Comments on: Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/ The latest Politics news and blog posts from ABC News contributors and bloggers including Jake Tapper, George Stephanopoulos and more. Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387491 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 18:44:36 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387491 good night ALL good night ALL

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By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387333 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 17:59:24 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387333 The LoyalOpposition ----Many of George W. Bush’s nominees have been significant donors to his election campaigns or have personal and political connections to the president. Consider the U.S. ambassador to Canada, David H. Wilkins. (No relation to me.) President Bush nominated him in 2005. He’s been a South Carolina state legislator. He’s a friend of President George H.W. Bush and raised more than $200,000 for President George W. Bush in the 2004 election. Ambassador Wilkins and his immediate family contributed $33,050 to Republicans over the course of the 2000, 2002 and 2004 election cycles, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Apparently, he’d only been to Canada once — 30 years before his appointment — as part of military service. President Bush nominated Michael M. Wood as ambassador to Sweden in 2006. He knew President Bush, too. He used to ride mountain bikes with the president and attended Yale with him. He was a fraternity brother of the president. Ambassador Wood made his money by founding Hanley Wood, a company that produces magazines for the construction industry. Ambassador Wood’s predecessor, former Texas state Senator Teel Bivins, ambassador from 2004 to 2006, was a Bush Pioneer in 2000 and 2004. (Pioneers raised at least $100,000 for President Bush in the 2000 and 2004 campaigns. In 2004, Rangers and SuperRangers raised at least $200,000 or $300,000 respectively. This system was designed by Karl Rove, President Bush’s senior political adviser.) The LoyalOpposition —-Many of George W. Bush’s nominees have been significant donors to his election campaigns or have personal and political connections to the president.

Consider the U.S. ambassador to Canada, David H. Wilkins. (No relation to me.)

President Bush nominated him in 2005. He’s been a South Carolina state legislator. He’s a friend of President George H.W. Bush and raised more than $200,000 for President George W. Bush in the 2004 election. Ambassador Wilkins and his immediate family contributed $33,050 to Republicans over the course of the 2000, 2002 and 2004 election cycles, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Apparently, he’d only been to Canada once — 30 years before his appointment — as part of military service.

President Bush nominated Michael M. Wood as ambassador to Sweden in 2006. He knew President Bush, too. He used to ride mountain bikes with the president and attended Yale with him. He was a fraternity brother of the president. Ambassador Wood made his money by founding Hanley Wood, a company that produces magazines for the construction industry.

Ambassador Wood’s predecessor, former Texas state Senator Teel Bivins, ambassador from 2004 to 2006, was a Bush Pioneer in 2000 and 2004. (Pioneers raised at least $100,000 for President Bush in the 2000 and 2004 campaigns. In 2004, Rangers and SuperRangers raised at least $200,000 or $300,000 respectively. This system was designed by Karl Rove, President Bush’s senior political adviser.)

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By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387295 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 17:54:32 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387295 Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm-----------------(CNN June 6, 2012) --Just last week, Mitt Romney criticized Obama's economic acumen while standing in front of the company's now-closed headquarters in Fremont, Calif. Solyndra represents the ideological divide between the two parties on issues beyond energy. To Democrats it represents government support for a private enterprise that was supposed to create something that made us all better off -- clean energy and jobs. To Republicans it represents government overstepping its role. With the issue not showing signs of fading away in the election, here are seven things you should know about Solyndra and the Department of Energy loan program that supported it. It was started by Bush: The DOE loan program that funded Solyndra was actually started by President Bush in 2005. It was intended to provide government support for "innovative technologies." But the Bush administration never approved Solyndra's loan, saying the application needed more work. Congress thought there would be more failures: Two companies have declared bankruptcy under the loan program so far, out of the 33 projects funded. Congress was expecting more. Lawmakers set aside $10 billion to cover any losses from $26 billion in loans. Solyndra could potentially cost the government $529 million. And Beacon, a power storage company that also went bankrupt, cost the government $12 million. So even if Solyndra ends up costing the full $529 million, there's still nearly $9.5 billion available should other loans go belly up. Two other DOE-funded companies have also had trouble -- Ener1 and Fisker -- but they received grants and are not in the loan program. Solyndra wanted more: The company applied for another $468 million in funding shortly after its first DOE loan closed. The government did not award the second request. Taxpayers aren't the only losers: Private investors lost almost twice what the government did -- nearly $1 billion. While much has been made that the largest private investor was an Obama supporter, the second largest was a fund controlled by the Walton family -- of Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) fame. Walton family members are noted Republican donors. The renewables program is closed: The renewables loan program that funded Solyndra and other wind and solar ventures is now over. There is still $170 million available for renewables under a separate program that also handles nuclear power. The nuclear power program can still back up to $8 billion in loans. Another program focused on fuel efficiency in cars can back an additional $16.6 billion in loans. No smoking gun with Solyndra wrongdoing: Last week, Mitt Romney said an inspector general "looked at this investment and concluded that the administration had steered money to friends and family." That appears to be incorrect, as no evidence of undue influence peddling by the White House has been uncovered in an official, independent report. Solyndra isn't a typical solar company: Solyndra did not make regular, flat solar panels. It made a more advanced, cylinder-shaped device designed to capture the sun's rays on its entire surface -- hence the company's name. It was the rapidly declining price of traditional, flat solar panels and silicon -- mostly from China -- that did the company in. Were they friends of Bush? Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm—————–(CNN June 6, 2012) –Just last week, Mitt Romney criticized Obama’s economic acumen while standing in front of the company’s now-closed headquarters in Fremont, Calif.

Solyndra represents the ideological divide between the two parties on issues beyond energy.

To Democrats it represents government support for a private enterprise that was supposed to create something that made us all better off — clean energy and jobs.

To Republicans it represents government overstepping its role.

With the issue not showing signs of fading away in the election, here are seven things you should know about Solyndra and the Department of Energy loan program that supported it.

It was started by Bush: The DOE loan program that funded Solyndra was actually started by President Bush in 2005. It was intended to provide government support for “innovative technologies.”

But the Bush administration never approved Solyndra’s loan, saying the application needed more work.

Congress thought there would be more failures: Two companies have declared bankruptcy under the loan program so far, out of the 33 projects funded. Congress was expecting more.

Lawmakers set aside $10 billion to cover any losses from $26 billion in loans. Solyndra could potentially cost the government $529 million. And Beacon, a power storage company that also went bankrupt, cost the government $12 million. So even if Solyndra ends up costing the full $529 million, there’s still nearly $9.5 billion available should other loans go belly up.

Two other DOE-funded companies have also had trouble — Ener1 and Fisker — but they received grants and are not in the loan program.

Solyndra wanted more: The company applied for another $468 million in funding shortly after its first DOE loan closed. The government did not award the second request.

Taxpayers aren’t the only losers: Private investors lost almost twice what the government did — nearly $1 billion.

While much has been made that the largest private investor was an Obama supporter, the second largest was a fund controlled by the Walton family — of Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) fame. Walton family members are noted Republican donors.

The renewables program is closed: The renewables loan program that funded Solyndra and other wind and solar ventures is now over. There is still $170 million available for renewables under a separate program that also handles nuclear power.

The nuclear power program can still back up to $8 billion in loans. Another program focused on fuel efficiency in cars can back an additional $16.6 billion in loans.

No smoking gun with Solyndra wrongdoing: Last week, Mitt Romney said an inspector general “looked at this investment and concluded that the administration had steered money to friends and family.”

That appears to be incorrect, as no evidence of undue influence peddling by the White House has been uncovered in an official, independent report.

Solyndra isn’t a typical solar company: Solyndra did not make regular, flat solar panels.

It made a more advanced, cylinder-shaped device designed to capture the sun’s rays on its entire surface — hence the company’s name.

It was the rapidly declining price of traditional, flat solar panels and silicon — mostly from China — that did the company in.

Were they friends of Bush?

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By: TheLoyalOpposition http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387191 TheLoyalOpposition Mon, 13 May 2013 17:43:19 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387191 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 1:26 pm ---- How convenient of you to overlook the juicy parts of my posts.... and only mention the things that makes Obama look innocent!! --------- Let's summarize our Nixon-Obama dicussion.......... With Nixon we have a break-in at a political office, and a cover-up, for political gain.......... With Obama we have... 1) smuggling guns for political gain that end up in the death of a border agent and hundreds of Mexican nationals...... 2) Abandoning a diplomat and lying about it for two weeks to save an election...... 3) Giving billions of taxpayer dollars to cronies knowing their businesses wont last a year after the "investment"...... 4) having your executive-branch-run CIA department admittedly harrass members of the opposing party for political gain!! ----------- Gosh, First One... this will be tough to decide who deserves to resign more.... hmmmmmmm!!!!! thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 1:26 pm —- How convenient of you to overlook the juicy parts of my posts…. and only mention the things that makes Obama look innocent!! ——— Let’s summarize our Nixon-Obama dicussion………. With Nixon we have a break-in at a political office, and a cover-up, for political gain………. With Obama we have… 1) smuggling guns for political gain that end up in the death of a border agent and hundreds of Mexican nationals…… 2) Abandoning a diplomat and lying about it for two weeks to save an election…… 3) Giving billions of taxpayer dollars to cronies knowing their businesses wont last a year after the “investment”…… 4) having your executive-branch-run CIA department admittedly harrass members of the opposing party for political gain!! ———– Gosh, First One… this will be tough to decide who deserves to resign more…. hmmmmmmm!!!!!

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By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387065 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 17:26:34 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387065 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:45 pm — So now a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as a MURDER of a border agent by guns smuggled illegally into Mexico by our government!?!? — And a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as the ABANDONMENT of a Ambassador to DIE… and then covering-up for 14 days (with proven LIES) so that your election won’t be affected?!?!?!? —– Who is “being rational” here?? Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm -------------- Loyal, first who said anything about importance as you so manipulatively put it. Did Obama order the deaths of these 4 men? NO...did Nixon order the brake in...yes. End of Story. Republicans know their party is fading away into history. If it were not for the gerrymandering by republicans they would have lost the house.. Republicans are almost as popular as pond scum. The extend to which they are going after these non stories is a testament to just how scared they are of Hillery and their own decent into oblivion. thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:45 pm — So now a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as a MURDER of a border agent by guns smuggled illegally into Mexico by our government!?!? — And a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as the ABANDONMENT of a Ambassador to DIE… and then covering-up for 14 days (with proven LIES) so that your election won’t be affected?!?!?!? —– Who is “being rational” here?? Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm ————– Loyal, first who said anything about importance as you so manipulatively put it. Did Obama order the deaths of these 4 men? NO…did Nixon order the brake in…yes. End of Story. Republicans know their party is fading away into history. If it were not for the gerrymandering by republicans they would have lost the house.. Republicans are almost as popular as pond scum. The extend to which they are going after these non stories is a testament to just how scared they are of Hillery and their own decent into oblivion.

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By: TheLoyalOpposition http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32387037 TheLoyalOpposition Mon, 13 May 2013 17:22:56 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32387037 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:52 pm ------ Speaking of being a "little disingenuous"..... I think there is a big difference in hiring a political friend's company to do some work for you in DC after the election..... and INVESTING $ BILLIONS of TAXPAYER MONEY in "green" companies which can't even last a year before they go belly-up!!! --- If you can't see the difference, I can't waste my time with you!! thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:52 pm —— Speaking of being a “little disingenuous”….. I think there is a big difference in hiring a political friend’s company to do some work for you in DC after the election….. and INVESTING $ BILLIONS of TAXPAYER MONEY in “green” companies which can’t even last a year before they go belly-up!!! — If you can’t see the difference, I can’t waste my time with you!!

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By: TheLoyalOpposition http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32386990 TheLoyalOpposition Mon, 13 May 2013 17:17:20 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32386990 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:45 pm --- So now a "break-in" for political info and a cover-up......... is NOT as important as a MURDER of a border agent by guns smuggled illegally into Mexico by our government!?!? --- And a "break-in" for political info and a cover-up......... is NOT as important as the ABANDONMENT of a Ambassador to DIE... and then covering-up for 14 days (with proven LIES) so that your election won't be affected?!?!?!? ----- Who is "being rational" here?? thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:45 pm — So now a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as a MURDER of a border agent by guns smuggled illegally into Mexico by our government!?!? — And a “break-in” for political info and a cover-up……… is NOT as important as the ABANDONMENT of a Ambassador to DIE… and then covering-up for 14 days (with proven LIES) so that your election won’t be affected?!?!?!? —– Who is “being rational” here??

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By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32386741 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 16:52:30 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32386741 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:08 pm —— A priority… “to spur manufacturing of alternative-energy technologies and vehicles” is fine…… just not the way Obama did it!!! ——- When 23 of the 27 “green” businesses approved for Obama Administration federal loans have connections to campaign donors or administration officials….. THAT is simply CORRUPTION!!! ——- But, heck…. Congress does’t even have TIME to approach THAT subject with THREE OTHER LARGER infractions that need their attention!!! — LOL!!! — Obama’s TOAST!!! Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm ------------OK Loyal you are being not just a little disingenuous here..you know as well as I do that on that level everyone is connected on some level they all give money to political parties and in most cases to both political parties in order to foster favor by the administration..this happened under Bush and every other president. So, give me a brake. But, please don't let this stop you all from going after all those strawmen...it will do the dems good. thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:08 pm —— A priority… “to spur manufacturing of alternative-energy technologies and vehicles” is fine…… just not the way Obama did it!!! ——- When 23 of the 27 “green” businesses approved for Obama Administration federal loans have connections to campaign donors or administration officials….. THAT is simply CORRUPTION!!! ——- But, heck…. Congress does’t even have TIME to approach THAT subject with THREE OTHER LARGER infractions that need their attention!!! — LOL!!! — Obama’s TOAST!!! Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm ————OK Loyal you are being not just a little disingenuous here..you know as well as I do that on that level everyone is connected on some level they all give money to political parties and in most cases to both political parties in order to foster favor by the administration..this happened under Bush and every other president. So, give me a brake. But, please don’t let this stop you all from going after all those strawmen…it will do the dems good.

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By: thefirstone00 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32386682 thefirstone00 Mon, 13 May 2013 16:45:49 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32386682 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 11:59 am —— You know as well as I know that if this was a GOP administration…. the media would HOUND them for complete disclosure!! — Shoot… Holder perjures himself… Hillary perjures herself… executive privilege is necessary….. Nixon left office for less…. the only “comedy” is this administration!!! Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm ------First let me say that the media should be hounding BOTH parties for full disclosure but needless to say that neither party wants any disclosure....it is now in our political DNA. Considering the glee at which republicans have gone after Obama and Hillery don't you think if these people actually perjured themselves the republican controlled house could have moved to indite? You all call any testimony that doesn't support your paranoid delusions as perjury or lies. Your comment about Nixon resigning under "less" tells me all I need to know about your ability to have perspective and being rational....you can't have an honest discussion when your perspective is just so out there. I can understand that people can have honest questions about the events in Benghazi but to put it on the level of Watergate and ESPECIALLY Iran Contra where Reagan sold missiles to Iran after the returned the hostiges and then took that illegal money and gave it to the Contras, a terrorist organization, in Central America...but yet in the republican mind this was not as bad as Benghazi. thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 11:59 am —— You know as well as I know that if this was a GOP administration…. the media would HOUND them for complete disclosure!! — Shoot… Holder perjures himself… Hillary perjures herself… executive privilege is necessary….. Nixon left office for less…. the only “comedy” is this administration!!! Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | May 13, 2013, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm ——First let me say that the media should be hounding BOTH parties for full disclosure but needless to say that neither party wants any disclosure….it is now in our political DNA. Considering the glee at which republicans have gone after Obama and Hillery don’t you think if these people actually perjured themselves the republican controlled house could have moved to indite? You all call any testimony that doesn’t support your paranoid delusions as perjury or lies. Your comment about Nixon resigning under “less” tells me all I need to know about your ability to have perspective and being rational….you can’t have an honest discussion when your perspective is just so out there. I can understand that people can have honest questions about the events in Benghazi but to put it on the level of Watergate and ESPECIALLY Iran Contra where Reagan sold missiles to Iran after the returned the hostiges and then took that illegal money and gave it to the Contras, a terrorist organization, in Central America…but yet in the republican mind this was not as bad as Benghazi.

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By: TheLoyalOpposition http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/#comment-32386582 TheLoyalOpposition Mon, 13 May 2013 16:32:17 +0000 http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/?p=845738#comment-32386582 thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:08 pm ------ A priority... "to spur manufacturing of alternative-energy technologies and vehicles" is fine...... just not the way Obama did it!!! ------- When 23 of the 27 "green" businesses approved for Obama Administration federal loans have connections to campaign donors or administration officials..... THAT is simply CORRUPTION!!! ------- But, heck.... Congress does't even have TIME to approach THAT subject with THREE OTHER LARGER infractions that need their attention!!! --- LOL!!! --- Obama's TOAST!!! thefirstone00 | May 13, 2013, 12:08 pm —— A priority… “to spur manufacturing of alternative-energy technologies and vehicles” is fine…… just not the way Obama did it!!! ——- When 23 of the 27 “green” businesses approved for Obama Administration federal loans have connections to campaign donors or administration officials….. THAT is simply CORRUPTION!!! ——- But, heck…. Congress does’t even have TIME to approach THAT subject with THREE OTHER LARGER infractions that need their attention!!! — LOL!!! — Obama’s TOAST!!!

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