Feb 6, 2009 8:11am

Mixed Signals

The digital TV switch seems to rub everyone the wrong way — even though people seem split over whether to delay it, even though people seem to agree that there are bigger issues the nation is facing right now. On Wednesday the House voted, as the Senate already had, to put off the final transition until June.  The Obama administration is already on record as saying delay is wise.  (See my December POST on it, and some interesting comments.) So that’s that.  But here’s some fuel for the fire. The Pew Research Center, in its last survey before the vote, found that almost everybody — 97 percent of respondents — had heard analog TV signals would soon be cut off.  81 percent said they had heard "a lot."  Only three percent said they knew nothing of it when asked.  Find their summary HERE, though you’ll have to scroll past data about the economy and the peanut recall. On the other hand…. Nielsen research, in its last survey, says 6.5 million homes — 5.7 percent of those in America — are still unprepared for the cutoff of analog broadcasting.  Those least prepared tended to be older, poorer, more rural and more minority than the American average.  The poll was done with three weeks to go until what was — before Wednesday’s vote — the switchover date of Feb. 17.  Find Nielsen’s full summary HERE. It’s worth noting that the voting has been almost split along party lines.  Democrats complain about the botched transition and the poor left out in the cold; Republicans say get on with it and things will sort themselves out.

User Comments

Yea, I say get on with it. Things will straighten themselves out. It’s not anyone’s fault but there own that they aren’t prepared. They’ve had 3 dang years to get ready. Democrats aren’t worried about the poor, old, and minorities. What they’re worried about is votes. They want to keep their jobs next voting cycle.
I also ran some numbers yesturday. Everyone, especially Congress and the President is worried about the economy. They keep trying to get people to spend some more, so that the economy will go back to the way it was. Well, what I did, was take there number, 6.5 million people that aren’t ready. Then took the high and low price of the boxes, $40 and $80. Multiplied them both by 6.5 million. Then, since there will probably be many who will buy more than one box, so I multiplied our prices by 3.25 million, half of the 6.5m. So, if we let the transition go as scheduled, we would see anywhere from 390 million dollars to 780 million dollars dumped into the economy, and in a relatively short amount of time. That is a substantial amount of cash flowing into the markets. I guess the boys running our country didn’t think of that.
And another thing, where does it say in our Bill of Rights, that we are all entitled to TV? It doesn’t. Therefore, having TV, free TV as well, is NOT a right. This should never have been an issue in the first place. Besides, the transition has been delayed three years now. It’s original date was sometime in the end of 2006. No one was ready then.
Democrats really tick me off. The resounding element I get from them is bigger government, and that government is the answer to any problem. It’s not. Government is usually the start of the problem. Think about it. It was in the wanning years of the Clinton administration that legislation was approved that gave banks the OK to start getting people into sub-prime, interest only, and ARM loans. This way many people can own a house. Thats the American dream right? Wrong. These loans went to people who couldn’t afford them. These people also bought more house than they could afford, thinking that it’ll go up in value and they’ll sell, making thousands of dollars in the process. Well, then the foreclosures started happening, and that was the start of our now recession. So the blame for all of it is three-fold. Government, Banks, and home buyers that weren’t too bright, and made huge financial mistakes. I, as a taxpayer, who makes good financial decisions(spelling?) should not have to pay for they’re stupidity.
And one last thing, a quote:
“The opposite of Pro is Con. So the Opposite of Progress, is Congress.”
Saw that on the internet, apperently it was written on the bathroom wall of the Capitol Building.
Ok, I’m done with my political rant now. I won’t argue politics, I’ve said my piece on it and now I’m done. I’ll discuss the transition, but that’s it.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 6, 2009, 8:58 am 8:58 am

They’ve had three years to prepare. Let their screens go blank and you’ll see how fast they move.

Posted by: T | February 6, 2009, 10:15 am 10:15 am

The delay is a huge mistake. It only makes the confusion worse and 4 months from now, we’ll have the same problem. Those who couldn’t figure it out in 2 years aren’t going to have a moment of clarity with 4 more months. We need to just do it and get it over with. A couple weeks of television chaos and it will be behind us and then everyone will benefit going forward.

Posted by: Phil | February 6, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Please don’t delay it. Do a search on Craigslist and you’ll see people selling these coupons just to make money.

Posted by: Dave | February 6, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Lawrence, This whole thing is blown out of
proportion, just to give us something to talk
about instead of the dismal economy.
First, the only ones making out in this money
scheme are the government subsidize
communications conglomerates. The pictures will
be clearer and sound better? With a tube type
television your not going to get any more pixels
and the speaker is not going to be that much
clearer, because it is dried out, especially on old
sets. There is nothing stopping the stations from
changing over on that date, in fact the station in
our city is doing it anyway. They just have to
making sure the boxes are available. Heck give
them the rebate coupon when they purchase it,
and let them mail it in. Are these boxes
made in the USA? NO, so there goes the theory
of boosting our economy. As far as who the blame
is for the economy, you can add yours to a list
that’s as long as the unemployment line is in
Detroit.
What really ###### me off is that Madoff scam.
Here we have a whisleblower telling the SEC in
2001,2003,2005 and 2006 regarding this
character and they brushed it under the carpet! If
they allowed this type behavior, then there was no
way this could NOT have happened. I somewhat
agree that homeowners were at fault, but I place a
good portion of the blame on the unregulated loan
sharks that sold these houses ONLY on the
premise that the value of the homes would always
appreciate. At the time, no one questioned that!
Since the republicans controlled the house and
senate in 2000 to 2006, they had no excuse in
eliminating this. So both parties are at blame for
this, besides the economy was always on the
balance ever since 9/11 and didn’t avalanche
until people couldn’t make house payments
because gas was $4 / gal.

Posted by: spacerook1 | February 6, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Space, I blame all three, Government, Homeowners, and Banks for the sub-prime mess that started all this mess. 2007 is when the economy started to tank, due to the sub-prime mortgages. I’m not sure why oil went up, but I disagree that it was the straw that broke the camels back. It helped push things along.
As for the boxes, I understand they aren’t made here. We live in a world economy, whether people believe that or not. That money would help, albiet a very small amount. I agree with the Madoff scam. That’s total bull.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 6, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I thought this was about TV, not mortgages?
All the local stations by me are saying, “screw it, were switching over on the 17th as originally planned” Why is it that gov’t messes up everything?

Posted by: JoeE | February 6, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

this ain’t the “stone ages” anymore; what, everything is digital. newspapers, t.v., radio. everything is owned and being controlled by the wrong people. taxpayers should all get together and disgroup these lunatics.

Posted by: derba | February 6, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Is it so hard to believe that maybe those 6 million people do not give a darn about having TV? I can get anything I want to see on my computer and frankly in the last few years I have not found one single show worth watching anyway. What do you all watch? I get more than enough news by logging on every day. There are no decent shows on and we do not watch sports. The movies are few and far between and if you do not care for action movies or junk movies you are out of luck. Personally I see no reason at all to waste money on any kind of TV, digital or not. The 6 million that have not made the change are the smart ones. Now I guess the government will try to MAKE us convert!

Posted by: Not Intereted | February 6, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

As one who doesn’t live in ivory towers of cities or pancakes of little pink houses, it is taking me time to switch. I have to have a huge swath of trees removed in order to switch to satellite since antenna with converter yields a godawful picture. So…I applaud the delay and note that clearly republicans who fought the delay do not have interests of citizens in mind…as usual.

Posted by: godesyesore | February 6, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

I think it was wise to delay the change til summer. a winter deadline was never practical.
Consider the safety risk of cutting off rural and urban poor and seniors from their main source of news in the middle of the severe weather crises that many states are in the middle of right now.

Posted by: Penny - Canada | February 6, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Come February 17, those that turn on their tv’s and get an analog picture will breathe a sigh of relief–they don’t need to do anything about getting a converter.
Wrong. The same people that are still confused about getting a digital signal will be even more confused after Feb. 17.
Those coupons have been available for an incredibly long time. I guess that posturing over the delay is a way for Congress to feel like they have accomplished something positive.

Posted by: Debbie | February 6, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

On reason for the delay is the coupon program ran out of money. This was predicted last November. Yet the Democratics in Congress, which controls the purse strings, did nothing. Why did they wait until Feb. to make this move? Why is it all the Republicans fault? Where were the dems back in 1999 & 2000 when these decisions were being made? Congress ignored the issue until they realized real voters were going to be effected and they panicked.
Also, don’t blame the broadcasters. TV stations did not choose to make this switch. It was mandated by the Government so they could sell of the spectrum currently occupied by TV stations. If you think a $40 – $80 converter box is too costly, imagine having to replace every piece of equipment in you TV station while keeping ALL the analog equipment running in parallel. You spend millions of dollars for which you get . . .nothing. Now the government says you have to keep it going another 3 months. Some stations will have to lay off personnel to pay for keeping the analog signal going. ($8,000 a month in electricity alone for some.) How is that going to help the economy?

Posted by: Julie | February 6, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Winter deadline was bad for those of us who must drop the towers to put a required combo-antenna on (have separate UHF/VHF now). Also sending coupons with ANY expiration date, failing to mention “Time Date Material” on the envelope, and running out of coupon money, are all VERY GOOD REASONS to go with the extension. Now they need to pony up more money for the coupons!

Posted by: Ross | February 6, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

People’s own sheer stupidity if they aren’t prepared. Boo hoo.

Posted by: ScorpRedhead | February 6, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

The delay seems to me to be a good idea. There is some confusion, while it is a minority I do believe it is a right, regardless of what the constition says or doesn’t say, to be able to receive broadcast signals. Years ago TVs were required by law to have all the channels 2 to “whatever”, not just VHF or UHF. TV is a medium, not just of entertainment, but of information–often vital information. Why should the old and the poor not be entitled to what the rest of us take for granted?
Finallay, when I installed our converter a couple of weeks ago I found that of the 5 local channels in our area we could only receive 4. One was not able to broadcast a digital signal that would carry to our area–only analog. This just happens to be our only broadcast source for the ABC Network!

Posted by: Rod1148 | February 6, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

As for the right thing, I suppose you think owning a house is a right as well? Owning a car, a bycicle, a playstation, etc. are rights? No, they’re not. You have to earn them. Work for them. TV is the same, whether it’s used for vital information or not. Get a radio, they’re vastly cheaper, and can give the same vital information. But even that is a privelage(spelling). Newspapers and the like are the same way. Not rights. Just because someone else has something, doesn’t automatically entitle you to it. I’m tired of this attitude that I like to call “American Entitlement Syndrome”. I don’t think it’s a right to have a TV. I work and I earn my TV, my internet, my cell phone, my truck that doesn’t work right now, my wife’s car, etc. The only true rights we have are written in the Constitution. Perhaps it’s time we wrote a Bill of Not Rights, for those who think it’s their right to have everything.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 6, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

I was at a TV station for an interview yesterday and they weren’t happy about the delay. They said that they hadn’t budgeted to continue running analog signals an additional six months. In addition, it messes up the switch for 911 to use the signals.

Posted by: Joe | February 6, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

They need to mandate stronger signals. The real travesty of digital TV isn’t that some people don’t have converters yet. The real problem is that digital TV does not work very well. The “cliff effect” renders weak signals unusable, and you will still have a blank screen even with the converter. Of course, this big, big problem is not even mentioned by the media (hello, ABC News?) or the government. Everyone will find out about this the hard way.

Posted by: Pat | February 6, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Lawrence – I want in on the writing of that “Bill of Not Rights”! :)

Posted by: dlh | February 6, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Bill of Fake Rights would be a better name for it though…….

Posted by: this is nice | February 6, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lawrence. It’s all the fault of Government that we have global warming, acidification of the oceans, slag heaps falling upon our towns, are more dependent than ever on foreign oil, have to eat vegetables and grains that have been drenched in toxic herbicides… and that Wall Street has been frittering away OUR money on prostitutes and hard drugs. And if we hadn’t had a Government, then we probably would not have had 9/11
“And the farmer hauled another load away!”

Posted by: Jordan | February 6, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

As always, there are people on here with no respect for the elderly and no respect for the economic limitations of others. The delay is wise, no poor elderly and isolated person should be blindsided by this. It’s not going to kill them to take extra time to ensure thay have done everything possible to make this transition go smoothly. There are sure to be repercussions that have not even been anticipated that will need to be dealt with, so why make the jump when it is aparent that there are still known issues to resolve?

Posted by: iamwomaninMI | February 7, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Why did the govt get involved anyway? TV stations are private buisness not govt buisness and they have no right to tell them what to do. I belive that the stations are gonna be like screw it we are doing it anyway because if they wait it will cost them more money. But hey wake up america we are living in a socialist country now every person should have everything. Ask obamba!

Posted by: Clinton Selby | February 7, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

The DC examiner is reporting that Obama’s decision to postpone the digital transition was influenced by Obama’s telecommunications advisor, R. Gerard Salemme, who has a conflict of interest. The delay benefits Salemme’s company, Clearwire, as well as Sprint at the expense of Verizon.

Posted by: Meab Hold | February 7, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Just get on with it. I really do not see a need to delay the switch. Those who are not ready will eventually change when they no longer can get the picture on the TV.
I for one have no need to worry, given I have satellite TV, and they say I do not need the box if I have sateliite TV signal hook up on an analog TV. That satellite box acts like a converter anyway.
So I say go ahead and do the switch already! Those who are not ready will adapt afterward.

Posted by: GWP | February 8, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Duh. Is there still a medium out there called radio to connect the poor, rural, people to the weather warnings? In my poor, rural community, the radio is much more important for school closings, snow warnings, etc. The freeing up of analog frequencies was supposed to be for Homeland Security reasons. Now, if this is a matter of national security, why is our namby pamby government delaying? Are they putting our security at risk for the sake of a bunch of people who are not going to be “ready” six months from now? Pull the plug and get on with it.

Posted by: Jim | February 8, 2009, 9:28 am 9:28 am

I agree! Get on with it! The study showed that everyone knew about the switch to digital and that means that the people ignoring the deadline would ignore the next delay deadline as well! Congress, get off your butts and get back to work! I’m afraid to ask Congress to think too, it’d cost another $700 billion or so.

Posted by: tmblweedtx | February 8, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

I agree with the above poster. If everyone knew about the switch, why are we creating more problems by suggesting that people don’t know. Probably the only people that don’t know about the switch are the ones that don’t watch tv. If you watch tv, you are bombarded with crawls reminding you to prepare. And this has been going on for so long that I find it hard to believe that people didn’t think about applying for a coupon until just now.

Posted by: Debbie | February 8, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

This digital TV thing reminds me of 1980, when we were supposed to join the rest of the world and go Metric. Weather forecasts incorporated readings in Celsius and km/h to prepare us for the impending change. As the June 30 deadline approached, everyone presumably freaked out with the thought of using the Metric system. Congress had second thoughts and killed the plan. So, nearly 30 years later, the good-old USA is alone in using the old English measurements instead of embracing the more logical alternative. What does this have to do with DTV? It seems like the government is getting cold feet again. Set a date, STICK WITH IT, and those who resist will eventually get with the program, just like what would have happened in 1980 with the Metric System! BTW, I am a Democrat.

Posted by: Tyrone | February 8, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

If you delay it for 10 more years, there will still be millions who are NOT ready for it. Just go ahead and “DO IT” !!

Posted by: jonwyatt | February 9, 2009, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Jordan, I never said the government was %100 responsible. They do have responsibility in the cause, but not fully. We are all responsible for global warming, and the likes, but I place the majority of the blame on the government for screwing this up. Some does fall on the public for not being prepared, when we had 3 dang years to get ready. As for housing, which I think is why you posted that, you obviously didn’t read any of my posts, which I say the the blame is three-fold, government, lenders, and home-buyers. Not just one, three. I think you should read before you post.

Posted by: Lawrence | February 9, 2009, 8:40 am 8:40 am

One thing you can bet on is that there won’t be any more people prepared in a few months then there are now. They are postponers and will jump on the bandwagon as soon as the TV goes off.

Posted by: joe | February 9, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

These same ‘delayers’ would have delayed the Year 2000 if they could have. But they couldn’t, and it happened, and nothing broke. The world didn’t stop. …DUH!

Posted by: j phred muggs | February 9, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

97% of people heard about the switch. So we are going to delay the transition and spend more federal money, because 3% of the population are clueless or waited until the last minute to request a converter box. Better yet, most of these people have complained that all they have is their old TV which keeps them connected, so connected to reality in fact that they claim not to have know about the switch, despite watching TV all time.

Posted by: cdeluca | February 9, 2009, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

I believe I could put rabbit ears on a chunk of granite and get better programming than what Ive seen in the past 2 years.

Posted by: tendergroins | February 9, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Lawrence, glad your back on, Was reading an
article on a IEEE newsletter (Electrical Engineering
magazine), which states that a lot of owners are
going to be a little surprised that they not only will
have to buy the box but also a new type antenna!
After everyone changes, they will be limited in
bandwidth and they will be jamming as much info
into this new bandwidth as possible to generate
more revenue. The old analog antennas are not designed for this new technology.

Posted by: spacerook1 | February 9, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

it’d be a lot easier for the government to just give up on these handouts to people with cable. they can stop being so cheap and either find a cheap plan with a satellite company, or use laptops for tv!

Posted by: mike | February 10, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

people need to wake up, twenty years ago I was HD circuits at a tech school, Congress then said in the year 2000, we would change to digital 2000 came and gone now we were going to change in 2006, 2006 came and gone we are still waiting, whill the rest of the world moves on. And we wonder why we are losing market share.

Posted by: arthur L diggs | March 2, 2009, 1:54 am 1:54 am

yes they can, as long as it has an intact dna they can clone mammoth. but ofcourse its not that easy..

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