One-Way Trip to Mars
For now, NASA openly says the prospect of sending astronauts to Mars is out of the question — too complicated and expensive. But a retired NASA engineer named James C. McLane III says a Mars mission is doable, and would unify the world as never before. Just a couple of details: McLane would send only one astronaut. And it would be a one-way flight. “There would be tremendous risk, yes,” McLane is quoted by Nancy Atkinson on the Universe Today website, “but I don’t think that’s guaranteed any more than you would say climbing a mountain alone is a suicide mission. People do dangerous things all the time, and this would be something really unique, to go to Mars. I don’t think there would be any shortage of people willing to volunteer for the mission. Lindbergh was someone who was willing to risk everything because it was worth it." McLane, whose father was a NASA engineer in the Apollo days, has been pushing the one-way-ticket idea as a way to recapture Apollo’s spirit. In 2006 in The Space Review, he wrote, "Americans forget that Apollo succeeded in large part because the country knew that sending humans to the Moon within the short time frame of ten years would be exciting, difficult, dangerous, and perhaps even impossible." Difficult and dangerous, yes — but no return trip? Past explorers he cites — Columbus, Lindbergh, Armstrong — knew they were taking chances, but believed they had a decent chance of coming home. McLane insists that for now, one-way is the only way. "Return to Earth from the Martian surface is a daunting technical problem for which current technology offers no obvious solution," he wrote in 2006. "Realistically, there aren’t even any schemes based on futuristic technology that are likely to be perfected within the next 20 years. When we eliminate the need to launch off Mars, we remove the mission’s most daunting obstacle." Soon enough, McLane argues, the first mission would be followed by others, and a colony might grow. The story spread to Wired, Gizmodo, Slashdot and other sites — overwhelming, at times, the Universe Today servers.
Do take a look at Nancy Atkinson’s piece. Is McLane’s idea crazy? Or are there people crazy enough to make it happen? McLane writes, "From our global population of over six billion, it will be easy to find suitable astronaut candidates." (Above: artist’s conception courtesy NASA.)
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I agree, there will be many willing to go on a one way trip, but how many of us would be willing to send someone knowing that it is a death sentence?
Posted by: Quietman | March 6, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
moronic – worthy of a Dilbert cartoon.
Posted by: chris | March 6, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
I would think that someone in the early stages of a terminal illness would be happy to volunteer actually–isn’t it the dream of every person to be able to do something that could benefit all mankind?
Let my kids get grown up and I’d volunteer in a minute w/no regrets.
Posted by: Jim | March 6, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Like the movie “Capricorn One”?
Posted by: Mike | March 6, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
There is a difference between planning to make it back and not being able to do so (like Lindbergh, who had many predecessors who didn’t survive) and knowing you won’t come back. Certainly there would be people willing to go, for the anticipated adulation if nothing else, and the Middle East is full of them blowing themselves up every day in the name of a cause. But people would want to remember a manned trip that was successful from launch to splashdown on Earth.
Posted by: Publius | March 6, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
If there was some way of guaranteeing them food and oxygen supply on Mars, then I could see this to be much more likely. Then it’s not a death mission, it’s more of a permanent colonization.
Posted by: Jesse | March 6, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
NASA should be scrapped from government funding and supported solely by private investors.
Posted by: Phil | March 6, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Thanks for that. Now I am embarrassed to be a human being.
I volunteer!! Send me to Mars ASAP !!!
And please God, when I die; could you reincarnate me into a species more intelligent; perhaps a mushroom?
Posted by: chris | March 6, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
First, we would have to pass progressive legislation supportive of humane and swift assisted suicides, (besides enlisting for a HUMVEE mission.)
Posted by: ric properties | March 6, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I think this was framed wrong. We already have proven technology to send objects to safely land on Mars. A person who took a one way trip could potentially (albeit expensively) be sustained from Earth throughout his/her lifetime and even joined by other astronauts. It would be more like a colonization than a death trip.
Posted by: Jesse | March 6, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I mean really…you want to use the premise of a suicide mission to mars….to..umm..unify the world.
Posted by: Robert | March 6, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Hey Robert – the writer of the article didn’t come up with the idea! Read the thing through again. It’s NOT his moronic, repugnant idea. But it is news.
Posted by: Douglas | March 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
I nominate George W. Bush!
Posted by: Karen Uh-Oh! | March 6, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Jesse
More importantly – WATER. If you can get a supply of water you can use a fuel cell to provide all your power and heat, assemble a greenhouse to create more oxygen and food supply. But first you have to have a large supply of water (liquid or solid does not matter).
Posted by: Quietman | March 6, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Send a few male and female kids out of college to colonize. Keep sending replenishment supplies. How cool to have the first baby on the martian surface.
Beam me Up!!
Posted by: Charles | March 6, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Before we consider the human mission we need a successful robotic sample return one. This would allow to test the lunch from the Mars surface at much smaller scale. And find this sort of mission as exciting and imagination capturing as anything else.
Posted by: Timur | March 6, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Um…I see his point but I don’t think listening to an astronaut describe the beauty of the Martian surface right before he unlatched his helmet and died of exposure would make ANYONE feel good.
Posted by: Hwatney | March 6, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Wouldn’t that set an ominous prescedent for the United States if we said that we were willing to sacrifice human beings in the name of progress? Isn’t the purpose of progress to improve life, not destroy it?
Going to Mars wouldn’t act as a unifier any more than the lunar mission was. And aside from some scientific research that can just as easily and much more cheaply be done with unmanned probes, there is no reason that we need to go there. Lets not put the carriage before the horse and let technology reach a level where travel to Mars can be done safely and efficiently.
Posted by: the Harlequin | March 6, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
A friend of mine, a Ph.D. in Geology, had this idea 5 years ago, and told me that when he asked his unmarried colleagues if they’d sign up, about 1/3 of them said that would be fine with them. Being the first person on Mars was worth it, they said.
I don’t doubt that NASA could find someone to do this.
Posted by: Dave J. | March 6, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I nominate Hilary then she can be President of Mars and won’t have to worry about those 3 AM calls.
Posted by: tomsea52 | March 6, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
So what is this single human on mars going to do? MUCH cheaper and more practical to use robots. You can have them working there for years. It wouldn’t be practical to send a human and all the life support equipment and supplies that would be required to achieve the same results. We need to focus on more beneficial goals like increasing our launch efficiency. Once we can pull stuff out of earth’s gravity well for a more reasonable price, a trip to Mars will be practical. I think there should be more focus on building a space elevator. Supposedly, we already know how to make material strong enough for the cables. Something like this will require a lot of international negotiation. IE where to locate the base, construction of materials. Launch of facilities into orbit, etc… Treaties to protect it, etc… Once it’s in place, colonizing the moon, building space stations, or going to mars will be a cinch.
Posted by: Shaun | March 6, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Doug-
There is nothing news worthy concerning a suicide mars mission. No engineer in their right mind would work on such a project. Any science section in any periodical should approach the subject of space travel with some seriousness. Sending someone on a “one-way” mars mission is nuts
Posted by: Robert | March 6, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Some of these responses are ridiculous. Do you realize how many people died trying to make the first powered flight? The Wright brothers weren’t the first people who tried to fly, nor were they the last. Even after they were successful plenty of people got themselves killed trying to repeat what they did.
Also the whole ‘wait for the technology to come’ argument is completely illogical. Technology is not some disembodied force that propels itself along. The only way to advance the state of technology (remember, technology is applied science) is to actually go and do it, to actually go an apply it.
You have to actually read the original article. It isn’t a death mission at all. The idea is that you’d continue to send a stream of astronauts, each one carrying a larger payload faster as each successful mission lead to advances in the next. Eventually you’ll start sending more people, building up a colony and infrastructure, and eventually you’ll be able to make return trips. Yes, the first people that get there likely will die there, but they won’t necessarily die tragically or alone.
We’re all going to die someday. The only difference is when and how.
Posted by: Mist | March 6, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
I think we should. This is the perfect opportunity to capture some of the some excitement an sense of common purpose that was around during Apollo, but on an international scale.
Posted by: David | March 6, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Sure…We could pipe David Bowie (“Space Oddity”) into the spaceship as the volunteer astronaut journeys toward Mars. You know…the song that starts with, “Ground Control to Major Tom…”
Posted by: Tripper | March 6, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Wow, I’ve got a long list of people that would be perfect for a one way trip! And I bet they could be trained to be an astronaut too.
Posted by: Brent | March 6, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Could they make it for two so bush and cheney could go together…. ?
Posted by: Squierghia74 | March 6, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
There really is no point in sending a single person on a one-way trip. You need a team of scientists who specialize in different disciplines, you need samples selected by humans to be returned to earth (which robots can do, but not as effectively), and a human needs companionship during such a long trip. Going to Mars is not just about getting someone there, to say we’ve made it, but to lay the groundwork for scientific exploration, colonization, and resource exploitation.
Posted by: Heliocracy | March 6, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Such limited thinking didn’t get us to the Moon and back! We should be figuring out how to do the whole mission right. I’m certain people thought the same thing when first considering sending someone to the moon!
Why not send the means to get off Mars and back to earth on a separate mission, either before or after you send a man (or woman). On trips to the moon the main ship remained in orbit while another ship landed and returned the astronauts.
I’m sure if you ask around you will find plenty of people who can come up with ideas that will work!
Posted by: Dave Symons | March 6, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Outdoors safety courses emphasize the importance of hiking with a buddy, who can help you in an emergency. We are thinking of sending a man alone to Mars? It’s a death sentence. One accident or medical condition and who is going to help him? Solitary confinement is a tough sentence, that leads to depression and madness. Confined on Mars, millions of miles from the next person will leave us one unhappy Martian. I agree robots are cheaper, require less life support and no moral issues of abandonment.
The bigger question is that with our country 9 trillion dollars in debt, and 47 million Americans have no heath insurance why on Earth ( or Mars) would we want to spent more billions to explore a place that cannot benefit us in the least?
Posted by: Paul Carpenter | March 6, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
not a good analogy at all Mist.
for 1 thing , the quest for man to fly had benefits that were immediate for humanity in general , eg ; once we actually had airplanes that were somewhat reliable (which were themselves foreseeable by most engineers and scientists of the early 20th century) the first thing we did was employ them for useful purposes such as carrying the mail/medicine ,transport over otherwise non negotiable terrain ,aerial cartography ,etc.
and whats the immediate usefulness of a man on mars? uniting the planet? Haw! unlike early airplanes and aviation technology , todays engineers and scientists cant even foresee or imagine the basic technical advances needed to make the basics of a mission to mars (and back) a plausible effort in the first place,not now or even in the near future ,according to them anyway .
so it can be done…thats never a particularly good reason to do anything . i dont see humanity gaining alot from one man (or even a colony) on mars. at least not anything nearly like the ability to fly has given mankind.
robotics and such can largely do the same things as humans ,much more efficiently ,they are ethically easy to replace and without worry in many other respects as well ,compared to the human counterpart that is.
Posted by: bah | March 6, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
I second the nomination to send George W. Bush!
Posted by: Patty R | March 6, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
SCREW MARS… if this is going to be a one way mission… lets send them into the sun… way cooler and think about how many people would watch and they could load the ship with fireworks and time it for 4th of july and we could all jump up and down waving little american flags!
Posted by: Squierghia74 | March 6, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Paul Carpenter
Why do you say that there is no benefit?
Posted by: Quietman | March 6, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Maybe if we called it “homesteading” instead of a one way death mission it would stand a better chance of happening. Maybe even send along a tent and some light weight furniture. lol.
Posted by: Rolando | March 6, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
I honestly believe we should wait on this. Technology as it is won’t help us, and neither will the current affairs of the world. All this will do is create yet another conflict and Mars will become something to fight over.
And as for this article…it could use some improvement. The tone is horribly biased, it seems. That’s just what I think.
Posted by: Patron of Healing | March 6, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I thought there would be many more people who would be very interested to participate even though it is a one-way mission. My husband and I talk about this all the time and would both go in a heartbeat. We dream about going into space and could care less if we ever come back to this planet. We are so fascinated with outer space and what it holds that we don’t give staying on Earth permanently a second thought. We’re ready to move on to new frontiers. More than anything we simply think it is fascinating.
Posted by: Jen | March 6, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Some immediate candidates for the one-way trip come to mind. For example, (1) Hillary Clinton; (2) B. Hussein Obama; (3) Harry Reid; (4) Howard Dean; (5) Jack Murtha; (6) Nancy Pelosi; (7) Charlie Rangel; (8) Bill Clinton; (9) Jimmy Carter; (10) Chuck Schumer; (11) Jim Webb; (12) Barbara Boxer; or (13) Diane Feinstein.
I think my point is clear. Any chance to send any of these idiots above to space, forever, would greatly benefit our nation.
Posted by: Robert Marley | March 6, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I’ll be your huckleberry. Who knows? I might outlive the other 6 billion (minus 1) if things keep going the way they are now…
Posted by: Davis Bradley | March 6, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
A Sun trip might work. Don’t worry about being burned up. We will just make sure we leave at night.
Posted by: Robert | March 6, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Why send a human..the Japanese are perfecting the humanoid robot, and we could use their expertise.
It seems they are pretty advanced..serving tea, climing steps, directing traffic.
Why not send a bunch of their humanoid robots to Mars and have them build a space station- then we can send a human after the station is built and operating.
I don’t know where these engineers come from, but we need to work smart not hard.
Posted by: Edie | March 6, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
This is unethical and would not be done. This guy loses credibility even suggesting it. And what does it prove? That we can send someone and not return him. Frankly, that is failing the missions. Not going at all and failing the mission are the same thing. I think we can afford to wait until we can succeed at the mission.
Posted by: Joe | March 6, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
The idea that you can explore the galaxy without risk and death is ludicrous. People risk their lives every day for no more then the exhilleration of the risk itself.
If Columbus and other explorers had the same mentality when regarding the vastness of our oceans then there would be no place called America.
No risk no reward, folks.
Posted by: Mike | March 6, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
There’s the followup mission too- “Man on the Sun in 2021″… stay tuned…
Posted by: GCH | March 6, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Sending a mission to Mars, in this day and age, would be a GROSS waste of money, resources, and manpower. There is so much to be addressed right here on earth that the money and manpower would be FAR BETTER spent working on. NASA = KEY MEMBER OF THE US MILITARY COMPLEX
Posted by: RW | March 6, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
I think Mr. Mclane should be first in line. We could send all the stupid like him to Mars. I am employed at a NASA sight and I don’t know anyone who would consider a suicide mission successful. We know we can get a vehicle there whats the point of having it manned if there is no possibility of a return? Mr. Mclane is an embarrasment to all his collegues in the agency;past, present and future. NASA values life and while many in the pursuit of space exploration are willing to RISK their lives, I don’t believe there are any who would condone the needless SACRIFICE you suggest.
Posted by: Eric | March 6, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Sounds like this numbskull totally missed the point of the Apollo program. Of course there was pioneer spirit. There was no shortage of daring, ambition, courage or vision. BUT… there was never, EVER a question about the crew’s return. The US public would never accept sending astronauts into space on a suicide mission. Even the Russians weren’t crazy enough to send a capsule to the moon if there was no chance to get the crew back. It was always, ALWAYS part of the plan that the crew should travel to the moon and then return from their journey. If they couldn’t solve the problem of how to get the crew back, the journey simply WOULDN’T HAPPEN. The author of that article is therefore clearly an idiot.
Posted by: Steve | March 6, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
I think it is a good idea we would get a lot of imformation!!!
Posted by: jeff | March 6, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Taking calculated risks is one thing. Committing government sanctioned suicide is another.
This proposal is baloney. If we can build a vehicle that can take a person to the moon, and to Mars (with all that it entails), we can build it to return that person to Earth. Sending an astronaut on a one-way trip to Mars would be senseless. Why don’t we just cremate one and send his/her ashes, and avoid the need for life support on the outward journey?
This proposal would not unify the world any more than the moon landings or ISS have done. I’m sure, however, that we would experience collective regret if we went through with this.
The idea is to enable more people to go into space, not fewer. We’re on a track to do that, now (not fast enough). Sending one person to Mars on a one way mission would be nothing more than a stunt.
Decades ago Kennedy’s speech included the phrase “… landing a man on the moon, and returning him safely to Earth”. The limiting factor we face now is not lack of technical talent, nor bravery, nor confidence. It’s money. We want to go back into space to explore and to stay. This stunt that Mr. McClane describes would do little or nothing to create forward progress in fulfilling that Vision – and it might conceivably be detrimental. We have matured as a country in regard to our space program. We now view it as a journey, and do not impatiently long for a single accomplishment. We have to use our resources wisely to build a sustainable infrastructure. We should start simply, and accomplish what we can early, but we also need to do this in a way that nurtures commercial enterprises, in order to garner economic benefits, which would solidify long-term support.
Posted by: jb | March 6, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
There’s nothing wrong with sacrifice. There are very few things or events of human greatness that didn’t require blood and sacrifice to make it happen.
Let’s get honest here. If human lives really mattered, I mean really, then the Darfur Genocide, as the American Government calls it, would’ve been dealt with long ago.
If there is someone looking to advance human knowledge by taking a one way trip to mars I say–if they’re qualified–let them. While there are plenty of emotional reasons why people are offended by the ‘one way trip’ idea there are very few logical ones.
Posted by: Mike | March 6, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
More on the lighter side…Dont you think that we should as(true concerned americans) be more focused on identifying and alarming police of the potential islamic terrorists in our own society here! Think about it!
Posted by: the Slammer | March 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
You could have a point there NASA. Instead of having another Nazca we could send the guys that are political screw-ups. Just think of it! AND they never came back!
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | March 6, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I’d rather seem them expand the space station and set up a colony on the moon before we send anyone on a one-way trip to Mars. At least with a moon base, we’d stand a chance of rescuing them if something went wrong. Or they could get a working Earth-to-Orbit/Orbit-to-Station plane that works.
Posted by: Shadow Dancer | March 6, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Hey NASA while I finally have you here: Can you get one of your guys to double back so I can get a full story on why we never went back to the moon? Also I really loved your Columbus idea. Very sharp there comet. Very sharp indeed.I really got the flashes when I saw that petrified guy in the mars photo. Man, then I saw it all. It rhymed with the thimble somebody found imbedded in a coal mine 5 miles under the ground. Like those little ruins places? They were cute. Where did all da water go? Mr. Big Mouth and “honey” no doubt. Have a great day NASA. See you at 10.
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | March 6, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Isn’t there that guy Robert Zubrin whose work on a manned mission has been acknowledged by quite a few of his peers? Or do i watch too much of the Nat Geo channel?
Posted by: Simon | March 6, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Hey NASA! One more comment. Ever see how Erik Von Danken (sp) has-the Gods left never to return. Boy is that alot of you know what! They landed and the natives came out of the jungle and ate them. Then they used their ships for cool relief carvings of Mayan Indian chief sitting in ship. They did find those airplane models scaled to size. Where did the time go?
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | March 6, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I think this idea has merit, actually. A carefully planned trip would place a human on the Martian surface, alone for possibly decades. But within those decades the technology will improve, thus increasing the likelihood of getting another mission to the surface, either to colonize or return, carrying the original explorer. The idea works even better if the original crew consists of two members. The information sent back from Mars would also help speed up the next mission. Communication to earth also remains constant, so “alone” may not feel so alone. I don’t think it’s that farfetched, really.
Posted by: Hey Scoob | March 6, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
life is a death sentence
Posted by: Kenneth | March 6, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
hey Mike, heres a logical reason for not doing such a mission you (and your obviously gigantic intellect) may have missed….
A MAN/MANNED MARS MISSON COSTS AN INSANE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND EFFORT , WITH HARDLY A CHANCE FOR ANY NOTEWORTHY GAINS TO SHOW FOR IT , MOST EXPERTS AGREE ON THAT…. AND MIKE, THE $$ AND EFFORT COULD/SHOULD BE SPENT ON MORE PRESSING/IMPORTANT NEEDS OF HUMANITY,LIKE SOLVING THE ENERGY CRISIS GLOBAL WARMING AND MAKING MORE NUTRITIOUS FOOD AVAILABLE TO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE STARVING TO DEATH DAILY ,TODAY EVEN !!
read up on maslows’ theory of human needs, (which is social logic Mike) and guess what ?
nobody really cares whats on mars/going on on mars while they personally are starving ,with no water and without a roof over their head(s) ergo space exploration is not one of the basic needs ,and until we are doing better meeting those basic needs for more people on a day to day basis i say that manned space exploration is huge waste/mismanagement of time and funds and effort ,and so do the experts Mike.
Posted by: bah | March 6, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Why dont we just all get together..like 1000 of us…go down to Area 51 pull the flying saucer out of it’s secret underground hanger and head on over to mars and unite the world!!!
Posted by: Robert | March 6, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
One benefit everybody has missed about colonizing Mars: it’s insurance for humanity. If something happens to earth, the human race will not be extinct. Or has this already happened once? Where’s my Mission To Mars DVD…
Posted by: Hey Scoob | March 6, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
That would be great. One man, one dog. Life would be good. Send a new ship every 26 months…bringing new tech, supplies and people. Let’s do it! Can you imagine the marketing?!?
Posted by: Cymoril | March 6, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Let the astronaut take along a backpack containing RDX to blow up a crater or two, and the entire Pakistani nation may volunteeer. We’d donate to send them too. Why send just one? Send all the “fedayeen”. One small leap for the IQ of Mars, one GIANT stride for the IQ of Earth. If they can burn a specially-made replica of Old Glory, they’d take their friends along too. Remember the guy who lit his own hair on fire trying to burn the US flag in Lahore?
Posted by: markadam | March 6, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
I would go. What am I missing here on earth? Humans have managed to turn this planet in crap, I might as well go out doing something cool.
Posted by: Glenn Sievert | March 6, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
This is freakin crazy! who would want to risk their life, family, friends, and everything else that is worth staying on this planet to go to Mars? this is so stupid! no one wants to go on a one-way trip to Mars. I f McLane is so crazy about it, then why doesn’t he go. I mean he is old and he is not losing anyone going to Mars and besides if he goes to Mars he will know he died fulfilling his dream! Personally, I would never go to some creepy planet alone, regardless the award!
Posted by: Caroline | March 6, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
stop wasting my taxes on pipe dreams that have NO profits at the end. Columbus sail to find passage to China, bring back spices, and make a fortune. He could give a rats ### over Cuba or anything else that didn’t make him rich. Give that money back to the taxpayers, the rightfull owners.
Posted by: fred | March 6, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
As the man said, “Nobody gets out alive.” Or to echo Kenneth, life itself is a death sentence. The only issue would be in the time span. Are they thinking of sustaining a single human being on the surface of Mars for a normal lifespan, or six months and “poof”?
Posted by: Hokuto | March 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Remember the 1960′s movie Robinson Crusoe On Mars? One man on the surface and the other orbiting above {Adam West}.The orbiter crashes and Robinson Survives on the planet alone. Until he is helped with Friday a martian!
Posted by: BEERBOB | March 6, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
This planet, OUR earth needs OUR attention! NOT Mars! If Mr. McLane wants to go, as long as he spends his OWN money….GO! But not a single cent of our taxes or Government monies should go toward this!
Posted by: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO | March 6, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Imagine…you land on the red planet. Only you.
No internet.
No itunes.
Damn cellpone *shakeshake* no reception!
Man, do I want a pepperoni pizza.
Hey, this is sand. I can’t grow food on sand.
Three weeks later you are stark raving mad, and you’ve renamed the Mars Observer unit you found “Wilson”, and you take it on walks “Cmon boy! Atta Boy!”, much to the intense displeasure of JPL’s scientists.
Posted by: HAHAh | March 6, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
James McLane III has to be employed with the Bush Adminastration,,,,,,right????LOL
Posted by: Hal | March 6, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Suicide by Exploration……what a hopeless thought!
Posted by: Boris Leak | March 6, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Obama and his wife should go and he can then set up a new utopia one that perhaps his wife can be proud of…
Posted by: YOU CANT FOOL ME | March 6, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Where do I sign up? Terrorists, taxes, pollution, crazy people—a one way trip out of here to explore space–who could ask for a better way to go?
Posted by: Pat | March 6, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Face it. It is the height of hypocrisy and futility to pour vast human resources into trying to make a dead planet a living one in the event that we turn this living planet into a dead one (which we are in the process of doing). If we can’t even manage this incredibly designed and intricately balanced ecosphere, how in the world are we going to re-create one somewhere else from scratch? They couldn’t even make “Biosphere 2″ work, a project that was never actually independent from this planet (biosphere #1). Besides, the real problem, as illustrated by that fiasco, was selfish human nature. Humans can run (even to Mars) but they cannot hide from their own inherently broken selves. Even though they possess the most complex supercomputer known (the human brain), a deadly virus has been downloaded into each mind. The only hope for mankind is for the Master Programmer to intervene. Get rid of the virus, take us off this terminally ill planet that we have ruined, wipe the world clean and start over again.
Posted by: Voktar of Zargon | March 6, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I can think of a few people I’d like to volunteer for this program.
Posted by: dgfiit | March 6, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
i think humanity does not deserve or has not earned the right to go to other planets and stars yet.
First we have to tackle the big problems: war, famine,global warming,to much people on earth,terrorism, crime ,injustice,poverty ,the limited energy resources,lethal or chronick illnesses and so on…
And , if we have solved all that and more,then we will be worthy to go to the stars.Do not get me wrong, i love space-travel and i am a life-long amateur astronomer.
But i will not set my own dreams above the good off all others.Space-travel is a luxury that we can not afford right now.Besides, i strongly doubt if going to Mars will ‘ unite’ humanity.
Posted by: tiaan25 | March 6, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
My choice for whom NASA should draft to go:
George Dumbo-Yeah Bush
Hillary Clinton
Posted by: who I am | March 6, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
What a colossal waste of money. What do we get from NASA besides worthless bragging rights? Imagine what could be done with that money if you put it towards medical research or helping the less fortunate or countless other ways to help society. What a waste…
Posted by: Jim | March 6, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
There’s absolutely no doubt that if ‘human’ life is to survive in perpetuity, we need to leave Earth and start a civilization on another planet. The astrophyicists prove that human life will end here. But, Mars? What a waste of our limited resources! It cannot sustain human life. We’d better focus our assets on discovering a ‘liveable’ planet. And, know that it may take 1,2,3 or more ‘generations’ of space travel time to get there. There will be no need for a roundtrip ticket.
Posted by: dan | March 6, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Well, maybe two.
Posted by: Neo Politicus | March 6, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
The man who wrote this article doesn’t have the technical background to write such an article. I agree that going to Mars at this time is rediculously preposterous based on the weak technology NASA has. The thing he says that shows his blinding ignorance is the concept of colonizing Mars. We can’t colonize the Amazon so how are we going to do it on Mars where there is no air, no food and no cable TV? These people who talk about teraforming are morons. The magnetic field of Mars will not hold an atmosphere. Mars lost it’s atmosphere because of it’s weak magnetic field. Create all the oxygen you want – it will all blow off into space due to the solar wind. There will NEVER be a Mars like Earth again. It may have been at one time but it will not happen again and while I am on the subject Earth will be like Mars one day. Mars is however a very tantilizing prize. What do you want to bet there are precious metals there? Technically, the first nation there with a human can lay claim to the entire planet since it is one large land mass and a country like the US has the technology to put space-based weapons in orbit around Mars and in-between to destroy poachers. Do you know what the real prize is on Mars? Super radio-active materials. Materials unlike anything known on this Earth. Monsterously destructive elements. Screw the gold – we want better weapons. THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING. It has nothing to do with promoting mankind. Support your local NASA masta.
Posted by: Howard Taylor | March 6, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
What better symbol for the Bush years, than a long, hopeless, single-minded voyage?
Posted by: Jasper von Hockenshott | March 7, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Send Bush. No one will miss his departure and what better way to rid the Earth of his shadow.
Posted by: David | March 7, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
I second GW! Or maybe Hillary! Since she won’t be the first woman president, maybe she can go to mars.
Posted by: Cheryl | March 7, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Can we send Cheney, too?
Posted by: Karl P. | March 7, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
There is absolutely nothing we need to know about Mars that requires the deliberate sacrifice of life. Absolutely nothing.
Posted by: mork345 | March 7, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Why does everybody think of USA as the first option, let some billionaire russian become the first man on mars, it would save us time and money.
Posted by: gabe asher | March 7, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
The only answer to this stupidity is probably silence. Few know that due to the collision of heavy particles with th ebiological structures of that astronaut, his brain will be like a swiss chees upon arrival. With today’s technology, if you send a man to Mars, it has a good chance to arrive there at most a chimp.
Posted by: afinemaster | March 7, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
I’d be willing to go. I think it’s a great idea. I don’t think the sacrifice of a human life is such a big deal, so long as the person is willing.
Posted by: thefirstmartian | March 7, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
I strongly believe going back to the Moon in the near future would be the best option. A trip to Mars would be better served after we learned how to survive on a lunar base, then apply those lessons learned to Mars when the technology becomes avialable to send an astronaut to the red planet.
Posted by: bill | March 7, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
I would volunteer in an instant right now. Don’t get me wrong, I love my life, but going to Mars has been my dream in life since I was a small child. I would gladly give my life for this.
Posted by: jared | March 7, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
use the money to be used for funding that mission for humanitarian purposes instead…
Posted by: alvin | March 7, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
NASA has been planning the death of its employees for over 20-years..a 1-way trip to MARS..really buts them in their place/NASA…you make me laugh.
Posted by: Mark S. M. | March 7, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
We’ll never go anywhere as long as we remain the close minded, war waging, divided, hairy monkey beings we are. It’s gonna be a long time til we’re evolved enough to take on interplanetary exploration. Don’t hold tour breath for this to happen. It’ll be another 30 generations before we’ready for this type of adventure.
But hopefully it will happen.
Posted by: templar | March 7, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
LET ME GO WITH! NASA ROCKS!!! 1 WAY TRIP OR NOT. WE STILL NEED TO MAKE THIS TRIP. SO IF SOMEONE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY CAN AFFORD IT LET THEM GO WITH THE NEXT SHUTTLE!!!!
Posted by: Delia | March 7, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am
The real challenge has been to be real-time when exploring the surface of Mars. The signaling delays between Earth and Mars have made the exploration cumbersome. Even with a man on the surface of Mars the environmental suit would be too restrictive to be practical. The most practical way to get real-time with exploring the surface of Mars and to prepare for a surface environment would be to establish a space station in Mars orbit so that drones can be controlled in near real-time and surface samples can be transported to the orbiting space station for analysis. Until we can establish a long-term livable space station/ship any data gained by a live visit would be no better than what we have today.
Posted by: MBell | March 7, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am
This is a reasonable mission.
Posted by: DemocratForever | March 7, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am
Sending two would be better.
But it would be simpler sending two spacecraft. One to get there with the supplies for the ground landing etc.
Then a second ship which would return the astronauts, which could be lighter and faster.
Posted by: Chris Linthwaite | March 7, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am
Great idea with some serious modifications. The space settlers should consist of at least six people three men and three women (not lesbians) and at least two years supply of oxygen and food sent in two separate supply ships first to the same location. They would have to have inflatable domed habitat structures for growing plants and for sleeping and living in where they could get out of their space suits and just be people for awhile every day after they do their trips outside to explore.
The landing sites must be chosen very carefully since they will need liquid water right away for themselves and for the plants that they grow to make a breathable atmosphere inside their dome.
One person alone doesn’t cut it , but six dedicated young people with lots of supply support does. It would be a fascinating thing to be able to hear them from time to time give accounts of events happening on Mars like the first grass growing outside the dome , and the birth if the first child.
Posted by: Keith Tomilson | March 7, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
If launching from the surface of Mars is such a “daunting issue”, then why was launching from the surface of the moon almost 40 years ago so easy? Earth = 1g, moon = .166g and mars = .377g.
Seems like only double the problem from the moon. I know, the moon liftoff was done in a sound stage!! Another “hole” in whatever NASA says.
Posted by: Paul Fitzpatrick | March 7, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
(blinks) Okaaay. I find it stupid to think anyone would want to go on a suicide mission to Mars. The person’s death will more likely cause everyone in the world to roll their eyes in such stupidity. Everyone will be more excited to see a mission that succeeds in returning and remember that than a suicide mission knowing the person will die anyway.
Posted by: GWP | March 7, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Start a chain of unmanned supply landers to Mars now. We should be able to put them down relativly close to each other on the surface. With in five years we should have enough water, food and supplies stockpiled there to then send a small group of people. They could survive as for as long as we kept the supply chain moving to them. Eventually they could become self supporting. It may still be a one way trip but if we do it right they may not need or want to come back.
Posted by: DAN | March 7, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
I kind of agree with tiaan25. Once we get the problems here on earth solved, we can then devote some of our resources to a venture like this. Being “deserving”, though, doesn’t have anything to do with it. If we heal ourselves first, then we can venture out into the neighborhood without the worry of infecting the others who live nearby. If we go now, with our present foolish attitudes we’ll only continue the same scenario on another planet, and will have solved nothing.
Posted by: Andy | March 7, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Why go to Mars? What’s the point? Haven’t we done enough harm to planet Earth? Oh! I see! Let’s spread the stupidity of mankind and his warring ways, generation after generation. Rah! Rah!
Posted by: Joseph Buttice | March 7, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
I dont think its worth sending anyone to mars knowing that there is no way to come back to earth…..But if there is any volunteers, well thats going to be there decision knowing that there is no way back!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Karina | March 7, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
His analogies to Armstrong, Lindbergh, Columbus and so on are faulty. While they knew they MIGHT not return from their trips, I don’t think they would have gone if they knew in adavance they were sure not to return. Just because some guy is an ex-NASA engineer doesn’t mean he’s not a crackpot ;)
Posted by: snark31 | March 7, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
To contemplate a 1-way mission is to fly in the face of what humanity is all about. I don’t think much exploration would have ever been done if it were known in advance that there would be no return. What would be the point? The object of exploration is to bring back news of the unknown, of what there is to be seen, exploited and used for benefit. Sure, I’m confident there would be volunteers for such a journey. Some would have great reservations once they’d had time to contemplate what they’d embarked upon, and I’m also confident that some would go mad during the journey or at journey’s end. Personally, I suspect that Mr. McClane may be suicidal.
Posted by: Andy | March 7, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Its obvious many people in this blog don’t read up on the benefits to mankind that NASA has given them. Much of the technological breakthroughs we have today were started at NASA, read, understand, get an education. By the way, a one way trip with no hope of return is just dumb. Even if hope is only at 5 percent.
Posted by: Superman | March 7, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I don’t doubt that we as a race can send someone to Mars. Even if it is a one way trip and we find someone that wants to go. What is the point of a one way trip. Is there going to be a station sent with, or is someone gonna be sent there and and left to die just so we can say “We did it!”
Posted by: Steve | March 7, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
It really doesn’t have to be a one-way trip. A return vehicle can be put into orbit around the planet. A lander can be refueld from the known elements on Mars, docked with the orbiting vehicle and be on its way to Earth. We even could rotate people to and from. It is all possible. It wouldn’t really be a suicide mission, but a lengthy one.
Why send man? It is only logical. Rovers and robots can only do so much. They can also fail very quickly just from a little dust.
The advancements and invetions resulting from a manned mission are endless. What are all of the inventions to date credited to space exploration? Lots.
Humans have no choice but to go to Mars eventually. As the sun ages further, it will get so hot it will vaporize this planet. Mars will be a livible planet for quite some (something like a million years) time until the sun dies.
Posted by: j p | March 7, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Re-usable space aircraft. Take off and land like a plane. Send refueling equipment and fuel ahead of the space craft. Land near it. Take off again.
Now just design the aircraft.
Posted by: mbond | March 7, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
too many comments to read in one sitting, but i am overjoyed that so many folks applaud and believe in future space exploration. they may not agree on the how and when, but they are excited by the possibilities.
Posted by: sid | March 7, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Its already been said… but I feel exactly the same. If my son was leaving the nest, I’d say sign me up. But he’s just 14 months (:
I’d like to see the sustainability plans – I wouldnt think of this as a suicide mission, but a begining.
Mars
population : 1
Posted by: Eric P. Rivera | March 7, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The idea will be acceptable only after a solution is found to the impact of heavy mass particles, accelerated by Fermi fields, on neurons. People don’t seem to understand the real impossibility of this mission! You send a human, and it arrives a human with monkey-level intelligence, due to BRAIN DAMAGE. Has anyone visited the NASA Medical center in Washington D.C.? I did. Does anybody know how many astronauts ever returned with only mild biological damage from trips to outer space? 2%.
Today’s technology must provision for a rocket that has 10-inch lead walls to fully protect Life in Space… Phisicists or cultivated readers know what I am talking about.
Posted by: afinemaster | March 8, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
I will go! Where I can got this job? :)
Posted by: menyus | March 9, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Screw space we know more about space then we do about our own damn ocean. lets explore that first then go mess up space.
Posted by: dawsone | March 10, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
i do not think u all can go mars because….
The hereafter is coming…
All planets will destroy…
If u all do not believe,
to all teens … u all just wait for a few years…. and u will see it..
Posted by: john smith | March 11, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
No…
before whole the galaxy destroy….
on earth there will be 3 monsters which will test our faith….
Posted by: Mankind | March 11, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Only when another country or group of countries challenge the U.S. for space dominance will the U.S. get off our complacent behinds and rise to the challenge. Secondly, going to Mars successfully requires development and execution of a technology roadmap involving decades not a few years. I find it inconceivable that we can claim it will never be possible given the technological leaps made only within the last 50 years. I argue that technologyical change and innovation is accelerating making it conceivable we can overcome obstacles given sufficient time e.g. 30 year time horizon. What is lacking is vision,persistence, and leadership. Ideally, a coalition of countries could spread the expense over a thirty year time period. Alternatively inspire our free enterprise system similar to what the U.S. did in opening the west e.g. railroad land grants, , or a tax writeoff for investments made to support the technological roadmap. Perhaps the insatiable greed to growth and protect wealth could provide the financial engine needed and also supply the vision and leadership.
Posted by: MXB | March 11, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
going to mars isn’t much more complicated than going to the moon, nor would it be muhc more complicated to send humans to our nearest neighboring solar system Alpha Centauri.
Really makes you think twice about the credibility of the 1969 moon landing, which was supposedly carried out before most of us even existed. If we really did that, then we can do anything.
Posted by: me | March 11, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Endeavours in which man challenges some seemingly insumountable aspect of Nature, which elevate the human spirit, win or loose, but are especially inspirational when triumphant, are not initiated with the intention of not surviving the challenge.
Man (humanity) triumphs by surviving the challenge, mastering that aspect of Nature.
How is this any different?
If there is a plan to come back, via a staged series of missions, that at least makes some sense.
Posted by: Scott | March 11, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
The one way scenario is completely unacceptable. Why? There is nothing on Mars worth dying for.
Besides, what’s the hurry? Let’s get a roundtrip scenario feasible and do this the right way. In the meantime, there’s more than enough work for robots for the next 50 years.
Posted by: Chris S. | March 12, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Science fiction. It would cost too much money, money that could be used to solve problems here on earth. If it was funded by billionaires and the government did not contribute so much money to NASA, then I probably wouldn’t mind the scientists having their fun, but that’s exactly what a mission like this would be to them – fun, at our expense. A human would probably not survive the trip.
Posted by: jnnttlc | March 12, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
This article is not true. There is just as strong of an argument for a successful round trip. It requires sending the return trip fuel first and then the man mission. A two stage event.
Posted by: Dan | March 12, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Mike: If Columbus and other explorers had the same mentality when regarding the vastness of our oceans then there would be no place called America.
Actually, the place would still be here, it just might not be called America. And if Columbus left knowingly with enough food and water to only get half-way across the Atlantic, he would have been stupid too, and the trip would have been just as useful as a one-way manned trip to Mars.
Posted by: Total Recall eyes | March 12, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I think do a one way ticket is crazy. But why not send a man and a women. Then when they get there if they can breath the air on mars maybe they can start a new colony.
Then he or she would be alone for the greatest trip for the human race.
But with a what we have in technology maybe it would not have to be a one way trip.
Who ever does go may the Lord our God be with you always.
Posted by: Ron | March 13, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Speaking as someone who is terminally ill – I would volunteer. The problem is finding someone healthy enough to go. Given the usual lead time for training of many years it would be very difficult to find someone who is healthy enough for the mission but terminal.
Of course, many people would volunteer for a mission even when told it had only 50% chance of coming back.
I like the idea of sending the return vehicle first. If it lands ok and passes all the tests THEN the humans could be sent. But until we return to the moon on a permanent basis it is silly to talk about a manned Mars mission. Meanwhile, robots keep getting better.
Posted by: Chris Goodey | March 13, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am
Life is a one-way trip for all of us.
Posted by: Neo Politicus | March 14, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Excellent; but short sited ideas. There should at least be a return option if necessary.
Posted by: Art Bell | March 15, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
People die every day for much less glorious causes from lack of medical insurance to hunger to war. All the moralizing is ridiculous in view of the fact that we allow people to die every day. Moreover, that is the inevitable nature of reality.
I would be unsurprised if a starving parent would sacrifice themselves for a noble cause like this to win a better life for their kids. That may be inhumane, but it’s a hell of a lot better than just letting the same person starve and not providing them with anything, which is the current default.
Posted by: George Davis | March 15, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Silda is putting Elliot on the ship as we speak…
Posted by: Jules | March 15, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
A kamikaze trip to Mars is not what an engineer would consider a successful mission. Whatta dumb idea. I don’t think technology is to fault for a round trip to Mars but money. Huge unbelievable money.
Posted by: trevorblanco | March 16, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
This should have been done already on the Moon and that knowledge should have been used for a Mars mission.
Sadly the space age died with the last trip to the Moon and humans in space has never captured the attention of the people since. Sure we have a station around Earth but, imagine if we had 20 years of living on the Moon in our past to reference to. That’s if the Moon inhabitants will allow us to… : )
Posted by: trevorblanco | March 16, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Sounds similar to the debate before we explored the moon
Posted by: Kal | March 16, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Instead of wasting soooooo much money on a mars mission and supplies, shouldn’t we worry more about our starving and homeless families in this country? NASA should donate to that first.
Posted by: Sarah | March 17, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
What I’m having trouble getting over in response to this article are the responses. Spending our tax money on a manned mission to Mars, right now, is a bit of a stretch. However, think about all of the money that is spent on defense, or our bogus and greedy occupation of the Middle East, not to mention the time, energy and money wasted complaining about it (myself included). Think how much better of a place America would be if it weren’t militaristic, and attempted for ONCE in it’s history to be self-sufficient. And now you’re complaining about a pie-in-the-sky plan to send one person on a one-way trip to Mars? Secondly, for those of you that want to send politicians to Mars: what’s the first country that comes to mind when it comes to political exile? The United States. Do you honestly want a repeat of that? Another nation to destroy another planet?
Think about it.
Posted by: Ross | March 17, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
why does it have to be a suicide mission? why not set up colony the first run out there, that would be ambitous and worth the rest of someones life. think of this: we send a ship with a person or two and biodome type of thing with plants and maybe oxygen recyclers or something. The person could live out the rest of their life on mars, id jump at the oppurtunity but i doubt they would send me cause im only 17. haha but yeah we could send supply drops which in comparison to sending a human would be incredibly easy.
Posted by: jerry mattox | March 18, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Guys, come on we all know that mankind has no interest in fixing things in here, starvation, violence and nonsense is never going to be fixed, that is how the powers that are want it to be.
So please stop saying that we should use the money to fix things here since it will never happen, we have more than enough food to feed everyone on earth and resources to shelter everyone as well, however that we will never do that, you want to make a change then stop talking and stop paying taxes, if everyone stopped financing the nonsense than it would stop, yep thats right everyone that has ever payed the government anything is guilt of murder and atrocities, or are you guys naive enough to think that your money is only used for good purposes?
We all need to stop being 20-35% slaves of the government and financial institutions, it is our money that the government kills with, I am not against taxes however I am 100% against paying taxes and let someone else decide how to use that money, I should be able to dictate where my money will be spent, for example for humanitarian aid/non violent purposes only, that way I wouldn’t be responsible for murder and even worse atrocities.
So people wake up and demand that your money be spend for good causes only, oh while I am at it, for God’s sake stop freaking financing everything and demand that your money be backed by gold/silver, it doesn’t make sense that our tax dollars be given freely to bankers to pay interests in the money that they printed for us, it is a scam it is given bankers money in exchange of nothing in return, in short it is bankers/government stealing from it’s citizens, wake up people Federal Reserve Corporation owns the US and guess who owns the Federal Reserve Corporation? I dare you to go find out!
Posted by: GetReal | March 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Or, we could announce a mission to Mars and then shoot the whole thing in a studio. It worked before . . .
Posted by: Felix Culpa | March 19, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
I know some great people for this job…anyone serving 3 – 5 life sentences!
They can have all the freedom they want…on Mars!
If we don’t have the technology for a return trip then, NASA has been stealing billions trying to develop space travel that uses firecracker technology! Beam me up Scotty!
Posted by: Martin Martian | March 19, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I think there would be no better way to finding a soulution to the return trip to Earth problem, than sending someone on a one way trip. The person who has the solution hidden inside their head might be able to express it if there was a real need.
Posted by: Brett | March 20, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
i think it would be great for someone to go to mars and that person might be a hero no matter what happens
Posted by: :) | March 20, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
This is the same pattern we have always followed except with better odds. If we do this we should send a group. The people who colonized the Americas (or stole them from the locals, if you wish) never returned for the most part. Most of the early colonists died. It was a very risky process. We are not talking about an astronaut who will just go there, plant the flag and die, though the risk of that is real. We are saying go build the first colony and know that 20 more will follow in two years and 40 more later and 100 more later. This is how colonization has always been done. It is probably the only way it can be done.
Posted by: Rock Westfanhl | March 20, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
even better, we could send someone to uranus…any volunteers for a one-way mission to some other deep and dark place?
Posted by: tom | March 20, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
In the 1950s scientists and politicians promised civilizations much more than they have delivered and when James C. McLane III says a Mars mission is doable, would unify the world as never before, he is in my opinion very correct, and we should be at Mars by 2012 with a joint human venture expedition. Former: Senior High Reliability Test and Failure Isolation Technician NASA Space Shuttle and CENTAUR Flight Systems.
Posted by: William | March 21, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
UnderCover4Ever is ready. Where do I sign up at?
Posted by: undercover4ever | March 21, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
The very idea of an intentional space “suicide mission” is ludicrous. It would not only be scoffed at scientifically but moneterily a billion dollar fiasco with little gained. The idea that a person would volunteer for such a thing would immediately bring into question his (hers)and their counties motivations for such a trip. The world would expect better of anyone.
Posted by: vizorsdn | March 23, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Money? Americans waste more money than any other nation on the face of the planet. I live in a used auto pipline state. The sheer number of used cars is staggering. One can extrapolate for the rest of the states and it becomes mind boggling. May be we save a few dollars here and there, educate are children better, and some day we’ll take on the moon again and then Mars. One fact that gets forgotten, the Earth is dying. Why not get a leg up on survival. Granted it may take a few million years, but hey, why not?
Posted by: geofbrewer | March 24, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Hey.
What the hell happened to global warming ? Does anyone know how much .. crap.. rockets and fuel give off when boosting things into space ?
And I perfectly happy in using my taxes on Earth and not some other planet.
Posted by: the unnamed one | March 25, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am
honestly you have millions of volunteers … every one would love a chance to trip down the space way to another planet…. but to colonize all you need is to keep sending down air supply and food not so hard is it ….if we can send send satellites and rovers we can defenately send food and air and supplies to construct…
Posted by: alejandro | March 25, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
This launch is very risky but dont get me wrong it would be great to meet a Martian
Posted by: brandon | March 25, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
If it was a colonizing mission, I’m sure lots of people would volunteer to go. I know I would (provided NASA accepted Greeks for astronauts :-))
Posted by: Matt | March 26, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
They should put humans in a low orbit around Mars so that they can operate robots on the Martian surface without a long time delay and return to Earth before their supplies run out.
Posted by: John | March 27, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Columbus and all the other explorers new their was a risk, but not a guaranteed one way ticket to death. We are human beings with a soul, not an animal. Respect life.
The 5th commandment states thou shall not Kill.
Posted by: Jim | March 28, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
This is not even a question. Tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people would volunteer to take this mission. The question of a “death sentence” is absurd because everyone is going to die.
This scientist is speaking about a viable mission to get there and live out one’s life once there. The fact there would be no return trip to Earth isn’t even the point of a colonization attempt on another planet.
The success of this mission would simply be to live out life on Mars and help build a viable societal foundation for others to follow. There is no killing or murder here, only a long one-way trip.
Posted by: Robert | March 31, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Due to the repParty who pulled the carpet from the space program back in 1973,The US has been behind nearly 35 yrs ago.poltics as usual.the only reason george w Bush has shown any type of intrest is that he and his co herts have scrwed everything else up in iraq and here at home.The feasable chance of sending a sucide astronaught to mars is out of the qwestion.It would be like japan,or al qieda?go figure.we have the technology and the resources if they are redirected toward something that would be more productive and would have a more postive end result on the entire world in how we live.it would have to be more than one astronaught as in the apollo missions,and the shuttle would be involved in later missions as well.this is why there pushing for a lunar modualr base station.
Posted by: phillip | April 2, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Sounds an interesting idea, but it still seems an idea that will not be happing soon. mainly due to the expense even a one way trip would be billions and for little reward either.
Posted by: Post man pat | April 5, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
the fact is the technology to go to Mars does not exist…
When the brothers Wright began their quest, the technology for a lightweight powerplant had to be designed and built by them, the technology for designing and building a propeller had to be created by them, the method of controlling their craft had to be created by them, the extent data for how a wing provided lift was wrong and had to to be studied and developed anew.
Before the mission to the moon computers filled entire floors of buildings. The scientists and engineers created a computer small enough to fit in the tiny space capsule.
I can’t fathom the human genome project to have come into fruition without that type of world shaking technology.
So, if the technology doesn’t exist now then it must be created. What and how the requirements for a space mission will be met is the exciting part. It is exciting because the fall out from that type of knowledge holds promise for solving many of the issues others listed for not pursuing a journey of this proportion.
I am personally not so much in favor of a suicide mission as I am for taking on the impossibly difficult problems associated with such a task. I recognize that many are unwilling or unsuitable to a challenge like the one in the article. I think it may be more than unfair to hinder the progress of those few who are up to it.
Posted by: uwmengineer | April 5, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I think it is possible to go to Mars. We just have to overcome the technological difficulties. There are always nay-sayers but put bright engineers on the task and the solutions will be found!
Posted by: Eric | April 6, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Robert Zubrin – Mars Direct – Mars Society.
The technology by and large exists today. There are modifications that need to occur, its the logistics of getting to mars that makes it interesting. Forget volunteers. There are people that are training for it today. My only regret is I’m not one of them. I’m sure my kids are glad.
Posted by: BE | April 8, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I’m puzzled by the many comments including the Mr. Mclane’s contending that the technology to go to Mars either doesn’t exist or isn’t even on the horizon. I think that is the effect of listening to main stream media instead of doing the homework yourselves. Do some digging, the tech is waiting for us to ‘Man-Up’ not the other way around. However, I don’t think man’s first attempt should be a Hail Mary with the result being the first corpse on Mar’s.
Posted by: Jordan | April 9, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
This mission is worth doing. Period. Anyone that thinks otherwise should just get out of the way, and let us go boldly…
Posted by: Richard Dell Jr. | April 9, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Throngs of people have already done this very thing in the past. People crossed an ice bridge into North America. They took one way voyages on rickety wooden ships over wide oceans to new continents. They crossed vast wilderness to reach far away places with no assurances of what would be there when they arrived. Do you think the people on the Mayflower had any intention of going back? Their intent was to arrive in a completely new and untamed land and carve out a life for themselves. There was no going back. This is the same, only the obstacles on Mars make carving out that living very much harder. Is our technology up to the task? I think its time we start thinking about sending rickety metal ships over the wide gulf of emptiness between Earth and Mars. Homestead colonies are made of the daring ambition of our ancestors. Far better, I think, than meaningless “missions” that send people only to return them with a bit of dirt in hand, leaving the land only changed by a few unused relics.
Posted by: harborpirate | April 11, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
How do you equate one way with death sentence? I did not interpret it that way.You have a death sentence as soon as you are born.Duh!
Posted by: Mike Friesen | April 11, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Jim wrote
Columbus and all the other explorers new their was a risk, but not a guaranteed one way ticket to death. We are human beings with a soul, not an animal. Respect life.
The 5th commandment states thou shall not Kill.
Mike wrote
You have a death sentence as soon as you are born.
Sounds to me like a new mother just broke the 5th commandment.
Posted by: barney | April 13, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Before we invite the fire and brimstone into this discussion, lets try and tone down the “Birth is a death sentence” vein. A one way trip to Mars is not the same Mike. Its what we choose to do with our lives and who we in turn affect that matters. Turning Mars into some mausoleum for a desperate attempt to get someone there at all costs makes no sense and would be nothing more than a stunt. One that could undermine future support for continued exploration. The minds need to be changed down here then a careful technology build up for a safe manned return mission. We will want to meet these people afterwards. Martyrs are useless except to those who have already lost hope.
Posted by: Jordan | April 14, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
What surprises me are the true facts behind events that the American public never finds out about until years later. There may be man/men on Mars now that are there on a one-way trip but which no one is telling us about. The success of the Mars rovers may in fact be men who are actually doing the work.
Posted by: C. Jackson | April 14, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Sarah said..
Instead of wasting soooooo much money on a mars mission and supplies, shouldn’t we worry more about our starving and homeless families in this country? NASA should donate to that first.
Then we would have a bunch of starving and homeless Nasa folks!
Posted by: barney | April 18, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Umm, where’d anyone get the “suicide mission” idea? The article is about single-person colonization of Mars.
The astronaut would live an otherwise natural life on the surface, with a pressurized habitat, reliable power supply, and machinery to harvest hydrogen and oxygen out of the soil and atmosphere (and all those things exist with modern technology).
The only downside is finding a person who has *all* the right skills to survive and do science, and would tolerate the 20-minute radio lag (each way) between Mars and the rest of the living world.
Posted by: Knute | June 7, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
I want to commend the works of the astronauts and physicists in today’s world. But, I want to know what it takes to be an astronaut and also would like to have an advise from you on what I should do or know as an ASTRONAUT to be. THANKS.
Posted by: GODWIN | September 20, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
We would do it to inspire another generation, as the first space missions did.
Posted by: Tj | December 27, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
It’s not likely that a person making such a trip would arrive sane, or remain sane very long if he or she did. And, of course, there is the question of their mental balance in the first place.
Human beings are social creatures. We cannot function properly with some degree of socialization. Just the knowledge itself that you are going to be alone for the rest of your life would unhinge most people.
Posted by: DaveH | January 4, 2009, 7:51 am 7:51 am
You are wrong. The moon program was exciting because loss of life was considered unexceptionable. It was the statement by Kennedy that he must return to earth which made the quest exciting but also saying life is always more important.
We prove nothing by putting a body on Mars. It is obvious we can do that.
The challenge is to return him back to earth otherwise it is pointless.
Posted by: rr | January 4, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Send me there with a fine female specimen and some way for us to sustain ourselves there and I’ll go! We’d be the Adam and Eve of another planet! I’m totally serious. I’d go.
Posted by: Andrew | January 4, 2009, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
i know of many people I would send to mars. BTW, exactly how different is it compared to the moon trip? I know the gravity is greater on mars, but men came back from the moon. just wondering
Posted by: tj | January 5, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Jim McLane has expanded on his original proposal in the Jan/Feb issue of the science magazine “SEARCH”.
Posted by: Metate | March 18, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I would go.
Posted by: Devin | April 2, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
I’d go.
Posted by: MattT | April 3, 2009, 3:48 am 3:48 am
If I were a cancer patient with the year to live I’d sign up. But selecting a volunteer would waste the ultimate opportunity to _vote someone off the planet_! My vote is for George W Bush to have the honors of being Governor of Mars.
Posted by: Anonymous | April 5, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Americans would never do this. The Chinese on the other hand…
Posted by: sondurzge | May 15, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I think the idea is good except for the 1 man part! If you send 2, then if one gets in a bit of trouble, the other can help him out of it! And it just might keep him from going stark raving mad being totally and completely alone. On a red dusty planet where he can never open his helmet. And if 1 is male, and the other female, they will produce the first Martian!
Posted by: Filbert | May 27, 2009, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
If we send people on a one way trip it will more likely be a sustainable activity. If we send some people there on a return trip, it will be so expensive that no one will want to do it again for another 50 years. Also, sell rights to a TV network, and the video from all the cams will be edited into a nightly 30 minute show from Mars. That would pay for the trip and make a profit. The whole world would tune in every night!! You’d soon have people from all countries wanting to go!
Posted by: Filbert | May 27, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Another Small Step.
The Adventure and Accomplishment, that courageous, brilliant
couples and their decedents will have, by claiming title for
humanity, populating and terra forming Mars will eclipse and
surpass any previously known human endeavor.
Posted by: Nbsc Etts | November 17, 2010, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
If mankind would have learnt from the past a colony on mars already could be reality. Imagine all money spent for weapons, aircraft carriers, submarines, atomic bombs, etc. since the second world war would have been spent to explore space…
Each person that became rich because of producing or selling weapons also could have become rich by producing space ships or parts of it. But where is the demand? It seems hate is stronger than curiosity. But the nature is clever. Unworthy life will die, maybe ironically by danger from space (e.g. an asteroid) because unworthy life is unprepared and unworthy life doesn’t understand that a little biosphere (e.g. one planet) is easier wiped out than a big biosphere (e.g. a solar system). … just the time constant in space is another one than on earth …
Posted by: Physicus | April 12, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm