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There’s a climate conference beginning today in Poland — not that the world takes much note. The theme so far for the 10,000 delegates from 190 countries: Don’t let the economy distract you. "All of us are today concerned with the financial crisis," said Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, as quoted by AP. "But we must understand that financial crises happened in the past and will happen in the future, but our work for the environment should be timeless." Meanwhile, couldn’t help noticing, amid other issues, that global climate change kept coming up when President-elect Obama announced his national-security team this morning. Mr. Obama: "From our public health to our climate, we must act with that understanding that now more than ever, we have a stake in what happens across the globe." He’s reiterated his stance on climate change in this VIDEO. Sen. Clinton, nominated to the State Department: "I thought of the daunting tasks ahead for our country. An economy that is reeling, a climate that is warming. And as we saw with the horrible events in Mumbai, threats that are relentless." Susan Rice, the nominee for U.N. Ambassador: "With your election, Mr. President-elect, the American people have signaled to the world that our nation is on the path to change. Now, we must fulfill that promise by joining with others to meet the challenges and seize the opportunities of the 21st century to prevent conflict, to promote peace, combat terrorism, present the spread and use of nuclear weapons, tackle climate change, end genocide, fight poverty and disease." VP-elect Biden: "As was mentioned earlier, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the emergence of China, India, Russia, Brazil, and the unifying Europe as major powers, the spread of lethal weapons to dangerous countries as well as dangerous groups, the shortage of — and scarcity of energy, water, and food, the impact of climate change, economic dislocations, persistent poverty." I happened to hear these mentions as the briefing was in progress, and found them in the transcript by searching for the word "climate." If someone used the term "global warming," I missed it. I did not find references from Robert Gates (Defense), Eric Holder (Justice), Janet Napolitano (Homeland Security) or Jim Jones (National Security Adviser), though global climate probably wouldn’t fall much to them. Mr. Obama answered a reporter’s question about how he hoped his people would get along: "I assembled this team because I’m a strong believer in strong personalities and strong opinions. I think that’s how the best decisions are made. One of the dangers in the White House, based on my reading of history, is that you get wrapped up in group think and everybody agrees with everything and there’s no discussion and there are no dissenting views. So I’m going to be welcoming a vigorous debate inside the White House." ===================== UPDATE, Tuesday, 10:30 a.m.: Lawrence, you posted a comment this morning about carbon dioxide and the Permian extinction, 251 million years ago, and you were looking for an article on it. Take a look HERE. Is this it?
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Of course climate change came up. It was a leading issue for John McCain too. Just like the tobacco-cancer link, even a very rich industry can only counter scientific reality based on thousands of factual observations and peer-reviewed, openly published analysis for so long.
And Climate Change is the scientifically correct term, used for decades (when the field of research really began in the 70′s, they didn’t even know if it was cooling, warming, or stable – it took until the early 90s for the data to really be in). The press and ex-VP’s can deal in catchy headline terms, good for the administration to not feel the need to dress up the science.
Posted by: jhw539 | December 1, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Obama has said repeatedly that his most important issues in his first term will be Iraq, health care, and climate change. The fact that the economy has taken center stage right now, does not mean that our other problems have gone away.
Posted by: jock59801 | December 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
The economy and climate change need to and will be addressed at the same time.
Posted by: plantain11 | December 2, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
If left alone, without government intervention, I think the economy will fix itself. Sure, lots of people will lose jobs, and lots of people will lose their homes. But jobs can be created by entrepaneurs, and most of the people who’ll lose their homes, can’t really afford to be home owners anyway, so they’ll just have to rent and learn to do it the right way.
As for climate change. Right now, we lack the technology to adjust it globally. So we need to adjust to climate change. That would be so much easier, and cheaper than trying to adjust the climate.
And not to be an alarmist or anything, but last week I believe, there was an article explaining the Permian extinction and it’s correlation to high CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Ned, I can’t seem to find that article, it was really good, and would go well with this discussion. Think you could post a link?
Posted by: Lawrence | December 2, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Ned, you rock. Thats it.
Posted by: Lawrence | December 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Lawrence
Yes that was an interesting article but it does not cover the argument for a similar scenario to the KT event. A crater in Antarctica and the Siberian Traps just happen to occur at the PT event and there is good reason to believe that they are related in the same manner as the Yucatan crater and the Deccan Traps.
Posted by: Quietman | December 2, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Can’t say I’ve heard of the Antarctic crater. Got a link? What I know is what the article states, something I learned a while back, was the massive volcanism around the time of the PT event. I’ll have to investigate that furthur.
Posted by: Lawrence | December 2, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Lawrence
The massive volcanism around the time of the PT event refers to the Siberian Traps. The Asteroid hit is opposite it. Smae for the Yucatan hit and the Deccan Traps in India. Action, reaction. Climate screwed! Links, no but source data yes:
Boost to asteroid wipe-out theory
By Paul Rincon BBC News Online science staff (about Bedout crater).
Antarctic crater linked to ancient die-off – Scientists say impact might have caused extinction 250 million years ago
By Robert Roy Britt, June 1, 2006, Live Science
Meteor mega-hit spawned Australian continent, Friday, June 2, 2006, WASHINGTON (AFP)
Big crater seen beneath ice sheet
2006/06/03, BBC News
Posted by: Quietman | December 3, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
sorry for the dysflexic spelling
Posted by: Quietman | December 3, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm