Moon Crash: Where’s the Water?
The lesson, perhaps, of Friday's lunar impact by the LCROSS mission was to be careful what you wish for. To the engineers who made the mission happen, it worked perfectly. They hit the shadowed crater for which they had aimed, gouged out a 60-foot crater as they'd hoped, and did it for $79 million — which is plenty of money, but a lot less than the half-billion that shuttle missions have been estimated to cost, and a lot, lot less than the $797 billion in last year's stimulus package.
For the scientists hoping to see evidence of lunar ice, it was another story. They had counted on — and talked about — the giant plume of debris they had hoped to see. They were publicly cautious in advance of impact, but also said that if there large amounts of ice in the shadowed floor of Cabeus crater, they might know within hours.
In the end, no joy. If there was a debris plume it wasn't visible, and there was no immediate evidence of ice. Not the best result if you were counting on it for a future moon base (of which there's a cool graphic HERE).
The LCROSS satellite, which trailed the crashing Centaur booster by 400 miles, recorded a small flash of heat (see picture above), and hints of sodium in the soil, but no water so far. The operators of the Hubble telescope, which watched from earth orbit (correcting typo spotted by a commenter–thank you), reported late Friday that they did not see either H2O or hydroxyls — HO, the ionized form of water that shows up when molecules have been broken up by solar radiation or the energy of impact.
"A preliminary analysis of the STIS spectra do not show any clear evidence for hydroxyl, but further analysis is needed," said Hubble co-investigator Alex Storrs in an online statement.
Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, circling the moon, passed over Cabeus crater just 90 seconds after impact, and spotted warming, but that's food for analysis, not proof of water.
None of this means back-to-the-drawing-board yet. There may be plenty of ice hidden in the lunar soil, and LCROSS may have just missed it, or it's hidden in the spectrometer readings it took. So there's some work to be done. Paul Spudis of the Lunar and Planetary Institute has an informed take on the mission's origins and shortcomings; take a look HERE.In the meantime, with apologies to Rodgers and Hart, many thanks to a commenter named rufadoop for providing this little gem last week:"Blue moon/You saw me standing alone/Without a dream in my heart/Without a love of my…KABOOM!"
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How many impoverished people would benefit with $79 million dollars especially in this recession? God did not create the moon to be bombed. What a waste of money.
Posted by: Jim | October 13, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Why do we need to verify theres ice on the moon? Can’t we just open the freezer door or go to the Seven Eleven??
Posted by: chaddy cakes | October 13, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Ned,
All things being equal, I’m betting that Heinlein “guessed” right once again: ice under the lunar surface that can be used for colonization (ie, “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”).
Of course, that would mean we have to worry about the colonists throwing rocks!
Posted by: Walker Evans | October 13, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Truly a huge waste of money! I bet those in the unemployment lines would be impressed with NASA…
Posted by: Magda | October 13, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
In my view, this mission was a success. Negative information (e.g., that there does not appear to be water in the shadow of this crater) may be just as important as positive information (e.g., that there is evidence for the presence of water elsewhere). Now we know where not to look and can move on to other areas.
I went to NASA Ames with two young children to watch the impact. There were hundreds of people out there at 4:00am PST.
Well done NASA and great public outreach!
Posted by: James | October 13, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
We’re looking for water on the moon?
Well, then, I think “Moon River” is considerably more apropos than “Blue Moon.”
Posted by: Eleonora27 | October 13, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
We’re 12 trillion in debt people. Just say NO to more moon bombings.
Posted by: Jim Bob | October 13, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Although it is quite a grand bill this would really help us learn alot about our own planet not to mention our solar system. Finding traces of water on the moon is a HUGE finding and will help us in future exploration. The moon is the key clue to our own planets history.
Posted by: Shea | October 13, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
in response to……Why do we need to verify theres ice on the moon? Can’t we just open the freezer door or go to the Seven Eleven??
Posted by: chaddy cakes | Oct 13, 2009 1:41:36 PM
Dude….to see if the astronauts need to take a cooler when they colonize the moon. Better yet, they should take the new grooler…..it is a cooler and a grill all in one!!!! Whooohoooooo!!!!
Posted by: stevey pie | October 13, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Even if they do find a few drops of water for $79M, it would still be much cheaper to bring bottles of Poland Spring in the future spacecrafts.
Posted by: Bob | October 13, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Haha..ok. And another reason is because water is so much to transport and if and when we set up the moon station then we need to see if they can use the moons water to keep it sustained. Duh. You can really learn alot at nasa about this. Its a plan that has been in the works for years.
Posted by: Shea | October 13, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Why is that scientist research stuff, blows things up and create collisions just to see the results, when there is no need.
I guess they do it just to prove they can without there being any real need other than prove a theory.
The purpose is to find water, I think not. The real purpose is other than that.
Posted by: Pete | October 13, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Where do you idiots think the money for this went.
They did not haul it to the moon and dump it there.
This is the kind of stimulus we should be spending money on and creating real jobs with.
Posted by: mountianswin | October 13, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Oh quit whining. The government funded NASA approx. $25.4 billion in 1969 (or approximately $136 billion in 2007 Dollars) to put men on the moon for the Apollo missions and you don’t see anybody complaining today do you? It’s all to further our space exploration and we need it. Anyone who does not care to learn about our existence is an idiot. NASA will continue to explore and continue to use your money as many other government funded programs do so get over it.
Posted by: Shea | October 13, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
what a waste of $. Who cares if there’s water on the moon. It’ll just turn into another piece of land to have a war over. Let’s fix what’s going on on Earth first and worry about the moon later…..I could use $190K of that $ to get rid of my mortgage and then I’d have more time and $ to put good use like helping kids with disabilities or something. NASA is a waste….
Posted by: Corinne | October 13, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Shea,
THANK YOU!!!!!
Posted by: freedomsky3 | October 13, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
When water gets up to $4 a gallon, well then NASA is on to something.
Posted by: mnns | October 13, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Why do we need to populate the Moon – or any other planet for that matter? NASA has robbed us blind for years with their whining for funds — for a space station that is fast turning into space waste — to send “heroes” to the moon (sure they did…). I’m grateful for satellites cuz I dig my cable TV, but really, must we bomb our Moon? This is a sacred thing — it controls our TIDES people. You’d think that would be something they would want to leave intact. God bless our grandchildren…
Posted by: jjcoers | October 13, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
yea right! nothing was ever sent up and nothing was ever seen on film. looks like a creative way to trick us out of more stimulas. 700,000,000
Posted by: greazemonkey | October 13, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I always get a good laugh over people who complain about spending money on science, exploration & research. Junk food brains are obese with ignorance. Science is our only true hope for survival. If knowledge is power, it appears that some of the posters on this website are intellectually anemic. Pump up those neurons by reading a book or going to the NASA website.
Posted by: Mary Saint | October 13, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“A grand bill?” as space vehicles go, this is on the cheap. Think $250 million for your cell phone satellite,… and that’s just one, not a whole constellation. Multiply that times 20 to 50 depending on orbit and purpose. How about Google earth,… try $180 million a satellite. You’re happy to fill up the skies with transmitters so your kids can spend all day texting each other instead of learning to speak or read and write real sentences, but you don’t care about the knowledge that will be needed to make your children necessary. If your progeny have no place to live in a 1000 years, why are oyu having kids? Wasted? Not hardly,… don’t forget the majority of that money goes to scientist’s and engineer’s salaries,… who support families and pay taxes and buy green cars and houses. Wanna talk about wasting money? What about $42 M for studying the salt marsh field mouse in Pelosi’s district? The list goes on and on and on,… furthering science (real science), supporting exploration, defending the nation (internally and externally), and ensuring the future of the species is the only thing my tax dollar should be spent on. Frankly, I’m tired of supporting several welfare cheats and supplying schools for illegals.
Posted by: Capt D | October 13, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
CaptD,
Well said!
Posted by: Ray | October 13, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
They dare to compare this expense to the Stimulus Bill? What’s more important…our current economy,or the “possibility of microscopic water particles” on the moon? I appreciate science, but this money could have built (jobs!)another Bunker Buster for our protection!
Posted by: Duality in Harmony | October 13, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
There is nothing like using a sledge hammer to crack a walnut. I recommend a rover with a buddy that likes to burrow. We need to follow lessons of what works.
Posted by: TX_MBell | October 13, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
“The Earth and the Moon are relatively close in size (4:1 in diameter, 81:1 in mass), unlike most planet/moon systems. Many people consider the Earth and Moon to be a double planet system (rather than a planet/moon system). The moon does not actually revolve around the Earth; it revolves around the Sun in concert with the Earth (like a double planet system).” Hmm..anyone interested in researching it just a bit more now? Some people need to pick up a science book and stop complaining.
Posted by: Shea | October 13, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
The money IS spent here on earth!
It goes into the accounts and pockets of hundreds of engineers, designers, scientists, technical support teams, contractors and subcontractors, who in turn spend it on food, housing, clothing, entertainment, local businesses–as for what we learn about the history of our planet and its moon and their place in the universe: priceless!
Posted by: Jacob Russell | October 13, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
PLEASE STOP WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY ON NON-ESSENTIAL PROJECTS….THAT INCLUDES THOSE ON EARTH AS WELL AS OUTERSPACE.
STOP FOREIGN AID AND BENEFITS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS….WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COUNTRY AND TT’S CITIZENS
FIRST !!
Posted by: Alta Cole | October 13, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
FYI:The bible makes no mention of us living on the moon.
Posted by: JcweeZer | October 13, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The Bible makes no mention of a lot of things..not a good argument. Thank you but try again. And we’re not going to be ‘living on the moon’ research it and then you will think twice about space exploration.
Posted by: Shea | October 13, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Well, if a lot of these posters were “in charge” when someone way trying to figure out how to turn sand into computer chips – needless to say there would be no computers. And the same ones who would “beat down the doors” of Walmart at the next flat screen TV sale, just to flip on fox news and complain that scientist spend too much money “figuring things out”. Gotta love the irony.
Posted by: 1enlightened | October 13, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Well Said Mary Saint!
Posted by: Mike M | October 13, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Maybe the reason there was no plume is that the spacecraft crashed in the mud.
Posted by: PatrickStingley | October 13, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Just look how much water I could have made, from beer and wine, for that amount of money.
Posted by: Town Drunk | October 13, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
The moon and stars were hung by our Cretor for our pleasure–read the Bible. If He had wanted us to have what the moon would provide–our earth would have it. You mess with His creation and we will reap havoc on the beautiful solar system–which controls our earth. Our people are starving, in debt to the point of no return–and scientists in all their “wisdom” continue to abuse the power of spending money in areas that will not profit our planet. Why not try putting that money towards cancer cures, starvation, the economy?
Posted by: Realist | October 13, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I’m sure glad NASA has stopped wasting money on missions with nominal scientific value such as the International Space Station in favor of missions like this that hold nominal scientific value but are on the moon. Much cooler waste of money. Bravo!
By the way, the moon is very near a planet that’s 75% covered with the stuff, but of course that would be under the purview of NOAA, not NASA.
Posted by: PatrickStingley | October 13, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Realist, I agree with you on some parts but what about but the moon program which gave us the technology that went into CAT scanners, ultrasound machines, microcomputers and cellular phones? If that technology would have never been invented we would have never had the technology that goes into modern things like this today which does in fact help with cancer cures.
Posted by: Rach | October 13, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Science used to be of, ‘The willing to progress & understand’ and had little to do with money and more to do with the value of time and morale.
Its best we stick to our progression, even though its costs are so much.
With the progression overall costs would come down, one would then adjust back to the reasoning of things.
So all hold hamds.
Osirus, Palms of Elijyah.
Posted by: Ld Elon | October 13, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
It’s always been man’s nature to explore new horizons and those explorations have always cost money. Without these explorations, we’d still be stuck in the dark ages. I thought William Shatner described space as “the final frontier.”
Posted by: em | October 13, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
What? hamds i havnt aclue what that is, sounds like a person with the i missing? ok i made a typo, it was meant to read hands, :0
does anyone konw a Hamids?
Posted by: Ld Elon | October 13, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I always get a good laugh over people who complain about spending money on science, exploration & research. Junk food brains are obese with ignorance. Science is our only true hope for survival. If knowledge is power, it appears that some of the posters on this website are intellectually anemic. Pump up those neurons by reading a book or going to the NASA website
Posted by: Your wrong. | October 13, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
It is the small nation that only looks after itself, solving its own problems. It is the small nation that only looks at today and solves today’s problems. It is the small nation that cannot see over the horizon, only reacting to events as they unfold.
How great our country is because we not only look forward to tomorrow, but we help shape it, too.
Posted by: Mario Rosales | October 13, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
yes, the geniuses are out today…..part of man’s quest to remain requires understanding it’s surroundings and what we can utilize for such……if you cannot understand thqat, go back to your video games in mom’s basement
Posted by: Tom | October 13, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
That $79,000,000 could have put an extra $3.00 in the pockets of 25 million unemployed people.
Of course, it would have cost about $200 million to do it, but what’s a few hundred million dollars of other people’s money to math-hating luddites?
Guess what? That money went to hiring people! Smart, hard working people, not lazy dopers and crackheads who want to complain about no one knocking on their door giving them $100,000 a year to sit around the TV hitting the pipe!
Posted by: Bill Pittman | October 13, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Our civilization is in grave peril when scientists and visionaries are afforded less respect than crackpots and cranks.
Our contribution to this project: about $0.26 per citizen. If that’s going to break your budget, time to recycle a few cans.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | October 13, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Magda, where do you think this money goes? It keeps people out of the unemployment lines. Dollars spent by NASA means contracts for American business which means jobs for American workers. Better jobs than cash for clunkers (of which a lot of it went to foreign workers) and road repair. This is some of the best stimulus you can buy.
Posted by: Phil | October 13, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
First of all – the mission did not JUST “bomb” the moon. This was a useful way of ending the mission. Second – you are complaining about 79$ million? That’s what – the cost of re-paving a mile of highway? Building part of a stadium? 1/20th of a bailout? 32 seconds worth of having the military in Iraq? If you want to save money, look over there!
Posted by: AnonymousCoward | October 13, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Pow! Take that, moon!
Posted by: Dan | October 13, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Yes, yes, it’s very trendy and PC to suggest alternative uses for the money this mission required, especially if it involves helping the unemployed or impoverished.
But that’s narrow-minded thinking when compared to colonization of space and the potential of populations living off Earth, since it’s likely that global policies will be too few, and too late to prevent the human race from destroying all of Earth’s resources. We’re well on our way to that fate now.
Posted by: Pablito | October 13, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I pay taxes for THIS!!! What the hell!!!
Cant Richard Branson donate money for this kinda lunacy!!!
Posted by: jafo | October 13, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Mary Saint posted “I always get a good laugh over people who complain about spending money on science, exploration & research.” I believe people have a right to complain about wasting money on letting objects hit the moon. Even if NASA found water, man cannot and will not be able to live on the moon. When we are having money problems here on earth , exploring space and planets need to go on hold until our problems are resolved. If a asteroid was to hit this earth two months from now. All we can do is bend over and say here it comes. I laugh when NASA requests money for foolish experiments, when we need money to go where it really will help us all.
Posted by: lonewolf1044 | October 13, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
I was amazed to learn from this article that the Hubble Space Telescope was in orbit around the Moon making observations of the impact. I thought it was still in orbit around the Earth! Or were the Operators of Hubble in orbit around the Moon?! Some serious questions about who was observing what with which instrument from where come to mind. Anyway, the implications of not finding water are serious. How can we possibly afford to bring all the water a Moon base would need with us?! Have all the R&D people who have been working on how to tap into Moon ice and convert it to water, fuel and oxygen been wasting their time and our money?!
Posted by: Kris | October 13, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The above comments are why America is on the way out as a technologically advanced nation and. If these luddites posting here get their way we will be a third world nation in a decade.
Posted by: Lawrence | October 13, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I always get a good laugh over people who complain about spending money on science, exploration & research. Junk food brains are obese with ignorance. Science is our only true hope for survival. If knowledge is power, it appears that some of the posters on this website are intellectually anemic. Pump up those neurons by reading a book or going to the NASA website.
Posted by: Mary Saint | Oct 13, 2009 3:08:46 PM
Mary, that is a brilliant comment. People need to get educated before they can be counted on to comment intelligently. Intelligence is something you must seek as an individual to increase your understanding of our people, and our world as well as others. Sadly, a bag of potato chips is of more interest than learning to most who comment on these boards.. Those to whom Survivor is a wonderful hour of television will themselves not survive what the future has in store for us all. But thank Heaven for that. Maybe it will clean up the gene pool for the rest of us.
Posted by: Movies Rich | October 13, 2009, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
$79 Million wasted by the government again.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | October 13, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
It never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant the average American really is. I’ll bet none of them would have complained if that $79 mil was spent on a new NASCAR track in their county. This is what we get for “no child left behind.” Eventually you have an entire generation of adults who never got ahead.
Posted by: td | October 13, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
They are going to bottle it and sell it here for $100 bucks a half liter and it noom water.
Posted by: tv | October 13, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Now I bet if they found a big vein of gold on the moon – these people would be lining up to buy “stock” in NASA.
Posted by: 1enlightened | October 13, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
In response to Mary Saint:
what are they doing about alternative fuels ??? nothing, still letting lobbysts to keep funding our corrupted lawmakers, hurting badly our current planet. There’s no doubt this is a another fake story to keep people believing they’re spending in name of science and bla bla bla, at the end … we, our children and grand chlidren will pay the bill these games left.
Instead of water we should be looking for traces of common sense.
Good luck for all of us.
Posted by: gon | October 14, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am
We can endlessly pump billions & billions into a socialist civilization going nowhere full of bloated overweight cry babies or we can work towards getting off of this rock and find other safe places to live in the galaxy; for children of the future. I will work towards a future where some day children can leave the BS of this earth behind; likely for much better places.
Posted by: Julio | October 14, 2009, 3:18 am 3:18 am
stupidest. comment. ever.
“God did not create the moon to be bombed. “
Posted by: Dan | October 14, 2009, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Water on the moon??? why?? why waste tax dollars for that.
Posted by: Jonathan WAide | October 14, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
“How many impoverished people would benefit with $79 million dollars especially in this recession? God did not create the moon to be bombed. What a waste of money. ”
Typical liberal nutball that doesn’t know what he is talking about. Every mission teaches us something valuable and this taught us where to go next. It was very valuable science. Now we know we may need to manufacture water from hydrogen and oxygen built into the soil or perhaps sample the solar wind and use solar panels to power the process of making water a new way.
For every $1 spent on space, $15 are returned Mr. Liberal Nutball. So please do take your little socialist diatribe somewhere else. You and your friends already are ruining the economy and healthcare and now you want to kill our edge in science.
Posted by: Jon | October 14, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Unfortunately NASA missions are planned (including funding) years and years in advance. Not doing the mission wouldn’t actually free up money to go to people out of work – the government budget simply doesn’t work that way.
Just because the mission happened during a terrible recession doesn’t mean it’s connected with the recession, nor does it mean necessarily that it shouldn’t happen.
Also, as someone pointed out, space missions do provide jobs and have resulted in some important technological breakthroughs (like freeze-dried ice cream! Just kidding). I don’t necessarily defend this particular experiment, but generally speaking this type of thing is actually important, and the NASA budget is tiny compared to what we spend on things like defense and entitlement programs, where there is tons more waste of money, in my opinion.
Posted by: Shannon E. Wells | October 14, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
I agree 100% with Mary Saint! The only hope we have for the US to remain a Super Power is to lead the way on Science and Tech… If we quit working on advancing those areas we are screwed.
Posted by: Nate | October 15, 2009, 7:49 am 7:49 am
If your blogging today, or talking on
your cell phone or microvwaving your
Hotpocket, you owe it all to the space
program. The Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria cost a lot of money in 1492, but
no one should say that there were starving Spaniards that should have been
helped by that wasted trip to the New
World. It’s just a sad notion that
many people have that want to change
outcomes to their own limited insights.
“Jim” wants the 79 mil for the impoverished people….OK Jim, you get to choose which people you help and which people go hungry, do you want that
responsibility? Then when that runs out
what do you do? And how do you know what God intended for the Moon…You don’t know…if your honest, that is.
Posted by: Blackie | October 15, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
PS. For those of you who slept thru
science class. The Moon and the earth
are constantly being bombarded by rocks
and dust from the solar system and beyond. The satelite and booster that
hit the moon had less effect on the moon than a flea has on a dogs butt.
Oh, Yes I missed the “your” insted of
“you’re” in my previous posting…
My Baaaad. And for you who doubt the Moon landing..how do we know you are real, or alive or sentient. Try proving that if you can. LOL moon beams.
Posted by: Blackie | October 15, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Amazing how ignorant many of the comments here are… Every dollar spent on a space mission is money put back into the economy through JOBS. We need to develope space travel because someday something will happen and most people on earth will be dead. Either from a natural disaster or more likely some biological accident. Frequent travel by so many people means outbreaks aren’t limited to certain countries or regions anymore… Banning bio-research on earth would be a good idea… We all share the same air and water supply here…. We need to get out into space to ensure survival of our species…
Posted by: PM | October 15, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Everything we need to know about our existance is in the Bible why does NASA continue to explore outer space. If it’s proven that there is water on the moon or that outerspace is livable, who’s really going to live there. or how can it make life before Jesus return so much better.
Posted by: charrene | October 16, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
For all those folks who think going to the moon was a spacewalk for NASA, guess again. Going to space was a matter of national pride and beating the Russians. The amount of money being spent still had to be justified. In order to grease Congress palms, NASA was forced to buy from suppliers and contractors in all 50 states. Talk about waste!
Posted by: JimmyDaGeek | October 22, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
DOSE ANY 1 KNOW HOW DEEP THE CRATER IS
Posted by: CRAIG | November 5, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT AT WHAT GRADEANT WAS THE LANDING {CRASH} SITE
Posted by: CRAIG | November 5, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
H2O
Posted by: CRAIG | November 5, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
sure spending money on space exploration is great, but guess what mary saint (you “genius”) spending money on helping people on earth is BETTER!
Posted by: fudummy | November 23, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I am a civil engineer and none of that NASA money ever hit my pocket- in fact i know many of my colleagues who are also engineers and out of work- please stop talking about the “elite” who have connections to get “cool” nasa jobs and make it look like they are “saving” engineering- they are not. they are just part of the wealthy elite to begin with who happened upon a good thing. stop being so damn patronizing.
Posted by: interesting | November 23, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
weres the water going?
Posted by: katie | December 3, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm