After Comments on Africans, James Watson’s Own Genes Found 16% African
James Watson has long been a renegade. Watson, who shared a Nobel Prize for the structure of DNA, made quite a mess back in October when he was quoted in the Times of London talking about the intelligence of many Africans: “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours–whereas all the testing says not really.” (Take a look at this previous POST for some context.) Watson apologized profusely, retired as chancellor of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory near New York City, and canceled appearances promoting a new book. Now Watson has run into another renegade–Kari Stefansson, head of deCODE Genetics, a biotech company in Iceland that has made repeated (and sometimes disputed) advances in deciphering the human genome. It so happens Watson’s own genome is online for all to see–and for anyone who’s learned in such things to analyze. Stefansson and his team say they did just that–and concluded that whatever Watson may actually think of black Africans, 16% of his own genes probably come from black ancestors. This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-grandparent who was African,” said Stefansson in Sunday’s London Times. “It was very surprising to get this result for Jim.” So far, no comment from Dr. Watson.
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So Watson, are you only 16% stupid? I thought is was more like 100%. Especially if you really believed there is any such thing as a “pure” race. I just pray that we don’t share any ancestors.
Posted by: anon | December 10, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I guess the Black genes in him made him use Photograph 51, which was STOLEN from Rosalind Franklin’s drawer and was used to get him and his buddies Nobel Prizes, which by the way, they had did not share with the lady. Yeah, right.
Posted by: anon | December 10, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Before you naysayers comment that he can’t be Black because he doesn’t look it, you should read about Dr. Gregory H. Williams, the current president of City College of New York and the former dean of Ohio Sate University Law School. His publications include the memoir, Life on the Color Line: The True Story of a White Boy Who Discovered He Was Black, which was named Book of the Year by the Los Angeles Times in 1995. Take a look at his picture and tell me would you call him Black. Even if you don’t think so, that doesn’t change the fact that he is.
Posted by: anon | December 10, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Well ain’t that the pot calling the kettle “BLACK”!!!
Posted by: Monica | December 10, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
We all have African ancestory.
Posted by: Christine | December 10, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Africans may not be the original human population. There may have been multiple populations that modern man descended from.
People seem to think that if Africa is the source of modern humanity that Africans are evidently gifted in some way. Not so.
And if Watson is 16% African, that means he is 84% non-African. Or did you all miss that?
Posted by: Ron | December 10, 2007, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I guess his “stupid” genes made him say that stupid remark.
Posted by: prosperine | December 10, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Actually we may all be related to africans. Think of them as the missing link or neanderthals if you will. Intellectually, they may catch up with the rest of us in the next several thousand years.
Posted by: Wiseman | December 10, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
ALL present-day humans, including everyone posting on this message board, (not just James Watson) are directly descended from the anatomically modern humans that developed in Africa and migrated in one or more waves over the past 75,000 years or so. In addition, every analysis of genetic patterns in humans detects extensive DNA variety in people in sub-Saharan Africa but relatively few differences among those elsewhere. This is because it was only a relatively small group of Africans that left the ancestral population and populated Asia, Europe and the Americas. Kenneth Kidd, Professor of Genetics at Yale University, has found that because of this bottleneck exodus, the DNA of black Africans contains more genetic variation than is present in the peoples of ALL OTHER CONTINENTS COMBINED. He suggests that the extremes of human characteristics are more likely to be evident in the original human population of the earth (the black African population). Therefore, it is possible the most athletic humans (and least athletic) would be African. In addition, as far as intelligence is determined by DNA, the most intelligent (and least intelligent) would presumably be African as well.
Posted by: Akinyele | December 10, 2007, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
As a supposedly enlightened and mature society, I wonder if we’ll ever get past this childish sniping at one another over skin-color and ancestry. We are what we are, and there’s no power in the universe that can change it. Deal with it!
Posted by: Andy | December 11, 2007, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Whether you are black white green or purple, everyone has a stupid gene! everyone on this panel sounds stupid and prejudice oh, and let’s not forget IGNORANT! Andy i wish they’re were more like you in this world!
Posted by: JVC | December 11, 2007, 9:59 am 9:59 am
I would suggest to the fellow who thinks modern humans evolved from “multiple populations” that his ancestry may include a cypress stump. That’s a very outmoded bit of 19th century misunderstanding of genetics that should have been obvious to everyone by now – even in this education-free zone.
Still there’s a great source of entertainment in listening to people bragging about their 103 IQ as compared to some inferior race’s 101 – as though either one was within 50 points of being something to brag about.
Oh yes, and to the other “expert” – Neanderthalers were a separate species and are not our ancestors.
Posted by: Capt. Fogg | December 11, 2007, 10:42 am 10:42 am
The multiple origin theory has pretty much been dismissed by anthropologists. To suggest that H. sapiens evolved in multiple environments independently is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
Posted by: Christine | December 11, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Food for thought: If we have just one anscester that is black (the kind with the curly hair or any other kind for that matter), …we would not even exist!!! So remember to kiss a black person’s feet or something like that the next time you see them.
Posted by: Daleri | December 11, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Hitler was apparently part Jewish. I believe that it is possible that he blamed his bad behaviors on that Jewish ancestry.
Posted by: Daleri | December 11, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am
This past summer I believe the National Geographic Channel aired a documentary called “The Search for Adam.” They analyzed DNA from thousands of men thru out the world and guess what, according to their data, Adam was black. I always knew I had black in me. I love that funky soul sound.
No matter what colour our skin is or the texture of our hair. We’re all God’s children. He made us purposely the way we are. GOD DOESN’T MAKE MISTAKES.
Posted by: Faye | December 11, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
There are a lot of people who think like Mr. James Watson (Who’s Own Genes Found 16% African) and the majority of them are in power. This is why there is a Geo political program to keep Blacks out of the loop, Whites fear that they will have to acquiesce to the true aboriginals!!! So by keeping Blacks in poverty and Uneducated will for surly discourage any advancement on the world stage. Just Get the Movie Freedom Road and that will tell part of the story……..
Posted by: Phorcyte | December 11, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
If 16 per cent of Watson’s genes “probably” came from Africans, then 16 per cent of his genes “probably” came from frogs also. Who cares!!!
Posted by: nativewooder | December 11, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
A lot of men think women are dumber then men…and yet, somehow, every man descended from one of them stupid women. Why shouldn’t they also believe someone they aren’t related to (or are distantly related to) is also more stupid than they are?
Posted by: SnowWhite | December 11, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
The problem is that way more than 16% of his RESEARCH came from Rosalind Franklin.
Posted by: ringo | December 11, 2007, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Watson is, of course, potentially correct. Decades of testing prove this.
Personally I believe that Africans lower IQ level is down to poor nutrition and a lack of basic educational facilities (in comparison to the rest of the world) etc. Something not genetic and rectifiable. Watch how America will slip in the coming years.
What I despise is the political correctness brigade screaming for blood over a very scientific remark. Their efforts would be put to far better use finding the cause of this disparity.
Do not forget, the good Dr didnt put himself at the top of the IQ food chain – he was only stating his conclusions from vast swathes of researched data.
As a scientist, Im quite sure he will fully acknowledge his ‘black genes’.
Posted by: robert | December 12, 2007, 5:33 am 5:33 am
Knowledge without wisdom is a load of books on the back of an ass.
- Proverb
Posted by: Never mistake Knowledge for Wisdom | December 12, 2007, 7:30 am 7:30 am
He looks exactly like my dad! who had a mulatto grandmother,he has the same pronouced maxilla.
Africa is the grandmother of us all,do you rant and slander your grandmother for being older? for not being exposed to the same things as you were? for being as learned as you are?for not being progressive? no way.You understand she has her own wisdom and value.
Reading/Writing forms a massive part in forming left hemisphere type intelligence,sub saharan africa has only just begun in this area,it is only becoming literate,just as lithuania did in the 16th century,just as much of northwest/ eastern europe/the baltic/the finns gradually did thanks to christianity/roman/greek influence coming in.They were as iliterate and rural as africans then too – many still are! It’s what you are exposed too that’s the factor.
It was probably a bad idea anyway all of us leaving our rural lives behind for the mess of civilisation with people the most unhappy they’ve ever been,every year prescriptions for anti depressants go up higher and higher,we have our queues,cubicles and people watching tv every night in seperate rooms,almost no community,high divorces,wars and global warming.
If there is any peace it will come from being not knowing.
Posted by: Kate | December 12, 2007, 7:54 am 7:54 am
Bear in mind, there are white people in Africa. A friend of mine lives in South Africa and is half black but looks completely white.
And Mr. Watson needs to re-run his research.
Posted by: Miyuki | December 12, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
If you buy Darwin’s survival of the fittest How did the caucasian, black race, spanish, replace the American Indian? Their numbers are barely a sliver of a radius map. Check how much %of our National prison pop. is black, Spanish or Mexican compared to white. Why are too many of black families being raised with only a mother? I don’t believe in stereo typing any one race or nationality, but the #s show a 500 year trend. I believe a person can refuse to be molded into something pre determined. Or they can fall into an expected lifestyle. I am glad to see the US court system finally realizing that cocaine and crack are the same infraction and one should not be sentenced to almost triple time in prisons for the same drug. We will see a better place, with liberty and justice for all!
Posted by: Daryl | December 12, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
The revelation the James Watson is an African-American (1/8 Black), and apparently has been passing as white for much of his life, adds an entirely new dimension to his preoccupation with race. The motivation for it is clearer now.
Posted by: Arthur | December 13, 2007, 8:49 am 8:49 am
For much of my life, I believed that seekers of ‘scientific truth’ were somewhat immune to the chauvinisms and bigotries inherited from the culture, class, or political philosophies prevalent in the world around them. As a professional archaeologist and anthropologist, I have noticed these lack of such immunity in my own discipline.
As can be seen in the microcosm of the history anthropology, it has functioned and been utilized as a handmaiden of colonialism, nationalism, and imperialism. No search for knowledge is void or beyond its suspension within a social context, and the politics they’re from. As is extensively described in the literature of our intellectual ancestors, science has been justified and reified racist and ethnocentric worldviews.
I share 30+% of my genes with a sea urchin. Maybe 40% with a banana; over 99% with a chimpanzee. With mapping the entire human genome (and the less than 1% difference present among us), I still hold hope that this knowledge will ultimately liberate society from the illusion of “race” as anything, but a social construct. I would love to believe that with them gone, and us here, we may present a more humanistic outlook than social darwinism or scientific racism have presented.
Posted by: M37 | December 13, 2007, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Why is it that in America, when a “black” person makes a baby with a “white” person that the baby is called “black”.
How many people realize that a real “black” humans skin color is blue black or dark purple and not brown or dark brown.
Most Americans are mixed race/mulatto/semetic, for example,”white” people with red hair have redskinned ancestors.
Posted by: Gary | December 17, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
it just proves what he was saying, the 16%
made him a dumb #######
Posted by: william bowman | December 20, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Joan of Arc said, “He who tells too much truth will surely be hanged.” We see it in this instance.
All the white negrophiles grandstanding what they think is intellect, would as easily be grandstanding racism ifd they just saw that as the the rightious and intellectual stance.
Posted by: mike libby | December 21, 2007, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Remember a few years ago when the media were in near ecstasy during the Bush-Kerry campaign? How dumb and stupid they thought Bush was… putting him down for his accent, etc… and how intelligent John Kerry was because he is a little more eloquent? Is this not both childish and assumptive … wasn’t it CNN who actually got the I.Q. results ( or the Military equivalent of an I.Q. test)from the both of them through their respective military records? Anyway, it turns out Bush’s numbers were higher. John Kerry’s reaction? “I might of partied the night before”. My personal view ( as if anybodys interested…) is that I.Q. tests and their results show either the person has gone to College, maybe even received a Degree. Or it might show one has a good memory.
Posted by: Perry S. | May 8, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am