERYONE knows it. And we all know that enforcing our immigration laws is very unpopular with those you are pandering too.

What? You say you are not pandering? Then prove it. The FIRST thing – and you can do it right now, as everyone in the White House, Congress, and America can agree: seal our borders. Do THAT, then maybe we will trust you to do what you insist is the “right thing for America”.

At the same time you seal the borders, pass a law enforcing that employers hire only citizens of the United States, or those already with a work visa. All the employers I ever worked for asked me to prove I was a U.S. citizen, so why don’t ALL employers? As the matter of fact, require employers to RE-CERTIFY those already in their employment to prove they are U.S. citizens. You will solve several issues with this, and again, it should be something EVERYONE can agree upon: (1) it prevents illegals from getting employment here, (2) it prevents employers from hiring illegals for a pittance of wages, and absuing them, (3) it will purge illegals already working at companies, and expose them as illegals, and (4) it will TRULY be a deterrent to other illegals wanting to come here, knowing they will NOT be able to earn a living.

Employers found to be in violation of the law should have the CEO / president / management sent to prison for up to 5 years, depending upon the severity of the violation. If THIS one step was implemented, I’ll bet you that 99.9% of ALL hiring of illegals would stop.

THE ABOVE TWO STEPS SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED BEFORE ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE CONSIDERED! IF THESE SIMPLE STEPS CANNOT – OR RATHER WILL NOT BE TAKEN – I WOULD NOT TRUST CONGRESS TO IMPLEMENT ANY CHANGES. The above is as basic as it gets, and would prove Congress is serious about stopping illegal immigration and hiring.

Before ANY “path to citizenship” be considered, it needs to thought through. First, to be eligible, ALL illegals MUST return to their country of origin, checking out on the way out. We would then be able to do a background check on these people, if they indicate they intend to retun, and apply to re-enter the United States. If they come back, and they are in the system (because the checked out when they left), they should be able to apply to re-enter the U.S., providing they passed a background check. Those with criminal records, or who fail a background check, should NOT be allowed to return. Give illegals one year to leave, checking out as they do so.

For anyone found in the country illegally AFTER the deadline of one year (provided to check out, and return home), the penalty should be automatic deportation, with no chance to EVER come back and apply for re-entry into the U.S. That means no visiting, no work visas, and definitely, no citizenship.

This ain’t rocket science. And since the wusses in Washington are NOT talking these kinds of measures FIRST, I do not trust that they will do anything that might anger the very people they are trying to pander to: Latinos / Hispanics.

My guess is that if we allow Congress to simply implement the entire new bill they are pushing, all the enforcement steps, and things that are to the dislike of Latinos / Hispanics will NOT be enforced – EVER. And of course the work visas, giving driver’s licenses, fast tracking citizenship, etc. – all the stuff Latinos and Hispanics want – those would be implemented at the speed of light.

Congress KNOWS the predictions for demographics in the U.S. show that within 20 years, Latinos and Hispanics will be in the majority of our population. THIS is why the polticians in Washington are falling all over themselves to please these people (and ignore you and me). The majority of Congress – especially the Gang of Eight, who worked on this bill in secrecy for months on end – are traitors to America, and care only about one thing: getting the Latino/Hispanic vote, to retain power.

McCain & Graham are one voice…what’s up with that? It’s as if they have to agree on everything. Strange behavior for adults. BTW, these two would probably support a police state.

“Immigration reform would make terrorism more difficult, not easier, according to two Republican senators who helped draft the Senate bill under consideration.” – ABC News

How can that be true when they are going to let the illegals who are terrorists stay in the US?

How can that be true when they are going to let the illegals who are terrorists stay in the US?

Posted by: Noz | April 27, 2013, 11:05 am 11:05 am

What are the provisions in the current bill being put forward?

BEST SOLUTION: “A.M.E.R.I.C.A.” FIRST POLICY (Piecemeal approach

A – Actual Border Security (not just plans/ promises/prospective measures – bring back our soldiers to help ICE execute this)

M – Mandatory E-Verify (immediate implementation)

E – Ensure that ‘Taxpayer- funded’ Benefits such as public education, healthcare, welfare, housing, food stamps, etc. are for U.S. citizens and legal residents only

R – Robust STEM Educational Program for American Youth (create a national academic program through a joint effort of the gov’t and tech industry that will hone our own youth so we will be self-sustainable with high-skilled workers in the future – this is what the likes of
Zuchenberg should be focusing on instead of lobbying for this bill)

I – Interior Enforcement (effective entry-exit system)

C- Cut Job Outsourcing (impose higher taxes for companies that ship our jobs overseas)

A – Abolition of Anchor Baby and Chain Migration Provisions

* If you want to reach out to LEGAL MINORITIES like me, improve the ECONOMY and give us more job opportunities (not to those who are here illegally). If the wages in low-skilled jobs are not depressed by the undocumented, AMERICANS will take them rather than go jobless.

Godbless America!

Posted by: Noz | April 27, 2013, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

What are the provisions in the current bill being put forward?

It’s time to remove these fools from the task and replace them with competent individuals who are capable of putting the people of this great nation first, not illegal aliens or themselves!

Posted by: Bob | April 27, 2013, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

What are the provisions in the current bill being put forward?

Sen. Lindsey Graham said, “we can’t shut America off”. But the immigrants with terrorist purposes are the ones who are shutting America off to their Mafia. It is very clear that the current outdated system needs the updating reform to meet the demand for today’s real national security. However, the new National Visas and Passports Computer-Cop can help, but it is up to the well-trained personnel to follow up promptly on the computer’s disclosures of potential terrorists by sending them back without delay to where they came from. Simply registering immigrants do not solve the real issue of security for America. The Boston bombers were in the terrorists list data base, yet no one took the right measures to get them back to where they came from before they strike.

You MUST NEVER forget what Bush did to our country. You need to tell your great grandchildren about them trying to destroy our country for the benefit of big business lobbyist. Tell them about the jobs being sent overseas. Tell them about how they destroyed our housing industry, and almost getting our auto industry. And even warning Obama not to help them. Tell them about the immigrants being invited here as they sent the jobs we once had overseas. Tell them how this congress voted in the last 4 years against ENDING tax breaks for companies moving overseas, and then voted against GIVING tax breaks to those companies to move back to the US. Tell them how they allowed our 401Ks to be stolen. Tell them about the million dollar bonuses the CEO’s got for sending these jobs overseas, as our country went into their planned Great Recession. Actually, we were supposed to have went into another Great Depression. This must be keep alive, just like the Holocaust. When you forget things like this, you leave the opportunity for them to happen.

LOL…now why would John McCain be ‘befuddled’ by the crap being fearmongered and distorted out in the right wing echo chamber world of his PARTY’S BASE? He knows how “TOXIC” and ignorant they are. LOL…LOL